Sting's Retirement & A Reflection On His Career #5

[@SixFeetUnderwithMarkCalaway]

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[@ZCW_ZANE]

I love you undertaker your the greatest wrestler ever

[@stephano5759]

The podcast should have an alternate sports talk or general talk. Call it DEADMAN TALKING.

[@tylercox1875]

@@stephano5759wwe might have something to say about that 😂 bc they probably have “deadman” copyrighted

[@ninodaghost]

They had one already just not as him as the undertaker

[@illinoiscentralrailroadfan6015]

Mark the dark sting was "the crow"

[@dakotamcnally96]

If we can't have Undertaker vs Sting in a match, can we get Undertaker and Sting in a podcast together?

[@paulcowlishaw]

Sting doesn't want to do it.

[@Briiannn514]

@@paulcowlishawoh yeah cause you know sting right

[@Iceman-xe7jo]

@@paulcowlishawyou mean sting the musician right?

[@jasonnapier2942]

No a cinematic match

[@brianpatrow7558]

That would be a great idea

[@chipchippahson]

The crazy thing is Sting isn't 61. He's 65. Let that sink in. The dude's longevity was unreal.

[@bmills6176]

He was actually 62 250

[@chipchippahson]

@@bmills6176 Uhhhhhhhh we're talking about age here dude.

[@carllouisyoung]

That is so crazy he is 65...

[@josephfuller6229]

​@@bmills6176 that is as dumb as when my uncle tells me his height when I ask him what he is up too

[@songokusan9059]

To undertakers point.. Sting had years of a lighter schedule here and there that help with that longevity, whereas undertaker had hell in the cell, buried alive, infierno matches and intense series of matches with mick foley and kane and other giants.

[@TheGhost-7002]

The fact that this aint called “Dead Man Talking” is a crime.

[@davidjohnson4293]

I upvote that! 😂

[@phillipbishop7719]

That would be nice!

[@maguirre16]

Let's start a petition

[@EazyD401]

Lmaoooo

[@williamvankleijr3839]

Facts!!

[@Htown5]

Hey Taker! Please have Sting on your podcast as a guest

[@immy2492]

Would love to see this!

[@nickgangone9541]

This would awesome to see/hear

[@countdrak3247]

Yeah! It should be !

[@redfire2987]

Please have Sting as a special guest on the podcast sometime in the future.

[@BigJohnNewsChannel]

Sting is frigging 65, Born March 20, 1959. Unbelievable

[@modev4163]

Cant belive hes only 5 years younger than my father

[@thehellyousay]

only 6 years older than i am.

[@mattdonovan4996]

God damn!

[@DJSkandalous]

We definitely need Sting on the show! Get in your wrestling gear and do a stare down vignette for it as promotion! Would be legendary!

[@MasonDaniels-ef6mf]

Sting was definitely the face of WCW he was the man love sting growing up

[@RomesThe59]

Ric Flair?

[@sydsweiner6516]

​@@RomesThe59 could be a generational thing. I'm 34 and I remember Sting more than anyone

[@Nufcphoenix]

I was born in 94 and I don’t remember much but when I think of wcw I think of sting, booker t, Goldberg, diamond Dallas page ect. But sting is definitely the first that comes to mind

[@blacksunday4231]

​@sydsweiner6516 I'm also 34, and though I was more of. WWF kid back then, I still remember WCW pretty well, and I remember all the action figures and t shirts other kids in my neighborhood, school, or my cousins had. The kids that did have the WCW toys and shirts, the two that easily stood out, were Sting and Goldberg.

[@lucasromerova6150]

Called The Franchise for a reason.

[@MrDoyle0]

We couldn't see Undertaker vs Sting, but I'd love to listen to Mark and Steve talk

[@Snyper1405]

Sorry this isn't cena time. There's no "you can't see me" crap 🤣🤣🤣

[@doubles7533]

So Mark just confirmed the Taker Vs Sting match never happened because Vince didn't want it. He was so tone-deaf to the fans, and I'm glad he's gone.

[@davidepannone6021]

200%. I'm glad he's gone for good. To think Vince did not realize the box office of sting vs taker at mania (instead of HHH and that terrible ending) it's insane. Shows how out of touch he was this past decade.

[@kryptoniankaiju]

Vince on Taker vs Sting: "Eh.. I'm not feeling it." Vince on Triple H burying Sting like he did all of WCW's other top talent in the past: "I LOVE IT! LET'S DO IT! AND BURY THE NWO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!"

[@swishbenoit4489]

Vince oh You mean the literal reason this podcast even exist ? Smh

[@BrolyCain]

​@@kryptoniankaiju thats on hhh 2 cant blame vince 4 everything..h wanted 2 bury sting

[@nochilllwill]

vince lost his fastball at the end after 2008 booking decisions became much more spotty

[@pastiesandagstring]

I think another reason sting lasted so long is his move set. He stuck to a pretty safe move set that didn’t do tons of damage to his body.

[@BAztid]

The first 10+ years he was around, Sting was pretty high impact and did some wild spots. His runs with Vader and Foley showed how far he was willing to go. Even after the 'Crow' change, and as recently as Forbidden Door, he showed he was willing to take big bumps.

[@pastiesandagstring]

@@BAztid he took his share of bumps and did crazy stuff on occasion but I mean like his finishers. None of his signatures were too rough on his body. He didn’t use a leg drop or moves where he was slamming down on his knees or tailbone constantly. Like how the leg drop messed up Hogan’s and Matt Hardy’s backs. I’m sure stone colds doesn’t feel too good after all these years either. Or the undertakers knees from doing the tombstone.

[@chapingaryjr]

Good call I always looked at it that way he didn't get to crazy till later on and got more crazy in aew

[@TequilaToothpick]

The fact that HHH got the WrestleMania match instead of Undertaker is the biggest missed match in wrestling.

[@billybadass3056]

that wasn't a missed opportunity.. that was an intentional burial of a legendary legacy performer PERIOD and really why nobody should watch that show ever in life for them, vince and paul, to do something so damn petty

[@pigs18]

That was still during the streak, though. If they faced at Wrestlemania it would have been an automatic Sting loss. Sting was and still is fine with that match. And, remember, his next program was with the WWE Champion. So it's not like they treated him like a jobber. If not for his injury, maybe we get Sting/Undertaker together in the Rumble, the crowd goes wild, Vince sees the dollar signs and makes it happen the following summer.

[@pigs18]

​@@billybadass3056 Remind me. Since they were treating Sting so poorly, who was he facing when he got injured? And wasn't there some sort of championship on the line? With the way everyone whines about how badly he was being booked it surely had to be something silly like the 24/7 nonsense, right? Butterfly belt? At least that ugly Fruit Rollups belt, right?

[@matao33]

Seth Rollins for the WWE Universal Championship.​@@pigs18

[@Snyper1405]

It was intentionally done like that. Everyone knows that triple h wouldn't put sting over in his first match ever in WWE. Sting made the biggest mistake by ever coming to RAW as alot of other WCW wrestlers got buried DDP is one unfortunately

[@gothard5]

Sting was part of Mid South Wrestling/UWF when it was bought out by the Crocketts. That is how Sting came to WCW. Sting and Warrior actually started in Mid South as the Bladerunners before Warrior left and went to World Class.

[@TheImmortalDeadman]

Sting and The Undertaker on a podcast would break the internet 🔥

[@kitelife22]

The possibilities🔥

[@OrlyEnriquez]

If at least we have that…honestly I will stop crying about the match that never happened

[@heyah1447]

I thank Scott Hall everyday for turning him into Crow Sting

[@elmalevojj]

Best idea ever

[@DB-ek5kd]

What a bizarre thing to think about every day.

[@aggressive9999]

😂😂​@@DB-ek5kd

[@ltopomcfly5583]

Vince screwed Sting. Insane to bury him with Triple H and then put him in a match with unsafe Seth Rollins. Sting was one of the first guys to protect himself. He worked smart, took breaks and got over by building storylines and having great segments. Vince f'd up that formula.

[@andrewft31]

Sting was suppose to go over Rollins, that was part of the agreement… Triple H got Mania and Sting got the belt but he got injured during the match so they had to change to ending so he didn’t get injured further. Sting has said that was his fault because he didn’t prepare his body for the move properly and Rollins checked on him in the back because apparently Sting was a major influence on Rollins

[@ninjanunch27]

That's why Sting never wanted to go to WWE. I'm glad he got the end he deserved in AEW and had a nice run with Darby. Ended being tag team champs

[@Kevmaster2000]

How is Seth unsafe? Sting himself already said him getting hurt was NOT on Seth, he already had an issue and taking the bump didn’t help it.

[@ltopomcfly5583]

@@Kevmaster2000 He injured Bray at the time AND Finn Balor. Then, after ending Sting's career, he injured himself and lost the WWE title.

[@mariorodriguezjunior]

​@@andrewft31 Sting was supposed to go over? goddamit Seth.

[@hawg_tv]

He was the franchise. Won more titles than anyone across all promotions combined. The GOAT of GOATS.

[@estevenj]

Surfer Sting, Crow Sting, Wolfpack Sting, Joker Sting (TNA), Crow Sting (WWE), Legend Sting (AEW)

[@everjones9312]

Sting was on a lot of wrestling promotions

[@estevenj]

And Blade Runner Sting from WCCW (with Ultimate Warrior 😂🤣)

[@ludicrous7044]

Wonder if Sting could have made it without makeup or just one character??🐝

[@estevenj]

@@ludicrous7044 sounds like you’re a dummy.

[@khamla616]

Vince is so out of touch no sting vs taker and Kurt’s last match with Corbin

[@davidepannone6021]

200%. I'm glad he's gone for good. It's insane to be Vince McMahon and not realize the box office sting vs taker (instead of HHH) at mania would've generated. Shows how much out of touch he was this past decade.

[@БоднарРостислав]

​@@davidepannone6021I agree in principle, but Taker HHH was wm 27-28, right? Sting could've been not available at the time to transfer. Such deals take a lot of time, negotiation, then renegotiation, consent ultimately. But in perfect world Sting Taker for wm 30 would be great.

[@davidepannone6021]

@@БоднарРостислав dude I'm talking triple h vs sting which was horrible and even more so had an horrible finish with both DX and the nwo run ins. Nothing about hunter vs taker.

[@БоднарРостислав]

@@davidepannone6021 oh, ok. There was no angle, though. Streak was broken, and there was no time to make up a new story in place. They pitched that antiauthority thing for SO long. That's two matches that went wrong, Taker Brock and Sting HHH. Sting HHH could've been fine if they made it not just a street fight but like extreme rules. Then, if both DX and NWO stormed in and started wrecking up the place, that would be fun, but they would all need to be quite a bit younger for that to work. One of those things that got its implementation a decade too late. If they're too old to perform, don't show them, I agree.

[@cccmmm1093]

I'm glad it didn't happen. I don't know why people don't understand that they were both way past it lol. Neither were in their prime or close to it. Should be thanking Vince for not ruining your expectation of that match.

[@secondbest2877]

Was “Crow Sting” really viewed as a knockoff to Undertaker? I never saw anything in Crow Sting that reminded me of ‘Taker.

[@michaelriverajr8891]

"Crow" sting was more closely related to the movie "the crow" instead of the undertaker. Never considered sting a knockoff of the Deadman when he switched from surfer sting to crow sting.

[@davidepannone6021]

Nah. It's just idiots that for some reason are tribalistic over whatever wrestling company they watch.

[@Metalmessiah007]

Agreed

[@jordaneason5658]

It was more of not talking and hair in his face

[@78deathclutch]

It was because crow sting was a darker character and he was the franchise of wcw like undertaker was the phenom of wwe

[@Di3Lityuh]

Please have taker and sting together in a podcast.

[@billybadass3056]

what I'm about to say I've said SO MANY Times in the past and I'll CONTINUE to say this.... vince MCDOUCHEBAG is/was the biggest and most overrated promoter in all of entertainment, ego driving and full of ABSOLUTE SHT..... did he have a few great creation concepts?? sure but he's had INFINITELY more failed gimmicks then ones that worked... he was extremely petty short sited and ONLY Benefited in monetary gains from his performers work and nothing else... the fact that he could be so petty to give Steve Burdon all that money just so his boy Paul and commentators could bury him a Wrestlemania I gotta say is one of the biggest Dbag moves anybody could do in entertainment history, one of the biggest at least... I get that Steve got the bag for joining that corny company for that short period but too me at what cost to his legacy... anyways I'm probably one of the few ppl that don't mind that him and mark didn't do a program together because knowing how vince worked he would have just had mark bury Sting anyways in spectacular fashion and I personally wouldn't have wanted to see that.. F vince till eternity

[@senorfish2503]

Wwe did sting zero favors when he finally crossed over

[@lucasromerova6150]

Joker Sting was even better Booked.

[@jasonlewis9240]

Dixie carter knew how to use STING

[@Light_Bearer03]

If he hadn't gone, he would've spent the rest of his life wondering anx haunted by what could have been. They did him a huge favor showing him that he was right for all those years. He can retire in peace, now.

[@pigs18]

Conveniently forgetting that the injury that sidelined him was in a WWE Championship match.

[@trapdoorfloyd]

Undertaker never understood who and what Sting really was. Sting didn't hide or take it easy like Undertaker says. Sting was still doing crazy things all the way to the end in AEW. To give Undertaker an idea about what Sting really was just think Tom Brady of wrestling. 🦂

[@VisceraBand]

Here's an idea have Sting on the podcast and book how that match would play out

[@nextjin]

Sting was the face of the WCW more so than anyone else because he never left for WWE. Flair, Luger, Stieners, Austin, Hall, Nash, Pillman, Taker, Arn Anderson, Sid, Benoit, Guerro, etc. All of them left prior to the collapse at one point or another. Sting didn’t. He stayed the entire way through.

[@andrewft31]

Austin was fired… so it isn’t like he left willingly. They saw no money in Nash, Taker, Hall, Guerrero or Benoit. Flair they fired also because he refused to be turned into Spartacus and cut his hair.

[@skrillabagbg]

Sting & Taker Podcast would break the net

[@thechosen1515]

Sting had Love and compassion for the game. So unreal. The goat 🐐. The legend. The Icon.

[@Undertakerfan365]

Mark, I'm not sure if you remember but you had a match with Sting before you were The Undertaker back as Mean Mark in WCW. Do you have any memories of working with Sting when he was still Surfer/The Franchise of WCW?

[@daveweaver3886]

I'll never get over this match never happening, biggest missed opportunity ever. That said, can you please bring Sting on the show?

[@Irish2050]

The amount of respect from Mark here is just inspirational. The guy literally talked for 13 minutes praising another guy, even answering the question around similiarities in style or age without any competition or snub. What a guy, we all need to have a friend like The Undertaker! :D Imagine that slogan back in the day as a kid, "Be Like The UnderTaker" hahaha

[@tlmass81]

Sting & Warrior were a tag team in Mid South known as the Blade Runners where Warrior was known as Rock. Then Warrior went to World Class & became the Dingo Warrior.

[@tmage23]

Technically it wasn't Mid-South but UWF - which was basically the same entity with a different name

[@ChargerBullet]

They started their training in California for Powerteam USA. When that went nowhere they were picked up by Jerry Jarrett's CWA as The Freedom Fighters (Jim Justice Hellwig and Steve Flash Borden). They turned heel as The Blade Runners (Rock and Sting) shortly after. Then they went to Bill Watt's Mid-South (what later turned into UWF). They split up and Hellwig went to Fritz Von Erich's WCCW where he renamed himself The Dingo Warrior, while Sting continued on in UWF. Dingo Warrior then went to the WWF where he became The Ultimate Warrior and Sting stayed in UWF when it was then bought out by Jim Crockett's JCP but called NWA. That particular NWA was then sold to Ted Turner where it became known as WCW.

[@damarcusbest1118]

​@@ChargerBulletThis is the comment I was looking for! Glad someone else knows the history! 7:45

[@charlie7712]

Hey I think you should have STING on the show. Now that would be so cool.

[@krusso14]

Sting wrestled in Mid-South Wrestling with Rock (Ultimate Warrior) as the Blade Runners in 1986-1987. He was also with Eddie Gilbert’s stable as a tag-team with Rick Steiner in Mid-South Wrestling. He then wrestled in NWA in 1987 when NWA merged with Mid-South Wrestling, which later became WCW.

[@hzafary]

Two Words: Cinematic Match!

[@KentaObscuro]

No

[@gothard5]

absolutely not. I hated those matches.

[@zk3212]

Nope

[@DawnYzaguirre-ct4hw]

You can tell he has a lot of respect for Sting and that's wonderful to hear.

[@Takerrollin06hd]

Happy birthday the Undertaker 💜🎩🕯️⚱️⚰️🪦

[@Yungndzrs]

GET STING ON YOUR PODCAST MARK !

[@j.t.a5395]

Takers set changes every month 😂

[@DG_Raizen]

​@Justaguywho Screw it. Bring back the original 90-92 Funeral Parlor!

[@knightshousegames]

He always knew how to reinvent himself

[@GreetingsFromSpace]

followed by the boiler room@Justaguywho

[@thomgriswold3474]

Listening to The Undertaker speak from the tree of knowledge of the wrestling world is so insightful, entertaining and simply a blast. Thank you!!

[@herminiacruz3639]

¡Gracias!

[@thoughtzbytreee]

Sting coming down from the ceiling is one of the best things in all Pro Wrestling. He always thanked Scott Hall for coming up with the Crow gimmick.

[@joelandobutterfield1174]

Yep and props to Sting for how long he was out of ring action to fuel the build up with his match against Hogan at Starrcade.Even though the match was subpar to build that up for so long and keep fans tuned in was something else.During that time you had diehard fans of WWF watching WCW or flipping back and forth between Raw and Nitro.

[@mcnielentertainment]

Closest to a match with Sting Vs Undertaker is in a WWE game that has Sting

[@Michael-ut6zb]

It sucks that Sting didn't make the jump to WWE a lot earlier, but that's a wrap. it is what it is, and that's on him. I think they both had insanely long peaks for their careers which is impressive given their ages. I agree if it happened around 2009 or 2010 the match would've been better received by the general public. I'm pretty sure a lot of people wanted to see it happen just for the story they could have put on with both their gimmicks even if the match wasn't a 5 star masterpiece. Undertaker/Sting is still my 1 dream match. I think a feud/match with these two in their primes would have been the most entertaining match ever. But I'm so biased cause I love both guys. Don't mind me

[@girlytomboyx]

To be fair, if Sting did jump to WWE earlier than he did, he would get burnt like other WCW stars that moved to WWE, cus Vince want to make WCW lose and that WWE is better than WCW stars. Vince proved that by burying Sting for HHH's unneeded win at Wrestlemania. I think Sting made a right call to NOT join WWE post-Invasion era.

[@Heller103085]

ALMOST had him in 2002 at wrestlemania 18…they were gonna do sting vs angle but didnt happen at the 11th hour

[@nicoladollard1845]

Totally agree but he seen how the others were treated he is wcw taker is wwe but they are both legends vince wss the problem and hhh he didn't deserve that match and the fans didn't want it either

[@TheMegamyGamer]

@@nicoladollard1845 Yeah, in of his interview he speark about that, he didn't sign for the invation because he didn't belive that WWE/Vince would threat is character well. So he waited to see how the other guys would turn out. And wellllllll yeah. he was right, rare where the WCW guys who hit the top straight up.

[@newerascorpio6467]

Sting in TNA was legendary he had BFG matches against JJ, Angle, Samoa Joe,Hulk Hogan, AJ Styles, Nick Aldis

[@markthompson7503]

"Dingo Warrior".....respect. I remember being a teenager and getting my PWI magazines so I knew about Warrior before he hit WWF. What a time to be alive. Koloff, Rhodes, Flair, Sting, Von Erich's, Road Warriors, Midnight Express, Rock n Roll Express, Nick Bockwinkle, Larry Zbysko, AWA, NWA, GLOW!

[@henmat3000]

Sting and Undertaker actually wrestled in 1990, back when Taker was in WCW as "Mean Mark Callous" and Sting was the "Surfer Sting."

[@dgilroy26]

Sting and Taker had some of the best long careers. They stayed good for so long

[@Sad1stic]

Sting vs Taker would have been great in the late 90s. We'll never get to see it unfortunately but those two on a podcast together would be a great consolation.

[@that1guy200x]

I just hear Scott Hall telling sting "I'm not saying riff off of Taker but riff off of Taker" lmao. So cool to hear these guys actually talk about other wrestlers and give them their due praise.

[@dice268926]

Vince dropped the WCW ball HARRD. He did them dirty

[@pigs18]

Blame UPN and USA. Neither network wanted WCW on their show. They paid for WWE and that was what they were dtermined to get.

[@JoesRambles]

What makes Taker such a legend is not just what all he accomplished in the ring, it is also his appreciation for the fans. He made the point here that fans pay and deserve to be entertained. He always did just that. I saw him in WCCW as Texas Red. Even then he seemed to go full out even though he was not a big star and was under a mask. He really laid it all out there to entertain us.

[@CK4RC]

Mark's insight behind the curtain, and his ability to share info without making assumptions and speaking for others is phenomenal.

[@Raven9940]

"Father time has never lost" is one of the best quotes ever!

[@savagemadness77]

Sting is a senior citizen. Amazing.

[@dannydelaurangomezlopez4732]

sting with the creation of sting at times he was even bigger than the undertaker so well done for him allways the best sting

[@Metalmessiah007]

I've seen sting at 3 different house shows in the late 90s during his crow era

[@JayPlays-tv]

Thank god for the unbiased moderator. Taker was trying to bury the shit out of the stinger. Sting is older than Taker, was super over while Mark Calloway was a jobber. Taker acting like Sting lasted 2 years with AEW off of “smoke and mirrors” was sad to hear. Wish he had more respect for what Sting was able to do, while being much older than Taker during the time he was hobbling to the ring botching matches in Saudi Arabia and years after. I just hate these OG wrestlers don’t give Sting his props because they went out on such a lesser note.

[@fan977]

Happy birthday Taker

[@dhag72]

Sting is 65! Crazy isn't it. Fellas work full time their whole life to be all bound up and cripple by then. Sting, for years went out and beat the shit out of himself every time he went out there(as they all do) and look at the shape he's in at 65! Now his son is training to wrestle!

[@andrewvincent7299]

1997 Sting vs 1998 Taker would have been freaking phenomenal!!

[@AR_112]

Yeah that would have been box office

[@michaeld1889]

When it comes to Sting and his evolving into the "Crow" character, I think that the filter of time has really not reflected just how big he was in the lead up to Starrcade 1997. I mean, there was NOTHING hotter. And this was during the infancy of the internet, but Sting would show up on screen and it was, if you were the right age, GOOSEBUMPS and like a real life superhero. Undertaker (especially his return at Wrestlemania 20) had the same aura about him. I think that's why fans paired them. The only wrestling story, in recent memory, that was on the scale of Sting v. Hogan, that I could think of, was Cody v. Roman at Wrestlemania 39. In addition, I don't feel its acknowledged enough that Sting got so huge with just his body language and his sheer charismatic presence. I can't think of a talent that could get so "over" without saying a single word for a WHOLE YEAR. Much like The Undertaker himself, Sting really was a once in a generation.

[@djScratchyPants]

I'd love to see Taker in an on screen role similar but different to a manager. Toss a couple chokeslams here and there. Pair him w/ a supernatural performer to give them legitimacy. I just love seeing Mark, doesnt matter how physical he gets.

[@Amiga1200Mark]

Minor league? They put over 70000 in a stadium last august. They also provide income to alot of talented wrestlers. And they were very classy with Sting. Great piece , with a non classy dig at the end. Not from taker though may i add. As for Mt Rushmore. Mine is Taker Bret Shawn Austin and Rock. Taker the goat. Bret the best wrestler. Shawn the best athlete. Austin the biggest star. And Rock took wrestling mainstream and to places only he could. Even hollywood embraces wrestling now. Thats on The Rock.

[@madsweeney8931]

Get Sting on !!! That would be such an amazing episode.

[@Patrick-Inc]

The reason why Vince did not want Undertaker versus Sting would be because. He would not want to put a WCW character up to the same level as The Undertaker, which is probably one of the top two greatest WWF/WWE creations. His ego needs to be on top so he was trying to make sure everyone knows that sting is slightly under Undertaker. If they make Sting job to triple h then there's no need for someone grander then triple h like Undertaker to come out. Also let's face it. Triple h probably had a word and wanted to have that on his resume ......a defeat on Sting

[@trapdoorfloyd]

Sting was the man, he was like Tom Brady of wrestling. 🦂

[@hops2099x]

Versions of Sting: Surfer sting is what everyone calls the Malibu sting 😉 Crow sting is the nWo war sting which had a few versions of the facepaint but it’s predominately black and white Wolpac sting is the red n black TNA saw the Joker sting where he played a crazy lost his mind sociopath kinda evolution…

[@benburnside5049]

I would love to see Sting as a guest on this show. I would watch that entire episode

[@stephano5759]

I love when Taker acts like AEW is little brother and doesn’t mention their wrestlers and acts like he hates Indy wrestling but in reality he’s a huge fan.

[@Dr_V_von_Doom]

Aew is for smelly marks who love joshis.

[@fscorpion678]

AEW's treatment of legends have always been pure class.

[@victorbilly4769]

Exactly 💯

[@WildWesPhilly]

If it wasn’t mentioned, Sting was never in World Class Championship Wrestling with Mark or da Ultimate/Dingo Warrior. He was in Mid-South, wrestling with Dingo Warrior (then called “Rock”), as one half of the Bladerunners, managed by “Hot Stuff” Eddie Gilbert back in late ‘85. Sting remained throughout the company’s tenure until it changed to UWF and when the company was bought out (or top talent purged by) to NWA/WCW. I remember those years vividly

[@zachfromontario8213]

Sting and Warrior - The Blade Runners started with Mid South, then got bought by NWA turned into WCW. TNA then AEW. Sting worked on his craft from beginner to Legend

[@TAVAAR7]

Sting and Undertaker are my all time favorites. As much as I would've loved to see that match the only real satisfactory ending to it would have to be a draw with mutual respect and admiration (and probably some form of "supernatural" air to it using rafters, under ring/facility passages etc for each at a couple points during the match).

[@Billy2-pg3zj]

Stings career was ruined by Rollins and wwe and saved by AEW

[@Gibson343088]

Sting saved himself, AEW almost killed him a dozen times over.

[@maexpert11]

I don't think Sting shares the same belief about Rollins he's never publicly said a bad word about it or him as far as I know

[@Billy2-pg3zj]

@@maexpert11 it was a ridiculous move to do on someone his age

[@maexpert11]

@@Billy2-pg3zj maybe so but Sting agreed to do it I'm sure he could have said no and he's not bitter so I really don't get everyone else being that way about it

[@Billy2-pg3zj]

@@maexpert11 I think it was a sad end to his time in wwe but at least he got a good send off in AEW

[@ChrisJohnson-x1x]

Little unknown Fact: But the Taker v Sting match technically did happen. But, this was before Surfer Sting was Crow Sting, and before Mean Marc was The Undertaker. P.S. I think Vince's mindset was "What If" is better than "That wasn't as good as I wanted it to be", and in Theatre the saying always goes "keep the audience wanting more".

[@devins8]

Undertaker/Sting Podcast?!?!?!? PLEEEEEEEASE WE’RE BEGGING!!! IF WE CANT HAVE THE MATCH… GIVE US THE PODCAST!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@righteousredneck777]

Sting had to change his facepaint with the Crow character in the beginning. James O'barr,creator of the Crow told him..man, this is my character your doing yourself up like. Steve didn't have to do a lot,but he did have to tweak the paint

[@williamnimbach6419]

We need sting as a guest on this show!! I wish sting and taker could’ve had that match at 31!! Nobody would’ve expected them to go out and give us a 5 star classic. even in their prime they wouldn’t have a 5 star classic match! It wasn’t about the match it was about the story just seeing them 2 in the same ring face to face would’ve been epic!!!

[@solomonsmith8606]

I love how fan centric Taker is. Great work comes from individuals putting aside ego and collaborating to create a better product. I'm questioning without Taker would the WWE be what it is today?

[@anders-cr1ux]

A face to face in the royal rumble is really all we need. It would be easy for both guys. Its not so much the match people want but the story they could create.

[@jaredthehawk3870]

The incredible amount of respect Taker has for Sting is evident in how he's speaking of him and his career. It's also refreshing to see how apolitical he is when it comes to companies too. The man respects talent wherever it's found.

[@17gravy]

Yep, Sting was in Mid-South as one of the Blade Runners with Ultimate Warrior

[@richardwalker7636]

Sting versus Undertaker is the biggest omission in wrestling history. He's being polite because Vince is his friend. Vince didn't give a shit about having steam. He just didn't want WCW to have him and he definitely didn't want that match because he feared that it would make Sting bigger and if he left again he would be sending heat over to the competition. That's why the Mansion never happened. It was Vince's ego bottom line

[@michaeljohn8403]

Sting and Dingo Warrior!!! Texas wresting in the late 80's!! I'm glad that you remembered thst.

[@GrendelNin]

The ultimate dream match: Sting vs the Undertaker in a... thumb wrestling match. Someone PLEASE make this happen.

[@pigs18]

No Mercy with Sting CAW.

[@DJSkandalous]

Lets get a show with the Underfaker and Ted Dibiase ! Would love to hear how all that went down from each others perspectives

[@gothard5]

His name is Primetime Brian Lee and I don’t think he is alive anymore

[@Gamejone_123]

Never had Brothers of destruction vs Kevin Nash and Sting, dream match. But would like to see Sting on the pod, he also got loads of insider stories!

[@djschwartz1380]

Please have Sting as a guest. This would be awesome

[@EnzoPontrelli]

He had such an amazing stellar career at least we got to see the two of you wrestle in WCW i'll take that as a feather in one's cap thank you Mark & Steve you're both icons & legends. 👏

[@Straggiz]

I still remember watching him work with Eddie Gilbert back in 86 with the Mid-South. Good stuff.

[@BigMikeLewis]

Sting is bigger than WCW or WWE. He didn't need the big company to seal his legacy. He's THE icon.

[@GaryHeinstrom-x5s]

I watch both :) WWF when I was a kid then WWE and a little WCW. Then WWE and eventually mostly just NXT and then AEW mainly. Now back to WWE with PL running the story. So ya, in the middle just looking out for good wrestling shows mainly. Loved Sting's run and his retirement and also what was done for Muta. Very cool.

[@ImFreezerBurnCompared2Cool]

The 2 biggest opportunities missed by Vince… 1- Hogan vs Flair at WM 2-Taker vs Sting at WM

[@JRock-xv3sk]

I just enjoy good wrestling no matter what the initials of the company are. Happy for both Sting and Taker. 2 pillars of the industry.

[@medicare911]

Sting and Warrior actually got their start tagging in Mid-South Championship Wrestling, as Rock and Flash managed by Hot Stuff Eddie Gilbert, not in Dallas' WCCW where Taker got his start. Flash's name actually was changed to Sting shortly thereafter, for whatever reason (D.C. comics copyrights maybe?) Warrior left after about a year stint in the company and bolted for Dallas where he took on the moniker of the Dingo Warrior, around the time that Taker was breaking into the business, in Dallas, as the Punisher.

[@steelman774]

6:20 “I could walk out there and shuck&jive and smoke&mirror it and make people feel like they saw something… but that’s just not right.” The man just described the industry at its core after just claiming to throw the best punch in the business. Taker is amazing. He’s right AND he’s also right. It’s been an amazing time to have lived through the Monday Night Wars and then to see these two icons (crowd favorites and 2 of my all time top workers) respectfully retire (I made sure I was at Sting’s retirement match/show) but then to also have the chance to see Mark talk about the business out of character… it’s humbling that such an icon will break down the business and give us insight through his life. He is The American Badass!

[@nurseelliott4256]

I felt Sting was more over in wcw without having match. Insane how over his crow like character was then. The one where flew back up into the rafters blow my mind

[@RafCaroonitst]

First time ... Writing. All time fan of the Undertaker. It would be cool to see y'all be a tag team.

[@dangxdc8348]

Sting confronts Undertaker after Bray Wyatt match at "31" WWE JUDGMENT DAY Sting vs Undertaker WWE SURVIVOR SERIES 2015 Undertaker vs Sting WWE WRESTLEMANIA "32" HELL IN A CELL Stinger vs Undertaker WWE RAW GM Shane McMahon as referee