Rating YOUR RAM overclocks.

[@MrSamuelspark]

Hello Buildzoid. I am the first memory OC. I in fact do not know what I am doing. I come to your videos to try and get an idea of what I am doing. Thank you for your feedback. I was having a ton of stability issues at a couple of lower timings, but I will definitely try disable ecores and come back. Thank you!

[@tsdbhg]

@@neilpirelli9240 are you being sarcastic or do you actually believe it? Can you give some context? Assertions without explanation can be dismissed without explanation. 💩

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

first Some extra information on DR vs SR: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGaxiGuZfbOlnaM kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4vFqYCeat2Ihck tRRDs and tFAW: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXnJiYWLhbGdZ6s

[@samikhan_]

facepalm

[@AgentLokVokun]

Mom said it was my turn to comment first.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

This a goldmine!!! More of these sir! Very much appreciated.

[@Enzarch]

I think you have stumbled into a great format for yourself; This provides structure so you end up getting a lot more coherent information out. Great stuff!

[@lukefranks8795]

AHOC: "an earlier attempt was an hour long, I'll try not to make it an hour long" Also AHOC: 49 minute video

[@Saltssaumure]

Perfect video length imo

[@andytroo]

also AHOC: i need some low effort content

[@AgentLokVokun]

He could just upload his 60 min takes at 1.25x speed and come in under budget! Edit: even 1.10x speed would get the same results :p

[@Ben-ld1qi]

For all I can he can make these videos as long as Joe Rogan's podcasts lol

[@whitemoses7913]

At least it's not 59. But I'm fine with 2hrs or whatever.

[@Savitarax]

I think that doing this stuff is awesome and the time isn’t a big deal for me personally. Hearing what is good and what is the best options teaches us. Hopefully I can bring a kit to the table that’s impressive

[@WillFuI]

Agreed I watch his videos during boring times so I have time.

[@jayferasaurus]

@@WillFuI I watch his videos while I'm waiting for my system to post during ram ocing. I need to burn the time

[@Stalast.]

"Is the next set of timings interesting?" **views my tweet** "uhhh... not really" fuck, I gotta try harder next time haha

[@OldestGoat]

Low effort on your side, high reward on both sides. We get all the do's and don'ts that come up during your reviews. And I think this will be very popular for your channel. The amount of variety you will get with this is super valuable. It's why it's so hard to make over clocking videos teaching people how to over clock. Everyone want to have numbers given to them just to punch in and not understand how each system and situation is different. Every chips IMC is different, the platforms different, each component different. And all those differences show, and the mistakes you point out help us all ensure not make those same mistakes. I love it, keep em coming.

[@felentus]

I would love to see more of this. Learned a lot from it and it's great for listening on the side.

[@scuffed69420]

I'd like to see a part 2.

[@__aceofspades]

33:21 if you want to skip to the most impressive OC. Spoiler, DDR5 6800 with good timings.

[@ammartech3660]

YES, YES, YES, More memory reaction/ correction videos please ! And definitely want my config to be rated by you! 4x8gb on X470 board :)

[@simoSLJ89]

Great balance between Roasting and Rating :D Yes I think this kind of video every once in a while is good! I'm playing with my first bdie kit (2x8 - 3600 - cl16) on an Asus X570-I and 5700G. I hope to get some good results so I can post something even if I'm a normie :D

[@mizajuu]

how did it go?

[@fracturedlife1393]

Massively enjoyed that. Part two would be cool, more random chips or sticks would be cool if there are more in the responses. Look for the 96gb lunatic... Probably loads of revE Ryzen like mself already.

[@halbouma6720]

Awesome! Thanks for the walkthroughs! They were very helpful!

[@christopherjackson2157]

That was cool I definitely learned some things I didn't know before. Still the pcb breakdowns and the oscilloscope videos are my faves. I feel kinda sorry for the last guy you roasted lolz

[@SilkMilkJilk]

17:00 just leaving a note for myself

[@_megazz]

Damn I missed this, it's a nice idea! Will you do another one of these?

[@stuartlunsford7556]

I really should have submitted my overclocks, 64GB of Kingston server CJR at 3800 C16 with ECC on is my favorite lol.

[@mohsinopiani]

This was nice. Would personally like to see more of this.

[@MentalCrusader]

Please do more of them, I think it's very useful

[@AA-kx5es]

Great vid. I like this idea, I’d love to see more of it. As you say, it’s not so high effort but I still like it

[@imadecoy.]

But you haven't watched it yet

[@twizz420]

@@imadecoy. typical "first" commenter, he's just begging for attention lol

[@insu_na]

Buildzoid being absolutely savage to his viewers. Love it! Slightly mean but very constructive Gonna post my settings as well to get roasted :D (I hope)

[@PwadigytheOddity]

This is actually dank as hell. Who needs effort when you have fun ideas

[@SaarN1337]

Your comment about YT deleting links made me realize how much time and effort I spent for absolutely nothing, lol. OC pics here, articls and forum posts there, and they just silently take it down? Would have been nice to at least get notified, even if it's to be told to forget about posting such crap on their platform, but at least now I know lol.

[@jthang7]

This is great content. For us special memory overclocking folk it helps a lot. It would help to do a video like this like once a month.

[@johannes7166]

Awesome video! I’ve tried to understand timings better and this really helped me! I’d really like this as a recurring theme :)

[@brucepreston3927]

I really enjoyed this! I just started working with memory OC so i'm still learning and this helps alot! It is suprisingly difficult to find good info on overclocking memory!

[@temporaltomato3021]

The dry, biting humor in the intro was great 😂

[@sealx2292]

It was really fun to watch. Might even help many people who get into RAM OC to see many configs with your comments. Moreee parts

[@corsairsloop3234]

If you get roasted by builzoid consider it an honor. Lucky bastards. Great video. Very educational. Thanks.

[@DimkaTsv]

I just met some strange stuff happening with my RAM overclock. I tightened timings even more, at cost of bumping voltage from 1.45 to 1.47 But for some reason, my latency just tanked since my previous tests... From 57.8 ns up to normal 62.4 ns (and even up to 64 ns), which is not normal to happen for no reason UPD... Found culprit = tSME was enabled. Disabling it fixed latency problems

[@mickocstreamarchive]

It'd be great to see more. A million identical B-die tunes might be a bit much, but there's a lot of potential in setups that aren't 2x8GB B-die. If you ever take submissions from the patreon discord I could post a couple...

[@Demon09-_-]

is the new smart thing to to set tras lower then the old trcd+tcl? It used to be that if you went below it there was a possible performance hit as the system can't really use below a certain amount and has to subsititue the number. But since we can't change trc is it smart to use that to lower it?

[@ApexLodestar]

Damn it I can't believe I missed this. Hopefully you plan to do this again soon. This was a fun watch and pretty educational.

[@dmrfnk]

That was some merciless roasting. I was expecting c-dies! Gotta post my own shitty results on hardware I obviously didn't know enough about when I bought it :-D

[@whitemoses7913]

This gives me some confidence in my own memory timings. Good to know that all those countless hours didn't go to waste. And as a "low effort" content by BZ. There's quite a bit to learn from it. Or at least confirmed or debunked some concepts and misconceptions that ones might have.

[@LegionGamingTV]

I just picked up my first intel chip which is a 12600k, and can get 5.4 allcore at 1.275v on a 120mm evga aio!!! thanks buildzoid for the memory oc tips!!!

[@hopey1809]

Crazy OC if stable

[@LegionGamingTV]

@@hopey1809 It works for Cinebench R20 and all the games I play.

[@hopey1809]

@@LegionGamingTV which board do you use? I am wondering if it makes an OC difference

[@areng871]

Got my bdie run 5000 cl 16 @1.8v for pi benching and geek. 4800 cl 15 on 3d benchmark. Partiot viper 4400 eith cezzane 5600g, just posted late on tweeter. And yes i bought this ram upon seeing yours and my fellow teammates recomendation 🥰

[@Wasmachineman]

Buildzoid Reacts: your shitty RAM timings

[@mnml3725]

Love your videos bro!!! Can you make one about DDR3 overclocking? That would be really cool

[@bs_blackscout]

Oh I made it. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely try 3600. And yes tRFC is on Auto, my motherboard is weird, RFC says 312 idk if that's ns or what. Update: I hate RAM overclocking 😂, having trouble with stability no matter what I do.

[@mikezappulla4092]

This was awesome man!

[@bndngfn]

we need part 2!!!and more parts pls!! awesome job

[@youssefatmane6321]

will you do other episode of this format ? (if yes i would like to post my results )

[@n1kobg]

Ye do more of these videos. I like it. PS: BTW you are right. Today everyone copies timings from guides or other people without understanding the relations b/w them.

[@ChrisKadaver]

This video was actually great. I've just digged into tweaking sub timings and spent the last week doing so. Since cpu overclocking isn't the same thing as it once was it's really challenging finding the sweetspot and learning how everytinh is tied together. Would love for you to comment on my noob tweak in another video. 😀 Not much exciting though. Micron e die "rev b1"(?) I couldnt simply just use dram calculator though. I'm kind of dissapointed to be stuck at tRFC 560 at 3800Mhz. But I guess theres only so much you can do in this situation?!

[@alsteoaa.]

hello, one question, should I get a build with i7-12700 and ddr5, since it is said that the ddr5 are now not the best I wanted to ask you what I should pay attention to when choosing a motherboard as optimized as possible on the hardware side with this ddr5 technology in view of the future (even bearing in mind to overclock the RAM in the future to 6000 / 6400MHz)? if you can recommend some technical specifications, or what should I give more importance in choosing the mobo knowing that the goal is to get one that I would use with RAM banks more mature than I would buy in 1/2 years when the ddr5 will no longer be "immature". So hypothetically it goes better than the others with DDR5 of the future in practice😅. I ask you pk informing me I noticed a big difference between models of ddr5 motherboards, both for problems that some cards give and others not, and for better or worse optimization of the hardware. Thanks in advance for your patience :)

[@carloscruz7317]

Man I’m glad I came across this video. My frustration may be in the damn ram I have. I have terrible micro stutters I’ve tried everything but swapping the ram. What ram for a 5800x3d should I buy. I don’t know squat about tuning

[@koford]

awesome content, once my new build ready i will *try* timing the memory. once done i will post it. anyway, thumbs up.

[@Atreea]

he noticed my spectek chips in the 2nd one, ill try the sub timings settings later on and report back, because this memory really hates going above 3600 or going below 21 in 3600 along with spitting anything above 1.4v giving me headaches for 2 days before settling on this one, then again the ram cost $65 converted brand new soo yea... to be expected i guess, thank you for the suggestions also with thaipoon the memory type doesn't even come out, its just undefined and just says transcend, the only way to know is by taking a pic of the chip which i probably should

[@haven252]

Is 4200mhz cl16 good for a overclock it’s a patriot viper 4400mhz cl19 but wasn’t able to do xmp 1 but could xmp2 at 4266. Cl19 and 4266 cl17

[@Itallcostsmoney]

This is fantastic!

[@jazzistation4802]

Hello BZ I think that when people ask you for a video about how ram OCing works you could just wrap a video about actual math rules like the one you explain at 26:03 bc thats the knowledge we are missing

[@zacharymorrison4974]

RAM overclocking has a weird learning curve I learn a lot from videos like this

[@nighthog7003]

Nice rant video!

[@previousslayer]

23:14 my city now (full screencap actually had my discord handle in notepad), so scls anywhere below 7 would error. trrd situation is a product of my brainfart at the time. and no, tfaw anywhere below 42 wasn't stable... i don't even remember anymore if that was auto or like a few ticks below auto. a lot of ram i have (second hand ebay junk) does that to me, even on the 5700g. tfaw loose or straight out auto, errors otherwise (i actually grew to love ram that refuses to post at 16, usually means it can do 24 without hassle xd), independent of the trrd set. trfc is pitiful as frigg for 4gbit agnostic of vdimm, my 4gbit g ran 230ns let alone other microns (even cutdowns from 8gbit) that will do 200 and lower... and then you have 8gbit d which hangs around in the lower 200s as is (i think i tested that with my 2133c15 green mushkins?? 240ns on those), and 8gbit a which can run criminally low trfc, being the absolute bsod-ey system restore-y trash in all other aspects. cheers and thank you for the edutainment!

[@H0don]

Wanna part 2! Will be there another Twitter post for 2nd part or still the same as 1st?

[@hairlessmonkeyboy3982]

You call it a low effort video, but you end up spewing out information that I'm sure will prove useful to me with my new 5600G I'll be building soon with CMK16GX4M2Z3600C14. Wouldn't have thought 4400 was doable, but now I'm excited for my first Ryzen RAM tuning experience.

[@tarfeef_4268]

I think you should do this every so often, people learn a lot, and it's ez content for you.

[@the1truefluffy]

You know… I have an MSI x470 gaming pro and every time I touch the RAM timings shit goes haywire. 2700x, Trident Z 4133 CL19 2x8GB kit. I think I just killed my motherboard, it won't POST, it just blinks once after I press the clr_CMOS button. I'm going to look through your videos for a good x570 board and see what I can impulse buy.

[@jayferasaurus]

This video helped me get my timing so much tighter than I even thought possible just by a side comment. Please do more.

[@paveljelinek772]

9:24 nope. Tfaw 16 at any micron (i have micron e-die) causes stability issues in testmem0.12 (extreme1anta) and probably in any mem stress test.. i have trrds5, trrdl9, tfaw32, tfaw30 issues, trrds4 issues, trrdl8 issues.. so that's my micron e-die maxed

[@trick0502]

part 2? id like to send in my cjr 3600 5950x timing.

[@ruidiscos7859]

Hello Buidzoid. I have a system with a "mutant" processor (interposer BGA1440 to LGA 1151). It´s a intel ES QTJ1, a 9 to 10 generation, with 8c/16t. There´s a problem with this setup, for some misterious reason, no one was able do reach more than 2800mhz. So now I´m trying to find good timings for the memories. The memories are XPG ADATA 3600mhz ( I bouth it thinking the system was able). Did you made tests with interposers or this memories?

[@Kageoni]

i would love a seria where you are "fixing"/giving feedback to viewers timings i liked this video alot =D

[@xthetenth]

What's a good way to check how many ranks a memory kit has or even just what chips it has? The talk about replacing a single rank with another single rank kit reminded me I don't really know the best way to go about buying ram.

[@toonnut1]

@ 36:23 of the video you mention that tWRTR (22-10) is not a thing on intel cpu's but I thought you had to change tWRRD (56-44) to change the numbers around. So should you just leave them settings on auto?

[@sandmann521]

Honestly, I feel like the last one would have made a good video all on its own. You ranting about why something is dumb is good content.

[@chateaurosenstein8083]

30:18 high FCLK => 5x check with linpack, if result inconsistent, then too high

[@MiGujack3]

Aww man too bad I missed this. My own full tune is heavily influenced on the knowledge I got from your videos.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

Can e-cores cause error to appear when they shouldn't? I was running HCI up to %1200 error free, with the 140mm RAM fan on about %50 PWM and I was getting 30 celsius msx temps on RAM. I then decided to turn the fan as low as possible and mem temps went to 37c max but I was getting quite a lot of errors on many threads in a short time just going from %1200 to %1300. Running 12700k stock. How is it possible it was running error free for almost a day at 30c max temps but at 37c lots of errors showed up in a short period of time?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

30 to 37c is a big difference for memory stability.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Oh really is that so? Since this is my first rodeo OCing ram, having read on reddit OC forums I was under the impression that with B-Die those errors only show up at 45c~50c+. I'm on Z690 D4, 2x16GB dual rank at 3800-14-14-14-30 with very similar subtimings to the ones posted in recent Z690/D4 videos.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

@@Ben-ld1qi it depends on the sticks and the settings you're trying to run. The more aggressive your timings the more temperature sensitive the RAM gets.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Alright thanks for clearing things up. Because I initially thought that there was something wrong seeing errors at 'only' 37c. I'll experiment a bit to see if I can run error free in the high 30's celsius with looser subtimings. Thanks again!

[@ObviousCough]

what a sweet video idea! sad i missed the boat.

[@GregorMima]

I am currently building my workstation (5950x/570/2x32G 3600 CLK18 atm prob go with 64 more, hopefully moderate timings in the end) ... this content is really helpfull, even for me "normie" ;-) ... Need longtime (5+ years) stabilty ... cheers.

[@peterenis4752]

What about some overclocking guides? DDR5 and CPU?

[@alouisschafer7212]

Im running bottom of the barrel 3200mhz CL16 with fairly loose sub timings. But it does standard CL16 at 3200 and 1,35V so pretty average DDR4 to be fair. How much do you gain by tightening timings? Or going for 3400mhz at 1.5V? It probably wont do it anyways...

[@chomper720]

I got 2666MHz CL13-15-15-35-1T & 3600MHz CL16-18-19-37-GDM, better than stock XMP. :3 (kits are 4x8 dimms of Samsung C-DIE & 2x16 Hynix CJR)

[@jackoneill84]

At this point, I would just like to have Buildzoid roast my ram. Gold.

[@iliasb6869]

Hi Buildzoid, Whats the best z690 ddr4 motherboard for ram overclocking in your opinion?

[@oynamalan]

I have Corsair Vengeance rgb DDR5-6000 CL40 kit on my sistem. I'm using them at 1.26V and XMP enabled. CL30-36-36-72. Works perfectly on my Asus Rog strix Z690-A.

[@FliskerX]

Part two with focus on DDR5 would be awesome :)

[@toonnut1]

I'm confused why you wouldn't stress test with e core's on. If you turn them off for ram testing and not do a stress test how do you know they'll be stable?

[@jammetortiz808]

do more of these

[@Fulmir-]

Any thoughts on 64gb on Ryzen 5000 series? Mix of production and gaming, seems 2x32 is the best way to go?

[@DavoidJohnson]

Excellent!!

[@niikon]

That intro had me lolling xD

[@joelfarris4303]

As someone who is new to RAM OC is there a place to read about a process or general guidelines on how to get started?

[@Rancid_Ninja]

Just overclocked my cl14 14-16-16-36 3600 up to 14-14-14-34 3800, I was failing memtest 7 but after some tweaks it's passing, testing prime95 now

[@shijikori]

wow. I do not feel as bad I expected to about my DR s8b overclock. Just a nice 4266, 18-19-19-44 (iirc). My motherboard doesn't boot 4200 for some reason but 4266 works fine so I'm fine with that. Just 1.41v ish dram. VCCSA at 1.25 ish and VCCIO 1.25. on a 10700K. It survives my Vega56 dumping heat in my small room. It's summer in my small room (28°C) and it's just spring.

[@dagreekratking4694]

Zoid I have crucial ballistics 3200 cl16 mem overclocked to 3600 auto timimings from 2666 @cl15 and 1800 flck. Is that cool with a 5800x on a gigbyte x570 auros 6700xt! It works great so far

[@trae3290]

One day I’ll be on this. Seriously upgrading and I’m interested to try ram oc. Any comments on neo forza Faye 16gb?

[@jaysoncronly7041]

ive got a gibayte z690i and the 2x16 kit of bdie ive got that i know can do 4000+ at decent timings (ran daily at 16-16-16-36) the board wont post at below c16 or above 3600 :(

[@Taraquin83]

Good video. A few things: Regarding fclk on Ryzen 5k if you have single CCD and 2 dimm MB you are much more likely to run above 1900 fclk without WHEA19 and performance regression. You may need to tweak VDD18 voltage. I run my 5600X at 4000/2000cl16 tuned w/o WHEA19 on a cheap GB B550m S2H mobo. I get 1-2% regression in linpack vs 3800cl15, but 1-2% better fps in SOTTR and a few other games. If I raise VDD18 from 1.8 to 1.88v perf in linpack is identical to 3800cl15 so no regression, and SOTTR is 2-3% faster when cpu bound. As for timings: Shouldn't RTP be half of WR? And RFC divideable by 8 on 8gb sticks and 16 on 16gb stick? (2x16 DR B-die would get same performance running 256 as 241 RFC, but better perf at 240). This according to Anta777. You know a lot more than me, Anta seems to know a lot. What do you think?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

with my 5950X I uses 2V on VDD18 for bencmarking at high FCLK. it doesn't fix the performance regression in stress tests.

[@Taraquin83]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking from others experience there is no fix for perf regression past 1900 fclk on 5900X and 5950X, but single ccds can sometimes benefit from higher fclk if tuned properly with ProcODT, VDD18 etc :) My 5600X at 2000fclk got better perf at 32 ProcODT than 28, but when raising VDD18 by 40mv they behaved the same.

[@bbt.musicstudio3333]

Hello, do you have any advice for a DDR5 mobo with i7-12700 that I will be upgrading RAM to in the future using DDR5s that are no longer "premature"?

[@lietome2153]

hello buildzoid. i have g skill trident z NEO 3600 cl 16 16 16 36 2x8GB. is it ok to mix it with trident z RGB 2x8 kit with the same frequency and the same timings.. cause i want to have dual rank set up. coz theres the NEO is out of atock here in japan. i jus wantt to run it on XMP. is there a performance difference in gaming?

[@LinkStorm13]

13:18 I have zen+ cpu and anything above 3200 gets unstable as soon as the imc hits ~60°C Still, I can boot up to 3733 on very loose timings. It just isn't stable and gets even worse, when the cpu gets hot.

[@Wasmachineman]

Zen+'s IMC is garbage. t. Ryzen 2600/3466 CL14-14-14-28 1h of TestMem5 Extreme stable though!

[@anarcat6653]

@@Wasmachineman my Zen+ can boot 3733 c14 flat, impossible to stabilise though. but it can.

[@billkillernic]

What about making a RAM overclocking video explaining how ram timings correlate with each other and how to fine-tune them ?

[@ejosephsimon]

I just installed a 4x8 kit of viper 4000MHz/CL16 into my z490 MPG gaming edge/10900k, enabled XMP everything works great. Wanting to maximize my gains from the new ram.. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. PS this kit replaced a Trident z 2x16 3600 Non-Bdie kit.

[@macht242]

16:30 Wait so that means I got lucky with my B-die 4000 cl16 and my 3200 cl14 kit both able to do 3800 cl14 with 14 TRCD's (technically the WR is 8) AND be able to run them both in a 4x8 config with the same (and even tigher) settings?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

well if you shove enough voltage into B-die pretty much all of it will do TRCD 14. but with 1.5V or less TRCD 14 is very good.

[@RicardoPenders]

I post links with my comments pretty regularly and only when the channel owner has it configured to auto remove or when you first want to check the comment it will get listed for you to approve or decline and only then will the comment not go through. I also think that as long as you use KZbin links to another video or channel that KZbin will approve, not 100% sure though. I know that KZbin also has a blacklist for links they don't want you to use but I don't know which websites are on that blacklist.