Acheron: The God Mode Nightmare (Honkai Star Rail)

[@Qaiserfa]

remember when moga was carried by hu tao and zhongli? good days

[@MagmaSpacer]

And now he’s carried by money. XD

[@darksteel6518]

​@@MagmaSpacerevery gacha tuber ever

[@paradozx]

​@@MagmaSpacer wasn't that always the case ?

[@themitchell1188]

I'd still be getting carried by Hu Tao....if I still played Genshin.🤷

[@maxttk97]

yeah😂

[@venstellar]

the fact that my relics aren’t the best on my acheron and she can still do around 300k-500k every hit with her ult, js proves how strong she is in general even without good buffs because my team for her sucks too.

[@kerobeep]

whats your team? idk who to run xd

[@venstellar]

@@kerobeep hi! its okay, my team currently is acheron, kafka, pela and black swan. its not the best team for her but she sure does a lot of damage! if you dont have them then search on some websites for some f2p teams for acheron. hope this helps and good luck on your team building!

[@venstellar]

@@kerobeepmy team is acheron, kafka, loucha, sw :)) i know its not the best but it works for me

[@ineedmorecarrots6063]

​@@venstellar i suggest replacing kafka with pela equipped with shirtless luca lightcone

[@venstellar]

@@ineedmorecarrots6063 thanks for the tip!

[@justmidnight8889]

4:32 he in the genshin mind set

[@tpednekar000]

Also this pure fiction heavily favors Acheron if you equip the second buff, it gives acheron her ult stack as soon as an enemy takes a turn.

[@tabithal2977]

yeah i don't know why he didn't immediately go "oh, this one gives very frequent debuff application, it's probably good for acheron"

[@aerithenjoyer]

@@tabithal2977 it's Moga, that's why lol

[@Why_So_Mean]

@@tabithal2977 hes not really a theory crafter lol you saw him bring in silverwolf in pure fiction

[@Wilsontripplets]

In a SI G&G run I forget how exactly I built the run but I was able to use Acherons ult twice in a row.

[@tpednekar000]

@@Wilsontripplets It was probably the erudition blessing which lets you ult twice in a row or could even be Auspicious Star from hunt.

[@Mattoooo_04]

Get's home from college, makes a cup of tea, Moga posts a god mode. Life is good people, life is gooood

[@TheStranger974]

I literally just did the same thing 😊

[@askiater]

It's like literally both current iterations of PF and MoC made especially for Acheron, meanwhile Moga: "This {modeName} doesn't really favor Acheron" 😁😁

[@Max-x21]

Acheron needs to be playes with 2 debuffers, i get about 750k dmg out off her Ult, with Pela E6 and SW E1 + Fu XuanE0, she herself is E0S1. Remember to not activate Ult too early, have all debuffs on the enemy first (including an Attack from Acheron after enemies turn, it only lasts 1 turn).

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

I get 600+ with gnsw s5. She's insane nuker.

[@itz_andi9691]

She doesn't need 2 debuffers It helps but sparkle makes up for any loss especially when ur using achrons LC

[@elysianratsewer5161]

@@itz_andi9691She can make up for it in some situations but isn’t really optimal

[@PixelleHearts]

@@itz_andi9691 You do realize running Sparkle ONLY contributes to Acheron's damage, right? You do realize that running two other Nihility characters that actually do damage, apply debuffs for the other teammates to use as well, and also contribute to breaks is more than just you know, buffing Acheron when all you do is make your damage marginally better while losing all the bonus of playing as a team.

[@itz_andi9691]

@PixelleHearts ??? Sparkle closes the gap or exceeds it. Who else is gonna do damage? In a kafka silverwolf? Pela? Be fr welt maybe but having a sustaining welt doesn't deal damage so idk what ur on rn

[@tpednekar000]

Before E2 Acheron, putting only 1 nihility besides acheron is a massive dps loss.

[@joengi]

Sparkle provides enough of a damage boost to compensate

[@sussybaka9722]

@@joengiless debuffs to get her ult faster though

[@authorizedfailure09]

If she's getting action advanced then it makes up for the lost nihility while also potentially dealing more damage

[@KaiFreiren]

​@joengi It really doesn't tho, the 45% Finaly damage loss isn't made up by sparkle, then you take into account def shred by sw/pela/swan etc She really isn't making it up, especially when it's also a slower ult gain too, as already mentioned. Not that she is a bad pick tho

[@RAJA_XYLO]

Uff people are still arguing about this without even testing it themselves. At e0s1 acheron her best team is actually sparkle+pela. Because of sparkle advance forward to acheron and she getting 2 stacks immediately makes it faster to use her ult rather than putting her with only 2 nihility and also dmg is higher with sparkle. This has already been tested and concluded. The only time you run 2 nihility along with acheron is when you don't have her signature lc

[@abcight]

You don't need SPD boots when running her with Sparkle. If your Sparkle advances the DPS every time, then the DPS goes at Sparkle's speed, so build your Sparkle to be as fast as possible and give Acheron ATK% boots.

[@IshimurA99]

Acheron truly proved to everyone that she is the queen of DPS, she is extremely strong 🔥

[@theekshanasandakelum9071]

Yo moga just a thought. Her ult doesn't scale with energy do you can run her with ATK% boots and use fast supports to get her ult🌝

[@i_undulate]

He mentioned in the video that her signature light cone gives her stacks when she attacks, 3:55

[@kaelferreira4964]

@@i_undulate Still better to run attack and let support stacks, you only Run speed boots on her if you wanna go with a slow bronya setup

[@theekshanasandakelum9071]

@@i_undulate yeah but she doesn't NEED to go 2 times cause he also said there's no point of Sparkle action advance if Acheron's going right after Sparkle

[@zimzalabussy2876]

@@theekshanasandakelum9071see what I mean, she doesn’t need speed boots 😭 too many people are obsessed with speed when she runs and depends on crit and attack 💀 debuffs are the way to go to build her ult to charge it quicker. I run Blackswan and silverwolf because they’re my best built nihilities, and she gets her stacks quickly but I whaled for her because I wanted the ultimate penetration with her E4 or 6. But she’s well built with 48/260.9 crit ratio. I’m still building her planars but she hits crazily. Attack is better on Acheron than speed because she does the same without speed and with speed I’ve noticed

[@egor_ter]

@@zimzalabussy2876 my speed boots have better substats and I have atk orb. There's no need for me to switch to atk% boots. Plus, it helps clearing MOC faster since with 134+ speed and her signature you get 2 turns and 4 debuffs on the skill.

[@newbie2240]

This one is too painful to watch

[@styxta]

She's so fun to use, especially in SU thanks to her technique. My favourite team is acheron, pela, guinaifen, fu xuan

[@PasteilloTheCat]

I have all of them except for damn fu xuan- 😭

[@ImperialDramonFighte]

Dude fixed his builds with money, aka sparkles lightcone and Acheron E1😭

[@espressocookiegamer2684]

I got all of those f2p and my archron eidolons and lc is on accident

[@ImperialDramonFighte]

@@espressocookiegamer2684 cool?

[@solarenity]

cry

[@conanvulp]

if ur using an action advancer like sparkle, bronya she can very much run atk boots

[@zycane]

Going for speed boots, when you have Sparkle on your team. 💀

[@alexanderluna4598]

Having sparkle on the team 💀

[@aerithenjoyer]

@@alexanderluna4598 not knowing Sparkle is her best teammate if Acheron has S1 💀

[@kingramp7312]

@@aerithenjoyer pela's her best team mate

[@InActiveGuy]

​@@kingramp7312 Silverwolfs better for her. You dont need more defense shred to minions you could kill easily with Acherons ult

[@elysianratsewer5161]

@@aerithenjoyerthat’s not really the case? Although damage buffs are comparable, you will suffer a lot from the lack of debufffs

[@ad_of.moonbreak]

moga just getting hit with third degree depression with the sad relic rolls, like cheer up!!! you never know how useful break effect can be

[@MonoCrowbo]

For pure fiction Acheron actually runs best with the one that makes enemies take a debuff every time they attack, you get Acheron's ultimate crazy fast especially with debuffers

[@vvamp1re]

Acheron is a f*cking unit bro. I will never regret snagging both her and Luocha this patch

[@-L1K-]

She’s fine with ATK% boots if you have her signature cone. I’ll prob give the SPD boots to Ratio when I swap him to the Dive gear.

[@kingali3058]

when i got her LC it was night and day lol the damage i was able to put out compared to gnsw is insane (her damage with gnsw was still infinitely better than all my dps anyway so)

[@joshuajackson5203]

not only that but she gets her ult waaay faster

[@ahlemlora1452]

Tip about leveling up relics : you can select the option to "level until next tier" so that it levels immediatly 3 levels at a time, but first don't forget to trash all your 4 star relics and below to turn them into relic exp

[@Indian_gae_boii]

Him manually adding artifacts instead of using the auto add to raise to the next multiple of 3 Is so painful to watch idk why 😭😭

[@leedevee]

You’d almost think he doesn’t even really…play the game? 🤔

[@havidikevidi]

He literally used the auto add most of the time, at this point y'all nit pick whatever he does just for the sake of it.

[@Indian_gae_boii]

@@havidikevidi no he didn't lol

[@havidikevidi]

@@Indian_gae_boii Yes he did, did you even watch the whole video?

[@Bash7]

Speed boots with sparkle. Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@wolvesbane1748]

running sparkle with acheron without having e2 acheron is madness lol

[@Sarathewise158]

Hey, it's good that you realized Brain in a Vat is per character so quickly because it took me many more erudition runs than you to figure that out lol

[@FyXeeu]

Wish self modeling resin gave us the option to choose substats

[@GalaxyDoodlez]

if you want to play Sparkle with Acheron, first build Sparkle with at least 161 speed and then put no speed on Acheron. don't worry too much about the crit damage loss from switching to speed because any crit damage past 180% on Sparkle gets less and less valuable as you stack more. by building 161 speed Sparkle and using her action advance, you're basically giving 160 Speed to Acheron (which essentially means she goes twice per cycle) without having to build speed.

[@nathanpranata8546]

but actually, getting spd substats is MUCH more harder than crit

[@kuusakaveh]

I hit 700k with acheron while still having a lvl 0 atk sphere. It was outside of SU and i was in her relic domain. My team was pela, black swan and huohuo. Acheron is genuinely just insane

[@jonathanlofton2990]

I wouldn’t have banned the propagation path I always try to get the spore buffs from them they really help with extra damage and one of them heals you

[@yamechitiyo8410]

You know it’s a good day when a god mode comes out

[@ImagineCats9339]

at first I was impressed , but then I saw your DHIL's dmg lol , yeah he's still the strongest

[@themoralessmorax8638]

To be fair he was constantly missing Acheron’s full talent damage by not running the 3rd Nihility unit. That should have buffed her a lot

[@snowychu2019]

1:40 I forgot you can do that. I only do that in Genshin

[@fushi__]

Most definitely better to just use a sustain like fu xuan with trend of universal market lc and to use pela instead of sw. She would give crit and better sustain and sometimes give a debuff too which isn't necessary since pela high spd and acheron with lc and sparkle already generate a lot of stacks.

[@dool106]

I also think Izumo would instantly fix his crit rate issue

[@littlerookie0_09]

Try to bump Sparkle speed more so she can advance Acheron more often and make atk boots usable on Acheron. The goal is 161 but is hard sadly ;-;

[@firmanang9132]

the fact that my acheron relic luck is worse than the pull luck is insane, at least we can speedrum SU with her now

[@yuki0209]

How do u have so many self modeling resin? Is that solely from battle pass?

[@trevoitr]

I want to know that too

[@chichigrubs]

I think it is, you do get one more from the BP tier, and assuming Moca buys the BP every time he should have kore than enough

[@leedevee]

Whale. Same with the unlimited supply of relic pieces to use for crafting. Yet his TP is capped and he seems to not understand even the basic mechanics of the game. Money money money.

[@yuki0209]

@@leedevee Are self modeling resin available for premium currency? The rest, I already know and partially agree with

[@The_ultimate_silly_goober]

Acheron was such a good top 1 that they added it to honkai star rail☠☠☠

[@lordminatogaming3281]

Gonna tell you this now. Speed boots on Acheron generally is pretty whatever without E2 (and its never good if ur running her with a sparkle or bronya) so I’d push for atk boots instead and for orb same thing, she gets 158% dmg bonus from LC, her kit and her set. So atk orb does more than lightning (use lightning has 2 Crit rolls higher than atk)

[@clouds1841]

Do the drink event and get a copy of Gallagher :)

[@tsuyuhane4337]

Acheron as "pretty strong" is an understatement. She's a monster (in a good way). I'm barely building her with crap artifacts and sorta half way traces and I'm getting about 100k - 500k with my team Pela & Welt and Huohuo as sustain. Build her right with the right team and buff, yeah, I'm not surprised you'll hit millions of damage.

[@dauh10]

Pure Fiction buff no2 is insane with Acheron. She can get her ult so fast

[@Ullr94]

Scraping change for the light cone, lost for welts light cone and got it on standard banner same day. Oh i had one already also.

[@PokemonSoulGold13]

I would continue rolling that level 9 crit damage chest. Could get 2 more crit rolls.. At least before making new ones. Imo.

[@ineedmorecarrots6063]

ive spent a month grinding her relics before her release. My acheron has 3.6k atk 67% CR and 196% cdmg im not gonna bother increasing her cdmg any further since i have e1 fu xuan that gives 30% cdmg, what im aiming now is a better planar orb probably gonna replace my lightning orb to atk one if it has better substats

[@Lacirev]

Moga seriously needs to try Preservation characters with the trend LC, especially Fu Xuan since he was complaining about crit rate. Them getting hit twice would apply more debuffs than Gallagher (without breaks)

[@theidpboi6205]

The fact that this was so insane despite not having best in slot relics kinda proves the powercreep point, i feel. Not that i'm complaining, though. Also at this exact point that i'm posting this, we're just at the NICEST number of comments i've just about ever seen.

[@sykicmotions4221]

God fucking damn it Moga :D your Acheron is insane!

[@nikonFB1988]

Insanely bad maybe lol

[@lucabehrens6108]

I get the feeling no one has a good pioneer set. Bdw Archeron only needs 35% crit rate through atifacts sub stats rolls (~11-13) since with Sparkle and Fu Xuan she gets to 100% if you have E1. 5 base+ 20% trough sets + 22% from Sparkle and Fu Xuan+18% from E1

[@Gurenn83]

I use Attack boots instead of Speed and the damage is just wow. Probably bcoz I have Sparkle but since Acheron is not energy based and relies on debuffs, Attack boots is the better option.

[@adamhawks3460]

Replacing the 2nd Nihility with my Sparkle gave her more damage, would love to get her E2 on top of that

[@yximiyx]

I pulled and got luocha because i needed a GOOD healer for all these bosses 😭😭 im at like 61 pity now with a 50/50 so i hope i win and get acheron, if I don’t i think i would love to get gepard as well so i have a good shielder too. But overall i need acheron, she’s literally my fav

[@Acheron-IX]

my acheron can continuously hit between 200-400k depending on the amount of enemies

[@elysianratsewer5161]

Black Swan or Silver Wolf over Sparkle 100% with your current set up

[@zackarybumbaugh9677]

Moga use swan galle acheron and bronya its a lot better then with kafka when you're not focusing on the dot

[@ghotyolocanisyn2880]

Even tho im a dolphin, im contemplating skipping aventurine for 4 reasons. 1. I got e6 gallagher and im optimising him atm for acheron,pela,sparkle(or)bronya team. 2. I have so much material grinding to do atm and quite a few are locked behind echo of war materials (which literally take weeks to get). I use ascension planner on starrailstation (very useful) 3. Im getting jingliu (so that’s more grinding) 4. Fu xuan can potentially be in 2.2 (probably 2nd banner) So aventurine will either be a sitting duck or gallagher gets benched and using sources on him was a waste. My characters atm: Sustainers: e6 gallagher (can get sig lc to s5), e0 luocha (get quid pro to s5, s2 perfect timing or multiplication) Supporters: e0 bronya (can get her LC with starlight), e0s1 sparkle, e3 tingyun (meshing cogs or s1 ddd), e6 pela (s2 pearls of sweat) Dps: e0s1 acheron, e0s1 jing yuan

[@neroma6964]

Bro doesnt want to use skill with kafka

[@michu193]

moga you should try acheron, kafka, black swan, and fuxuan with the topaz lightcone with burn effect. although it is kinda based on if they will hit fuxuan lol

[@Max1-g5m]

Yay he posted

[@wijinsama]

Imo, i never seen the trust with flat substats. It's still going to your overall stat regardless.

[@ryanbaker5296]

I messed up so badddddddddddd i got Acheron cool great and i saved up enough to try to get Luocha because i really needed another healer i was on my last 10 pull and i pressed on the Acheron banner by mistake, im so stupid i was there praying to not get a five star but i got her so now i have no pulls left two Acheron's and no Luocha Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im so sad right now

[@webed0blood865]

acheron in gng is very satisfying, got 4 mil damage too it was v nice

[@RAJA_XYLO]

I 1 cycled moc 12 with e0s1 acheron+pela+sparkle+fu xuan. This is gonna be my team for now. Might replace fu xuan with aventurine if I get him 😃

[@gaydelhas]

Watching you basic attacking with kafka hurts my soul

[@Joe_mama626]

I have e1 s1 Acheron. Can I use Ruan Mei and fu xuan with her and pela or should I replace ruan mei

[@themoralessmorax8638]

Until E2 use double Nihility with her

[@Harrison-k9k]

Do you onow where i can find the boot and glove relics for archeron ( her deep sea diver set) because i cant find them anywhere!

[@Slotherss]

attack boots is indeed the better choice on acheron

[@SIG-lg5ju]

that crit ration is good? i have simular and i always thought it should be more.

[@chillhour6155]

this is where the real gamba lies

[@Indian_gae_boii]

I do not know what went wrong woth your run, i hit 1.5 MILLION dmg against yanqing in MOC 12 (team was acheron, sw, pela and sparkle)

[@wolvesbane1748]

hes not even using acheron correctly hes spreading the crimson knots too much

[@themasterofw4295]

Got e6 gallagher was wondering if I should raise I do have acheron also not trend lc for trailblazer. Got e0 s1 for acheron and only nihility team mates are pela and fire nihility gal with the fireworks.

[@thunderchief7256]

1. The team I recommend is Gallagher, Veritas(if you get Welt, replace), Pela, and Acheron. 2. Her names Guinaifen

[@themasterofw4295]

@@thunderchief7256Ah yes I have welt just not built. And I knew she had a Guin in her name just not the rest. In this case would you want speed boots on acheron or just attack ? I heard sparkle makes speed boots supposedly worth but I didn't delve too deeply into this.

[@thunderchief7256]

@@themasterofw4295 If you do run speed boots, switch out you Ldb ball for an attack ball

[@lucicred7763]

Always wondered why Moga doesn't salvage the 4 star relics?

[@Zeemay93]

Yes mr moga WHY? JUST WHY? 6:13

[@gavinurey1]

So i got her but not too sure how to get her to do max damage, got all the recommended relics and level 80, havent got her lightcone though

[@dumbass862]

if ur willing to invest i would get lc. it’s not entirely necessary but if ur going for MAX dmg u’d want it

[@minhtomy6685]

I 2 cycled the first side of MOC 12 with Acheron atk boot, Gui, Pela and fire MC so i think atk boot is alot better (my Acheron have like 4200 atk :v)

[@themasterofw4295]

Damn nice whats the crit rate and cdm on acheron I have basically this but you have trend lc on mc right?

[@minhtomy6685]

@@themasterofw4295 my Acheron ratio is 56/177 with s1 (i remember almost 2 cycled the first side without s1 but yanqing act right after the end of the 2nd cycle and got killed by the dot) Edit: yeah trend was the only reason I even use FMC

[@Yanobam]

me, with my crit dmg 142 crit rate 17 acheron: wow maybe one day ill hit 200k ! (i am doomed to suck at building charas)

[@8niidle13]

Noooo moga i'm supposed to be working why are you doing this to meeee...

[@darko6115]

Acheron still wants ATK boots btw ESPECIALLY with sparkle

[@wraithuwu5317]

I made 85 pulls on Acheron banner and got no Gallagher :)

[@joshjohnson8584]

I was wondering how you were doing less damage than me with a better build then I realized you had sustain

[@alexanderluna4598]

Teams without sustains are lol

[@themoralessmorax8638]

@@alexanderluna4598Welt Sustain is fun

[@ITrulyDontExist]

Just started the video, I already know it's gonna be a banger 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@grzecznyx]

Shes the storm that is approching 👀

[@zgmf-x20astrikefreedom21]

Tho I didn't get blessed on her LC, I guess i can still consider myself lucky on the relics I have for her haha 😅

[@hypernova1004]

I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure you're confusing Sparkle and Fu Xuan's crit buffs. Fu Xuans field gives 10~ crit rate which would take you past the Inert Salsotto threshold but you keep saying Sparkle will? In regards to the DOT team you keeo saying without Sparkle you wont get the 15% ultimate buff from salsotto.

[@themoralessmorax8638]

Pretty sure Sparkle’s LC buffs Allie’s crit rate by 10% as well

[@rsg_magfire]

Yep, you don't really need sustain on pure fiction. My very flimsy team wirh mostly 2.8k hp somehow survive most of the time

[@ANOMALY_PLAYS]

i use Bronya with Acheron so no need for speed boots

[@Suh_s.u.e]

I thought u were in the trail run for a sec

[@nexuzz4203]

how the hell do you have 5800 relic remains and 14 self modeling resin?

[@kazuhadakaze4542]

The relics section is depression 💀

[@nottherealendie]

I swear everyone I know just stacks crit damage on Archeron lol, even those that do use Sparkle. Like what is it with Archeron that made everybody allergic to crit rate bodies????

[@Lacirev]

Fr, they don't even get good ratios out of it. Ive seen so many ppl with crit rate at around 40-50 and then 200 crit DMG. I run with Fu Xuan and the pioneer set and I still go for at least 70/180

[@thunderchief7256]

To be fair, Acheron hits ALOT of times in her ult

[@leedevee]

It’s so dumb. It’s 30 CR Neuvillette on MH set all over again. Her bis relic sets give ‘invisible’ CR that doesn’t show up on the stats page, so everyone assumes they can get by with 45 CR. ‘Also E1, FX and Sparkle S1. Look at my 250 cdmg!’

[@felonmelon3736]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@leedeveei know what your getting at but 45 CR with E1, FX, sparkles LC, and set results in 89 CR.

[@themoralessmorax8638]

@@leedeveelmfao sorry I don’t wanna take over 90% crit rate? And 35% crit at least on MH Neuvi is also more than enough at 71% with the way Genshin works lmao. Chill out snobs people don’t wanna OVERSTACK crit rate. Having a little over 50% on her is enough considering different team buffs.

[@poxelus]

Just use Crit Rate Body, come on. She doesn't have any Crit Rate in her kit, nor in the Lightcone.

[@ivantsipr]

E1 gives her 18%CR, but at E0 yeah CR body is the way.

[@DioBrando-xo7zd]

bro needs 2 nihility in acheron team💀

[@itsthenewpg1352]

i lost my 50/50 on two separate accounts bro

[@LA3100_]

Moga should do more gold and gears run

[@templeknights]

Man really went for spd boots when he has Hanabi you been reading some misleading info in the Acheron Mains thread I see.

[@talhaansari62]

Idkw but my acheron sometimes hit super hard or absolute abysmal. Like 5k 10k..... Idk what I'm doing wrong.

[@themoralessmorax8638]

Is your crit rate insanely low?

[@talhaansari62]

@@themoralessmorax8638 it's about 60

[@amemiyazaki50]

seem like only galag can heal more than other healer when fighting sam

[@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101]

8:5 normal dude lol.. if you know you know

[@darko6115]

You really might as well get e2 if u already have e1

[@hackerman3161]

Ofcourse he will he will fixes it with money