Every wrestler that uses a variation of a name throughout their career seem to do better than those that change names completely. Sasha/Mercedes
@BoomboxMike17 ай бұрын
Another iconic wrestler that I still admire Samoa Joe. He kept his name & his personality as a good guy or villain.😁
@21Morgan123 ай бұрын
Same with AJ styles
@ninagreen82282 ай бұрын
To me joe is good as a villain i couldn't even see him as a good guy no
@texasdarkhorse62278 ай бұрын
Sting was also the last Icon of wrestling, from the 90’s. Adams official run ended in 2011, as soon as it was catching steam it ended wont mention the Lita years. Then he came back in 2020. And he was a despicable heel, heels aren’t remembered like baby-faces are.
@RationalWrestlingTalk8 ай бұрын
His best years were no doubt from 2004-2011
@noeljr.77246 ай бұрын
I was the number 1 ''Edgehead'' back in the day and was thrilled when he made his return at the Royal Rumble. Was disappointed when he left WWE for AEW but as a loyal follower of his I decided to check it out. It just wasn't the same and didn't encourage me to keep tuning in. Imagine the matches he'd be having now in the Triple H era.
@21Morgan125 ай бұрын
Well he did have a banger match with sheamus before he left
@santoclaws55904 ай бұрын
Aging wrestlers should be either forcibly retired into a producer role or put over young stars like Sheamus does
@kjd-s5bАй бұрын
When a wrestler left WWE for AEW in 2021: "Yes! Do it!" In 2024: "No! Don't do it!"
@unprovoked992 ай бұрын
You're right on the money I think him being done as "Edge" was also one of the bigger stepbacks to his career, Edge just has a cool ring to it, Adam just humanizes him and ruins the character image. Just like Sting, he should've kept the name.
@Jon_Nadeau_7 ай бұрын
I agree completely. The name/character is often just as important as the wrestler him/herself. People are not interested in Adam Copeland because we spent over 20 years (30 including Edge's 10 year retirement) investing into the Edge character. Changing names is basically changing characters. To make matters worse Edge not only changed his names/character, he also changed wrestling promotions and fans. Not to mention he's 50 years old. When undertaker changed his gimmick in 2000 from the Deadman to the biker he was smart enough to keep his Undertaker name as well as keeping the same SAGA. If Undertaker returned in 2000 as Mean Mark with a completely new gimmick he wouldn't of had the successful career he had post 2000. He wouldn't be Kane's "brother" anymore, the streak storylines never would of happened, etc.
@RationalWrestlingTalk7 ай бұрын
This is facts, imagine if Triple h left wwe in 2010 for TNA and came in as Paul Levesque...no one would care.
@deanrahim30056 ай бұрын
Right,just like A-train when change gimmick to lord tensai at first fan were excited when tensai gimmick debut but after he unmask and fan knew who really is the hype went down
@21Morgan125 ай бұрын
@deanrahim3005 exactly, A train was Goated tensai could've been goated if they didn't use A train and just used another big guy who was actually Japanese
@OneAtFaultMedia3 ай бұрын
This video speaks facts though, unfortunately i doubt he owns the name edge, could be worst though (damon striker) 😅but i enjoyed his matches their and thats just me i've since stopped watching and probably wont tune in again after this whole britt and mjf drama now.
@OneAtFaultMedia3 ай бұрын
@@deanrahim3005 thats the case of it being a different fan base then
@lylaznboi016 ай бұрын
The problem is that AEW have all of these great talent but they're not sure what to do with them. You can only go so far with just having great matches. Without any build or storylines, it's just an indie show on national TV. Another thing too, they lack advertisement. Only hardcore wrestling fans know about AEW and other wrestling companies. Not a lot of casual wrestling fans know about AEW. If you go ask people in the street and ask them if they watch wrestling, most people would think of WWE. There are people who may not know that Edge, or now Adam Copeland, is in AEW. People may not know that Chris Jericho is AEW, or Big Show, Sting, or any other well-known former WWE/WCW wrestler. There are a lot of Edge fans. Some of those fans may have trickled into AEW but saw how the company presented themselves.
@21Morgan125 ай бұрын
There are plenty of casual fans that know about AEW because of Instagram, social media, and wwe stans always bringing up 'how lame aew is' in comment sections of posts.
@JamesR19862 ай бұрын
The difference between AEW Sting and AEW Adam Copeland, is that AEW treated Sting as the nostalgia act he is. Darby did the bulk of the day to day stuff, and Sting made saves and do a spot here or there (both high risk spots and things like no selling the double superkick) AEW treated Adam Copeland like a full time wrestler with programs and feuds and single title matches, and really no help whatsoever. Copeland isn't a full time wrestler anymore. He's well past his prime and coming off a career threatening neck injury. WWE had the right idea when they put him with Judgement Day, which would have allowed Balor, Priest and Ripley to do the dirty work and let Edge be proverbial emperor on the throne behind them. I suspect Copeland bulked at the idea because he is in denial about where he is a wrestler, hence his AEW run being what it is.
@ShanePLUR3 ай бұрын
The problem with signing former wwe wrestlers is they're good for one thing... the debut pop that's about it most the time.. then they just slowly start to lose popularity.
@knightmare10153 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Adam Copeland could only take the theme song with him and not the name "edge" and he was promised the moon and the stars and AEW has not delivered at all. Sting was presented right and years ago he trademarked the name so he could keep it for the rest of his career. But towards the end of his career, Sting was not booked right at all. They put that 65 year old man in a ladder match and he made the mistake of listening to someone younger and damn near broke his neck. Adam did the same thing with his leg.
@JoeyD822887 ай бұрын
honestly i forgot Edge went to AEW
@LastPrayer-km2xz6 ай бұрын
No you didn’t
@JoeyD822886 ай бұрын
@@LastPrayer-km2xz Yeah I saw his debut but has done basically nothing and has done nothing to write about
@LastPrayer-km2xz6 ай бұрын
@JoeyD82288 did you aew edge was on every show he had a 5 month fued with Christian cage and now he's in the a current fued with the house of black
@dumisatonyjohnson81455 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if the WWE wanted him to go by Edge It could’ve been a copyright/likeness thing which is why he had to go by his real name But you’re right Adam isn’t the same as Edge
@davidjsaul4 ай бұрын
WWE owns Edge, so he had to use another gimmick or just his real name in AEW
@michaelyoung96287 ай бұрын
AEW is where all the wwe rejects goes
@I_Am_NAKOA3 ай бұрын
That's b*tch talk
@the6footplustree752 ай бұрын
TNA used to be, and in some ways still is
@y2taner429Ай бұрын
Your actuallly have a point it hits differently. Like how I’d rather watch Christian cage than Christian
@alternative75862 ай бұрын
I feel like Copeland and Ospreay were forced to say the things they said. Why else? It's clear that they were forced to go out and say it, and according to the Bucks, Tony insisted on airing the All In footage. The clear problem in AEW is the not the talent saying this, it's the Elite and Tony Khan!
@Billy2-pg3zj3 ай бұрын
Edge proved he can wrestle not just entertain.
@paulabrego67776 ай бұрын
Wwe rejects about sums them up perfectly
@goodini0268 ай бұрын
and this is why AEW will never reach the success of WWE. They have the talent, and they do have amazing matches...but that only gets you so far. they have no real direction, convincing storylines, booking is all over the place, etc. they just throw together matches for the sake of saying "oh so and so wrestled so and so"...okay and? they have the potential to really rival wwe but again they don't have a clear set goal
@RationalWrestlingTalk8 ай бұрын
Tony Khan disagrees with this comment and Adam Copeland thinks your being negative
@bobbyturner76737 ай бұрын
I am 100% team AEW, and I agree with every word you typed, not really into WWE ,but I can say they are on fire right now.
@RagingUtai7 ай бұрын
They're both no where near the nitro days/ attitude/agression era/. The fact they had to bring back the rock..
@JoshuaWideman-t6j7 ай бұрын
Edge or Adam copeland he is a wwe guy the grass is not always greener on the other side.
@OneAtFaultMedia3 ай бұрын
@@RationalWrestlingTalk nahh lol im sure adam isnt delusional like that😅😂
@frederickmartinez32807 ай бұрын
AEW is the retirement home of professional wrestling.
@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf6 ай бұрын
Nah...that's your local armorys and high school gyms lol
@liontamer89615 ай бұрын
WCW 2.0
@nWo4life2 ай бұрын
@@liontamer8961 WCW was the Biggest wrestling company in the world beating the WWF for 83 weeks in the ratings wcw in north korea The attendance was Day One: 165,000 Day Two: 190,000
@liontamer89612 ай бұрын
@@nWo4life noticed how you used past tense and also friend. Where is WCW nowadays? What happened to it? Please tell me how is AEW beating WWE at anything other than paying their talent more for working less. You lost this argument before you even made it amigo… do better👍
@StarFlagMedia7 ай бұрын
hes an anging veteran, with a midcard belt. no one goes to events for that what are you talking about he was always meant to be enhancement lol
@ianfitton94005 ай бұрын
Aew needs to start doubling down on the talent they have instead of constantly looking to unveil the next big name signing,Yes they have name value but when you keep bringing in another after another it dilutes the impact,instead they need to work with and build a platform for who they have and create solid angles to work the matches around,since the beginning Aew had someone debut,used them for a bit and then sidelined them as the next person came and repeated the process!
@FloridaBoyy10227 ай бұрын
100% AGREED!!! I'm a Edge fan and my 2nd favorite wrestler of all time after Triple H...but Adam Copeland I will never buy into since he first got there...I will never be an Adam Copeland fan...But will always be The Ultimate Opportunist fan Edge...and that's why I can't buy 2k24 because Edge not being on it...not even as a legend
@dmuzik37408 ай бұрын
Facts 💯💯💯
@dkelli60207 ай бұрын
AEW needs to get serious. Send the jokers packing. Thank them for building the brand, but it's big time now. Tone down the foolishness and get some actual control.
@Austin2tall976 ай бұрын
😂
@NyneMilli_3 ай бұрын
Maybe WWE owns the name, a lot of times WWE owns certain names so it’s difficult to take the name with you once you leave, hence why Dean Ambrose probably had to use his real name Jon Moxley
@jeremy23947 ай бұрын
Just those titles have no prestige and lack of story
@IrishKyokushin7 ай бұрын
Adam Copeland is not a star. Edge is a star.
@DownfallDarkness5 ай бұрын
Edge is not a star-Edge is a WWE industry plant. Christian was also a WWE industry plant; whereas Christian Cage is the actual star of their team. Wrestling is fake, and Edge only thrived under a VKM adminstration. Dude was never really the star.
@D0ntTaseM3Br03 ай бұрын
HE is the same person.
@IrishKyokushin3 ай бұрын
@@D0ntTaseM3Br0 yeah, but he's proven how powerful his WWE name is. He's clearly not drawing without it.
@gabeguzman9478Ай бұрын
If TK didn't have the financial backing AEW is just another TNA or ROH
@McMahonHater5 ай бұрын
They might if Tony Khan knew what he was doing.
@jeremyvanb8216 ай бұрын
I never really was thrilled with Edge as a singles. Even in his prime. Not to say I disliked him or he didn’t have some great matches along the way, I just was never excited to see him. It was just “alright I guess”.
@kishore169668 ай бұрын
A single hof program , a 5 min clip from paul heymans induction has more views than shit aew ple
@RationalWrestlingTalk7 ай бұрын
I heard his speech was good
@matthew_thekngp1n6 ай бұрын
Marks in the comments 😂 this is what wrestling fans have come to and Aew went downhill the day CM punk left 💯
@OrochiVegeta07Ай бұрын
probably doesn't help some of the plattforms to watch aew are kind of shit like i only just looked up where here in australia to watch it and i've never even heard of the service. i lost track of tna was our cable channels dropped it back in the day. i can't deny from clips i seen i do think edge in wwe had a better appeal then him as "adam" in aew tbh i feel the same with jericho, i love him as wrestler but it was his wwe runs
@matttrent9462 ай бұрын
ill have to agree that the "Adam Copeland" name value isnt anywhere near the "Edge" name value. nothing more. everytime they refer to him as Adam Copeland it takes a brief moment to think "WHO?" before "EDGE!" kicks in and all is right in the world of wherever the hell i am this week.
@LastPrayer-km2xz6 ай бұрын
A 3 million dollar and is used every week on. Dynamite this guys sounds like a wwe mark
@Ryder-uy7sm4 ай бұрын
No matter how much money he's making I bet you deep down he regrets that decision. Especially with cody and punk he could had some great great matches if he stayed 3-4 times a year, they wanted him as an attraction, he definitely made the wrong choice
@y2taner429Ай бұрын
That’s true but bad booking doesn’t help. If edge and mjf and edge would fued id watch. Although I don’t even watch mjf since the devil stabbed him in the back, not sure why but Adam cole as the devil did not interest me at all and haven’t watched aew since
@MIGUELCHENOISTA17 күн бұрын
I desagree. To me the problem is AEW sucks with a few eceptions like Christian Cage heel run. No one can deny what Edge did in wwe
@TheKennyonTOP3 ай бұрын
Yea I had some bad decisions in underestimating ppl, but there was one person, I was right about, one person I knew from the jump was a flop. That's you Edge, 😏😏😏 you can deceive everyone that you're this big star, but that Rated R superstar segment, was an abstract failure.. . Sorry to break it to Yaa buddy but you NEVER drew a dime buddy 😅😅
@thomasryan48723 ай бұрын
aew is were the garage wrestle
@ronalddesell25412 ай бұрын
No one cares who the tnt champion ever even since Cody
@shermansteele80343 ай бұрын
Don't Fear Shane o Mac is here to save aew 😂 yeah right
@devilmandotson55052 ай бұрын
Without question, he lost most of his worth as soon as he signed to the minor leagues.
@CG_VONАй бұрын
Sting in WWE was good but he was not needed.
@CG_VONАй бұрын
AEW has many problems but the company will have no choice but to adopt to make a real competitive brand. I only see AEW as a wrestling company with disgruntled talent and fans who are looking to put on a wrestling show that is not associated with Vince's WWE... However Vince is GONE!!! THE COMPANY BETTER BE CHANGING UP ITS BUSINESS STRATEGY BECAUSE THINGS WILL BE WORST IF NOT ADDRESS SOON.
@TekMex6664 ай бұрын
He also shouldn't have won the feud against Christian Cage. All he did was ruin his momentum.
@PizzaT6 ай бұрын
ADAM IS EDGE! jk Maybe he needs a new gimmick or just rip off NWO. simple math
@najibjaafar523 ай бұрын
Agreed 200% aew sucks
@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf6 ай бұрын
He's 50 ...who cares?
@muscleT927 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about the negativity dude grow up this is about the future of pro wrestling WWE is dead get over it aew will prove all you hater wrong tk get aew some help the wrestling is down to a t. But the storylines and selling filling seats and selling merch etc that needs work
@RationalWrestlingTalk7 ай бұрын
I want AEW to grow and be successful in the long run I just have my critiques.
@mysteriousworldgaming79627 ай бұрын
I’m a aew and wwe fan and your admitting aew needs help with storylines and seat I agree but how can you say wwe is dead when the viewership is doubling and tripled compared to aew same with seats wwe is making smaller stages due to seat demand so stop being a aew mark and enjoy both companies because there both growing at a fast pace
@redrick89007 ай бұрын
So what you are saying is that you are a WWE zombie that can't make a point.
@bionicrattlesnake21377 ай бұрын
Only a AEW fanboy could come up with such a conclusion. XD
@fobikloko63683 ай бұрын
@@bionicrattlesnake2137 Both aew and wwe suck
@paulabrego67776 ай бұрын
hhh could never cut it on his own. Always had to have his little clicks backing him up.degenerent x, evolution,Steph/Vince,weak.