I'm simple. For an everyday commuter car I like the part-time AWD system that doesn't activate until a wheel spins. More fuel efficient and only works when necessary. That said, as an owner of an HR-V, the Real Time AWD system in 2012+ Hondas actually send power to the rear wheels when accelerating from a stop no matter what, then disconnects when cruising. It's an electronic system as opposed to the hydraulic system prior to 2012.
@tonychau19836 жыл бұрын
Subie awd with manual trans
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
@@tonychau1983 Something to be said for a nice, straight-forward 50:50 system.
@johnfarel31526 жыл бұрын
Well, I have a Subaru. The only other vehicle I owned with AWD was a crv and the Subaru's is a better system. But from everything I've read, S-AWD is also top notch and is right there with Audi, BMW and Subaru.
@Fadic46 жыл бұрын
SH-AWD
@Jbiglin4 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! Someone has actually explained the difference between the to AWD systems. I’ve seen others say that they are identical and others say that the Acura System is completely different. Clearly they didn’t know what they were talking about. Nice job!
@mj28inpa6 жыл бұрын
I love my 2018 MDX and its GREAT in snow. It is my third MDX and 5th Acura overall. LOVE ACURA vehicles. Cant beat them for the money!
@nicklarson6575 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just got out fist MDX (2017) a few months ago and I feel the same way. Never own anything else but Acura!
@EncomHumanRecources4 жыл бұрын
Team Acura!! 💪🏼
@bashrenz66062 жыл бұрын
I love my acura 2018 when you put it on the test it will never gonna bring you down i put it on the test last winter storm approximately 55 cm of snow in toronto and i said wow i didn't regret that i buy you hahaha
@707pesci2 жыл бұрын
On my second MDX. Everyone else is sliding out in the snow. Sh AWD is steady as she goes.. Acura is legit
@juancarlossandoval47612 жыл бұрын
I drive a 2020 Honda Passport Elite and the IVTM4 is amazing! You never feel vulnerable when driving in snow or icy conditions. You feel the system at work when driving in snow mode. If I ever lose my Passport I will go buy another one, no doubt about it! It is amazing what Honda has done with its AWD.
@levimagnusson5880 Жыл бұрын
I test drove on in the snow the other day and it seemed like the awd adjusted a lot quicker and effectively vs the ford explorer and even the expedition I also drove
@MrSilus20005 ай бұрын
I had a FJ cruiser that I assumed was good in the snow but it's actually worse than any car. I should have gotten one of those
@sergeymatpoc26 күн бұрын
Completely agree, bought one half year back, it's perfect... Except for the fuel consumption. But in overall, I see nothing that could beat Passport as a technical masterpiece. There are SUVs with much more sophisticated bells and whistles, better fuel economy, even firmer ride (no air suspension available). But in overall, old trusted 3.5 + 9 speed + stiff stabilizers + 20 in wheels + roomy cabin, and the feeling of a real car, not a gadget is precious. People forget that the cars should be joyful and be attractive for an owner all the days of ownership. And that's what I found the most valuable and attractive in Passport, the perfect mix of all worlds, great off-road and on-road capabilities, reliability that won't let me down, roomy space capable of coming to the open movie theater (drive-in) and comfortably laying in the trunk, and still being able to make 0-60 in 6 seconds and cornering faster than ~95% of cars in traffic. The replacement could be Rivian R1S, but nothing less is as capable, especially for the money of the used options
@jonathancaban91533 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2021 Ridgeline; this video does a great job of explaining how the AWD system works. Very helpful and informative. Now I have a better understanding of how it will handle in the snow. Thanks!
@blueridgedsia5 жыл бұрын
remember with sh-awd if you get stuck in snow when you park, turn off traction control so you can get enough torque to blast out of the snow. Dont ask how I know
@haroldbeauchamp37702 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask how you knew that. But I saw your last sentence.
@ldawson1036 жыл бұрын
SH-AWD is the best.
@patrickboyd33646 жыл бұрын
I agree the SH-AWD is much better That's why i keep my 09 TL. AWD even with 155,600 miles the system has never let me down. I was going to trade it in for a 2013 RDX AWD but i decided not to buy one.
@បងម៉ាប់-ញ7ឍ6 жыл бұрын
That was the reason im getting an rdx. Used to own an evo8&x..
@davidsteckley88465 жыл бұрын
The 07 MDX allows full traction control off, oh she's fun to drift in the snow, must shift in manual mode. Unfortunately this test the tester didn't shift in manual mode, honestly the MDX should be sold with a 6sp manual
5 жыл бұрын
Had a 2012 TL SH-AWD.. it was the best... now have full time quattro a6 tdi 2014... both are good systems
@blockbusterz23705 жыл бұрын
I just got my 17 TLX sh-AWD advanced package
@terrailking88076 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! For providing something for Honda and Acuara AWD systems. My mom has a Pilot and I have a MDX Sports Hybrid. We don't get enough videos or credit for these awesome vehicles.
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. The Sport Hybrid is a fourth AWD system from Honda/Acura, where the rear wheels are powered strictly by an electric motor. It’s a very interesting setup in its own right.
@thejake80996 жыл бұрын
Thank you Driving Sports TV for the detailed review. SH-AWD is my favorite and X-drive would be my (2) favorite. I wish you all could put together a comparison on snow, ice, and off-road trail of the luxury SUV competition set. I know unless they all have/had the same winter tires or so....it would be interesting to see how they compare.
@nixboox5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what changes have been made to SH-AWD over the years and how the older versions compare to the modern versions.
@opticstackzz97452 жыл бұрын
i have a 4g tl w sh awd and it is amazing, i have the 2012 model and i think it’s been said the older 4g models have tranny issues but mine has been fine
@Al-yc4cn6 жыл бұрын
If you like the rear bias with a lil more overstear, try sand-mode in the pilot and Ridgeline. It gives a great sporty control while maintaining a higher RPM range so you're always in the power band.
@JonDZ_Adventuring6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video 🙏!!! I think a lot of people were confused with the new CRV thinking it had a much improved AWD system, like the IVTM4, so it’s nice for you to point that out.
@NuVillaRealEstate6 жыл бұрын
Last year I was looking for an all wheel drive vehicle to purchase. Living in Canada, it was very important for me and my Clients. I purchased the TL with SH-AWD. Slap on winter tires, it is AMAZING! Acura has my business for the next purchase as well. You cannot go wrong with the SH-AWD, it's just too much fun!! Great Video, if I saw this last year, it would have been a quick decision for me.
@ivann4025 жыл бұрын
I drove pretty much every vehicle on the market that is available with awd system. And hands down sh-awd is the best in every conditions
@atmartens6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the video! I own a first gen RDX and love the SHAWD. I was sad the second gen went away, but great to see they’ve added it back. Also excited for the new Passport!
@patrickboyd33646 жыл бұрын
I was going to purchase a 2013 RDX AWD but i couldn't part ways with my trusty 2009 Acura TL SHAWD system i love the way it pushes the car when i floor it.
@gazasqreech5 жыл бұрын
Sh-awd is a great system I have a first generation SH-AWD 2005 Acura that I love driving in the snow I have been telling ppl this all wheel drive system is great on wet and dry pavement never got stuck in the snow.
@taylor09412 жыл бұрын
You and Savagageese are truly making the best automotive content anywhere.
@olliechristopher4672 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ryan!! I just purchased the Passport Trailsport. I really like the i-VTM4 system. I appreciate the explanation of how it works in the real world.
@goatsplitter10 ай бұрын
This video earned my sub. Not that that's worth much but the content was very comprehensive, educational, and entertaining. Well done.
@nicklarson6576 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this vehicle. You did an amazing job. Very informative and fun to watch. Honda and Acura are my favorite automovite company! Just like you showed in the video of the sh-awd. This is one of the many reasons me and my wife are going for an Acura the next go around of a new vehicle. MDX to be specific. I have a Chevy Silverado that gas the AWD option..would love to see all the understanding and ins and outs of that! :)
@MCWormGuy5 жыл бұрын
This is a truly excellent video, which is rare these days. Thank you.
@IamGroot7865 жыл бұрын
Yes, that torque vectoring system on my Ridgeline is pretty amazing!
@steveramos14526 жыл бұрын
SH-AWD is most impressive AWD I’ve owned. It’s better than Xdrive and WRX AWD. The rear spins 2.5 percent faster.
@alb123456725 жыл бұрын
@Casper Gomez The lexus gs isn't a bad AWD system.
@spawn115 жыл бұрын
Naah Subaru's AWD is best
@alb123456725 жыл бұрын
@Casper Gomez I think it is pretty good in the snow. And I have real crap tires. It is set up very similar to the WRX, true center differential and it locks when the wheels slip. Passenger wheels on glare ice, others on pavement, it easily moved, even uphill. It will fishtail a bit, it is set up like a truck, uses the same transmission as the tundra.
@alb123456725 жыл бұрын
@Casper Gomez same trans as the truck, we have a different xfer case. RWD has the same part number - A750E . Very very few cars have a planetary diff xfer case. It is truly always on. Any slipping causes the clutch to lock both axles, plus the stability control and all. blogs.youwheel.com/2014/04/04/luxury-sedan-awd-system-review-part-2/ You can run slightly different sized tires and be ok. Most cars have a wet clutch including subaru. It is very overengineed and large (the hump by your right foot is the xfer case). I have summer type tires - must be unstoppable with blizzaks. Now, subaru has symmetric AWD, we don't. There are different version of the AWD from subaru. Subaru is very good but what we have isn't bad either. Don't forget snow mode too. What we have is as good as Many trucks or SUVs. All it may lack is the rear limited slip but the traction control makes up for it.
@alb123456725 жыл бұрын
@Casper Gomez They are specifically engineered for performance driving in snow if you have snow tires. Not so much for offroad. It may be better than subaru in the real world. It is a kept secret. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn-nh2aLZ61gkMk
@Composurezen6 жыл бұрын
Wow i am honestly impressed, that MDX I feel can go through anything! Such amazing tech.
@MrTresto3 жыл бұрын
Well ... anything that it has sufficient clearance for. Actual off road with holes and rocks and stuff it won't go far. It's quite good for most of your common dirt roads (mud season in Vermont anyone) and snow though but it's no 4Runner or Ford Bronco. As far as luxury SUVs go, it's quite good.
@cvaldes1149 ай бұрын
@@MrTrestoright so its light off road and medium duty if modified
@midiman50455 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Thanks. I am currently and looking at a RDX. I had a 1990 4 door legend L which I just sold. Yes car is mint. I miss it every day. Acura's just drive fantastic. MY Legend was effortless driving also.
@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC5 жыл бұрын
I have a Pilot but I've had both first and second Gen CRV's and an Evo ix, and the Evo handled the best. When driving on completely loose snow, I could drive with one finger and the car just drives straight. With the active center diff set on snow, it was amazing. And when you accelerate on snow, you don't get the feeling that one side tries to over power the other side.
@soapa42796 жыл бұрын
Awesome, like to see a video updating on Acura's SH-AWD system. I love these videos!
@1MountainLife5 жыл бұрын
The best feature of SH-AWD is the yaw detection. When offroading, towing or just starting off on a step grade, it will be rear biased and will split the power and drop off around 50mph. I wish my MDX had a 50/50 split option and ability to turn off vectoring completely. My tire wear is fast compared to others and have had the rear kick out on icy corners. I've gotten used to just not accelerating on tight turns when that happens.
@michaeliggena36862 жыл бұрын
Because of this video, I gave Acura serious thought when choosing my newest SUV. I went with the RDX.
@zero2sixty2445 жыл бұрын
The SH-AWD in my RDX is great.
@paulsalvo2354 жыл бұрын
I love it too I own a 1st gen before they gave it the “awd” from the CRV in the 2nd gen RDX
@zero2sixty2444 жыл бұрын
@@paulsalvo235 yup same. I had a 2009 that got totaled (slammed into a pole) then now have a 2010
@ericksanchez77873 жыл бұрын
@@paulsalvo235 only the second gen had the crv awd the 3rd gen is also available with sh-awd.
@Geeksalmonbanana5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 honda pilot and the awd has been a dream this week with all the snow. Thanks for the video
@michaelclarke586011 ай бұрын
My dad has a 2003 Acura MDX Touring. It has the original VTM4. Around ten years ago, he managed to plow through 3 feet of snow with it. It's quite impressive considering in 2WD, the front wheels are driven as opposed to most other systems driving the rear wheels normally.
@hilow41256 жыл бұрын
Great exterior footage of the mdx
@walter777smith65 жыл бұрын
I took MDX AND LEXUS 350 for road test and I like MDX much better more spacious interior specially behind the steering wheel nothing on my way and the ride so smooth . So I am getting MDX .
@Chickennss6 жыл бұрын
I could feel the vectoring in the MDX loaner I drove for a few days once. I cannot feel the vectoring on my 2019 Ridgeline.
@IamGroot7865 жыл бұрын
Really? I totally feel it on mine when taking those curved ramps on interstates at high speeds.
@Montu4g636 жыл бұрын
Love the SH-AWD in our 16 MDX... reminds me of the awd system in my Evo ix and more specifically the x and it's torque vectoring....simply amazing to have in a 3 row cross over. Please do comparison to a competitor AWD system.
@blitzbbffl6 жыл бұрын
I like Audi's torsen quatro system, which is on their vehicles that have longitudinally mounted engines. I live in SW Florida so am lucky not to need AWD. I drive a RWD GLC, so am able to get my "rotation fun" the old fashioned way - with my right foot! 😉
@traviszack34 жыл бұрын
My mom has a 2012 MDX and it's so much more fun in the snow than my 01 grand Cherokee. The Acura is a lot more composed in the snow but when you want to get loose it's a lot more confident
@SilverScarletSpider3 жыл бұрын
So many people want to see iVTM4 in the Honda Civic, Accord, and CR-V 👍🙂
@grahamrothphotography6 жыл бұрын
my 05 crv's AWD is so fun in the snow, it's mechanical, and I've never gotten stuck with it, I enjoy racing Subarus off the line after a snowstorm!
@Slider685 жыл бұрын
We almost bought an MDX, but we wanted to be able to tow an enclosed trailer, about 5000 lbs in winter conditions. We borrowed an MDX for a test drive and without the trailer I was really impressed with how the system performed in the wet and in the snow. It was also plenty of fun if you wanted to play around in slippery conditions with its torque vectoring controlling yaw and allowing mild oversteer. Any time we accelerated the SH-AWD seamlessly kicked in and cornering with any throttle and the torque vectoring would seamlessly kick in and provide very effective cornering, even in slippery conditions. It also did a fantastic job at making sure any tire with grip got torque for when trying to move in unequal slippery conditions. Even experimenting with ice under any 3 tires and pavement under only 1 tire, it was able to transfer power to any tire (including a single front tire by applying the front brake for the wheel on ice) very well. I was all set to part with my cash... Unfortunately when we hooked up the trailer (with only half a load too) we found that while cruising on the highway at 60-70 mph that the front tires kept losing traction every time we hit a bit of slush or snow. Once they did the SH-AWD system would start to engage the rear wheels, but only after slipping first at these higher speeds. At highway speeds it really wants to be a front wheel drive. That was bad enough with the MDX providing a very "front wheel drive feel", and "surging" in and out of AWD, but after about 15 minutes of highway cruising with the SH-AWD kicking in over and over to keep the speed up, an SH-AWD over temperature warning popped up on the gauge cluster (and the temperature outside was something like -5°C too). Once this happened the system reverted to a fully front wheel drive vehicle and now it sucked totally at even trying to maintain speed in the no more than 1.5 inches of snow that fell that afternoon with the front tires spinning and losing traction constantly. I suppose it is possible this particular 2014 MDX was defective and it did not have snow tires, but I did find comments on online forums where other people experienced the same problem when towing in slippery conditions with their MDX too. In addition to the poor winter towing performance I was also concerned that we might end up burning out the SH-AWD clutches by towing in the winter so we decided against the MDX. Later, in essentially the same conditions, we tested a slightly older 2007 Lexus GX470 (ended up buying it too) with its old fashioned full time 4wd system, also equipped with all season SUV tires. For towing the trailer it was much more consistent than the MDX. If required you can lock the center differential, but even with it open, it worked great for towing. Also when the traction gets bad and unequal, the GX470 does a great job using the A-Trac system to transfer power to tires with grip (easily passing the same 3 wheel on ice 1 wheel on pavement tests that the MDX also passed, with ease). The GX470 doesn't have the very cool torque vectoring the MDX has and you can definitely feel the difference though. The GX470 does like to oversteer a bit if you push it, but it won't let you play too much before the computer kicks in and straightens you out (unless you disable the system). Another useful feature for towing that the GX470 has that the MDX doesn't is auto-leveling air suspension. No matter how much load the GX470 has in the rear or how heavy the trailer's tongue weighs, the air bags automatically inflate and bring the vehicle to a level stance. It also has adjustable damping for the shock absorbers so heavy loads can be stiffened up to provide a very stable ride. Ultimately the GX470 behaves more like a very luxurious, comfortable truck with an incredible sound system and a heavy duty, "torquey", low rpm engine, and a truck-like drivetrain that is also very capable off-road, while the MDX behaves more like a moderately luxurious, semi-sporty station wagon with a powerful, high revving engine and a light duty AWD system. As a people mover and daily driver I'd probably prefer the MDX, but for an all around utility vehicle that is also extremely luxurious and comfortable, especially for long distance highway cruising (with or without a trailer), the GX470 is tough to beat.
@mylifeisJDM5 жыл бұрын
Finally, a good video explaining between the two.
@DarthVaderTundra6 жыл бұрын
Great channel Ryan! I watch a lot of your reviews. Do you know if the new Honda Passport will come with the i-VTM4 tune like the Pilot or something closer to the Acura SH-AWD? I'm considering switching from my 5th gen Forester to the new Honda Passport. Thx.
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
It will probably be very much like the Pilot. Hopefully we'll get behind the wheel soon to confirm!
@Xmvw2X5 жыл бұрын
I recently switched from a 2015 Subaru Legacy 3.6R to 2017 Honda Ridgeline. I also own older Subarus with the classic 5sp manual with viscous center and rear and the 6sp STI manual (2004) with DCCD and mechanical diffs. I've autocrossed and rallycrossed for over a decade and very much value a good awd system. I've long enjoyed the Subaru approach. Symmetry and all-time alone goes a long way. The old open and viscous setups without ABS assist aren't great on uneven grip, but they're very good on even grip surfaces. The all-time and symmetry at least minimally means you always start with a good push from all 4 tires, even if power almost immediately shifts wonky after. The viscous setup does well enough in very low grip once heated, but you need to really romp on it first to get heat into them and make them effective. The STI 6sp and limited slip diff suite is a great setup and more so with modern ABS slip control to more effectively handle wheel spin (mainly when a tire is lifted or on very, very slick terrain). I'm still a huge fan of having mechanical limited slip diffs. There is no electronic system that feels as stable or reacts as fast as a true mechanical limited diff setup. There's always a distinct, planted feel, and instant function from a mechanical system that you will never get from any open diff system. Even high speed electronic systems have some amount of lag and lack that solid grip feel on uneven grip terrain. While the name of the game may be cost and long term reliability, I'll happily take mechanical lsds for reaction speed, and I'll happily pay cash to get it if available. I'm quite impressed by Honda's system. The choice of clutch pack and on-throttle vectoring has a noticeable improvement over the brake based control that Subaru uses. The Subaru has more delay in the resulting behavior that's always noticeable and always requiring awareness by the driver to anticipate the initial delay. The Honda system seems faster and is mostly seamless feeling and doesn't have that clear distinction of actuation of effect. The Honda system is fast enough to the point where I am generally seldom aware of wheel slip before traction control engages and a light's blinking on the dash. On the Subaru system, there is always enough wheel spin to be well aware of the slip before the ECU is aware and reaction happens. The open diff setup and delay makes the Subaru vehicle wander about a little more on poor surfaces than it really should. I generally ran with traction control disabled during winter in order to permanently "lock" the center diff. This both made straight line driving more stable by having the center always engaged, but it also introduced more rear bias and prevented front end wash out that always happened on the front end in low grip when initially applying throttle since it always started with strong front bias. Turning "off" traction control forced the bias more even, including right from a start, and allowed more wheel spin with less ABS intrusion. It was both more fun and more stable overall in winter conditions and on poor surfaces. It's just dumb to have to force the issue because the Subaru system isn't programmed that smart. The Honda system is noticeably more seamless and quick to function. However, there's harder interpretation of what's going on. Subaru's easy to read has its function is inherently simple and predictable. Honda's system is more hidden but seems more advanced and quick. I'm heading into my first winter with the system, so I am not all that familiar with it yet. I'll have a better understanding of the system after some fun on snow and ice. The drive modes are nice, and they surprisingly vary quite a bit between settings. Sand mode is fun with very aggressive throttle mapping, forced lower gears and high revs in lower gears, and what feels like a locked center and fixed bias diff. It's not dynamic in this mode, but it feels like it would be quite predictable on poor surfaces due the center diff not changing bias all over the place. You mentioned the i-VTM4 not oversteering like the SH-AWD. I do agree that the system feels to be programmed mild and neutral, even under heavy throttle. On-throttle, the understeer is tuned out, and the chassis feels very neutral, only with a tiny amount of oversteer (me with the Ridgeline at least) that requires a very slight reduction in steer angle as throttle is added. The system is very neutral overall though with a very tamed rear end. The Subaru system, is more rear biased and tail happy and good for a little winter drifting. This is especially so with traction control "off" and also helpful with a bigger rear sway bar to dial out some understeer. The Subaru system is fun and predictable but feels old and sluggish in reaction time and moving torque around via ABS braking. It's not bad, but laggy might be an appropriate term to describe it. It's largely a byproduct of open diffs and an ABS based system that has to read wheel speed data to make any decisions. The Honda system feels really dialed in, much faster in reaction (as far as I can tell so far, still waiting on snow/ice to really test it), and more sophisticated, but it's just tuned dead center. Anyone seeking real fun factor might lean towards the Acura side just to have that rear biased tuning. Any suspension tuning can also affect overall balance. I don't know what's available for reprogramming of the awd system. Aftermarket tuning of the system could be interesting if it comes into existence. Heck, you might just be able to flash the SH-AWD tune right into a Pilot or Ridgeline. I don't really know.
@SilverScarletSpider5 жыл бұрын
Acura MDX is low key a winter beast!!
@owaisakhtar79145 жыл бұрын
Please do a quick comparison between Acura, Lexus all-wheel drive systems against one of the top Germans. Audi or Mercedes Benz please. Thank you
@drivingsports5 жыл бұрын
We’re working on an AWD video about Mercedes 4Motion. Look for that in the coming month.
@shmoaeelshmoaeel83196 жыл бұрын
"loads of fun in the white stuff"
@bbbt80906 жыл бұрын
Great Video! SHAWD is hands down the best AWD. My MDX Hybrid is great to drive. I'd like to see a comparison against Acura, Audi, BMW and Subaru.
@BowmanOverland5 жыл бұрын
BBB T Subaru’s AWD is worlds ahead.
@donaldsawyer26184 жыл бұрын
Great video. Different approach rather than just showing the automobile. But please people Don't drive hard in the snow. Unless you are trained.
@paulk21744 жыл бұрын
Not on CRV or Rav4, but the Mitsubishi Outlander has a similar torque vectoring AWD/4WD system (S-AWC). Torque vectoring front and the RWD can be locked in so it can do AWD and real 4WD. Waaaay better for winter driving.
@212dems6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison between the two systems! Good information and really nice footages.
@MB-vd5dn6 жыл бұрын
Your voice is Golden & balanced. maximize it on many car and product reviews. #Best
@mrgold35912 жыл бұрын
I have a 19 MDX Sport Hybrid with rear twin electric motors. I would love to see how the MDX mechanical sh-awd compares to the MDX Sport Hybrid 3 electric motor system. The Sport Hybrid system used regen braking and tq vectoring on and off engine power. Very stable in the curves when the inside rear wheel regen brakes and the outer wheel tq vectors to help rotate the MDX Sport Hybrid along with having electronic dampers.
@DAhonda2476 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Could you please make a video explaining the differences between the VTM4 system in the 2012-2015 Honda Pilots vs. the iVTM4 system in the newer gen 2016-2019 Pilots and Ridgelines. My dad and I have been wondering the difference between his 2019 Pilot with iVTM4 and my 2012 Pilot with regular VTM4. Thanks in advance and hope you have a great one!!
@tonychau19835 жыл бұрын
The older system are slip and grip systens
@echo92485 жыл бұрын
Do you know anything about the older Honda AWD/4WD systems? The 2010 Crosstour says it is 4WD (even the badge on the back is 4WD), yet seems to act like AWD. It works beautifully in deep snow, but the badge and and experience don't match. Do you have an explanation? Thanks.
@rangerover06sc5 жыл бұрын
Its just marketing. It's probably just a haldex type automatic AWD system that is primarily fwd but can torque to the back by locking the front and rear axles together with a clutch pack. Ford uses pretty much the same thing and commonly calls it 4wd as well, even though it's not.
@tcjensen14 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows what they are talking and is willing to push a car. What are your thoughts on the Ridgeline’s programming vs the Pilot’s? Will it be more fun? Or equally lame in regards to any tail out cornering?
@drivingsports4 жыл бұрын
They are both pretty aggressive when switched to sand mode. I’ve never done both side-to-side but I think I recall the Ridgeline being more willing to slide the back out.
@IshtiaqAlam5 жыл бұрын
Great production, and very informative.
@pattyjay99996 жыл бұрын
Old AWD systems compared to newer systems I had a 02 Subaru WRX now I have a 92 Mitsubishi Galant VR4. Both AWD but they handle differently.
@hendrahendra6 жыл бұрын
Im a subaru guy but damn hondas sh-awd seems really capable but not many people know about it.
@alloysiusvoon85925 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the name of the introduction music.
@jonypopo5 жыл бұрын
My 2017 pilot rotates the rear just fine like the mdx in the video in the snow we have in canada. Really weird that it did not do it in the video, maybe he didn't put the gas pedal enough, you have to come in the corner slow and push it a lot for it to send you sideways. A bit normal, i dont think people would like the back end to kick like that when you drive normally. The stability control tries to stop the drift once you counter steer but you just have to remove it with the brake-button-handbrake-button-brake/handbrake-button thing and you rally everywhere in normal mode, other mode are for heavy off-road and are no fun. Really like the system, but the 15k miles rear diff oil change is big downside for people that drives normally.
@colinbny2 жыл бұрын
Never had fun driving in the snow until I got a 2021 tlx SH AWD. My car is low tot he ground and it doesn’t matter
@Fadic46 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video
@mess09656 жыл бұрын
Subaru AWD from the current Outback and equivalent Audi equivalent please.
@rondail56756 жыл бұрын
Great review and explanations. How does the new 2019 Mazda CX5 compare?
@Jedi_Luke3 жыл бұрын
Man I love Honda products. I still have fun with my 06 Pilot with VTM-4.
@jdmspiritturkey6 жыл бұрын
SH-AWD looks like S-AWC. If you can will you try the EclipseCross's system?
@torontovo2 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are always, awesome to watch.
@Chiroman5274 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Great Video - gets to the point on the SH -AWD. One of the reasons I bought a 2019 Acura MDX with Advance package.
@JulezWinnfield6 жыл бұрын
What types of tires were used on both vehicles? That definitely affects the results.
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
Both were using the all-seasons that were included with the vehicles.
@andreso3405 жыл бұрын
would have likes to see you do those test with traction off. I always turn it off in snow and gravel.
@mboiko5 жыл бұрын
Great video production and detail...nice job.
@pchou3 жыл бұрын
How does this compare with Mazda or is there any brand that drive similar to the sh awd?
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
Audi Quattro is the most similar.
@davidsteckley88465 жыл бұрын
The new ones kinda suck bc you cannot fully disable traction control, traction control off in the 07 MDX, she'll send 90% to the rear and drift in the snow.
@be_easy0015 жыл бұрын
Recently I’ve been driving two different AWD vehicles in heavy snow and ice in the mountains (2008 Toyota Highlander/2012 Honda Pilot) and I have to say the pilot takes the win hands down in heavy snow and ice. VTM just works, while the highlander wants to break traction constantly. The Highlander is more fun, but the Pilot just feels so much Safer.
@Ksavinon5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video SH AWD is the best.. I want to see a mud test.
@dmajumdar20596 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. Fantastic explanation.
@hieuhughesle-au98845 жыл бұрын
Very well executed!! Now we need to add the hybrid sh-awd 👌
@kvadra19 Жыл бұрын
SH-AWD прослужит компании хонда долгие годы)
@TimothyPengofLansing6 жыл бұрын
Question, I have a 18 crv awd, my dashboard monitor shows it’s constantly sending torque to the rear wheels, I have noticed that on dry, wet, snow alike, maybe it’s a somewhat different awd than Rav4’s? Could you help to clarify this? Thanks!
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
The CRV will send power to the back at low speeds pro-actively. But it has limitations. We’ll cover that in a future video.
@TimothyPengofLansing6 жыл бұрын
Driving Sports TV thanks, looking forward to that video
@wildbill23c5 жыл бұрын
The Rav4 does the same thing, they're all based on the same thing just named different in different makes and models to make it sound cooler. The Rav4 can also sense inclines and varies the output too...at least the 2017 one I drove would do that...and the Rav4 had an additional feature that you could lock it into a 50/50 torque split to get you going on slippery surfaces and in deep snow....most other versions lack that additional feature it seems, or you have to scroll through a ridiculous menu to select "Snow" mode.
@d.porter31425 жыл бұрын
How does the MDX SH-AWD system compare to the Buick Enclave twin clutch AWD system in regards to sending up to 100% power to a single wheel? I.e., with three wheels on rollers/ice/mud, the Enclave can transfer power to the wheel with traction and move forward. Can the SH-AWD torque vectoring do that, or is it more of a system to enhance cornering dynamics?
@jchow135 жыл бұрын
There's a video that proves it can do that already . Check out tfl channel.
@NCLme6 жыл бұрын
That makes Sh-Awd much more better for the TypeR if they do decide to add it later to the Civic lineup
@212dems6 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do it, but I don't think they will
@MidnightAspec6 жыл бұрын
It could conceivably make its way to an upcoming ILX 'Type S', seeing as SH-AWD is currently Acura only.
@212dems6 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightAspec That would be awesome too, maybe the same power train from the new RDX. 2.0l + 10AT + SH-AWD
@Zstray176 жыл бұрын
David Melo Yes!! I thought for sure they would do it with this new model. I would leave my BMW if they went AWD with the Accord.
@IaintTrynaGoOutLikeBIGnPAC5 жыл бұрын
Making the type R AWD would add alot of weight. The cars are much bigger now than the cars of the 90s and weigh a lot more. 20" wheels? C'mon Honda.
@benjaminjwilson6694 Жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see the Acura awd vs. Cadillac awd.
@dudedovahkiin38256 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know more about the Ford Focus RS mark 3 all wheel drive system
@edwinlam77404 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you do one for VW's Haldex and Audi's Quattro?
@RealWorldCarReviews6 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very interesting difference in the systems.
@MrJt34516 жыл бұрын
can you do the new toyota rav 2019 without the hybrid thank you
@1MarkKeller5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm sold on the MDX!
@rodneychan6 жыл бұрын
How does SH-AWD compare to Quattro?
@GGMan6 жыл бұрын
Re-active Quattro - SH-AWD better Pro-Active Quattro - SH-AWD about the same I would say due to both being able to supply power to each wheel
@zacharyparis5 жыл бұрын
quattro uses braking to control wheel speed. it’s not torque vectoring.
@PaulNaylor36 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Can you reach out to Honda to share details about the 2017+ CR-V AWD system? Honda advertised it as a redesign with the current generation. I own a 2017 CR-V AWD and the display that shows power distribution indicates that all 4 wheels receive power most of the time. Thank you.
@PNW_Sportbike_Life4 жыл бұрын
My Ridge with VTM4 works pretty damn good.
@apthashooter8606 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone realizes that Honda was the first wit this system and the other major car companies copied them. Audi and bmw and Mercedes didn’t come out with true torque vectoring till a couple of years ago. That why they call the NSX the baby 918. Porsche copied Honda also. Love my Honda/Acura’s
@CalisRemedy6 жыл бұрын
AP Tha Shooter Mercedes Benz and BMW pretty copied the Acura ZDX with X6, X4, GLE Coupe & GLC Coupe.
@rickyho21405 жыл бұрын
Heard of AYC?
@bMPtuning015 жыл бұрын
Honda just changed the game
@minxlabrada4 ай бұрын
Was wondering why my Ridgeline handled so well. I call it the Rally Truck. I get the rear out all the time. Best on dirt on Sand & Sport modes. Not sure my Honda doesn't have a working WRC or ARA rally team.
@jasonguy65724 жыл бұрын
I wanna know more about the old grand cherokee quadra-drive systems
@samle76783 жыл бұрын
Any hope for shawd system in the new odyssey? Keep my fingers crossed 🤞
@drivingsports3 жыл бұрын
🤷🏻♂️
@camgere5 жыл бұрын
So I suppose if you drive on road in Southern California all year, either system will get you Burning Man or Coachella (and back).
@andreasm28826 жыл бұрын
Great video once again and after watching it a second time I'm saying to myself you look like you're up at Snoqualmie? Anyways did you happen to play with the sand mode on the pilot and if so did you feel like that that would put more power to the rear wheels and make it more fun to drive in the loose stuff?
@drivingsports6 жыл бұрын
Great idea - next time! And yes, the snow portions were around Snoqualmie.
@GGMan6 жыл бұрын
Subaru for price but be nice to give an example of Audi Quattro - both versions (the re-active & pro-active Quattro systems)!
@CRYFFX5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on the Quattro system? 2017 or above Q7 and other Audi models