Adalo vs FlutterFlow | No Code App Builder

[@docwilliams]

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[@aznarul]

Is there a way to modify my app in Adalo once is published on the app stores? Like visual or functional updates?

[@docwilliams]

Great question- are you asking about adding functionality? Depending on what you're trying to do and pushing the changes. For further details, Adalo has a community board to ask for more details. For more details I would reach out to- [e-mail]

[@aznarul]

@@docwilliams wow thanks for the quick response! I’m totally new on this app thing but i think i might have a good idea for developing so your video is very useful, tysm

[@docwilliams]

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[@FOOTSTEPS_OF_A_KING]

Hey Doc, Ty for the info. My question is should i start a LLC and trademark before i start building?

[@docwilliams]

@@FOOTSTEPS_OF_A_KING great question! It depends but to start building it's not necessary

[@FOOTSTEPS_OF_A_KING]

@@docwilliams TY for the reply... But yeah i would like to start my app and launch asap and build partnerships with other major companies. Should i just do the LLC and trademark to protect my brand?

[@docwilliams]

@@FOOTSTEPS_OF_A_KING sure! If you feel more comfortable doing that. Make sure you do that but make sure you're keeping on schedule with the development.

[@FOOTSTEPS_OF_A_KING]

@@docwilliams cool thanks!

[@immigrationlawofficeofserg2232]

In a Map Component in Adalo, how can I filter down the markers displayed to a given radius of the Current Device Location? I already created a "Markers" collection with a Location property to hold all of the markers. I just need to know how I can filter them by miles, just like in a List Component. Thank you!

[@JennyLee-ir5gj]

great overview. I am trying out Adalo now...I have no experience with no-code builders. Adalo allows me to spin up ideas really fast. Later on I might try out Flutterflow once I get better with building apps!

[@docwilliams]

Great to hear! Yes Adalo is a great beginner platform! Let me know how it goes on your adventure!

[@isabellamagazine]

Hey Doc we are looking to schedule calendar discussions within our teams and clients. Do any of these provide scheduling live webcam conversations?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! It could be possible with FlutterFlow with an integration with another third party platform like daily.co. But it depends on the exact functionality you'll looking for but it could be done with those two platforms to get started. Hope that helps take care!

[@agibjames]

I personally love Adalo because it’s basically plug and play, as you said. Also, there is a built in database so you don’t need to do external setup with databases. (Google Sheets, Backendless, Firebase) Great Video btw!

[@docwilliams]

Hey James! Thanks for the support! Yup agreed 🔥🔥🔥

[@agibjames]

@@docwilliams np!! :)

[@opensourcesabout8128]

Is there any opensource which has the same ability?

[@gottafitbrasil2889]

Very good content, Doc! The best I’ve seen ‘till now! Thanks from Brazil!

[@docwilliams]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@super0chick]

rhank you for your video. I'm trying out Adalo right now. wanted to ask is if there is a feature in Adalo which will allow save input data.

[@docwilliams]

Hey great question! I would prob need to know more information to make sure I understand more fully but I don't see this being a problem at all. I would need you to explain a scenario or step by step but I don't think this is a problem.

[@modextywyt8581]

Hi Doc, This is a great content you’ve got. Please I need an app that can trigger camera to get a picture on a click and a video on a press and hold. Then upload the content for the admin with time and location it’s taken. Then display a description form for any additional information about the content while uploading. It will equally come with a pre registration form. Based on this specification, what would you advise?

[@docwilliams]

Hey glad to help! Depends on your current skill level but the functionality you're describing could be done with FlutterFlow. You might need a bit of custom code but the platform to start would be FlutterFlow. Hope that helps take care!

[@FREDNAJAH]

thanks, it seems like adalo is for people who don't want to learn anything about apps and FlutterFlow is for people who want to be knowledgeable about what they are going to create.

[@docwilliams]

Yeah I can see that. Also a lot people choose Adalo if they need to build fast and don't have time to learn a platform with a steeper learning curve but it does limit what you can do for sure.

[@jalsomina1]

Hi Doc, really great videos and the whole playlist for no-code app tools is amazingly informative. I have a question: for telehealth where data security and encryption is crucial to fulfill the regulations on digital healthcare, what would be a suitable tool? Thanks a lot

[@docwilliams]

Hey Yasmine glad you're liking the content! Great question this depends on the functionality you need for telehealth but it has to do with the database security and the option of using a third party database and security and if they have it with the database security HIPAA compliant. For example some hospitals or healthcase agencies have used Glide Apps for their platform- www.glideapps.com/ For more details on their security you can find it here- docs.glideapps.com/all/courses/security-center But to pick a third party data to hold the user data you can also checkout Xano that links into a number of platforms like Adalo, AppGyver etc. Hope that helps take care!

[@jalsomina1]

@@docwilliams perfect, many thanks

[@MikeOnlineable]

great overviews! where can i find a list of no code platforms that allow you to download the code?

[@docwilliams]

Glad to help! Depends on the exact type of app your trying to build but there are four that standout- FlutterFlow Teta UI Bakery Supernova

[@MikeOnlineable]

@@docwilliams thanks, I start to like flutterflow a lot. I usually tend to not use google cloud, but I likely make an exception. Downloading code is such value for startups.

[@MikeOnlineable]

@@docwilliams one other question, have you seen Thinkwise? As a platform? My company just started a pilot project, seems pretty cool too.

[@ArnoldRowntreeTeachesFusion360]

Hi Doc, I'm looking for an easy way to get started for some pretty standard purposes so I think I'm already sold on Adalo. I've got a lot to learn about other parts of my new business and so it'll need to be simple for this ol' dawg. A booking function for tuition appointments might be something I can use soonish and then I can see the coaching service template being useful when I have that product available. If it starts to look really valuable and I need more control and or features I reckon that I can stretch myself and learn another platform.

[@docwilliams]

Love it! Yeah Adalo might be perfect for what you're looking for.

[@ebazar1]

Hi doc ive been watching your videos and i was looking to build something like Turo app but not for cars. what do u think is best platform with built in turo like templates. im a total newbie in app building but have been working with it related stuff in the past so am not averse to software and technology

[@docwilliams]

Hey Noel great question! Depends if you're trying to validate your idea or if you have traction and trying to scale with a specific platform. For validating a marketplace I would go with Softr- www.softr.io/?via=doc If I had traction and needed to streamline and scale I would take a look at Sharetribe- www.sharetribe.com/?rfsn=5288964.5990a1 Hope that helps take care! Sidenote: both links are my affiliate links.

[@tejash.g7216]

Hi Doc, i am looking to build an app for e-card like flyers/busniess card etc so which one would you recommand

[@docwilliams]

Hey thanks for watching! It all depends on the functionality you need. There are many different options but it's important to examine first if it offers the features you absolutely need.

[@anepsaaidhustle9093]

Hi Doc! Glad to find this video after a year you published it. haha Which one do better work for me to build travel services marketplace? Bubble, Adalo or Flutterflow? The module needs: - booking platform (book, cancel and postpone) - services providers can create, edit, publish listing - shareable listing link - review and rating - weather, payment gateway, calendar - push to playstore, app store and huawei store. I am not a developer or computer science background. A non technical founder. The learning curve is steep for me but i'm willing to make the idea turn to reality. We already have group of users waiting for this solution. i have try both bubble and flutterflow but still not confident to choose because i can't simply left out fast without customize and scale. TQ in advance

[@docwilliams]

Hey great question! Out of the three- i would go with FlutterFlow. If I was picking the best platform for a marketplace I would go with Sharetribe- www.sharetribe.com/?rfsn=5288964.5990a1 (affiliate link) Hope that helps!

[@anepsaaidhustle9093]

@@docwilliams Thank you Doc! you really are a doctor. it's working!

[@oscarkhoza7852]

Which of these platforms would you recommend for a weather app? weather app that will include other complicated things I have not even thought of in the future.

[@docwilliams]

Hey Oscar! Great question! I would go with FlutterFlow.

[@yadude101]

Can you buy like 1 month of membership from Fluterflow or Adalo, design an app, download the code, and then launch the app and then stop the membership? or by launching the app would you have to keep paying a membership fee because you're still using the backend for the app? thnx

[@docwilliams]

Great question! It’s possible to do that with FlutterFlow but remember if you need to edit anything you wouldn’t be able to because you’re just downloading the code you won’t access to the editor any longer.

[@yi6]

Hi I want to build an app that let you memorize a book, what I mean is" If a book have like 200 pages and the user memorize a page everyday, it will take him 200 days, but of course he will forget the first pages, so I want the app to tell the user which page he have to memorize and which page he have to read again so he could remember it" I know it seems complex, but if I could build it, which platform should I use? Thanks.

[@EUI]

Hi Dear i wanna build on demand services app for ios and android , where users can book for any service they need such as AC cleaning , House Cleaning , Plumbing , Car wash , ETC.... , so there will be customer interface and service provider interface , its similar to food delivery app almost , which platform you advice and thanks

[@docwilliams]

Hey! That sounds like a marketplace type of app. If it can be a web app I would go with Sharetribe. If you're interested they have a free trial to try it out. www.sharetribe.com/?rfsn=5288964.5990a1 (affiliate link) Hope that helps take care!

[@Doriath85]

Hey Doc, thanks for a great review. I'm looking to build an app and is trying to figure out whether I can use one of these no code app builders to accomplish this. One of the main features that I have a hard time wrapping my head around is that I need to tap into access rights and parental control functionality. Basically I would like to be able to grant and revoke access to apps installed on the phone for a limited amount of time. Do you know if this would be possible to accomplish?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Jacob! Great question. Thinking about it I'm not sure which platform could possibly do that. If it is possible with a no code/ low code platform I would say FlutterFlow but I would reach out to their team. That is a very interesting use case. If I hear anything further about the possibilities I'll def update this and let you know!

[@Doriath85]

@@docwilliams Thanks Doc for reply! Yeah I'll have to investigate further, not even sure even by code what kind of api that could be used. 😶‍🌫

[@officialpnath]

Hello, please I'll like know how many apps I can build with a single subscription on flutterflow?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! I believe one app for reach plan. That's what I'm thinking as I'm looking over at their pricing. flutterflow.io/pricing.html I would reach out to their support for an official answer though. Hope that helps!

[@okojiephilip1883]

Hi Doc! Great videos you've got here. So I'm looking at building an app with a "reminder" functionality. Which app builder would be suitable between Adalo and Flutterflow?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Okojie glad you're liking the content! This really depends on the functionality of the reminders. For example, is the user simply putting in a date and time to reminded? Does it need to send the user a text message, email etc. For the most part something like that can be done with Adalo and Dynamic Actions. FlutterFlow would be for more advanced actions and would take some lowcode skills to be able to do that.

[@okojiephilip1883]

@@docwilliams Thanks Doc. I have started my tutorials on Flutterflow. I'm still trying to wireframe my process but will most definitely use Flutterflow. I love their UI and I'd like to delve into it's advanced actions.

[@docwilliams]

@@okojiephilip1883 goodtimes! Keep me posted on your progress!

[@ladyt2588]

Is the Adalo code export usable? HTML CSS JS? Or is it 0 and 1s?

[@docwilliams]

Hey great quesiton! No not at this time. For more information feel free to reach to support to Adalo for more details. Hope all goes well for your project and app!

[@fzlbajada5852]

Hi doc! I was wondering if i would make a POS or Inventory Management type kind of app, with around 100,000 users, which would you suggest?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! Depends on the exact functionality you need. Regarding the 100K users you can use Flutterflow, Glide apps or possibly Softr but it really depends on the every day actions for the users. Hope that helps! Feel free to give more details in the comments.

[@siarafabbri2073]

Hi Doc. I want to create a fitness app where users can have profiles, and create custom workouts or choose from a range of workouts, as well as view coach profiles and pay for tailored coach training plans. I do have some coding experience, but also want to bring this app to market quickly and see these as a good option. My biggest thing is having a the option to have a lot of customizability in creating the app - allow users to upload photos, comment on workouts, message other users or coaches, etc. It seems like the main no-code mobile app building options are: Adalo, Flutterflow, Appgyver, and Bubble. I am not sure which of these will be the best suited, but want to start with the correct one and not waist time.

[@siarafabbri2073]

Also the capability for data visualization, so graphs showing PBs in certain workouts over time, and calenders showing days where workouts happened, etc. Thanks :)

[@docwilliams]

Siara great question! For the biggest ways to customize I would go with Bubble or Flutterflow. For support and community I would go with Bubble and go through the Airdev bootcamp. That would be my choice IF I wanted to learn a platform that can scale. If I was focused on moving fast and scaling my business I would be looking at Trainerize www.trainerize.com/ or perhaps True coach truecoach.co/ Depends if you want to build it from scratch or white label it for your business. Hope that helps take care!

[@docwilliams]

Gotcha no problem! If I'm building from scratch- Bubble. If I'm going to build a white labeled solution with the most amount of integrations focused on fitness I would go with Trainerize. Hope that helps! Take care!

[@siarafabbri2073]

@@docwilliams Okay thanks for the reply! :) From what I can tell, trainerize seems suited toward a single coach or group of coaches looking for a platform to reach their clients. This is not really what I want to do, I want to create an app that people can use to log their training each day, by either making custom workouts they log or choosing from a library of workouts I will create, and at the same time coaches can get verified, make profiles, and get business from the users of the app, and use the app to give people their training plans. This I aimed at fully being a mobile app, so that was part of my hesitancy with Bubble, because it seems like if I convert the bubble web app the app wont be able to be used offline and potentially features like gps and uploading photos could be difficult. Do you have any thoughts given this is purely to be a mobile app?

[@kcconley5834]

Doc Thankyou for increasing my understanding as I get into this world. Question either seams to have outgoing connectors (api,html,css) in your opinion which platform would be best to accomplish many outgoing tasks to trigger warnings or actions on other devices? Leaning toward flutter flow now

[@docwilliams]

Hey glad to help! Yes would be leaning towards FlutterFlow for your project.

[@josephkota]

Hey doc, if I am to make a board game, which one these would be the best? BTW, I'm a complete beginner to this. Kindly suggest.

[@docwilliams]

Hey Jospeh great question! Depends on the functionality and movement for the board game. But in general I would go with a platform that is meant for game design, Buildbox- signup.buildbox.com/

[@dario65886]

Hi Doc, thank you for your videos. I think speed is a big issue with these App Builders. I made an app in Adalo with its internal database. A collection with 250 records (1 string) was already enough that my app is basically unusable. I tried with Xano etc. but I need the custom filtering. What do you think regarding speed? Would flutterflow be a better option with its firebase integration?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Dario great point! I have seen a marked improvement in speed with FlutterFlow but it comes down to the exact functionally you need in your app. The FlutterFlow team is super helpful and can answer more questions about speed if you reach out to them. Hope that helps! Take care!

[@uche-a1357]

Hi Doc. Thank you for your great videos. We are looking to build an ecommerce business in which we provide for each city, a group of service providers. Each service provider to have a mini-web pages with live slides showing their services and prices. A customer can selects a service provider and checks off list of services they need into their shopping cart, pays and order will be serviced. Can you tell which of the no code app builders is good enough to serve the purpose and which you'd recommend. Thank you

[@docwilliams]

Hey thank you for the question! I think I just saw the email you sent me. If that's so we sent a follow-up email last week. But not this is a quick summary to consider- Shopify would be the platform I would select Depending on how you're trying to expand the functionality Sharetribe Go or Flex might also be a great option. If want more help feel free to book a paid consulting call here: bookme.name/brandfactoryinc/lite/tech-consult Take care and hope that helps!

[@uche-a1357]

@@docwilliams Thanks a lot for your response and suggestions. We'll actually be competing with Shopify as we plan to create an online marketplace for vendors. The last couple of days, Bubble has been looking interesting to me; I understand there's a steep learning curve, but the customization and flexibility I hear it offers sound very attractive to me. Ability to craft and create the apps the way I have it in the head is very appealing for strategy and implementation. And I also understand Bubble has vast amount of tools and insane community size. Do you think, if one is able to overcome the learning curve problem, that Bubble has the tools to support ecommerce apps, Shopping/Online Marketplace and Delivery apps?

[@ckwaiutube]

will it affect my delivered to client app if i cancelled Adalo or Bubble etc paid plan after i stop pay?

[@docwilliams]

Hey CK great question! Are you asking if you miss a payment? Or are asking if you want to stop paying altogether? Message Adalo’s support regarding their policy of payments, transferring apps and ownership of apps in accounts.

[@ckwaiutube]

@@docwilliams let's say i created an app for my client with paid plan, after maybe i don't have enuf client to generate income then i decided to stop my paid plan, will it affect client app function or maybe my client app is not usable anymore? Thanks for your response 👍👍👍

[@zenmusic3429]

Do the apps still work if one decides to cancel the $50 dollar a month subscription plan with Adalo since the data of the app is stored on their platform or does one have to continually pay the monthly subscription to keep the apps working?

[@docwilliams]

Depends on the platform Flutterflow you can take your code if you decide to leave. Look into the plan that allows you to export. Take care!

[@harishyadav5837]

Great video. I have a question, Do other no code platforms offer the feather like flutterflow to download the code?

[@docwilliams]

Thanks Harish! Glad you’re liking the content! It’s pretty rare for a no code platform to offer that feature. There are a few like UI Bakery and Clutch.io but for the most part not too many.

[@harishyadav5837]

@@docwilliams thanks, can make a full videos on FlutterFlow? Maybe a brief summary of how to work through it?

[@AngeloMcCaw]

Webflow you can download the code

[@lilyinthewater161]

Draftbit does. It’s expensive but worth it

[@fouzibelaliadouma]

Great video Doc. Thank you. I am wondering about exporting code from flutterflow projects, can we use the exported code indépendantly from flutterflow ? Like using the code in android studio and let a developper customize other functionalities ?

[@docwilliams]

Hey great question! I believe so for example their site states- View the generated code in your browser, copy and paste it to your editor, download and run in your emulator. Let me verify and get back to you asap.

[@BusinessHugs]

yes, this is basically the point of their github integration. you push the code out to a github project branch, then merge the branch with your customizations.

[@fouzibelaliadouma]

@@BusinessHugs thank you guys for your answer. Do you think we can do the opposite too ? I mean if I already have a projust (half realised), can I import it to flutterflow to keep going faster in the development. Am asking about this cause there are some good templates out there. It woul be cool if we can build on and customize them inside this tool.

[@ladyt2588]

Can you export the Adalo code in html css js?

[@docwilliams]

Hey great qestion! Not at this time. To find out if any of the platforms can export code google platform or check out the forum. forum.adalo.com/t/how-to-export-the-source-code-of-mobile-app/890

[@unaialapont5500]

Hi Doc! I want to build an MVP app for inventory management using RFID. This would require API integrations with an external database. Which no-code builder should I use? Thank you so much for your help and keep it up!

[@anlbuyuktepe3939]

Are both of them fully responsive? And I'd like to have an online ordering app like Delivery Hero, Could I be able to create something like that app on one of both?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Anil great question! Both are responsive. I don't know too much about Delivery Hero I just did a quick search about the company. This concept seems feasible with FlutterFlow. It only depends if you testing your idea and at the MVP level or looking to scale. Hope that helps take care!

[@anlbuyuktepe3939]

@@docwilliams Thank you for answer :)

[@motivationmoneywellness]

I'm absolutely new to all this. I'm a beginner. If you wanted to build a unique dating app, what would you use as a beginner?

[@docwilliams]

Hey great to have you here! This is a great place to start. To answer your question, it depends on a few things. For example, what functionality do you need for your dating app? What is the goal of your app? That's going to help you determine what the limitations and features you can use depending on the platform you choose.

[@AllenAdrianTompkins]

How about privacy I don't want to have my lessons published as a coach and I want to be able to control them like turn them off and on when I am instructing or not instructing and who has all the rights copyright Pat and writes content rights?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Allen great question! That would involve the conditions you put in the app for the functionality of controlling the content. Regarding copyright, terms of services I would reach out to get help with legal counsel on a number of sites like legal zoom or lawyers that have had experience with SAAS companies. The platforms themselves such as Adalo or Flutterflow don't own your content if you publish it using their platforms but I would read over their terms of service using their platforms. Hope that helps take care!

[@gunix28]

What if I am a Product Designer, and I want to use my own workflow, plus assets?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Anthony that's a great question! That depends on a few things. Depends on the functionality of your app you're looking for and what platform you use for design. For example, if you use Figma you might want to consider Bravo Studio www.bravostudio.app/ Depends on your current workflow of what platform you're using and what type of assets are you referring to? Hope that helps!

[@gunix28]

The Figma assets.

[@docwilliams]

@@gunix28 gotcha sounds like I would look into Bravo Studios I did a video a few montsh ago explaining more about the platform here- kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6S4kHh7mr-hoaM

[@nidzho246]

I am looking for a good platform to be able for me to make a modern and smooth app for arranging car wash appointments. So adding pictures for car sizes, pricing, calender aswell as registration proces. Also, do I have to pay every month while my app is on Google play to Adalo if I want to have it running? P. S. I just found your channel and only I can say is good work mate, keep it up. Only thing for improvement if you will, you can make your picture more curved or even circular to be better for an eye in a vid. Anyways, good work.

[@docwilliams]

Hey thanks for stopping at the channel! To use Adalo, yes you’ll have to pay that charge monthly. This shld be possible with Adalo what you’re looking for. Keep in mind to scale I would prob go with Adalo but FlutterFlow I would use if it was going to scale.

[@saklainjawed8132]

What if you only want to develop an app and then not wanting to pay , in that case what should we do ?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! If you’re going that path looking into FlutterFlow would be path you want to explore for that type of project.

[@saklainjawed8132]

@@docwilliams thanks 😊

[@docwilliams]

@@saklainjawed8132 no problem! Keep me posted on your progress! Take care!

[@Business_101]

Great video - thank you! If I use FlutterFlow, how can I protect my code and app? For example, do I have an option to add a developer that can not download the app we are developing?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! I recommend reaching out to their team and support for details on that.

[@tablebase6135]

Great video. What are the other 5 platforms which allows code export?

[@docwilliams]

Hey thanks! The list includes Clutch.io, UI Bakery and Supernova.io. There are other but depends on the features you need etc. Those would be main choices at the moment.

[@GEDEONCHARLES]

Hello Doc Do you think I can build a fundraising app on Adalo Please?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Tayino great question! This really depends on the functionality you need in your app. Are you looking for it to connect to certain banks and need to connect it with APIs? Do you need money to be held in escrow? If you have those features planned out then you can find out if it is a good fit you by looking at the Adalo documentation. Hope that helps! help.adalo.com/integrations/the-adalo-api

[@IspyrGameDev]

Hiya Doc, what alternative app builder would you say is the closest to Adalo workflow/feature wise? Things like Magic Text and Relationships in Adalo are amazing

[@docwilliams]

Hey good question! Before I can give an answer I would ask what is Adalo lacking that is making you want to go to another platform?

[@IspyrGameDev]

​@@docwilliams yes makes sense, honestly having a blast in Adalo, some weaker areas are text editing/formatting larger type, animations aside from Lottie, so smaller things that can be updated overtime. The biggest thing that made me ask is customer service and some unsurety about the future of it. I'm the type of person that like to have options, plan for the worse type thing :) But yes Adalo gave me the ability to make an app within. a month of never really trying to make an app in the past.

[@docwilliams]

Gotcha. Honestly for what Adalo does and how simple they make it you really don’t have another quiet like that platform in the space. I’m a big fan of Softr and Glide but they can be used for very different use cases so unless it’s for a specific feature Adalo is in a very unique spot. It does still have weaknesses but all platforms do and it’s learning curve is pretty low compared to the next tier of platforms I recommend.

[@docwilliams]

Also a quick tip on support- if you’re on twitter message them directly and they usually answer questions pretty fast.

[@IspyrGameDev]

@@docwilliams Great to know! THx appreciate it. And yeah the workflow in Adalo is very unique.

[@layth3953]

Thank you for the video. I have been working on building apps on Adalo for 2 months and it is easy but there are a lot of limitations and there are a lot of futures that you can't build with it and some features you can make are really poor as I saw. And the biggest problem is the source code!! You build your app and you don't have the code and you MUST stay with them! Also I read in their forum that the service is slow and in the last days the server was down! And because of that I lost the motivation because I don't want to burn my app idea then fail. That's why I started searching for another platform and I just found flutterflow today and from what I see it is much better because you can take your code and go with any other platform as I understood. But I still don't know if I can stay with them and use another hosting service other than Firebase, do you have an answer for this question?

[@docwilliams]

Hey great question! Pretty sure you can use a DB other than firebase but I would reach out to Flutterflow's support for details. Hope all goes well on your journey!

[@nicholaswright9197]

I want Backendless to buy Adalo! Then they can just have more tiers for when your databases get too big.

[@aaroninamerica5822]

I'm not for sure what type of app it is I'm creating but it's something like a P2P payment system, something like cash app, but allows people to use other payment apps to make payments. I have no code experience so this was helpful, but at the same time my mind is set on expanding. I really like Adalo because of the speed and layout, but concerned I won't be able to take my app out of their system when the app starts to grow.

[@docwilliams]

Yeah it is important to make sure that there is room to scale in your app model and your business design. I recommend validating your service first and then go from there, as that will help you to see what functionality you really need in an app. Let me know how it goes!

[@junkurera1651]

hey doc, im trying to make a workout app. when a user registers, i want to giv them a quiz. and then based on the results i want a specific plan assigned to them. so basically if conditions. can i do this in adalo? which platform wud u say is the best for somethng like this?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Jun great question! Yes you can do that with Adalo. How are you with editing visibility rules. This will just depends on how complexity you need but yes I would plan it out first but then use it. To find out more check out Changing a Component's Visibility: help.adalo.com/component-basics/changing-a-components-visibility Keep me posted on your progress! Take care!

[@docwilliams]

Out of two options I would go with Adalo. If I had to pick my preferred platform for this entire process I would be inclined to use Glide Apps if I had a large user base or planned to expand with this.

[@junkurera1651]

@@docwilliams can i use use if conditions and put plans for my users using glide apps? thank u btw for the reply greatly appreciate it.

[@bzdezanka]

Thanks for our video. My app is a tool to find the best freelancers acording to the clients location with filteres, review and inside messages. Wondering if Flutter will cover big app like this, or should I search for developer?

[@docwilliams]

Hey Ewa great question! That can be done with FlutterFlow. Depends on your current skill level if you would need a tutor or outsourcing with a FlutterFlow expert but yes that's possible. Hope that helps take care!

[@edwinvermaas]

Looking for a Adalo alternative because of the new price model

[@docwilliams]

Gotcha! Thanks for letting us know! I'm hearing a lot about the pricing for Adalo lately. Might do an update video about it...

[@rafeeque-mavoor]

Hi Doc, Do we have to keep paying the subscription fee TO FLUTTERFLOW after publishing the app to playstore?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! Depends if you're exporting your code and using it not on their platform anymore. If you export no, but also lose using all of flutterflow's features. If you stay on flutterflow, you have to continue to pay a subscription.

[@andrewdicharry1438]

Which of these app builders would you say is the most customizable and scalable? I'm willing to go up a steeper learning curve if it means I'll ultimately have more control with sustainable growth.

[@docwilliams]

Hey Andrew great question! This really depends on your use case- what are you trying to create?

[@andrewdicharry1438]

@@docwilliams An advanced to-do list app

[@docwilliams]

@@andrewdicharry1438 depends what those advanced features might be but I would go with Bubble or AppGyver. Let me know if you have more questions!

[@andrewdicharry1438]

@@docwilliams I've been using FlutterFlow and so far it seems to give me most of the control I'd want, but with a little bit of a learning curve as a designer. Elements aren't exactly drag and drop and move where you want. You have to work within columns and rows and do a lot of tweaking on the properties panel. But after getting the hang of it, it gets easier. I'm working with a developer, and the download code feature is what sold us.

[@kirsty.design]

Hi Doc, Thanks for your detailed overview of the two builders - you have reassured me that Adalo is probably the better direction and one which I have started in. I was wondering if you could advise me on if adalo is good for content-based apps E.g I would like my members to watch videos and view content in a progress-style education platform. ( watching fitness workout clips ) I am new to Adalo and just a bit concerned about where to store the content even if I use the £200 a month package is storage an issue? Thanks Kirsty

[@docwilliams]

Hey Kristy thanks for reaching out! Adalo would be your best bet and the £200 a month package would be enough but depends on the resolution of your videos because that would change how many videos based the storage limits. But I notice you're using this for a progress-style education platform. Is there a reason you do not want to go with a Learning Management System (LMS) like Podia or Teachable?

[@docwilliams]

Those platforms are built for that type of content.

[@paulfarquarson7615]

Flutter flow is miles ahead

[@certiik8981]

Thanks for the video Doc. I have an idea for an app that limits unproductivity and toxic habits for people. I would love to start small and market it to get much larger. What platform would you recommend? I was learning software development before i find out about apps like adalo, flutterflow etc.

[@docwilliams]

Hey great question! That depends on the functionality of what you want the app to do to cue the user and remind them to change their behavior. For example is it reminding them they can only have 15 minutes on a specific website? Is it a text message every 10 minute sent to their phone during their working hours? Based on the behavior you want would determine what tool would be best. In general prob something like bubble or bildr could work. Hope that helps take care!

[@Dorian_Barber]

Wix Branded App?

[@docwilliams]

Depends on your needs. What are you building?

[@wareintheworldrv9108]

Im NOT a coder, but I do have a great idea for an app. I really down want to learn one platform to test an MVP and they learn another platform to scale on. Is there one platform that I can focus on that will scale to 100,000 users and still allow me to publish to both app stores? Thanks for the help. Great video BTW.

[@docwilliams]

Glad to help! if I'm looking for that kind of scale I would go for Bubble- bubble.io/ To findo out more info you can find it here- canvas.airdev.co/bootcamp Hope all goes well and keep me posted!

[@docwilliams]

If you want to know more about choosing a no-code app, check out this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLfLZisr0-a4Q756NBP9jWhKuWM_sidIX2

[@kristopherleslie8343]

Do you mind sharing the 5 apps that do export code

[@docwilliams]

@@kristopherleslie8343 great question! This really depends on the type of app and the exact thing you need to export. For example Webflow you can export the export HTML/CSS for paid accounts. UI Bakery an export the project uibakery.io/. SuperNova does the same but all of these different platforms are very different so depends on the app type and the functionality you're looking for. There are a few others hope that makes sense! Hope that helps! ANd let me know if you have any other questions. Take care!

[@deepdude4719]

Thank you for this.

[@docwilliams]

Any time! Thanks for stopping by

[@MusiceroWarehouse]

does flutterflow get percentage commission on in-app sales?

[@docwilliams]

Great question! Looking at their pricing model I don't believe so- flutterflow.io/pricing.html But I would reach out to the team via Twitter or LinkedIn to confirm.

[@MusiceroWarehouse]

Thanks @@docwilliams, will do, just came from website (drag and drop) building, shopify do get commissions which can be a significant, thus the question. Just learned about flutterflow and I really hope there's none (since payment gateways will surely have). Anyway, Thank you so much Doc, awesome content!

[@andymiller510]

I need an endless chat feature or lazy loading feature. A way to load messages smoothly even if users have 1,000 of messages

[@sxt8]

Hi Doc, I've discovered your channel and it's pretty awesome. We're looking for the best option for our MVP. We're working on a fitness app so we need an app builder that handles videos (fullscreen, player, go backward and forward, airplay...). We were looking closely at Adalo and Flutterflow. Which app builder would you recommend for that purpose? Thanks

[@docwilliams]

Hey welcome and glad you're liking the content! Great question this depends on your skill level using no code tools. Flutterflow has more power but the learning curve is a lot higher than Adalo. If I was just starting out in No Code and making a MVP I would go with Adalo or Glide Apps. Because you're going with a fitness app is there a reason you didn't go with something like Trainerize www.trainerize.com/ or True Coach?

[@sxt8]

@@docwilliams First thanks for your answer and your recommendations. We have tried a bunch of app builders some specialize some not. We are taking a different approach which doesn't allow us to use on shelf solution. I'll be glad to exchange more with you if you're interested. Cheers

[@andrewmoryakov7556]

Hello! thanks for your experience. did you manage to find a worthy solution for your tasks?

[@NedStarkZA]

Doc, where were you earlier in my academic career?

[@docwilliams]

hahahah sorry! Glad you're here now. Let me know if you have any questions, take care!

[@RikHaanen]

Flutter price does not seem to include tye Firebase cost, while adalo seems to have included the backend cost.

[@docwilliams]

Great point! It really depends on the amount of data and what sources you’re using. For Adalo some use Xano which will make you at a specific tier. For Flutterflow you can use Forebase which has a free tier which a lot of mvps barely pay anything (if it is set up correctly) and really depends on the use case. Or you could use Supabase which is more of a set price and won’t have tomworry about a lot of factors like firebase. What are you currently building?

[@RikHaanen]

@docwilliams Thanks for your quick reply. I built an app to check for ground water levels using FireBase and Appgyver. I experienced that the querying capability of nonsql database is really limited. Now I am designing a logistical app that will use the database a lot to communicate between 4 different organisations in developing countries. So there is little budget to keep the system running. And I am thinking to step away from AppGyver (unless the SAP backend is promising and affordable) and doubt if nonsql can support the queries without complicated programing of cloud functions in Firebase. Do you have experience with FutterFlow and Superbase? How well do they interact?

[@arnelcatangayjr2878]

This is helpful! Thanks!

[@docwilliams]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Michael22085]

Excellent video man! Would you reccomend adalo for a social media/content subscription app? Process is as follows: build on adalo with the business plan - then as user base and profitability grows ask them to get code ( I think it's in their terms and conditions) hire a developer to build out new back end and utilize cloud storage like Google or aws? Or is it better to go with flutter? Or something else entirely?

[@docwilliams]

Hey glad you enjoyed the video! Depends on how much you have experience building with no code tools but I like that plan! Allows you to scale and focus on testing your idea! When you say- social media/content subscription app it depends on the exact functionality you need for your app but overall I really like Adalo. If you want to give more details feel free to message me!

[@Michael22085]

@@docwilliams Sure bro, which platform can I message?

[@docwilliams]

@@Michael22085 both can but Adalo is a lot easier to start with it- www.adalo.com/cloneables/chat-feature

[@jonasfor8473]

I can build this application for you, it will be native and stress-free in the future. Can we talk?

[@williamjsheehan]

Very thorough and clear advice. Thanks

[@docwilliams]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ilyaasharris8928]

Thank you, good stuff!

[@docwilliams]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alikibao3744]

I appreciate your videos... Thanks

[@docwilliams]

Thanks Ali! Glad to help! Keep me posted on your progress!

[@Mafia_Food]

Help ..i have 0 experience but i have a big demand about a online bussines în Europe....

[@docwilliams]

Hey glad that you're here! What are you trying to make? Also do you already have customers for your online business?

[@Mafia_Food]

@@docwilliams yes sir.. I do have a lot of customers for the online business.. i'm dealing wih couple of milions wokers arund Europe.. witch will envolve calling.. but on this tutorial u said that flutterflow its a bit new'..

[@Mafia_Food]

@@docwilliams and I dont gnow.. if Adalo works this way.. for me a computer its a bit like a spaceship for me. And I was wondering how to do it and with wath app builder to start.

[@Mafia_Food]

@@docwilliams tnx for the fast anwer Doc'

[@Mafia_Food]

And ,witch of this app builders has features for more languages.. im dealling with all this Europe customers..

[@PrimoEPeru]

Hey Doc, new to the channel and am pleasantly surprised by the content! It's helped me give Adalo a try and I must confess I'm a fan, thus far. Quick question, do you know if the free version of Adalo (as I'm still a beginner and don't want to invest until absolutely sure) allows me to program conditional actions? As in, if a user enters a value into a text box and the value equals string 'xyz' can that be entered as a variable and then can an action take place based on the value of said variable. Also have an upcoming project where a random number is needed. I know in playing with apps like Thunkable before, they had an option for a 'randomizer' which would handle that, can Adalo do something similar? Thanks again for all the content and hard work, you have a humble new subscriber here. Peace!

[@docwilliams]

Hey, welcome to the channel and thanks so much for being here! First off, if you're talking about anything about relations in the app, it can be done (for example, 1:1 or 1-to-many), they do have that structure and there are options to bring in other databases that have relationships you would like. Regarding the number randomizer, I don't think so, but I recommend reaching out to Adalo or seeing if there are any third party components or plug ins.

[@UTJK.]

FlutterFlow is not properly a no code application maker. It's more a visual editor for Flutter projects, that's why it has the download feature, so you can do the app logic on your PC.

[@capou73]

hello good video the problem for me with adalo is that the applications are slow and bug a lot and it is very boring I, who come from France, I'm not sure their server will hold up moreover I saw a lot of comments which say that only with 1000 people the application to create is slow to see very slow and it scares the users So I will test flutter flow which seems to me more stable tampi if an MVP takes me a little longer

[@docwilliams]

Hey Axel! Great points and this really depends on the MVP you're trying to build and what point do you want to validate and how fast. I do agree I have heard Adalo can be slow with more users. Depends on how users you're planning to have in your beta launch etc. Also the speed can be affected based on the functionality of the app so depends on what type of app you're creating. Excited for you to start using FlutterFlow and keep me updated on your progress. Take care!

[@capou73]

Thank you for the answer I understand what you mean the problem was already there for a simple addition of like I had not done anything special yet so I find that adalo has a good structure and good ambition but still too young in terms of raw performance No problem I would tell you to flutter flow

[@idontknow8898]

This is an excellent breakdown video, so I'm 100% subbing. I also love your activity on here, so hopefully my comment will get through too. I wanted to ask if you had a particular recommendation for a job/recruitment app? I'm hoping to have an admin portal for recruiters, and a user side for job seekers to apply for roles. I also plan to link a Web app and mobile app together. Is this possible with these platforms do you know? 🤔 I'm just starting out, have zero coding experience, and am mostly a designer, but I have game dev experience using the unreal engine which is mostly no code and node functions.

[@docwilliams]

Hey Stephen glad to help and welcome! This depends how much time and functionality you want to expand for a recruitment app. For example is mainly going to be a job board and then automations for specific recruiters will get in touch with the applicants? For the most part, I would suggest Softr. Here's a use case here: www.softr.io/client-portal If you want to try it for free and want to support the channel here's my affiliate link: www.softr.io/?via=doc The other option which is more expensive but it allows you to build it with white labeled out of the box is niceboard- niceboard.co/ But if I was just starting out I would use Sofr for an MVP. Let me know what you think and if you have any more questions. Take care!

[@idontknow8898]

@@docwilliams Thanks so much for responding. I'll definitely check these out, thank you. I'm so surprised there's not a Figma style designer with a visual code node based logic system like unreal games engine, but it looks like it is heading in that direction which is good!

[@abbasloda1]

Why you remind of doc rivers lol , nice tutorial.

[@docwilliams]

hahaha I'll take it!

[@lutfiikbalmajid3128]

its 9 pm here haha thanks doc

[@docwilliams]

No problem! Glad you’re here even though it’s getting late over there lol

[@techronin_]

I’m just not crazy about flutter and Dart, if there is a product as mature as this in REACT it would be heaven.

[@docwilliams]

Yeah it would be interesting for sure! Do you mainly use REACT for your projects?

[@techronin_]

In fact you should compare Draftbit to Flutterflow, more of a low code comparison. I find the Adalos and bubbles of the world cool for prototypes or learning but if you want something that requires higher levels of security, I feel more comfortable with a low code tool that lets me have complete control over the app and it’s functions. Including the code and hosting environment.

[@docwilliams]

@@techronin_ thanks! I'll add that to the list!

[@ZaiOfficiell]

Framer❤

[@docwilliams]

👀👀👀👀 🔥

[@mulengandalama9986]

Flutterflow for me

[@docwilliams]

Good to hear! Keep me posted on your progress!

[@eduardoblas2315]

3:29

[@xuxaale3469]

I believe that not everybody is into coding, I guess Adalo is best for them

[@docwilliams]

True some wouldn’t be interested in coding but both of those platforms don’t require coding. For advanced features you would need coding for flutterflow but definitely not a requirement

[@MahmoudFarghal3422]

There is no template for a dating app in Adalo. I guess if you're not using Adalo templates then you'd prefer FlutterFlow.

[@docwilliams]

Hey good question! I wouldn’t say I would prefer FlutterFlow just because of the templates it solely depend on the functionality I need for my app and the skill level I’m at. For example Glide apps has a dating app like Tinder etc but the exact functions you might want may vary depending on your use case.

[@Kozette007]

Adalo has a beginner friendly interface but is extremely basic for entrepreneurs. I switched to FlutterFlow and hired a coach.

[@docwilliams]

Thanks for sharing your experience! Yes I agree with you on those points! Hope everything is going will with your coach and hope you're launch goes well

[@cMrob73]

Thank you for this upload. I haven't a clue. Looking forward to building an app for my small business. From what I have observed Adalo would be best. I sell handmade craft and would like to offer app to customers for easy shopping. Any advice?

[@trendivision2599]

FOR people who are new here!!! ADALO SUCKS!! yes its easy to use and build an app quickly but try building a real app!! it is SUPER SLOW and app doesnt even load at times!!!

[@docwilliams]

Hey, Adalo can be slow but that depends on the type of app you're building. Such as if you're using multiple conditions or a third party database. I'd love to know what kind of app you are trying to build!