Making Micron DDR5 slightly less slow on an MSI Z690 Unify X

[@thatguy7595]

Very accurate work by Micron here to hit just the JEDEC spec and not overengineer the chips to be capable of much more.

[@popstar_pills]

ocing bad ddr5 is fun content, I like seeing how far bad can go

[@crispysilicon]

Thank you for suffering through this.

[@davemichael1859]

Buildzoid, MSI Unify-X vs. MSI Pro - is it worth it to grab the Unify? Does it have more OC capabilities or you just like it because of the IO ports?

[@bene5431]

The Unify-X has 2 dimm slots so it's gonna have better memory oc than the Pro

[@MrCommunistGen]

Any chance you'd be interested in revisiting Micron DDR5 tuning with the new D-Die stuff that's in the Crucial Pro Overclocking kits -- 2x 16GB DDR5-6000 36-38-38-80

[@PrometeusGod]

Is there a "FAN ON THE RAM" / minute benchmark? That first couple of minutes were wild

[@kkrolik2106]

Micron user here Currently testing 1.32V 5400 CL34 - added heat-sinks to crucial green sticks 2x16GB cost me 45 Euro temp sensor shows bellow 50C

[@Nunkuruji]

As an owner of a 4x single-rank micron ddr4 kit, I found that I could never really cheat/overclock required MIN timing parameters listed in the relevant data sheet. I'm assuming circuit limitations that are irrespective of voltage scaling. As such, when I tuned that kit, I built out a spreadsheet that checked I didn't violate the required ns or nCK for those particular timings as I adjusted through various frequencies & voltages. There is a data sheet published for micron ddr5, ddr5_sdram_core.pdf Too bad they seemed to have dropped the ball competitively, but maybe they just don't care to push improvements, if they're still dealing with pmic shortages

[@SpuriousECG]

Micron... Microff

[@AK-yn3wi]

Hey BZ, long time viewer here. Would you consider making a "round-up of best motherboards/gpus to buy" kind of video? You haven't made one in a long while and they're really helpful. I honestly really value your insight into these matters (and have previously bought hardware off your recommendation), but don't have the hours to indulge myself in research. Or maybe is there a non-outdated video of this kind on your channel and I just can't seem to find it.

[@arwo1143]

I’m currently upgrading for Christmas I went with a good B660 board and a 12100f just cause I can easily upgrade to a beefier CPU later and it really is enough for games I went with DDR5 because of the potential it might have I’m getting a 2x8gb ADATA XPG Lancer 5200 CL38 kit because it is a 1Rx8 kit instead of all the other 8gb sticks which all seem to be 1Rx16 after learning about the x8 and x16 thing (with x8 supposedly being 20-30% faster) It’s sadly the only ADATA kit that’s Micron and not Hynix Should I return it and go for a Hynix kit that is x16 instead?

[@heinzletzte.6385]

Micron should be used for low power uses like smartphones and tablets, for desktop it is completely obsolete and useless.

[@weler1806]

V-Colar has an 6200 MHz micron A memory kit TL51662840-E6PGAWK,I found this in the qvl of the unify-x

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

QVLs aren't 100% accurate.

[@marcmathes41]

So I got some ddr4 micron z die 4600mhz 2dimm 32gb kit Corsair. I know it's a high bin but have you messed with z die micron? Is it really just high end micron e die with a mask on? 😂.

[@jeffreybouman2110]

Question: Where can i find that version of intel MLC GUI? Thanks in advance ;)

[@salvatoredevita4403]

How do you test latency, i have set my ram same your, but I have 72ns

[@massimopicone9298]

the same for me maybe it's the cpu i have an i5

[@salvatoredevita4403]

@@massimopicone9298 yes, probably, i've read that the cpu frequency affects ram latency

[@salvatoredevita4403]

Are 1.4v on vdd and vddq too much? I'm trying to overclock my ram with micron chips

[@Luganjahkinghe]

Can u make a test? What is the minimum temperature for max cpu temperature protection in bios? Can u test if it shutdown pc or simply throttling the cpu?

[@sebastiantan1769]

Hi! How you identify the ram die?

[@toonnut1]

You legend

[@rulik007]

Pathetic micron even dont have ic's to match Intel 13gen stock DDR5-5600 specification Launch 27oct.

[@starrims]

whats your room ambient temp?

[@operator2618]

ty

[@ItsJustVV]

If AMD launches more and more Zen CPUs with V-Cache going forward, does that mean RAM OC-ing and enthusiast grade RAM will die? So consequently RAM makers will shrink their business too? Or will intel be enough to keep this going... At some point I think intel will have to have as much (extra) cache like Zen CPUs, either LLC or L3 or something, otherwise they will lose badly.

[@Tomart0]

What you're assuming is, that we will have enough cache to not need RAM anymore, but with the RAM capacity increasing with each generation I assume the RAM requirement from programs etc will increase as well. I don't think that Cache capacity will catch up to RAM capacity any time soon, so I think we will need RAM for the next years.

[@starrims]

@@Tomart0 yeah RAM is not going anywhere for x86. it may seems cool to think A CPU comes with 64GB memory 😂😂

[@ItsJustVV]

@@Tomart0 That's not what I said... read again my comment. I said "enthusiast grade RAM" - not capacity, but performance RAM. We don't need DDR4 4000+ with 5800X3D when it works as well with 3200, so this will mean DDR5 4800 will be enough for Zen4 V-Cache and not need better/higher speed RAM. Get it now?

[@ItsJustVV]

@@starrims He misunderstood my comment.

[@GewelReal]

@@ItsJustVV the performance still increases, just the floor rises with v cache so the gains are smaller, but still there

[@InternetEntity]

You OK Buildzoid? Something tells me Micron memory makes you miserable. ;)

[@nathangamble125]

"I can't think of a single DDR4 memory chip that won't do 3200Mbps at this point" My 8Gb Rev B downbin RAM: allow me to introduce myself. tbf it might be my memory controller - my CPU is a Ryzen 3 2300X, so the controller isn't great, though I think it should be able to run 3200Mbps. I'll have to see whether I can run the RAM any faster when I upgrade my CPU.

[@PeterMarszalkowski]

I can tell you what I'm doing I go with cpu to 4.88 mhz on all cors turbo 4.2 auto 4.64ghz and get 6 core 5.100mhz all treads ram stays at up to 4166mhz x6 if I do 20mhz more auto 1 core 4.64ghz goes my ram to 3200mhz down to 6x in the normal case with 2133mhz ram no idea oda now more watt is needed than gold 650watt or has to go to 150 percent in the normall case these are the hardcore lvls in the minus the the ram up to 4,800 at 6.8ghz to better ram audmf 2.400mhz drive on 5.1 5.2ghz with nduen cpus it should actually be balanced at 3.7ghz + I think and believe that for 2133mhz ram oc +you only get up to 5.5 ghz so you need ram up to 2.400mhz on 5.7 5.8 around 6 ghz to drive high or 2.600mhz ddr4 to drive 6.2 ghz over 8 cores with the new x2 boost are from 12 cores that could work without avx.512 I think they also go to 5.32-3 or so at 4.88 at 12 with 8 sometimes bost you get eu with 8 gb gpu 2.600mhz even 10k cable 2.1hdm i 14 bit out 6x6x6 with 2400 the cpu combo 12bit 6x6x6 with 2133mhz 10 bit 6x6x6 with 8gb 8k with already 256bit output 740mb/s 356bit 1133mb/s 480bit to 1440mb/s the sec with enough ssd speed then pcie .8.0 7.0 and usb 3.0 3.2 type-c 4.0 thunderbold everything

[@PeterMarszalkowski]

I still rat at 1440mb/s sec 256mb ram ×5 on 24gb x24 klaster ram disc boost with 32 gb gpu on 24 gb ram 8gb gpu for real 10k fps data 1440mb/s per sek on petabyte 24tb that's 1,440,000mb/sx16 speee with ssd with 48gb gpu that is with 18400shader 2x 8 cores boost cpu 16 gb gpu speed rest 32 gb ram on which you ram out for filling the as a pippline real 12k on cable 10k 14 bit at 6x6x6 x6 speed 2600mhz to oc 3300mhz oc gpu ram cpu pippline on 6 ram as said with 8 core 12 k 500hz easy 6x on ssd m.2 4x4 18400mhz balance. 6 kerner 10k real that's so fast you can't even run it because the software loads too fast you can only split it into petabyte servers. You need a 8000hz mouse button for .

[@GewelReal]

It's 100% the CPU It took me few days of fighting to get my 1600AF to 3200MT/s RAM. It can't do ANY higher, even with mega loose timings

[@weasle2904]

micron in general is just shit? DRAM and VRAM

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

they have some good DDR4

[@kelvinyonger8885]

Rev. E was good on DDR4, their DDR5 is garbage though.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

Also the Micron GDDR5 on RX580s is awesome compared to the Samsung and Hynix cards.

[@weasle2904]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I have a Hynix RX 580 and I can only clock it at most 2225mhz