So... My Apple Lisa Exploded

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Күн бұрын

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@kFY514
@kFY514 Күн бұрын
* disassembles the computer * ~Sean "YOU"RE TEARING ME APART!!!" ~Lisa
@Scorpious187
@Scorpious187 Күн бұрын
"No disassemble!" - Johnny 5
@themirrazz
@themirrazz Күн бұрын
Apple, 1980: Our computers our very modular, you can even mix and match the power supply! Apple, 2024: The iPhone battery comes with DRM to prevent you from replacing it… assuming you figure out how to open the iPhone in the first place.
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Күн бұрын
The Lisa had primitive DRM… when you used a software disc for the first time, the machine's serial number was written to it so that the software on that disc couldn’t be installed on a different Lisa.
@Skankphone
@Skankphone Күн бұрын
Blame tim
@BastetFurry
@BastetFurry 3 сағат бұрын
@@Skankphone nah, blame Jobs. If the company had been lead by Woz it would have been totally different.
@Hider_2232
@Hider_2232 2 күн бұрын
You let out the magic smoke.
@RaineyPeng
@RaineyPeng 2 күн бұрын
Even I know you’re supposed to leave it inside!!
@cathydowns5442
@cathydowns5442 2 күн бұрын
Apple has always been crap!
@andrewsadach3194
@andrewsadach3194 2 күн бұрын
Refer caps will do that to you
@TechnoMinded-qp5in
@TechnoMinded-qp5in Күн бұрын
@@cathydowns5442 Apple not made for gaming Windows is still best for gaming even though Microsoft sucks.
@quigonkenny
@quigonkenny Күн бұрын
I'm getting a migraine just thinking of that power supply smoke smell...
@jakewisher4623
@jakewisher4623 2 күн бұрын
garbled video output from the RCA jack is normal. The composite video out is almost-but-not-quite-ntsc, meaning barely any monitors will actually sync to it. You are better off using a RGBtoHDMI to get a nice video signal. Also the dual parallel card is usually used to connect additional Profiles - meaning you can have three hard drives hooked up to the Lisa! Also also don't forget to change the floppy emu to Lisa mode!
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 күн бұрын
It looks like trying to display progressive scan video on a TV that doesn't support it. So maybe it would work when connected to the green (luma) input of a TV with a progressive-scan component video input.
@jakewisher4623
@jakewisher4623 2 күн бұрын
​@@vwestlife you might be right there, when I was building the Clone Lisa the only monitor that I owned that could sync was a multi sync CRT - using only the green channel!
@AJB2K3
@AJB2K3 Күн бұрын
NTSC is almost-but-not-quite-ntsc, It's practically in its name.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Күн бұрын
@@AJB2K3 Never The Same Color doesn't apply here because there is no color.
@lookitskazzy
@lookitskazzy Күн бұрын
what is it outputting exactly? Seems weird that it would be RGBS or something considering that it's a single RCA plug.
@dinckelman
@dinckelman Күн бұрын
It’s really just fascinating to me, how Apple went from being a company, where you buy a build-it-yourself computer, down to literal capacitors, to a trillion dollar megacorp where you can’t even swap storage
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 Күн бұрын
litigation is the word. In the '70s if your hobby computer broke while you were assembling it, you went back to the store and bought new parts. If your 1999$ computer breaks while swapping nVME and you're a modern guy, you sue the company, so the company sees more fit screwing up with you before you even try to screw up with them, and while doing so they screw anyone else who wanted just to be able to repair his/her computer
@stephaniethebatter7975
@stephaniethebatter7975 Күн бұрын
@@DrTofu83 Why do litigious idiots need to ruin everything for everyone?
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket Күн бұрын
@@DrTofu83 If that's true, why do desktop PCs still exist?
@petercofrancesco9812
@petercofrancesco9812 Күн бұрын
@@stevethepocket Correct. The real reason was that Steve Jobs didn't want to compete on price with the rest of the highly competitive PC market. He wanted to force people to have to buy upgrades from Apple at inflated prices. I always hated it but that's how they choose to make money. Microsoft chose to sell software avoiding the low margin computer hardware market.
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 Күн бұрын
@@stevethepocket Because how PC market goes. A "PC" is just a smogasboard of parts. Buy a "gaming laptop" and you'll see all the same crazy shenigans a MacBook has, without the serialized parts hassle. Buy a smartphone, and you'll see EU had to enforce the right to repair for Apple and Android phones alike. With a "prebuilt" high end laptop or an high end phone it's just easier solder anything in that risk someone would break parts and blame you Luckily, we got the "right to repair", so things would have to swing better for the end user, but that's how it started. Think at the thing in April with Intel blaming motherboard makers for random crashes with the latest CPUs and the aforementioned makers blaming Apple instead. Since Apple controls the flow, they just shut off the ability of customers do stuff and nip all complains in the bud I'm not telling you it's good, or I approve them. It's just that they are in a position in the market that allows them to do so because they don't have an ecosystem to live within
@ogrejd
@ogrejd 2 күн бұрын
Man, modern Apple execs would be in tears to see an Apple device as easy to disassemble and (assuming you had the parts and some basic knowledge) repair at home. So much lost profit... :P
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 2 күн бұрын
Do you know how much this thing cost in 1983?
@linuxization4205
@linuxization4205 Күн бұрын
@@kirishima638 Lots. But, we can still pump out more.
@EVPaddy
@EVPaddy 20 сағат бұрын
Jobs already made sure the Mac was a lot less servicable. If he'd had his way eben the ram would have been notexpandable at 256 kb ( always wanted to write mb :) )
@37Kilo2
@37Kilo2 2 күн бұрын
I never had any interest in this machine until you disassembled it. Modular computers are beautiful. It's unfortunate that manufacturers have purposely moved away from this model for the sake of profits is really sad.
@_..-.._..-.._
@_..-.._..-.._ 2 күн бұрын
Same here. Very impressive!
@_..-.._..-.._
@_..-.._..-.._ 2 күн бұрын
G5 Tower I have is similar and also some Mac pros, very convenient!
@ccricers
@ccricers Күн бұрын
It set the basis for later Macs that had very accessible parts like the Pros and the Power Mac G4 with the swing out motherboard door.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Күн бұрын
well sake of profits sake of profits, Lisa was 10.000 USD and you could have a house for that back then.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 Күн бұрын
I can't agree more on this ^^
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 күн бұрын
It's really cool to see that there's more to the story if one of these ancient machines is broken. Awesome that you can bring them back to life
@rager1969
@rager1969 Күн бұрын
Stop me if you heard me say this before, but back in the late 80s or early 90s, I saw a Lisa running Mac OS at a garage sale for less than $100. It was a novelty and was tempted to buy it, but thought it didn't make sense to buy such an old computer. Plus, $75 - $100 (wherever it was priced at) was a lot more back then, especially for a very young adult.
@electrothecat07
@electrothecat07 Күн бұрын
If I found one, I would immediately buy it, no questions asked 😅
@SenileOtaku
@SenileOtaku Күн бұрын
I remember seeing these for sale in Computer Shopper (I also used to have the literature for it). Some company bought up some large stock of machines from Aple (I think it was "Sun Remarketing") and was selling ones that were modified to run the standard Macintosh OS. They promoted how it had a larger screen, and (I think) more memory, etc. I *SO* wanted one, but didn't have the money.
@xerzy
@xerzy Күн бұрын
That's the Macintosh XL, a repurposed Lisa 2!
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
I owned a Macintosh back in 2003-04 (Bought from a car boot, most likely) and I eBayed it a year or two later. Still regret doing that to this day...
@murdockscott
@murdockscott Күн бұрын
I have one of these and it has been completely functional! Even booting from the hard drive. It’s been a long time now since I last turned it on and to be honest, I am a little afraid to power it up. Thanks for this video. It gives me hope that I can fix any issues that have occurred since I last tried to use mine. Looking forward to the rest of the Lisa videos!
@MartinaD
@MartinaD Күн бұрын
Nice "dramatic reenactment" of the RIFA smoke! 👍
@MrLeo34
@MrLeo34 2 күн бұрын
Apple Lisa smoke - don't breath this!
@redstone0234
@redstone0234 2 күн бұрын
YES IT BLENDS
@nomadic_shadow
@nomadic_shadow 2 күн бұрын
Takes me back...
@goclunker
@goclunker Күн бұрын
Breathe*
@faqihudinn
@faqihudinn Күн бұрын
Will it blend? That is the question.
@ricky2k3_
@ricky2k3_ 22 сағат бұрын
memories unlocked
@mrtesticlease4638
@mrtesticlease4638 Күн бұрын
>replaces rifas with rifas crisis averted.
@gabotron94
@gabotron94 18 сағат бұрын
what a madman
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
Mistypes search term when buying replacements on Amazon, replaces Rifas with Reefers. Sound of Police knocking on the door... 🚬🍁😉
@neilloughran4437
@neilloughran4437 Күн бұрын
Back in 1983 I bought Personal Computer News and Personal Computer World magazines and recall the Apple Lisa being reviewed. Looked like something from the future and a price tag that was half a house in my town. Still think it's a thing of beauty..
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 2 күн бұрын
I thought I enjoyed the concept of the Lisa back in 1983 (after seeing the price of the thing in "Byte" magazine and nearly fainting...). However, I enjoy it MORE now that you've pushed the envelope further on this particular Lisa. Regrettably, I've never seen any these machines actually doing the work it was designed to do back in the '80s...and I cast my eyes far and wide looking for them. They were in the shops in West Germany at the time...but not in any of the offices I'd been to. If anyone in the world should have a fully-functioning example one of these beauties, it's YOU! Wishing you success beyond your expectations!
@cyber_pirate
@cyber_pirate Күн бұрын
Interesting perspective from someone who remembers that era. I imagine there were a lot more classic Mac 128ks back then?
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Күн бұрын
@@cyber_pirate Oh, yes. But the people in my area, the state of Rheinland-Pfalz, used Olivetti and Schneider computers in the office. There were even some Commodore CBM-II that held my interest simply because I favoured my German-spec Commodore 64 at the time. There was a rare Apple II variant scattered here and there... Very sadly, I don't recall seeing any Macs. Apples were quite expensive back then. My German friends frankly weren't interested; I was the "Verrückter Ami" who the only nitwit in the neighbourhood who was into this sort of thing... A very dear friend of mine had the Amstrad word processing computer. I found this even MORE useful than either my Commodore 64 or my Kaypro IBM-PC clones. For lettering writing, nothing beat that machine (and...I didn't own a printer...) Ah...memories...
@RetroTechRestoration
@RetroTechRestoration Күн бұрын
I noticed discoloration on your PSU board near the -12v/-5v power regulator. It's probably just from the heat of the large power resistors over time, but that plus the natural drift of component values as they age is a good reason to verify that the correct voltages are being outputted from the PSU before plugging it in. There is also an adjustment pot at R9 for tuning the transformer inputs.
@lookitskazzy
@lookitskazzy Күн бұрын
Honestly I would've probably just recapped the whole thing. PSU, Motherboard, monitor chassis. This thing is old enough, rare enough, and expensive enough that one or two components blowing the magic smoke would be enough motivation for me to just replace it all. And probably reflow everything I don't replace.
@Darkk6969
@Darkk6969 Күн бұрын
Beautiful machine from the 1980s. With that much hardware it's no wonder why it was over $10,000 (1980s dollars) at the time. I was lucky enough to "play" with it when it first came out at my mom's work and was in my early teens. I had no idea how much the thing was at the time but it was a sweet machine. This is when I had my Commodore VIC-20 so you can imagine how much different it was back then.
@NickCharles
@NickCharles Күн бұрын
Ah, Rifa caps...I just acquired a lot of Apple II's and I've been going through them all preemptively identifying the rifa caps on all the PSUs so I can just order and replace them all at once. They're so prone to failure I don't even want to power them on to test them without doing so first... The Lisa will be a fun project. Hope to see more vids of it soon!
@ianbakke
@ianbakke 7 сағат бұрын
Rifa, high quality capacitors from Sweden, when new that is…
@xsleep1
@xsleep1 2 күн бұрын
13:18 "Working"
@brianb6653
@brianb6653 Күн бұрын
That was a really odd jump cut to saying it’s working after saying nope, it didn’t boot
@MikeHightower1
@MikeHightower1 Күн бұрын
Lol. When my friend's dad passed away we found a bunch of those in the house and we were tossing them on the ground smashing them, wish we would have known what they were back then lol
@MikeHightower1
@MikeHightower1 Күн бұрын
I did not even realize that was a lisa until just now
@boxerfencer
@boxerfencer 21 сағат бұрын
Speechless as to why anyone would do wanton meaningless damage, regardless of the importance of object being destroyed. ​@@MikeHightower1
@pjsampras7072
@pjsampras7072 Күн бұрын
New slogan for the program: "Tinkering vicariously to get your fix." Thank you Sean for doing this tinkering so we don't have to.
@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias
@ExpectinSomeADifferentAlias Күн бұрын
make sure you refill the smoke packets for the next time they pop!
@3rdalbum
@3rdalbum 2 күн бұрын
Rifa capacitors? Judging by all that smoke, they are probably Reefer capacitors.
@johnjakson444
@johnjakson444 2 күн бұрын
caps that smoke I guess
@waldevv
@waldevv 2 күн бұрын
The bane of many vintage computers 😄 a nice bonus is the fact that a lot of the time if not always the rifa caps are connected to mains before the power switch so they could turn into a smoke machine at any point even when not powered on if they were just plugged in
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing 2 күн бұрын
@@waldevv i wonder if having them after the power switch would have helped their longevity
@goclunker
@goclunker Күн бұрын
😂💀
@mikespangler98
@mikespangler98 Күн бұрын
Even just sitting there they absorb moisture through the epoxy resin and that eventually kills them. And they truly reek when they blow. Much worse than the usual magic white smoke.
@KevinSanchez-rd7um
@KevinSanchez-rd7um 2 күн бұрын
This type of content is what i love the most. And its making want to start collecting old computers lol
@daemonspudguy
@daemonspudguy Күн бұрын
I don't think the word reliable belongs near the Twiggy drives.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
If British Rail were using those to store copies of the Working Timetable¹ that might explain a lot... 🐌💨🚈🇬🇧😉 (¹ - The _Working_ timetable is the internal one used to choreograph railway operations, and is a lot more detailed and to-the-second than the ones provided to the passenger. 😇)
@happysprollie
@happysprollie 2 күн бұрын
Back in the day, a friend and fellow tech journalist got to review the Lisa when it came out. It also exploded. Couldn't blame that on the RIFAs.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
Lisas were manufactured in Britain: *Confirmed!* 🖥🇬🇧💥🤣 (Insert reference to _I.T. Crowd_ skit about fire extinguishers here... 🧯🇬🇧🔥😉)
@aaronring4704
@aaronring4704 2 күн бұрын
My first exposure to a home computer was a Heathkit setup that my grandfather built from a mail order kit. Disassembling and cleaning all of the sockets and connectors had to be done about every 3 to 6 months. You could tell it was time when the system crashed if you bumped the table the computer sat on!
@ThatKomputerKat
@ThatKomputerKat Күн бұрын
I am envious of your multiple green monochrome CRTdisplays.
@espertalhao041
@espertalhao041 2 күн бұрын
By the way, you have the AI translation thingy enabled.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 2 күн бұрын
What's that mean?
@blazingblanch
@blazingblanch 2 күн бұрын
@@MaxOaklandI assume they mean the captions auto-translate option
@meow52190
@meow52190 2 күн бұрын
they meant the auto dubbed​@@blazingblanch
@_..-.._..-.._
@_..-.._..-.._ 2 күн бұрын
Why does that matter though?
@mactep1
@mactep1 2 күн бұрын
@@_..-.._..-.._ sometimes it defaults to it in other regions and its absolutely horrible.
@KrishnaDraws
@KrishnaDraws 2 күн бұрын
I had no idea the Lisa was so modular. It feels like the PowerMac G4 cube is a spiritual embodiment of the Lisa.
@12me91
@12me91 2 күн бұрын
cost $10,000 when it came out, thats like 30 grand today. it better be well made
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc Күн бұрын
It reminds me of the way the TRS-80 Model II (from 1979) was built, except with the drives not sideways.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket Күн бұрын
@@12me91 Imagine being a customer in the '80s and thinking any amount of computer could be worth the equivalent of 16 Commodore 64s.
@dukeseb
@dukeseb Күн бұрын
All these years I’ve known about the Lisa…. And this is the first time I’ve ever seen inside one
@anotheruser9876
@anotheruser9876 2 күн бұрын
♫ POP! Goes the RIFA ♫
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
If I ever get a Lisa (Unlikely; I'm not even a mac collector!) I'm going to have to name it _Weasel_ ... 😉
@electronash
@electronash 2 күн бұрын
Don't breathe the RIFA. lol Two of my BBC Micros let the magic smoke out (years ago). And both happened during a Hangouts chat with retro friends. I told them the Rifa caps would likely explode within a short time after power-up. Both of them let go of the smoke within about 20 minutes. I took the machines outside immediately. The smell of those caps hangs around a long time, and I don't think it's great to breathe in?
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 Күн бұрын
The last time I had a BBC Model B pop a RIFA capacitor, I carried on using it as if nothing had happened. By that point I'd become so used to it happening that it didn't bother me, and I'd learned that those capacitors serve no other function than to stop high-frequency noise from getting back out onto the mains wiring.
@electronash
@electronash Күн бұрын
@@Zeem4 lol Yeah, it's probably not THAT bad, but I'd still hold my breath for minute, and open all the windows. I think the Rifa (in the case of the Beeb PSU) is more about filtering noise being output FROM the PSU to the mains, rather than the other way around? (EMI / EMC stuff) It's funny that the style of Rifa used, were meant to be "self-healing" caps. I guess they kind of are, as they generally don't seem to blow the fuse when they pop, they just let out tons of puff.
@btsr2553
@btsr2553 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. You made my day with „actual the CPU is warm. So, … I think the computer is computing!“ 😂 You are the best. As a former support employee at Apple, in the 90s, I would have advised you to buy a new Mac. The model you are currently using is beyond any end-of-life. But it's always interesting to see what you're up to. Please keep up your fantastic work. Have a wonderful and exciting pre-Christmas season. With a hearty "Servus" from Bavaria. From an otherwise silently subscriber.
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Күн бұрын
Really looking forward to more on this machine - the Lisa is a legendary piece of computing history and, despite its cost and flaws, probably deserved more success than it had. I have a vague recollection of seeing one at a computer show back when it was the new kid on the block (although my memory might be playing tricks)
@judgegroovyman
@judgegroovyman 2 күн бұрын
The case and board engineering is unbelievable especially for the time
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Күн бұрын
not really, actually most mainframes and mini computers of that time had similar modular construction.
@thedungeondelver
@thedungeondelver 2 күн бұрын
Wow so the LISA supported dual monitors. Very neat.
@GeFeldz
@GeFeldz Күн бұрын
Ah, the early days when computer engineers could just assume that trace lengths had no effect on timing... Board layout was made in a grid and chips could be identified by simple coordinates for column and row. Clean aesthetics and easy repair were actually possible without sacrificing performance.
@currentsitguy
@currentsitguy Күн бұрын
In 1983 I was a member of my county's computer club. I had an Apple II+. A lot of member had TRS-80's. At one meeting a guest brought a Lisa in to demonstrate for us. I was blown away. It was the 1st GUI and mouse I had ever seen. I emember he told us it had a $10k price tag.
@KameraShy
@KameraShy Күн бұрын
That is the number I remember from 1983.
@nickthaskater
@nickthaskater Күн бұрын
I want an M4 Lisa. This should be the new iMac.
@LaurentCourtin
@LaurentCourtin Күн бұрын
The modular design and ease of access to the internal components gave Tim Cook a heart attack.
@voidstar1337
@voidstar1337 23 сағат бұрын
9:35 totally appropriate indeed! Great job tackling those issues. Suggested mod: tether the power-on button down to the keyboard.
@tommythorn
@tommythorn Күн бұрын
Wow, I never knew it was this modular -- I love it. My Iris Indigo did a little better in that all tape- and hard-drives are on trays that just plug into the backplane, but it doesn't have the monitor built-in. I can' help but imagine what the world would have looked like today had the original IBM PC shipped with such a nice toolless pluggable design
@SamwiseOutdoors
@SamwiseOutdoors 2 күн бұрын
He let all of the smoke out of it!
@crudicle8407
@crudicle8407 2 күн бұрын
So?
@Jaxermd
@Jaxermd 2 күн бұрын
You’ll likely need to replace the foil inside the keys. Mine was degraded across 95% of the keys
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 2 күн бұрын
Hopefully your machines live up to your shirt's messaging!
@tomenglishmusic6808
@tomenglishmusic6808 Күн бұрын
The Lisa (in a way) could be seen as the grandmother of the Mac Pro.
@charliesretrocomputing
@charliesretrocomputing 2 күн бұрын
Sean. PLUG THE KEYBOARD IN THE GUITAR AMP!! 😂 It would actually be really interesting
@bloodyhell302
@bloodyhell302 2 күн бұрын
So you replaced some time bombs with new time bombs for future excitement. Clever move.
@TheDoc1978
@TheDoc1978 Күн бұрын
"Still has that nice smoky reefa smell" Mmm, OG Reefa 🔥
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 2 күн бұрын
That ol' workstation is built like a Server! Good job Apple!
@Nikkerudon
@Nikkerudon Күн бұрын
Question: How can the CRT video / adjustment board be fully inside the computer if the Lisa won't boot without the chassis on. Are you supposed to adjust the CRT with trial and errors?
@2xtreem4u
@2xtreem4u 2 күн бұрын
Holy smokes !
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 4 сағат бұрын
Lovely machine, I admire the way it's constructed. These RIFA caps are a good reason Dave was right with his "Don't turn it on - take it apart!" motto... Always check for potential problems before powering up a device in an unknown state. Some preventive maintenance, even if just a visual checkup and cleaning, is necessary even if a device seems to work.
@AsherJohnson-k1i
@AsherJohnson-k1i 2 күн бұрын
Awwww that apple two monitor looked so cute an small❤❤❤❤
@Pantherman1979
@Pantherman1979 Күн бұрын
Nice video, be careful of the back of that thing while you're messing with the video card. Those old CRT monitors will bite with up to 20,000 volts if a stray hand wonders too close. Those adjusters that you were using have plastic tools that fit them for that reason.
@lookitskazzy
@lookitskazzy Күн бұрын
It's Action Retro not Action Modern. Not his first rodeo, he was nowhere close to the monitor chassis and he probably wasn't close enough to the anode cap for getting zapped to be a concern. The monitor remote board and the "plastic adjusters" AKA potentiometers don't have high voltage running through them.
@Pantherman1979
@Pantherman1979 Күн бұрын
Not a reprimand, just a friendly reminder. Those rubber boots that fit over the clip that goes into the picture tube dry out over time and crack, potentially allowing voltage to leak out. You don't have to be right on top of them at that point just "close enough".
@xephorce
@xephorce 2 күн бұрын
The story of how this computer got its name is sad. this was an awesome video.
@Randalor
@Randalor 2 күн бұрын
It's crazy to see how repair-friendly and modular the Lisa was, especially compared to modern-day Apple products.
@dannymundo7538
@dannymundo7538 Сағат бұрын
In awe at the modularity of the thing
@TiagoGeremias
@TiagoGeremias Күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video available with audio track in Brazilian Portuguese.
@Canthus13
@Canthus13 Күн бұрын
When your computer isn't housebroken.
@AshtonSnapp
@AshtonSnapp 2 күн бұрын
“The power supply grenaded.” Understandable, have a nice day.
@starsINSPACE
@starsINSPACE 2 күн бұрын
Actually the puffs of smoke mean your childhood has died and with it, Puff the Magic Dragon has ceased to exist. 😢
@electrothecat07
@electrothecat07 Күн бұрын
I love it when you reatore old retro machines. I plan on doing so myself and have done for a few old computers and an old karaoke machine My old PCs have those panels that just come off with the pulling of the latch that keeps them on. They're also mostly made of metal so they're built like tanks. One of the hard drives in one started doing the click of death but I suspect it's just the board rather than the actual drive (I verified it to be fine just the previous day) The two PCs are the dell dimension 5150 and the Dell optiples gt620, both running windows xp natively and share the same cpu: the intel pentium 4
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob Күн бұрын
Always check for Vartas and Rifas!
@mulad
@mulad 2 күн бұрын
3:22 Wow, DB-25 serial ports on an Apple product? I appreciate the company's innovations over the years, but sure wish it wasn't such a rare thing to see standard connection types on their machines
@thomasandrews9355
@thomasandrews9355 Күн бұрын
Fun fact. Rifa caps shouldn't prevent a psu from working, theyre just safety caps. You generally can just remove them
@_Thrackerzod
@_Thrackerzod Күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't even replace them when I take them out; they aren't necessary. It was just an FCC requirement like the ginormous RF shielding everything used to have.
@thomasandrews9355
@thomasandrews9355 Күн бұрын
@_Thrackerzod I run a restoration shop, they're cheap and it's a nice thing to say I did.
@jovetj
@jovetj 16 минут бұрын
The modularity of this astounds me.
@TheMetalMag
@TheMetalMag 2 күн бұрын
What I loved on first apple machine was the easy way to move things around. Shame they didn’t keep that way
@haskellelephant
@haskellelephant Күн бұрын
Accelerated Lisa is going to be a helluva Christmas special
@FlintG
@FlintG 21 сағат бұрын
Man that looks so cool Glad you got it working again!
@V1VISECT6
@V1VISECT6 9 сағат бұрын
1/4 inch TRS cables can send signals. I use these for footswitches on keyboards, guitar amps and guitar pedals. Heck i have a weight scale at kitchen that has a jack albeit a 3.55 mm jack, easliy adaptable as I have a done it before) for a footswitch to zero out the scale and save time. I ain't gonna say that though haha. They think I'm stupid despite being one of the "senior" employees.
@jaymemengoni1130
@jaymemengoni1130 Күн бұрын
That thumbnail seems a bit clickbaity
@stephaniethebatter7975
@stephaniethebatter7975 Күн бұрын
I seriously hope that at the very least, data recovery can be performed on that hard drive. It'd be interesting to know what it had on it.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 2 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the continued Lisa geekiness.
@mirage809
@mirage809 2 күн бұрын
Man, that Lisa looks like a dream to service (outside of caps that have turned into ticking time bombs). No screwdriver required, everything is always just a thumbscrew or a latch away from being removed, replaced or upgraded. Imagine if this thing took off a bit more. Or if Apple put more effort into making the Lisa a platform with staying power instead of throwing all their weight behind the Mac. They could've released upgrade after upgrade, keeping the chassis while allowing the internals to grow in power as the years went by. Of course Apple ended up taking a very different path. It's a beautifully engineered device though and I hope you manage to get it back to fully working order. Also, it's a lot of fun to consider that the smartwatch on your wrist has orders of magnitude more processing power than this beast. It's quite insane to realize just how far we've gotten in the last 40 years.
@iO-Sci
@iO-Sci Күн бұрын
The Apple Lisa is a nice and explored type Mac computer. Apple Lisa는 멋지고 탐구적인 Mac 컴퓨터입니다.
@RX-79Ez-8
@RX-79Ez-8 Күн бұрын
I miss how integrated computers used to look. Kind of why I still like laptops.
@lmanders2
@lmanders2 2 күн бұрын
Awesome 👍😎 can't believe you brought that thing back from the dead! Love the channel, thanks!
@joes9954
@joes9954 Күн бұрын
Somewhere along the way, Apple forgot all about the concept of modular. And upgradability…and repairability…
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 17 сағат бұрын
And customer retention... 🐧🏃💨🍎😉
@O5-XIV
@O5-XIV 2 күн бұрын
He let out the Genie XD
@Leylandcars123
@Leylandcars123 Күн бұрын
This is a sweet computer,Maybe the hard drive issue could be bad connection?,Bad solder joints?,something like that?
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 Күн бұрын
@@Leylandcars123 Mechanical disks do die, especially if left "stuck" for a lenghty time. It can be a bad connection as you said, it can need some time to wake up, or it must just be replaced with a solid state solution, hoping to save its contents
@Leylandcars123
@Leylandcars123 Күн бұрын
@@DrTofu83 Yea maybe
@piked86
@piked86 20 сағат бұрын
New Apple could learn a lot from old Apple.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Күн бұрын
There is now a Lisa Pi Emulator with all the original software.
@estried86
@estried86 Күн бұрын
Cool, I've never seen a Lisa opened up before. I wish current Macs were that easy to take apart.
@cdl0
@cdl0 Күн бұрын
It looks like Action Retro is able to exercise his _Right to Repair._ 🙂 I remember seeing a Lisa being demonstrated shortly after they were announced, but at $10k each were too expensive to justify the cost. In 2024 money that would easily be $30k!
@Kilroy_5150
@Kilroy_5150 Күн бұрын
After Jobbs screaming at Woz about having an "enclosed" system (while they had the Apple // systems, we get this easy access machine.....Ironic. And this was Jobs "baby" so to speak. WHEN is the world going to "admit" Jobbs FAILED, was fired, met new people and came back to Apple only to "claim" someone else's designs and call it "his" and take all the credit? Let's face it, Jobs stood on the ""shoulders" of geniuses/talented people and took the credit for it. nuff said?
@_Thrackerzod
@_Thrackerzod Күн бұрын
I don't think anyone ever claimed he was behind the tech itself. Woz was the engineer, Jobs was the marketing genius. He wasn't fired because he failed, but because their new Pepsi CEO convinced the board that he was too young to run a company and wanted to save money by cheaping out on everything. Which turned out to be a disaster as Apple almost went bankrupt and had to be saved by Microsoft just to keep afloat. There's no question that Jobs absolutely saved the company and made them the giant they are today, otherwise I doubt they would even exist anymore.
@mueffe1357
@mueffe1357 Күн бұрын
Raison detre. This meme is really old. But it checks out. 😂
@ZoruaZorroark
@ZoruaZorroark Күн бұрын
im not sure, but i think i may have used one in school in '91 or '92. i wouldn't be surprised if it was a different model or a unit that that looked like it as its been decades
@richardbrobeck2384
@richardbrobeck2384 Күн бұрын
Great video !! love the old Lisa !
@BersekViking
@BersekViking Күн бұрын
Did you replace the Rifa firecrackers with new Rifa firecrackers???
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Күн бұрын
Yeah I don't get why, pretty sure those haven't been made in a long time.
@otter-pro
@otter-pro 2 күн бұрын
I wish I had bought a LISA back in the early 90's, when I had a chance to buy it for $300 new (as it was being sold by vendors with deep discount after it became obsolete). However, I was poor college student, so I couldn't.
@projectartichoke
@projectartichoke Күн бұрын
Man, what a cool machine! I'm totally jealous.
@mulad
@mulad 2 күн бұрын
11:25 Haha, letting me relive my youth when I could still hear the whine of CRTs
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 18 сағат бұрын
I'm only as far as 02:38 and _already_ laughing my ass off when seeing exactly what Apple no longer had the _courage_ to support from the iPhone 7 onwards... ⌨📲🤣 The thing is: I don't remember Apple ever manufacturing Lisas in the UK, so goodness knows how any of them came by the characteristics required for a UKCA mark! 🖥🇬🇧💥😉 (And finally; Sir, your tattoos are - In a word - *Beautiful...* 🤘💯😍)
@juanstdio
@juanstdio 2 күн бұрын
COME ON SEAN! DO IT!
@eugiblisscast
@eugiblisscast Күн бұрын
I love the Apple Lisa!
@h-leath6339
@h-leath6339 16 сағат бұрын
And omfg, I get a serious tech-on for modular serviceable design. They don't build 'em like they used'ta. Mostly because they stopped building them that way. I bet the manual came with a complete schematic too...
@alisonsmith4436
@alisonsmith4436 Күн бұрын
All the best to you
@sokoloft3
@sokoloft3 2 күн бұрын
He replaced the Rifa capacitors with more Rifa capacitors? Am I missing something? I haven't done that job before BUT I'd assume you would want to replace it with something that wont fail again in the future. Even if its NOS.
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 2 күн бұрын
The new caps will likely last 50+ years.
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