When Can I Defend Aggravated Assault From A Police Officer? A John And Tim Analysis

[@otetechie]

Long story short, hope you survive, and hope the system cares more about you than itself. One reason people insist that you use the proper channels is because they have control of the proper channels and they're confident it won't work.

[@ASPextra]

Honestly I think your last sentence is too skeptical. But I get it.

[@reallydoe2052]

@@ASPextraI didn’t even know this channel existed gotta promote it Brodie

[@ledhit]

this is a wonderful conversation that needs to be had

[@runninonempty216]

Answer? The battle of Athens. The Community takes up arms and goes to battle against law enforcement...and prevails.

[@grsnowball]

...and survive? Rarely.

[@moxdob294]

Maybe other officers who witness, but don’t act, should also be charged with aiding.

[@ASPextra]

I think that the murder of George Floyd showed that happens.

[@justinedwards7693]

It happens all the time.

[@seanburke997]

​@@justinedwards7693lol, pull the other one

[@cycleboy8028]

@@ASPextra needs to applied prior to death. “Duty to Intervene” needs to be SOP and legally actionable, not just civil/reprimand that is suppressed internally.

[@henryjackman3160]

Some states have Duty to Intervene laws. Good luck making a prosecutor actually charge them with it.

[@AlitaGunm99]

This drives home to me how much the police are an occupying military force.

[@calorion]

They literally have superior rights.

[@milesnorsworthy946]

Useful information for ~40% of police spouses.

[@ericgroves300]

Whilst I agree with being extremely careful about intervening for a third party, this didn’t really at all address if YOU are being violently attacked by a rogue officer. This is Active SELF Protection, and I feel like that got dodged.

[@EvilWhiteColonialist]

You can beat the wrap , but can you beat the ride? There's also, not mentioned here, that this is the perfect application for mace. It ends the assault, might not get you shot, and is easier to defend in court.

[@otetechie]

You’d still probably not survive…

[@seanburke997]

​@@otetechie"I was afraid for my life, so anyway, I started blasting..."

[@1anthonybrowning]

Just because a cop should go to prison, doesn’t mean he will go to prison. This year a video of a Rusk Co., TX sheriff deputy murdering a man was released, after his trial. The jury didn’t convict him. I was sure from seeing the video the cop started by violating rights and when the guy tried to flee was shot dead that the cop committed murder. The jury officially concluded different. Another cop not held responsible for his crime.

[@ASPextra]

Did you see all the evidence that the jury saw? Did you watch the trial?

[@1anthonybrowning]

@@ASPextra I saw the video from the dash cam. I live one county over. It was all over the local news. His Terry search wasn’t for weapons like it should be (IIRC). I remember him doing a deep search of his person. That’s a 4th amendment violation. The victim resisted, it went to ground, the victim popped up and ran, the deputy shot him in the back as he was fleeing. Victim wasn’t a threat to anyone as I saw it. If the cop had not been all about violating his constitutional rights, things might have been different. I think the cop overreacted though and shot the man because he thought he could, nit because he needed to. That’s how I saw it anyway. I’ll concede to you, John, that people can see that case both ways. I think you did a video a while back on it and came to a different conclusion than I did.

[@victorygarden556]

Bad elk v United States and the other case on that Wikipedia let you know you can only do so in 14 states as of 2009 I believe.

[@HumidorsandHumbuckers]

In court.....

[@S1deshowRob]

Good luck with that!

[@jasonshults368]

No, thanks. No one but the government wins in court. Those who know, know.

[@stevecarter2539]

Be the best witness that you can be, get your camera out and stay out of the way

[@KyleDixson-o1i]

Yeah

[@1a1u0g9t4s2u]

In the example of todays topic: a case of...you might be right to draw on a LEO, but you will be dead right. Thanks for sharing.

[@bradyhoffmann1186]

Seems like a touchy subject to fight in the moment

[@rudyg528]

I'm 69 and I learned a lot from my grandfather and one was don't ever argue with a police officer as you will not win.

[@jjroman7658]

Im 1 minute into this video and before I go on Im going to say this. Im curious to see how long this video stays online until its removed or your are pressured to do so.

[@ASPextra]

Ain't no one can pressure me to do what I do not want to do. :)

[@jjroman7658]

@@ASPextra Get approached by the alphabet boys and you'll fold like a 2-7 off suit.

[@ASPextra]

As opposed to you, who talks tough on the internet. Got it.

[@forestcampbell8962]

Dang, guys really?

[@joeldale97ii]

So this the exception to the rule with regards to citizens needing spare magazines for gunfights, right?

[@jmullner76]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

[@jasonshults368]

You've got that backward.

[@unclebobthe1]

I've known a lot of cops (WI) most do not shoot more than there required yearly Qual. Several carry post retirement and have told me they haven't been to the range since. Then there are the ex military guys who clearly lived the life. Different story there.

[@PrimalInstinct0704]

So says cops have special protections but then says they are on equal law as citizens. contradiction much

[@knndyskful]

The answer is you can’t, you don’t fight in the street, you fight in court, as Michael Franzese says when he was in the street when the cops came they put their hands up and fought in court, you can’t beat the cops in the street

[@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414]

Man this comment section is a mess lol, does it always get like this whenever LE is discussed?

[@ASPextra]

It sure can. :) I think most comments are fine.

[@marcmalonzo566]

2:36 I thought No One is above the law.

[@Timboykee]

Some are more equal than others.

[@otetechie]

It’s not that they are above the law. It’s that the law prioritizes them over you.

[@ASPextra]

Did you not listen to what he said literally IMMEDIATELY after?

[@jaynawilliams8923]

I wouldn't. Why? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@jasonshults368]

You also want to take money from the taxpayers that you haven't earned?

[@jaynawilliams8923]

@@jasonshults368 When did you start thinking I wanted to take money from taxpayers I didn't earn?

[@frankcastle812]

Lol. Tupac got away with it. 😂

[@jasonshults368]

Militias solve problems with police overreach. Courts certainly don't provide a remedy.

[@ASPextra]

That's a mess, dude.

[@elliotandkorbin9988]

Look at Johns incredible weight loss. What are you doing???? Brother, share the secret!

[@KyleDixson-o1i]

Injecting test. Diet, exercise.

[@ASPextra]

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