I've been told by a few people that my bass playing sounds best with active pickups and dead batteries.
@taylorvella34 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@samsmelser_4 жыл бұрын
Lol😂😂😂🤣🤣
@VmShpman824 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha. wow !!
@thelifeofpewpew32904 жыл бұрын
Oh nice, I've been told my bass playing sounds best when I leave it at home 🙃
@GuitarType013 жыл бұрын
Is that because you get no sound?
@pCeLobster5 жыл бұрын
95% of the time, even in an active bass, the pickups are still passive pickups. "Active" in this context refers to the presence of the onboard preamp. The only actual active pickups you will commonly see are EMG's.
@danielbrown85565 жыл бұрын
I guess that's why they say active *bass*
@kimseniorb5 жыл бұрын
Yes this vid doesn’t make much sense, active pups is a different concept. They should’ve used the 3rd bass with EMG or MEC pickups
@leFoodeater5 жыл бұрын
In my experience people calls it active pickups even though it is wrong. I've been a bass player for 14 years and it was only recently that I learned about this lol. To my excuse, I go my first active bass this year.
@brenlouissurio24045 жыл бұрын
@@leFoodeater lol. That's okay. Been playing for years too, less than your years. I thought active is just for preamp. But as long as I like the sound, I don't give a fuck ha.
@maxjbg5 жыл бұрын
And MECs
@saam67685 жыл бұрын
The best is a passive/active bass with a dead battery so you have a kill switch.
@CaseSet2365 жыл бұрын
But why? Why would I want any of that
@mangmang38555 жыл бұрын
Haha I have an active bass and I did this for like three months just cause the on off switch was so handy
@CaseSet2365 жыл бұрын
@@mangmang3855 how is that handy?
@hyalinamusic185 жыл бұрын
kim linnerkvist Well, it helps to turn the volume down, and it could lend to some cool sounds. See Tom Morello for example.
@CaseSet2365 жыл бұрын
@@hyalinamusic18 yeah I know who Tom is. he's an amazing guitarist but we're talking bass. I just can't see the use of having a killswitch and if you're gonna have one wouldn't it be better to wire an actual switch instead of using the pickup selector
@MachSea5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, im definetly going passive. -Confused electric guitar player
@nathanwebb13274 жыл бұрын
Same man same
@shamerzaihan86384 жыл бұрын
Active bass master race
@VmShpman824 жыл бұрын
I think both passive & Active are good, but It all depends on what your trying to achieve. To me Passive is either good for jazz & backkground bass lines like for either light jazz or easy listening music. Active are real bright if you want them to be & helps cut thru the muffle sound . I know to each their own, I use to hear that flat wound strings on a passive bass, worked good for studio recording. Then again Actives have been used on studio work as well. You have to experiment. If the shoe fits wear it.
@spynae5 жыл бұрын
ACTIVE PICKUPS ARE NOT THE SAME THING AS AN ACTIVE PREAMP COMBINED WITH PASSIVE PICKUPS. And yes, this is a relevant criticism of this video because it says in the thumbnail "Active bass pickups." Active pickups are pickups with incredibly low impedance due to the low number of winds of wire. This produces a pickup with no resonance peak or cut frequencies, but they also do not produce a signal loud enough for general use; thus, most active pickups either have a preamp built into the pickup themselves (such as EMG pickups and some MEC pickups that Warwick uses) or require a more typical onboard preamp (such as Alembic's pickups) in order to add gain to the signal. Those pickups with builtin preamps also typically include a built-in EQ curve to offset the flat frequency response of an unaffected active pickup.
@АнтонКузнецов-и8ю5 жыл бұрын
"active pups" generally are pickups that use active (not passive) electronics. That's why they called active. So, passive pickups with built-in preamp are active pickups by definition. Everything else is just a commercial bullshit.
@mattymodeerf5 жыл бұрын
+Антон Кузнецов no. theyre quite different dude
@АнтонКузнецов-и8ю5 жыл бұрын
@@mattymodeerf oh, really? ) well, everyone need some miracle mojo to believe
@MuscleDad4205 жыл бұрын
The model they used in the video for the "active" portion has passive pickups paired with an active preamp, hence the active on/off switch to run passive. So poo poo on you
@joseortegabeede82335 жыл бұрын
Active pickups have a battery connected to each pickup, and they have much less copper wire because the extra electricity provided by the battery makes up for it. Passive pickups wired to an active pre-amp are NOT active pickups, but of course they benefit from the active EQ.
@BZK335 жыл бұрын
There is some misinformation in this video 1- a active bass is not always louder than a passive bass 2 - most of the time pickups are passive, active basses are passive pickups with active preamp 3 - an active bass is not cutting through the mix better, but the active preamp is there to help you cut through the mix if you use it well. 4 - Dynamics is not better on a passive bass. 5 - if a preamp compress the bass sound, then it is not designed well. 6 - "active" preamps are like effect pedal, they have buffers inside to adapt impedance to the next source in the chain. Clearly bass mythologie and BS information will have a long life with this kind of videos
@DavidChampoux4 жыл бұрын
100% agree. This video is full of sh**... I'm surprised, because Reverb normally post great vids with nice and accurate info. This one should be deleted ASAP.
@seenbelow4 жыл бұрын
You're wrong about dynamics.
@boogie80084 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this
@StarZendonna16874 жыл бұрын
I agree I mean this video is about picking favorites not making equal sense here
@shahi48274 жыл бұрын
is tone suck really that bad?
@leaguelongclips2475 жыл бұрын
Very impressive but... Oh wait wrong channel
@yokomex5 жыл бұрын
Davieeeeeeee hahah
@ianprescott79245 жыл бұрын
Very original
@alanr.48125 жыл бұрын
I got the reference
@fysy99895 жыл бұрын
You are a man of culture!
@maceportier70735 жыл бұрын
Ivan Tabusao 😎
@jaco204435 жыл бұрын
0:09 GENERAL KENOBI
@enriquemendez15075 жыл бұрын
You cant do that
@TheAcContreras5 жыл бұрын
didn't get it🤔
@yigitcengil24655 жыл бұрын
A Star wars comment in a bass video huh? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
@viceng.63115 жыл бұрын
@@yigitcengil2465 you are underresting his power
@yigitcengil24655 жыл бұрын
@@viceng.6311 Not intention of doing that man. I`m just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.
@basicoptimalmouse5 жыл бұрын
"Passive bass doesn't cut through" *Laughs in Steve Harris
@TinyDragon5 жыл бұрын
Bradley S true he cuts through but he also plays a rack rig setup through Marshall guitar cabs which gives some of the “clack” to his tone as well as his technique
@parkerdavidson58685 жыл бұрын
Not to mention he plays freakin FLATwounds
@ChadHargis4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.....poor Jaco must not have cut through either with his passive Jazz bass. Fact is...a passive bass plugged into an amp has a preamp.
@EpicStuffMan10004 жыл бұрын
@@ChadHargis everyone knows that, it's just a preamp before a preamp adds even more tonal shaping. what the greats did worked for them, what people do now works for them too. that's what matters
@southofheck4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, iron maiden has a pretty clear cut sound, its not like death metal where you can barely tell the two guitarists apart, let alone the bassist
@bak13865 жыл бұрын
I prefer a passive bass these days. The tone is much more mellow and smooth to my ear. Plus, like he was saying, especially with a p or even a jazz, it's very simple. The older I get, the more I appreciate simplicity lol. I'm not much of a slapper either so that has guided me more toward the good ole p bass
@EMan-tp4zp5 жыл бұрын
I learned Higher Ground and everyone associated me w/slap. I learned double thumbing...yet thier are people that do it way smoother. Of course, drummer is nervous and comes in at %40-%50 quicker. Leftie guitarist w/locked whammy bar doesn't have a back up and breaks a string. No other lefties...nothing like moving yer gear for 15mins of playing. We were recording from the board for "trouble shooting". I quit next day. If i hear a Seinfeld theme request one more time...
@orengesus50804 жыл бұрын
@@EMan-tp4zp who asked
@christhepocketmasterr3 жыл бұрын
@@orengesus5080 You're rude. Have some class.
@cacaman173 жыл бұрын
I agree, also noticed that with certain great bassists, Geddy Lee and Flea for example, they started with crazy ass active basses and all ended up with passive fender basses.
@VanjaSpirin Жыл бұрын
This is a tipical story of an old bassist who can't play bass well. This p-bass cult. Stingray is also simple instrument, but sits much better in a mix.
@gnpahdc5 жыл бұрын
1) He seemed to confuse active pickup (rare) with active instrument via preamp (common) with his erroneous use of the term "active pickup" when he meant "active bass". 2) He said a passive bass is "more work" for tone shaping due to lack of control knobs on the instrument. That is false. The work is simply at a different physical location. And one could argue that a passive is less work period, as your FOH will do it for you - literally. 3) He stated several times he would use the same instrument for consistency of comparisons, and then used a P/J for the active. And please tell me I wasn't hearing flats on the passive P and rounds on the active P/J. 4) He said that an active gives you more volume so you have to be careful. That is false - it's the signal that is different, not the volume as such. 5) He said that an active bass cuts through better, especially against loud drums or if you're playing pick. That is oversimplifying to the point of being false. It's not the bass that is helpful or less helpful - it's the musicians, the settings they individually use, and the one mixing the house; those are what must be right. If no one is competent an active bass will give you an unfair advantage but only if you don't know how to use your amp volume knob or bought an amp that is insufficient. Ok, I'll stop. Gosh. This vid is disappointing.
@guydude65465 жыл бұрын
Active pickups made much more sense back in the 70s and 80s, but nowadays when the amps can easily make up for the low output of the pickups i just don't see the point, passive for me anytime
@kimseniorb5 жыл бұрын
Guy Dude he was only talking about passive pickups and preamps. Active pickups is a different concept whatsoever
@guydude65465 жыл бұрын
@@kimseniorb true, I overlooked that, though i still think active preamps are somewhat redundant, i guess an onbord EQ would be useful but i can't think of an ocassion where i'd need to change my eq settings in the middle of a song
@kimseniorb5 жыл бұрын
Guy Dude I agree unless we are talking about emg or mec pickups, which sound really different and not only eq-boost wise. Just a different architecture
@kimseniorb5 жыл бұрын
But speaking of passive+preams I agree in today’s world its not essential
@spynae5 жыл бұрын
Most (if not all) amps lack a low-impedance input (XLR inputs on amps tend to expect line-level signal) that would facilitate the use of an unaided "active" pickup's low output; in general they need at least some source of gain for the natural capacitance of a long cable to not reduce the signal to nothing by the time it would even reach the amp. The signal-to-noise ratio would be far too low if you relied solely on the gain in the preamp stage of the amplifier (or elsewhere in your signal chain, such as from a boost pedal, a compressor, or pedal with buffered bypass) in order to boost the signal of a low-impedance pickup (this problem is compounded by the use of regular instrument cables, which are more susceptible to picking up external noise than, say, an XLR cable; noise which would be amplified at the preamp stage). That's why very low-impedance pickups are basically unheard of, despite the flat frequency response being fairly ideal with some good signal processing. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is the specific low-impedance pickup used in Warwick's Jonas Hellborg bass; while it has an onboard buffer for a 1/4" output, that can be bypassed with a balanced XLR output that requires the bass to plug into a microphone preamp (or, presumably, any instrument amplifier with a balanced input which provides gain).
@sbentsen27145 жыл бұрын
Man I’m done with Active basses, I’m so glad I don’t hv to deal with the battery issue anymore. So lame, for my situation how often I play & hv to leave it plugged in, etc Active no bueno. Also I found dynamically Active pickups aren’t as open to responding to how much energy I put into notes. I love being able to tell the bass how to sound, thru my fingers & my playing. Love it 😁
@EMan-tp4zp5 жыл бұрын
ive had batteries go mid-song. Carried spares, just a pain
@mrpres175 жыл бұрын
I have some Bill Lawrence pickups that are so hot, they're almost in the ballpark of an active pickup. They also have way more clarity than the stocks pickups. I'd definitely buy them again because of the awesome tone 🤘
@-k-b-5 жыл бұрын
I find passive pickups to always sound better, it really comes down to player/amp set up/pedals/etc. So active electronics or pickups just make shit even more complicated
@hyalinamusic185 жыл бұрын
I've got a jazz bass with passive pickups and an Ibanez soundgear with active pickups. I like both, each are good for different situations.
@innocentoctave5 жыл бұрын
I think it was a good decision to emphasise that the real difference between passive and active basses is not the pickups themselves, but how much boost and EQ control you want on the instrument itself. You can do everything that the onboard preamp and EQ do with pedals or other outboard gear, all of which is powered ('active') in one way or another. Having that stuff on the bass itself is a major convenience in some situations: but since the pickups themselves are passive, regardless of the active circuitry, there will always be another way to get those sounds.
@joeyfitz94 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He's thorough, direct, straight to the point. Thank you! And he's playing Jamerson @1:57. Yes.
@LanceWillMakeIt3 жыл бұрын
Well, a lot of this is misinformation
@chris2fur4013 жыл бұрын
I prefer both. I do session work in the studio and fill in for people often at live gigs. It depends on what style you’re playing. For a beginner, I’d look into a bass with a active/passive switch maybe.
@markbrock41705 жыл бұрын
Okay. I came to this instruction with an intellectually honest and open mind. I learned on a 1972 passive Fender Precision. I seemed to be able to cut through all of the noise of the drums and the lead guitars. I also was able to slap, pull and pop like I do on an active bass. Therefore, based on your statements I should have been an excellent bass player. However, I wasn't. The question still stands, passive or active? Based on your instruction, I would humbly have to say active. No more teaching for the progression of active basses, I would presume? Balance, my friend.
@markrodgers29765 жыл бұрын
Solid presentation. And, what I personally came away with from this, is that now I KNOW I don't want an active bass !! (i'm a big fan of simplicity).
@nikwik53515 жыл бұрын
Passive basses make so much more sense, I'd rather have my pre-amp / DI on my pedalboard
@Jack-pp2ng4 жыл бұрын
My first bass was active, it sounded good for a while but then started crapping out on me so I just took out the active circuit and made it a passive bass, I prefer passive
@VmShpman824 жыл бұрын
I knew there were batteries in my bass, but I didn't realize how the batteries can go to waste. I've never heard of Lakland basses before. I never really researched pick-up history before either. Thanks for the good video. I like both Passive & Active.
@paulraffles875 жыл бұрын
Active pickup? I think it is passive pickup with preamp.
@rockereivanivan4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, hate when people confuse those, basically you have 4 options, passive pick-ups no preamp, passive pick-ups woth active preamp (the best option I believe), active pickups without preamp and finally active pickups with active preamp
@PinguinoSod4 жыл бұрын
@@rockereivanivan and then multiply this by precission, jazz and pj basses and you have 36 different bass options to choose :(
@HeLicks4 жыл бұрын
@paperchasin23 chill out lol
@Sjrm1264 жыл бұрын
You can also have active preamp with an active preamps
@chiharutakahashi51124 жыл бұрын
Eivan lml I prefer the simplicity of calling them either active or passive Basses, even if the pickups are either passive or active I like to call them what they are based on how many knobs are on the bass rather then the pickups itself. As I cannot find much examples of a bass with an active pickup without a preamp either I am looking at the wrong place or the wrong brand.
@taketwo_duo4 жыл бұрын
If you already have a passive bass then just buy an FX pedal to make it active and in fact get more tonal options than with active pickups.
@dhruvchandra60495 жыл бұрын
This man is great! He explains everything so well and so simply. Reverb, please put out more videos with him in them.
@CNick755 жыл бұрын
A lot of misleading generalizations, half-truths and misinformed opinions in this video. I respect the effort but this has a lot of bad information in it mixed in with a few good points.
@zingbasstube5 жыл бұрын
Omg! You are talking about "active preamp" and "passive electronic" on bass. Not active or passive pickups. Please stop say that again.
@BZK333 жыл бұрын
This video is full of shit man.. don't bother.
@Noone-of-your-Business4 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. Cutting through the mix depends on sound shaping, and you can (in fact, _should_ ) do that in the pre section of your bass amp. You also usually have more complex shaping options there than the basic bass/mid/treble on your "active" instrument. Signal degradation in the cable is really the only argument for me to ever use active. And while some might argue that an "active" signal has slightly more dynamics, I dare say you can match the active vs. passive sounds of the same instrument with appropriate pre-amp equalization. I don't think the difference will be notable - as long as you do not use a crappy - or too long - cable. Hmmm,... maybe I really need to test my basses... I am no fan of the rudimentary 3-band EQs on an instrument. I don't ever need the treble to be higher than neutral, and I never touch bass and mid, so I have 2 knobs that I constantly need to check if they are in the neutral position I want them in. As for giving your thin-sounding bridge pickup the oomph it needs, I find a 3-band EQ completely unsuitable for this. I use the _EQ balance_ on my Trace Elliot, which gives me an absolutely fantastic gnarly, bone dry mid bite that is far more than just cranking the parametric mid EQ on the instrument. I wonder why they don't make these any more. Come to think of it, I find current bass amps strangely wanting in sound shaping options. They have become really cheap and small and incredibly powerful, but the pre amp sections don't hold a candle to my 30-year-old GP12-SMX. Anyway, I really would have liked a comparison of the _same instrument_ in active and passive modes against each other - with matching EQ compensation.
@goncalomarques27115 жыл бұрын
I use a Sire, and you have a switch to choose between passive and active, and I think if you know how to use it, is the best option
@lcbryant785 жыл бұрын
Gonçalo Marques tell me more about the sires, what are your complaints, does it adapt to pedals well?
@maxonmendel57575 жыл бұрын
Is there a way go install this into an already active bass?
@kimseniorb5 жыл бұрын
@@lcbryant78 why wouldnt it? its a jazz bass
@cantstopplayingmusic5 жыл бұрын
The P/J bass demoed here has the same feature.
@raine42144 жыл бұрын
Alembic was the first company to offer active bass options in the early 1970's. Thank them for not only producing some of the best guitars out there, but for also setting the standard on active electronics
@larslevinberget95582 жыл бұрын
Their guitars were never popular, but their Basses very good and the electronics superb! You could take an old Fender P-bass, install Alembic electronics and it would sound like a million bucks through a Peavey TNT-amp!
@bobs15404 жыл бұрын
I think both active and passive are great. Sure it may not be truly active pick ups but still there’s a difference in set up. But either way no matter what you’re playing it can all be shaped with your hands and other materials at your disposal. Most people at a gig wouldn’t know the friggin difference if it was active or passive bass. You would just listen to the tone and like it or not.
@vonicrimson36193 жыл бұрын
I always go active because metal. I use mainly a stingray, I also prefer schecter since they’re really awesome for my style. And yes I sweep pick on bass.
@PSXBOX-lz1zq Жыл бұрын
Me too, after playing passive for years, after i shifted to using active I cant go back to passive, and Im also a metal bass player
@VanjaSpirin Жыл бұрын
@@PSXBOX-lz1zq I am old metal bass player. So I spent many years trying to get Steve Harris tone, wich is basically p-bass and Trace Eliott. And the best aggresive and punchy bass tone is with Ampeg and active Stingray to my taste. Not a big fan of a p-bass, partially because of a p-bass cult, where everybody histerically adores p-bass. In gets on my nerves.
@thekatazsiuniverse48683 жыл бұрын
"Passive probably won't cut through in punk and metal", I raise you Steve Harris
@arthuraguirrejr.95003 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go on a bit of a tangent here: I can't hear Steve's bass live. I feel the presence of a bass, but I can't hear his iconic basslines. Tbh in any big bass arena/stadium, any bassist's tone that I admire gets lost in the sauce.
@btoledo905 жыл бұрын
Jake, you likely don't read KZbin comments on these videos, but just in case you do... I just wanna say that, as a musician who grew up in your scene in Santa Fe, New Mexico, I am so fucking proud to see you making videos with Reverb. Keep up the good work.
@evanpincus22035 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Toledo Santa Fe represent!
@nickandthecrisis5 жыл бұрын
Albuquerque here!
@mattymodeerf5 жыл бұрын
love your wholesomeness bud
@bookbm4 жыл бұрын
Jake Hawrylak, I wanted to say thanks for all the bass videos you are doing. Selection is limited in my opinion, you provide that shit we need to be aware of as bassists.
@krishall92254 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this host and the channel's content, but when you emphasize so much how well one type cuts through other instruments versus another, maybe Reverb should invite other musicians to demonstrate that difference. Just a thought
@julianthesmooshyhusky89763 жыл бұрын
The push/pull bypass is the great equalizer. I usually rock it passive and just use active mode for a little extra boost for slap or soloing.
@rome81805 жыл бұрын
The criticisms in the comments are fair, but I just want to say that the B-15N is my dream amp. I played on one once. I've never heard my bass sound better.
@rkharper5 жыл бұрын
Good player, but he talks BS. A passive bass doesn't cut through ?! Dude, you've got a battalion under your feet!!!!
@mikkohirvela3095 жыл бұрын
Rafi Kirder Yeah, quite often it’s actually a passive p-bass what you need to cut through the mix.
@pntballfreek5 жыл бұрын
Most cut I've ever had in a mix was a passive P bass through an Swr stack....dudes blowing smoke out his ass
@drewmcdonald40825 жыл бұрын
@@pntballfreek Right on - I run a passive P bass through a darkglass microtubes b7k ultra and an swr stack and I have to turn it DOWN
@DMSProduktions5 жыл бұрын
It's because he has so MUCH mids scooped out!
@EMan-tp4zp5 жыл бұрын
guy i know... bassist comes in and essentially doubles the Gibson Les PAul in tone. He had zero signature...best musician out of the bunch though. I strapped his bass (chinese P/J 5), turned the treble ON...seriously, thats how close they sounded. He is guilty of having a 5, yet tuning E to D. Dont get a 5 if you cant transpose well. Ya...Geezer Butler never cut through...probably found his bass under a porch couch. The space btwn the notes is where the music is found
@svtbass4 жыл бұрын
This guy always looks like he is in the middle of BURPING whenever he talks
@normg22424 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@MikeLaRock883 жыл бұрын
Right as I read this, I looked up @ 4:49 😂
@TinyDragon5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling people to unplug when not playing - a point people overlook
@brucebrown8855 жыл бұрын
IMHO, active basses were largely rendered obsolete by the pedal revolution, boost, etc. Why carry the pre-amp/eq on your shoulder when you can drop the weight and put on the floor, or in a Bass Fly rig on top of your amp beside you? Also, I believe active basses generally don't record as well as passives. At least that's what engineers tell me... The most important thing that I didn't hear Jake didn't mention, though, is the the nuance issue. Low output passive PUs have more nuance, or "grease" as bassists put it. If you've got the technique and the touch, you can get more expressive nuance out of old low output passive PUs than active PUs of the same type. The actives run hotter, but they tend to be more ON and OFF, without some of that wonderful tonal shading you can get with low output passive PUs. Today you can use pedals or a Bass Fly Rig to give a passive bass a better EQ than active basses have, and make a passive bass run just as hot as any active bass -- while retaining the delicious tonal complexity that many active basses lack. This is part of why there has been such a big movement back toward traditional passive basses in recent years...
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR5 жыл бұрын
There is also the Light-Wave or Opti-Pick guitar pickups that allow you to nylon or steel strings on your guitar, What about Telecaster Bass Guitar that can accommodate 2x PJ996 9 volt batteries.
@ChefNotSoWhites5 жыл бұрын
I wish they would put up tutorials and demos from people that knew what they were taking about. This discussion about passive vs. active pickups doesn’t apply to the demo here. Both basses have passive pickups. One just has a active preamp. There is a major difference between passive pickups with active preamps vs. active pickups with built in or with the addition of a preamp. Active pickups require a preamp regardless if they have an EQ or not.
@Bottomdweller5 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, contrary to what he says there aren't any "active pickup" basses in this video at all, they all have passive pickups. Active bass and active pickup are actually two totally different things.
@DontFeedTheTrolls4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Active vs. passive is less important to an audio engineer. Either way, it comes down to signal-to-noise ratio and that can be improved through isolation. The best players have precise control over the dynamics with a limit to how loud it gets. Whatever you do, Don't try to win at the bass by being louder. It's a guaranteed way to suck.
@sanddab5 жыл бұрын
Love the look of that passive deluxe p-bass!
@ChefZak4 жыл бұрын
First active bass was the MM Stingray in 1977, and that had, and still has a passive pickup with active onboard preamp. "active pickups" did not become more popular in the 1960s.
@jeffreywolcott54244 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t an Alembic the first active bass "
@ChefZak4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreywolcott5424 Actually that's correct, the Stingray was the first production bass with active electronics.
@Angelr_10285 жыл бұрын
I’m happy with my fender jazz bass with Aguilar pickups 😎😍
@slavesforging53615 жыл бұрын
Why are so many people on here saying that active pickups on bass is rare? that's just not true. funk, metal, rock, and even jazz players often use active bass pickups these days. and it seems like everyone on here is confused between active pickups and active electronics. even most of the people that think they're not! i've never seen so much confusion in a simple, straight forward, and accurate video.
@karel20504 жыл бұрын
The thing is passive basses have more character and you like it or not if you like the sound of a passive more than an active go for the passive but if you are a bit like meh maybe go for the active because you have more options with your sound. Passive basses must give you the sound that fits 100% with your liking.
@geerhoar5 жыл бұрын
I like to noodle with effects and find a passive bass works best for those. There are outboard preamps one can use if you want some eq and color
@TheOverlordOfProcrastination4 жыл бұрын
That passive Precision sounds fucking AWESOME.
@randomchannel-px6ho4 жыл бұрын
Passive P-bass and a nice set of flatwounds... that's the way, a passive Jazz bass can sound pretty nice to. Jack Stratton said it best.
@l24dmarks5 жыл бұрын
One more thing to keep in mind - w. passive bass you need to pay more attention to the guitar cable quality and understand why the buffer is helpful.
@johnbovay83534 жыл бұрын
The tone is in neck: Thick neck, thick tone. As for passive vs active? Passive. The EQ is on the amp.
@franklulatowskijr.6974 Жыл бұрын
Twenty five years into playing professionally. Actives are great when you need a boost but are mostly not necessary. Best thing to do is find a bass with a Passive/Active switch, but make sure that the passive mode can bypass the active circuit and won’t die if the pickups do. You’ll probably find yourself eventually going totally passive most of the time anyway.
@jd87fierogt5 жыл бұрын
Not counting my acoustic bass...active, I have a G&L L2000 and a Reverend Thundergun. The L2000 is active with a passive switch but I play passive 100% of the time. The Thundergun is passive but potent. Would I buy an active bass without a passive switch? Absolutely no need to. I'm definitely all about tone and I've already found perfection.
@juzek19585 жыл бұрын
I love my '97 Fender Jazz Deluxe (1 9vt always on). I can use flat wounds and cut thru the mix.
@gregoryp2033 жыл бұрын
active bass isnt just a pre-amp and active tone controls. the pre-amp has a high input impedance thousands time higher than the input impedance of a standard bass amp. This makes more voltage sensitive than current sensitive this mitigates the resonance caused by the inductance of the pickup. Pickups colis are big inductors and inductors are low-pass filters. The way an inductor works as a low-pass filter has to do with the phase relationship it creates between voltage and current. By reducing current you reduce the low-pass effect of the pickup coil . Having an amp with a high input impedance makes it more sensitive to noise , so you want to put that amp as close to the signal source as possible . hence active onboard electronics. Also, if there are less windings there is further less inductance and therefore less low-pass filtering but less windings means low volume. Having an onboard amp allows you to have less windings without low volume since the amp amplifies.
@FrancoGrimoldi5 жыл бұрын
Those "active" pickups are passive...
@bowel_movement5 жыл бұрын
Your definition of "active" is wrong. "Active" pickups incorporate electronic circuitry to modify the signal. Active circuits are able to filter, attenuate or boost the signal from the pickup. The main disadvantage of an active system is requirement of a battery power source to operate the preamp circuitry. Batteries limit circuit design and functionality, in addition to being inconvenient to the musician. The circuitry may be as simple as a single transistor, or up to several operational amplifiers configured as active filters, active EQ and other sound-shaping features. The op amps used must be of a low-power design to optimize battery life, a design restriction that limits the dynamic range of the circuit. The active circuitry may contain audio filters, which reduce the dynamic range and mildly distort certain ranges. High-output active pickup systems also have an effect on an amplifier's input circuit. - Wikipedia Any pickup that has an electrical circuit that requires power is an active pickup. So a pickup with a preamp is an actual active pickup.
@FrancoGrimoldi5 жыл бұрын
@@bowel_movement: so maybe Fender, Sadowsky, Fodera, Ibanez, Lakland, Musicman, Yamaha, Warwick are all wrong, you should definitely tell them ASAP!
@ilpatongi5 жыл бұрын
Body Movement Not really, the pickups themselves don’t require any circuitry. Real active pickups like EMGs can work without the need of a preamp, they already have it inside the pickup itself. That’s why EMG sells active pickup kits that include passive volume knobs whilst the pickups themselves have the battery connection.
@ulrikehandler30755 жыл бұрын
@@ilpatongi Yes, but the only difference is that the EMGs have preamp built in - which has advantages and disadvantages: e.g. it is not possible to use a common passive treble control (resistor + capacitor against ground) with EMGs as it will not change the resonance frequency of the pickup - it sounds completly different....
@doca93575 жыл бұрын
hmm, had a gibson RD artist years ago, huge preamp with, two 3 way switches, was supposedly designed by Moog with Entwistle input, had a huge amount of possibilities, also had, still have a 1st year G&L L1000, single humbucker, bass/treble tones and a 3 way switch, dual, single and reverse polarity, still had plenty of umph and volume in double coil mode, matched the output of 2 of the 9 variations available from the gibson
@rosewurkz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarity and simplicity ☺️
@hodaridaniels87864 жыл бұрын
I sort of prefer the active pickups because it has a beefier sound than a passive bass has, that's decibels of difference.
@TonySnider69 Жыл бұрын
I am planning on getting a bass. It is active/passive since I have no idea what I want. I really enjoyed the video.
@razzo25385 жыл бұрын
Just have the best of both worlds, my Warwick is active and I can switch it to passive why not have a choice at your fingertips?
@pitinhabitant4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you can also just take out the batteries
@사그랑이3 жыл бұрын
thanks for upload! I understaned the difference active bass and passive bass WOW!
@gianlucabassi88532 жыл бұрын
I bought an Active Yamaha and had a ton of noises in my combo. Sold brand new. With passive no noises at all.
@Roeg02272 жыл бұрын
idk who this guy is, but i like the way he speaks
@tricosteryl3 жыл бұрын
Well finally he doesnt tell about the real differences... "active pickups" OMG... as said in a previous post below, please understand "active bass guitar" - Active bass have a wider bandwith, that means more bass and high frequencies because the preamp is boosting these frequencies that are very low level at the output of the pickup. - Active basses have more dynamics because of the above. "Attack" of notes are better rendered. - Active basses have potentially a more balanced sound (that was the main purpose of installing a preamp at the begining) To the ear, low notes and high notes get out at roughly the same volume, and this is very interesting for the musicians as well for the technicians at gigs and engineers at the studio. Best balanced basses are from Wal, lucky if you could fund at least £6000 and wait 3 years to get yours new. - Active basses can achieve wider tonal range because they benefit from both the cut and boost capabilities for bass, middle and treble, whereas passive basses tone control is only a "cut" action on high frequencies. But be careful of unbalanced sound... - Passive bass sound is "closer to the wood", more natural. Keep in mind the following : - Active basses are not "better" than passive basses. They just sound different, and this is important to take into account according to your style and the music you play. - Active electronics do not compensate a bad guitar construction. In any case, you shall try an instrument "dry" unplugged to check the response, sustain and that the construction is adequate. And never trust someone telling you should fear battery depletion... If you read the Musicman booklet, you will read that the battery can last thousands of hours . The same with Warwicks (telling about basses I own). The autonomy may be a concern in profesional use, as 1000 hours of play are rapidly achieved in a couple of months, but for hobby, dont worry. You just have to change the battery each year because of its natural depletion. Enjoy bass :)
@nicolas29034 жыл бұрын
Shoulded made the comparison with an passive vs an active jazz bass. A Pbass and a PJ are two different work horses
@danielmoriarty7515 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!!!!! A passive bass won’t cut through the mix now that’s some funny shit.
@richardmilligan14104 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what live in an arena sound engineers told Flea so he had to go back to his active Modulus. That was story I read years ago.
@DefenderB0SS5 жыл бұрын
Fender jaguar bass, hot rod red, crafted in japan, active jazz pickups. Thats the stuff
@busterrabbit4 жыл бұрын
Almost all "active basses" have standard passive pickups and a pre-amp, and most can be played without much change in tone or output, unless you are usually boosting active tone controls, in which case I'd turn up your amp gain instead.
@ianjohnson49875 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. Love your tone on the passive demo. Thanks
@nrich51274 жыл бұрын
If you are using a bass with "active electronics" when you switch the electronics off the pickups should become passive so you should have both options. However some basses might not have this optional switch.
@jasoncarraway9665 жыл бұрын
That is a real gem of a pbass right there damn. Dude sounds much better on the passive P
@michaelstephenson63903 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the real difference here was the fact that one of the two basses had one more bridge pickup while the other just had the one in the middle. That's why the active one cut better. It's not because it was active. Bridge pickups always cut better then middle or neck pickups. It's not about whether it's active or passive. It's wire coils versus batteries. One of the two you don't have to worry about going out on you in the middle of a gig and if set up properly will be noiseless. Parallel wiring is virtually noiseless and that's the standard for modern pickups. If you want to boost the signal use a pedalboard. In my experience passive tends to have a fuller sound then active.
@robertogrady27984 жыл бұрын
Excellent, clear info for me - brand new to bass. Cheers 👍👍👍
@createlovehappy4 жыл бұрын
Old Fender P bass through single 15” End of story. Done.
@BZK333 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Why? You live in 1960?
@mickavoidant47803 жыл бұрын
Ibanez SR Series have passive pups with active EQ. SR500E upwards have a switch for active bypass.
@ronherrera66515 жыл бұрын
Nice job on that Jamerson Motown lick on the P bass.
@JamesDavisakaRemguy3 жыл бұрын
Gee, was that example of slapping really a practice exercise out of "Slap It"? Oh yeah, page 11 example 3 - my favourite. Gotta love those hammer on octaves! No but seriously, you're demoing active basses and you pick a guy that can't slap? On a P-bass? At least it was a Deluxe. Final gripe: why a Mexican? Fender wouldn't send them an American? They SELL basses, don't they have one kicking around? I dunno, am I asking too much? Did anyone else feel this way? Feedback (positive AND negative) is appreciated. Do suck? Thank you.
@JG-ux7of5 жыл бұрын
Active pickups, they cut alot better. I have a Musicman Stingray and Fender Jazz Deluxe and I never have issues. My P-bass and my old Musicmaster struggle using the same setup. However I think my P-bass is the best at sounding good all the time no matter the genre so I used to use it to record and played the Stingray and Jazz Deluxe live and in rehearsal.
@VanjaSpirin Жыл бұрын
Iam a sound engineer, and you are totaly wrong.
@jamessmith-zk4co5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Very informative, but you're talking about basses with onboard preamps compared to passive basses, right? Thanks so much for doing this vid.
@prestong5153 жыл бұрын
I have passive emg pickups and there awesome
@GeoffZalot5 жыл бұрын
The active bass is a PJ, not a Precision. The caveat given for the passive is that you'll need pedals or amp tweaking to boost the signal. I've played passive for 30 years, you just set the amp to the gain and volume you want, nothing to it. The caveat given for the active is that you'll need a pedal to cut the signal. Why would you need to cut the signal that your pickup system is designed to deliver? Valid if you have a non-MV amp or one with no gain adjustment, maybe but that's not going to apply very often. And last, a passive bass won't cut through in a loud band? If you can find a punk album recorded before 1984 with an active bass, I'd love to hear about it.
@carlcushmanhybels81595 жыл бұрын
The Active bass has a lot more high end and string sound & brings out any buzziness? Doing mellower /clear base runs sounds easier with Passive pickups. For funk though, Active.
@slavesforging53615 жыл бұрын
Metal or punk too. just like he says in the video.
@emdiar65885 жыл бұрын
My Aria has excellent actives, but the best thing about it is it also has a great passive option at just the flick of a toggle switch. No flat battery crisis for me. I don't get why all active basses don't have this option.
@cantstopplayingmusic5 жыл бұрын
The P/J bass he's demoing has that option. Don't know why he didn't mention it.
@joermnyc4 жыл бұрын
Fender sold a Jaguar bass that had BOTH passive and active circuits about 10-20 years ago. They still still Jag basses, but if it doesn’t have the chrome control plates on both sides of the strings it’s not that Jag bass.
@chillimont5 жыл бұрын
It does beg the question... If you have a good bass, with good woods and good pickups, doesn't 'active' sorta remove the benefits? I think it could maybe stifle the 'personality' of the bass? Unless we're talking Stingrays, it seems a shame that YOUR sound should be reliant on a 9v battery.
@dionr11685 жыл бұрын
David Ellefson, Frank Bello, Tom Araya, and Robert Trujillo all use active pickups. Those are the Big Four, and I want to sound like the Big Four, so Active it is.
@robertsmith57445 жыл бұрын
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@Geriatric_Punk2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. It aswered a lot of questions I had.
@Shoot_and_Scoot5 жыл бұрын
I have a squier vintage 70’s jazz with original 74 pickups and I don’t need any friggin signal boost. It’s as loud or louder than my bass with active eq
@Shoot_and_Scoot5 жыл бұрын
Also I’ve never had the need for a “fresh new battery” in my active bass I just always unplug. Even when I was gigging non stop I’ve never had. Battery die except for leaving it plugged in
@vvavie48585 жыл бұрын
So, basically, long list of why not to every buy a active bass ever again. I can get all these tones with a fender bassman amp. Also the Squier bronco is a hell of a guitar. My first bass and honestly haven’t found a reason to upgrade.
@ToxicSentinelTTV Жыл бұрын
I have an ESP-LTD 5 string with passive humbuckers (EMG HZ) and a Mitchell MB200 active, both sound good to me 🤷🏼♀️
@yocraigst5 жыл бұрын
Please, on another video, distinguish between basses with active pick-ups VS. basses with passive pick-ups but active pre-amp. Or is there a difference?