Adam Hills Rants About Las Vegas Shooting | The Last Leg

Adam Hills talks about the recent shooting in Las Vegas.
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[@streglof]

Hearing about the nth mass shooting in the US is like hearing about a stubborn kid tripping over his shoes because he refuses to tie his laces.

[@dangenner2116]

streglof Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@Muahaha651]

Same with bombings in Europe

[@ste1985ste]

AMERICAN LOGIC: "the issue is not guns, but the bad person holding a gun. A gun by itself is harmless." True, but by the same logic you could also argue that reinforced cockpit doors are pointless if security checks on the ground are thorough. Yet, in light of the 9/11 attacks there was acknowledgement that an individual with a tool at his disposal capable of inflicting mass murder is an issue that ought to be tacked by adopting comprehensive strategy. Hence, the increased security checks on the ground and reinforced cockpit doors. Why doesn't the same logic and strategy apply to semi automatic guns which by definition, contrary to planes, are tools capable of inflicting mass murder??

[@HeroesFeastoes]

Nice person scrolling: STOP. Don't bother with the comments. They're pretty much what you'd expect. Have a nice day.

[@willherondale6367]

Heidi Fischer thank you... I needed to see this before I fell into complete and utter dispair. I hope you have a nice day too :)

[@SuperEvilC]

Heidi Fischer Put your blinders on and remain uneducated!!

[@Zero_Ninety]

Thought that might be the case. The internet seems to be 90% right wing trolls these days.

[@magellanicraincloud]

Thanks Heidi. Have a great day.

[@madame.L]

thanks

[@tothethreshold.9965]

As a gun enthusiast all i can say is this... in the UK we banned pistols and semi automatics are highly restricted. Its still easy to obtain hunting weapons provided you have good reason beyond simple "i want a gun". I shoot as much as i wish to... but i am GLAD i live in a civilized society where weapons are respected as just that. Guns are not toys America, you are a young nation but its time you grow up.

[@rebeccahodgson2652]

To the threshold. I completely agree with what you are saying. I shoot. I’ve been shooting for 10 years, I have a shotgun and a air pistol. They are highly controlled and like you say there is a reason to own them. I know someone who got refused a license because he was on certain medication and he was deemed unsafe to own a gun privately

[@holdtightadele8017]

Civilised people don’t walk into schools and shoot children. I get what your saying but it’s not easier in the UK like you think... guns in a while are hard to get and then you’d need a license to legally own one. Even then you aren’t allowed to carry it. There are more mass shootings in the US than there are terrorist attacks in the UK that are normally low on casualties anyway... Did you not listen to a word Victoria said? We are very different keep your guns if you wish... we don’t care. But don’t you dare tell us we should adopt you’re principals on guns cause we did the right thing... guns are for war.

[@Don-ii4vm]

New Zealand is an excellent example of a country that acts in the interests of its citizens. The number and frequency of mass shootings in the US is a clear indication of a broken society. The US has fallen down badly when it comes the regulation of firearms and mental health of its citizens.

[@thefunnyguy944]

Fair enough, you should be allowed to keep your pistols and your hunting rifles if that's your sort of thing. But there is no excuse to have a machine gun, an automatic rifle or any conversion tool that allows existing weapons to be turned into semi or fully automatics. No self-respecting hunter sprays and prays a deer to death. It's the 21st century, ain't no machete man is gonna break into your home, and if the government wanted to kill you they'll just drone strike your home. America is the only first world country to exhibit the paranoia of a tyrannical government. All real paranoias for Americans can be solved with low calibre handguns. You may think banning machine guns will lead to further legislation, but believe me a small step like that would make a huge difference and still allow gun owners to fire a few rounds on the range. Have something that can kill a person a second is just unnecessary.

[@leopheard]

97% of murders with guns here are with semi-auto handguns, the other 2.99% is literally semi-auto shotguns and semi-auto rifles. Fully auto is so low it doesn't even feature. Also, just one more restriction hey? And then next time, another restriction? Look at what they've done to non-2A stuff in other states because they're not protected by the 2A, you can't carry a knife in New York, California have banned batons, tasers, stun guns and some pepper sprays for civilians. Look at the UK, very tight on guns yet they couldn't help but 100% ban pepper spray and anything in public for self-defence could they?

[@thefunnyguy944]

+leopheard I'll take what I can get, any improvement is good even if it's only a few percent difference. All guns should be banned ideally from public carrying. Again you have this paranoia of "further legislation," it's like anything if it works, good, if it doesn't then at least they tried. It's hard enough getting the most simple legislation through and the corrupt NRA lobyists wouldn't let anything else through if they budged. Better than just doing nothing and accepting massacre after massacre until thousands of lives have been spent for nothing. I think you'll find pepper spray is perfectly legal to carry in the UK, just very few people do because they don't feel unsafe because we live in a developed country where nobody is arrogant enough to believe that people want to constantly murder them. Who cares if most people are responsible gun owners, any life is worth trying to save.

[@margaretsmart1280]

Absolutely, but America isn't a first-World country...

[@thefunnyguy944]

+Richard Smart yeah thanks for that amendment, an embracing typo

[@thefunnyguy944]

+Richard Smart yeah you're right, sorry about that, embarrassing typo

[@GeorgiaGeorgette]

And since this episode, it's happened again...

[@tjjames9846]

And again and again and again and….

[@timallen4717]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who actually recognises American society as a completely different society with very few similarities to the Western European societies.

[@PintOfJinnes]

Having a low caliber handgun for self defence reasons, fine (If it’s in a household with kids though, keep it under lock and key). Having a hunting rifle/shotgun for, well, hunting, fine. But I cannot understand the need for a fully automatic assault rifle or sub-machine gun, at all. Can someone (preferably an American) please explain why someone would feel the need to have an automatic rifle?

[@Y3N1X]

Havokman 48 a ar 15 is not fully automatic.

[@jackthebassman1]

@@Y3N1X So what? It can fire many, many, many times more than a single shot musket that was the weapon when the amendment was made.

[@alexchannon]

Only just realised that the L is missing in the background... I knew something was off...

[@wunndergurl911]

I had a friend tell me that she wouldn’t be comfortable in a country where the government can have weapons she can’t. I just looked at her and asked where she stored her tank and nuclear submarine. Yes I am American and yes I own guns but I actually live where there are bears and badgers

[@seedhillbruisermusic7939]

because badgers are notorious killers?

[@wunndergurl911]

@@seedhillbruisermusic7939 oh yes they have big teeth and can attack. They will attack other animals

[@seedhillbruisermusic7939]

@@wunndergurl911 they eat worms, insects and small mammals...? hardly a gunworthy opponent

[@wunndergurl911]

@@seedhillbruisermusic7939 they attack when cornered. Trust me I have experienced it personally

[@seedhillbruisermusic7939]

@@wunndergurl911at least they're not african honey badgers, they'll go for your jugular!

[@imasinnerimasaint]

Apparently less than a month later there's been one in Maryland.

[@andrewwright9378]

Nice veiled (or accidental )reference to the New McCarthyism, Josh. “Hands off RT, mate.

[@shellibelli4387]

The majority of Americans would like some kind of gun control. The politicians are too busy being 'persuaded' (bribed?) by gun lobbyists to NOT change the laws. Allowing someone to have dozens of semi-automatic weapons is like letting someone go up to a bar and order dozens of drinks. Usually in the US there's a 2-drink limit per person (I think) each time they walk up to the bar. There should be some kind of limit for guns too.

[@SuperEvilC]

Shelli Belli TOTALLY FALSE... The VAST majority of Americans do not want any of our Constitutional rights taken away NOT AT ALL. Been that way for 200+ years and it will remain that way!!

[@SuperEvilC]

Shelli Belli Gun are a RIGHT guaranteed right in the USA Constitution.... drinking booze is what you might consider a privilege but it's not mentioned in the constitution!!

[@somerandomguy2073]

2 drink limit?! Hahah, that's hilarious. Unlucky. How the hell do you buy a round? If there's ten of you, then does that mean five people have to go to the bar in order to get served, then? Seems needlessly uptight.

[@shellibelli4387]

Some Random Guy: I confess I'm old and haven't been into a bar in years. I'm thinking back to pro. baseball games where there was a 2-drink limit at the snack bar. I'm not even sure if they sell beer at stadiums anymore. The point was that maybe there should be a limit on semi-automatic rifles. Maybe 10 per person max? It would be a compromise.

[@shellibelli4387]

SuperEvilC: Maybe alcohol SHOULD have been in the constitution. Then we wouldn't have had the 19th and 21st amendments.

[@therealrunic9282]

It says "THE AST LEG" in the background

[@leonbanks5728]

The Real Runic It was a reference to what happened at the Tory party conference that week.

[@JamesForster1123]

"The ast leg" look at the sign in the background

[@nope2455]

when the constitution was written and signed, the most powerful of guns took around a dozen seconds to load and fire a single bullet. Now, even at the lower-end parts of the gun market, you can get guns that shoot several dozen bullets in a dozen seconds. As your technology advances, you are going to need to change your laws.

[@Anon54387]

Technology changes therefore laws must be changed. That's a non sequitur.

[@joeprice3878]

Just How on Earth do they not change anything is just baffling

[@crohno]

Its not a tragedy, its the logical conclusion of stupid laws made by greed with complete disregard of humanity

[@aloysius260500]

This is similiar to the plot of a movie

[@leopheard]

So, he passed the background checks already to buy all those guns? What's stupid about that? They'll always be stupid if they allow guns to be legal to sell. I for one, do not think criminals would hand them back in. Not to mention self-defence when there's a difference in size. I'm a huge dude, what is some tiny woman going to do against me? Hope I finish quickly and don't murder her?

[@Ryan-ce4yr]

And our (Australian) current laws surrounding guns aren't stupid?

[@ciaranw128]

Kade no it's because Mexico isn't as rich as the US. Why would criminals hand guns in yeh your right but that's why you have armed police that can clear a area and take the guns. At least you have more of a chance at defending yourself if there are no guns.

[@Sup-rh4eu]

"Guns don't kill people, people do" Me: *WHO'S HOLDING THE GUN A FUCKING GIRAFFE?!*

[@LilMizRandom09]

I want to visit America again but I'm legitimately worried about the guns. Not going back till they sort their shit out.

[@jayjasperjp]

WarmMilk never gonna happen

[@fritzworley6316]

Victoria was right on the money about us. Guns and the right to have them are so ingrained in our culture that you will never see a gun free America. Its just not gonna happen. I got my first gun at 8 years old and have been shooting ever since. That probably sounds crazy to anyone from outside the US, but its totally normal here. I dont know anybody that dosent at least own a handgun of some type.

[@gititgiitit5450]

In a video there's two singularly shots moments apart. The gunman allegedly shot himself with a hand gun. So how did he manage to blow his head of and and then say hey wait this isn't good enough and shoot again

[@Miko_Jones]

Maybe the SECOND shot was the one that "Blew his head of"(sic)

[@willhardaway7564]

Since the rest of the world erroneously believes everyone here has access to automatic weapons we'll start there. As it turns out, to legally own an automatic weapon here you have to have a Title 3 tax stamp for each weapon (or each restricted part), and each compatible addition like a supressor. To get a stamp there's a minimum of a six month wait, $200 for the stamp, and an average starting price of about $15,000 for the firearm itself or about $2,000 for a supressor. Having a tax stamp means the ATF can come to your home or business to check on your ability to be responsible with those restricted firearms without prior notice, and if you fail to meet any of their criteria your tax stamp(s) is/are revoked and your weapons and other class 3 items are confiscated on the spot. Tax stamps are not transferrable - each person has to apply for a stamp for each individual item on the class 3 list each time a transfer occurs. I'm not sure where Europeans/Auatralians get this notion that all Americans are owners of automatic firearms either, but I am inclined to believe that it's ignorance on their part since they have little first-hand knowledge of firearms themselves, no first-hand knowledge of current American gun laws, and no way to objectively learn about either one. Automatic weapons are one of the most restricted items in this country and, furthermore, the cost alone is enough to prohibit most people from ever owning them. The high prices for those weapons aren't arbitrarily set, it's a supply and demand issue. There is a relatively low number of automatic weapons available to private citizens here. You can't go to any gun shop and pull a machine gun off the rack as if you're shopping for new shoes or a gallon of milk. The original National Firearms Act of 1934 restricted ownership of automatic firearms and instituted a registration for them, the 1968 bill banned the importation of automatic weapons from other countries, and the 1986 legislation eliminated the civilian ownership of any automatic weapons or pertinent internal parts manufactured after that year. Essentially the number of automatic weapons available to civilians is dwindling because no parts are available to keep the current supply operational, and no new weapons are ever added to the list of available firearms. Everyone cites Australia's gun ban as the epitome of firearms legislation, but there are a few misnomers about it. The ban caused 50% of gun owning Australian households to turn over their firearms, but it only accounted for about 20% of the total firearms in that country. So that tells us two things: the people with lots of guns aren't the ones to most likely go out and indiscriminately kill other people, and there are a lot of illegal firearms in Australia that the ban can't stop (although the ban is what created them). Some people refused to turn their firearms over since they wouldn't meet the standards to keep them under the new law. By standards of ownership I mean that, if you want to own a firearm in Australia the Australian government (police or the courts) is the only entity able to determine if you have a "genuine reason" to possess firearms and there's no set standard, it's an arbitrary decision. That's not how things work in America. To the chagrin of the average liberal, Americans aren't treated like children by our government and we're held responsible for the decisions we're allowed to make of our own accord. Additionally, the crime statistics from Australia don't show that the ban has been worthwhile in stopping crime. The ban was instituted after the Port Arthur shooting in 1996 and since then, even though the number has dropped, mass shootings haven't been eliminated (they were low enough in number to be nearly statistically irrelevant even before the ban). People, like the cast of The Last Leg in this case, like to imply that the number of mass shootings in America is exponentially greater than that of any other country, but our rate of overall mass killings is still less than that of pre-ban Australia based on population size alone. We have 322 million people here, about 13 times greater than Australia, yet their crimes rates for things like mass murder, rape, and domestic violence surpass the rates in America. It stands to reason that with sweeping gun legislation like Australia's our rate of shootings in America would be higher, but it's a moot point when Australia hasn't eliminated shootings, and other crime stats have increased in light of the gun ban. The mass murder rate in Australia hasn't decreased, the choice of weapon has simply changed, yet all anyone ever hears is that mass shootings have been eliminated. That would be all fine and good if it were true, but when it comes at the expense of women being able to protect themselves from rape, people being able to protect themselves from domestic violence, and people being able to protect themselves from those with murderous intent, is it worth it? The argument from the pro-gun side in the US is that gun-free zones don't do anything to prevent crime because it gives people a place to commit crimes unfettered, without fear of repercussion from law-abiding gun owners. Sadly that holds true when looking at it on a larger scale, like the entire country of Australia. Most importantly, why are any of you foreign twats even worried about laws in America that have no impact on you, and that you have no first hand experience dealing with? Did you see a bunch of us jumping on the Brexit bandwagon or telling you how shitty of an idea it is just so you can keep some semblance of your national identity? Or did you see us getting up in arms over Australia's decision to overturn government funding of coal mines even though it goes directly against clean energy initiatives and international accords? You didn't because those aren't any of our concern and there's no need for us to spout our half-assed opinions about them. Regardless, common sense hasn't stopped you from telling us why we're so wrong in our desire to see our "inalienable rights" upheld. You seem to think that gun laws are the epitome of modern intellectualism, but I can be fairly certain that you haven't been to places like Detroit, Chicago, and East LA where sweeping firearm legislation has failed tremendously. You have it in your minds that everyone has to follow your lead, but if that were the case we'd all be speaking German or Japanese right now. If you don't like how we do things, and the laws that we have aren't to your liking, then don't come over for a visit. I promise we'll be ok without you. Edit: I noticed talk of background checks and the need for them. We have background checks. When purchasing firearms from a licensed dealer they are federally mandated checks and they apply to everyone. Different states have slightly different laws such as mandatory waiting periods that range from one to three days between the time of the check and actually being able to purchase the firearm, but the background checks are non-negotiable. There's a rumor that keeps getting passed around as fact involving a "gun show loophole", but that's an outright fabrication at best. As the rumor goes, you can buy any firearms without a background check at a gun show. That's not at all true because dealers are still required to immediately initiate a background check no matyer where the sale takes place. For private sale between individuals the same standard federal transfer/background check is required, though it's harder for the government to prove a sale happened without it. The law also states that firearms manufactured prior to 1899, or reproductions of such firearms, are considered antiques and do not require a federal transfer to be initiated. To be clear that means that muzzleloading and cap-and-ball firearms, etc. do not require background checks because of their inherent lack of speed. The only other notable exception is an estate selling firearms at auction. From the ATF: "Persons who conduct estate-type auctions at which the auctioneer assists the estate in selling the estate's firearms, and the firearms are possessed and transferred by the estate, do not require a Federal firearms license". The onus is still on the private seller to get a background check done unless the sale can be traced through auction records of an unlicensed third-party seller.

[@ratofvengence]

"Everyone cites Australia's gun ban as the epitome of firearms legislation" It's hard to take your wall of text seriously when you don't seem to know the difference between restrictions and a ban. "The ban caused 50% of gun owning Australian households to turn over their firearms, but it only accounted for about 20% of the total firearms in that country." that's because most guns here are rifles or shotguns, and most of them weren't restricted, especially for farmers etc. We still have hunting, gun clubs, sporting shooters etc. "That's not how things work in America" And you have nearly quintuple our homicide rate... "The ban was instituted after the Port Arthur shooting in 1996 and since then, even though the number has dropped, mass shootings haven't been eliminated" Still not a ban. We had 13 shooting massacres (commonly defined by 4 or more dead in a public place, not including the shooter) in 18 years, and although that's nothing compared to the US, we acted on it. We have had none since. "when it comes at the expense of women being able to protect themselves from rape" I'd like to see your evidence it protects against rape more than enables rapists in the US. Aside from that, in the US far more wives are murdered by husbands than the reverse (as here), and 70% of US homicides are shootings compared to 13% here. Again, any evidence guns help? "I can be fairly certain that you haven't been to places like Detroit, Chicago, and East LA where sweeping firearm legislation has failed tremendously." The legislation was in response to horrific gun crime. You have cause and effect the wrong way around. Of course localised bans aren't effective when a 20 minute drive you can by a gun from another juristiction. Most US states don't require ANY background check for private purchases. Incidentally, the worst city for homicide rate by far in the US is St Louis, where guns are effectively unrestricted. Why did you leave that one out? "We have background checks." Most US states don't require ANY background check for private purchases. "For private sale between individuals the same standard federal transfer/background check is required" Not in most states.

[@willhardaway7564]

ratman Can't respond to all of it at the moment because I don't have time to cite sources for you right this minute, but I do have these few handy. "Have had none since". The Hunt Family, 9 September 2014. The only one to meet your stated criteria, but not the only instance of multiple murders by one person with a gun since 1996. You stated three times that most states don't have background checks. Eight states require state issued licenses, but all states are required to do background checks. I'd like to know your source that says otherwise. Please tell me it's the Gifford Law Center website because I know from personal experience that site has incorrect information regarding background checks for at least four states. The legislation in Australia outlawed semi-automatic firearm ownership for all but three types of citizens that are not firearms safety officers, firearms manufacturers, firearms dealers or law enforcement, they are: professional shooters, farm workers, and collectors. I will find sources for you regarding the breakdown of gun crimes and the use of guns for self-defense in the US when I have a few spare minutes.

[@ratofvengence]

"Can't respond to all of it at the moment because I don't have time to cite sources for you right this minute" No rush, there's more important things than arguing on the interwebz. I'm just having a break from marking papers :/ "The Hunt Family" Murder/suicide, not a shooting massacre unless you are using a different definition? Meanwhile, according to the FBI, active shooter incidents in the US are ever increasing. "all states are required to do background checks." Federal law doesn't require background checks for private sales. There are several sites (including Gifford) that list them, this one is pretty straight forward; consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/private-gun-sale-laws-by-state.html "The legislation in Australia outlawed semi-automatic firearm ownership for all but three types of citizens" And that is very different to a 'gun ban' as you called it.

[@cahillgreg]

'marking papers' cringe

[@Daktangle]

The actual reason the 2nd amendmant exists is way more sinister. It was a joint thing to allow the populace to be armed in well trained militias rather than an army as those are expensive, and to allow slave catchers to carry them.

[@tjjames9846]

@Meoshi - *2nd amendment

[@Daktangle]

@@tjjames9846 Oop, yes, thank you. Editing my post.

[@dopplar]

I mostly agree with what has been said in this vid there is one thing that I would like to push back on. So here's the push back, Americans are not fundamentally different, some of us are for sure but there are many who do want real gun control. There is even a growing number who wish to go the way Australia did after Port Arthur. The unfortunate bit is that there is a lot of uncritical thought here (kind of seems like it is one of our biggest exports). When the persons in the vid talked about the 2nd ammendment there is a some misinformation there (which may come as no surprise). I am aware that those in this vid are most likely aware that the 2nd ammendment is really focused on there being a well armed militia. There is more to the story and it has to do with the NRA and what the NRA has lobbied for; you see, a couple of years ago some NRA sponsored congressmen reinterpreted some parts of the 2nd ammendment in such a way that was favorable to gun manufacturers. Still overall there are many ignorant and foolish people especially when it comes to understanding the difference between fact and fiction.

[@ai6600]

A bbq a shark attack 😂🇦🇺❤️

[@MultiVince95]

Nice

[@GorinRedspear]

I think there's guns, and then there's guns. I can understand you wanting a hunting rifle. I can even understand wanting a gun for self defence. But unless you're going to defend against a zombie apocalypse, you do not need war weapons!

[@slamblamboozled1245]

Frederik Good thing that assault rifles(used by every military) are by and large illegal to own in the US and have never been used in a mass shooting. You're trying to undermine US gun laws but you're actually supporting them.

[@thehellyousay]

You need the weapon because you want to kill as many unarmed unsuspecting strangers as you fucking well can before the trained murderers known as cops show up to show everyone how it's really done.

[@freemanedwards5663]

Sorry

[@sarahnorton5299]

Not all Americans romanticize guns. 95% of the population wants stricter gun laws. And dare I say the majority of us want guns completely taken away but cannot express this opinion for fear of being labeled a traitor or snowflake or unpatriotic. It’s funny how superior these comics think they are compared to their American cousins. I didn’t ask to be born here. I wasn’t involved in the writing of the constitution and I am definitely not involved in the gun culture you see here. Most of us feel helpless because no matter how much we want change until we legal bribes out of Congress we will never see anything done. So go ahead and make fun of a nation of people who have their hands tied behind their back. Real classy.

[@MsBabylove11]

Sarah Norton well I'm glad to read from someone who has a brain bit when it comes to any mention of him control coming from anyone in the UK, all you usually read is hate speech and racial comments in return, they need to understand that were just trying to impart wisdom on a problem that we have already solved successfully for many years! Now we have big plans to tackle knife crime too! Evil exists when good people sit back and do nothing! Xxx thanks for having a similar point of view and the bottle to express it x

[@sarahkinsey5434]

I am not defending the shooter in any way, but he passed all of the background checks and didn't raise any red flags with the gun store employees. What else can we do to stop people with mental issues from getting weapons if we don't know their plans?

[@brendanjosephmorris2436]

Sarah Kinsey that just means your background checks fucking suck

[@nicholasaslanides9703]

Some people like country music, some people don't.

[@youcandoit7494]

Ahh America, where even a 4 year old probs has a gun...

[@TakerKaneanite619]

Ban automatic guns. Enforce a law that forces everyone that owns a gun, minus the the police and soldiers, has to have a delay function on it. That way, the Americans get their guns, and mass shootings become a less frequent thing.

[@alexanderangelo7284]

Automatics are already banned. Read the NFA and FOPA

[@glazwegiangaming6332]

relevant again....

[@Thestarsandseassystem]

Yep you only have water pistols now 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫

[@dezyyree6635]

🚬

[@ryanolivr9482]

300 million guns and countless more, they will find a gun anyway

[@AlongtheFarClimbDown843]

*Put a GUN-FREE ZONE sign on your home.*

[@thelonewolf2476]

I love America tv and movies but I hate there guns laws

[@iXFarmaggedonXi]

Laws already exist: mentally ill cannot own guns, everyone must have a background check, etc. These already all exist. So please, tell me how your proposed "new" laws are actually different.

[@TheOnlyTruthJC]

You joke about that you don't understand.

[@ratofvengence]

Yet another school shooting, 17 dead this time. We understand that civilised nations don't put up with their children being shot down in their schools.

[@TheOnlyTruthJC]

Yes, and this channel will probably make a show stating that very thing while having lots of laughs. That's so very civilized. The problem is you think your better than us, but again you don't at all know us, you think you do, because your very high minded in your own eyes. Come down off your tower and be civilized.

[@ratofvengence]

Better? In this respect, yes. My nation acted to reduce the incidence of these massacres; they were rare, now they are nearly unheard of. The US has done... nothing. There are many great things about the US, but the gun fetish ain't one of them. Surely you can admit that?

[@TheOnlyTruthJC]

Until all guns are wiped from the face of the earth, including police and military in every country including the United States, Americans will not give up their guns. People here don't trust their government, nor other governments enough to lay down their guns.

[@ratofvengence]

"People here don't trust their government, nor other governments enough to lay down their guns." Tell me how armed citizens has stopped the US govt. from doing ANYTHING. Tell me which nation you fear will invade the US? Invasion hasn't been a realistic threat since the early 1800's...

[@Muahaha651]

Prime example of EU not knowing anything as usual

[@JakobVirgil]

She is wrong the american love of gun is rooted not in romanticism but like a lot of american things racism.

[@JakobVirgil]

Most of the mass shooters have been white men. Are you claiming black folks make them do it?

[@hansgruber1686]

Gun laws are not the problem, the problems is the american mentality. Switzerland has a lot of full-auto-assaultrifles in the hands of its citizens but it is a really safe country. The problem are the people using guns not the guns and there america needs to look, to see why there is still so many people thinking that the wyatt earp "i solve my problems with my gun" approach is a good idea.

[@shadenox8164]

The problem with the Switzerland example is that they still only have about a quarter of the gun ownership rate that the US does and a good portion of that is due to an old program where military personnel are issued a firearm they may choose to keep at home. While their laws are looser than some countries they are much tighter than the US laws, for example concealed carry permits are rare to be approved for. You also have to apply for a weapons acquisition permit before purchasing a gun, which requires a background check you can also be disqualified due to mental health. You also need your weapons acquisition permit when buying ammo and can only buy ammo for guns you own. To carry a gun in public you need a carry permit, not to be confused with the rarer concealed carry permit in addition to your weapons acquisition permit. You also need to provide a reason of why you need the gun for protection and what the specified danger is. Your reason has to be plausible. These permits are mostly owned by people working security, even military personnel may not have one. When transporting a gun like say in moving, ammo has to be seperated from the guns and you have to take the guns directly to the new location, you aren't supposed to stop and get a coffee for example. This rule also applies to military personnel. These rules are also at a federal level meaning they're uniform across the country and that's just the basics. So yes, US laws could be tighter while still allowing gun ownership.

[@leopheard]

Look at the Czech Republic. Lots of guns, a right to carry a gun for self-defence as well as a knife, etc. still despite this, LESS murder than the UK and most of Europe. Totally destroys the more guns = more death argument. And those who misuse guns in the USA aren't Wyatt Earp types, but the badazz gangsta rapper types who solve their gang and drug wars with illegally held/stolen guns.

[@robertmacphee5]

Also in Switzerland it costs thousands of francs to get a magazine worth of rounds. Which significantly changes matters

[@hansgruber1686]

afaik their army round is the 5,6 × 45 mm or .223 round, 50 of those cost 21 francs.

[@AmesLovesCheese]

"THE AST EG" ??

[@kurtrg9301]

Mairwen Perenon I did notice that, I just thought the l’s were quite thin

[@Julia-hs7vh]

Mairwen Perenon This will explain the missing letters kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqC1fKiug9Rprts

[@JA-hc4vs]

Well...I am a "yankee" I live in California and I personally own 4 guns: .45 pistol 12 gauge shotgun .22 Winchester hunting rifle .308 mossberg MVP FLEX hunting rifle W/scope .when i was old enough to fire a weapon my dad and mom took me to a gun range and taught me how to shoot responsibly and safely.they taught me to RESPECT the gun and that it was NOT a toy. it's only when mentally unstable people or people who weren't taught to respect guns get there hands on guns is when it turns bad. and there is a background checks in place for every weapon sold. Me and my guns haven't committed one crime and they never will..the only time i'll kill somebody is if someone breaks into my house.

[@ratofvengence]

"it's only when mentally unstable people or people who weren't taught to respect guns get there hands on guns is when it turns bad." Or criminals, or the average Joe who loses his cool after a really bad day, or the kid who plays with dad's gun etc etc. "there is a background checks in place for every weapon sold." There should be, but there isn't. In most states it's perfectly legal to privately sell a gun with no checks whatsoever. "Me and my guns haven't committed one crime and they never will." And trained, licensed people should still be allowed to have their guns. It's not them that's the main problem.

[@TheFunkystewie]

Well put by victoria, better put than josh and alex who just made an unintelligent joke

[@alexhenkell-malespin6585]

This guy is so obtuse

[@margaretsmart1280]

Still, at least they know how to punctuate their posts, don't they?

[@alexhenkell-malespin6585]

Yeah I know your one of those people who can't win/participate in a debate.

[@margaretsmart1280]

Did you mean "you're"? Just checking!

[@alexhenkell-malespin6585]

fuck you lad , do you also like you own comment as well?

[@studmalexy]

before even watching this clip..let me guessit will go something like this........blame Trump,,,blame Trump...blame NRA.......GUN CONTROL GUN CONTROL GUN CONTROL.......virtue signalling, virtue signalling, virtue signalling......................thank you Channel 4 for your original and edgy content.

[@mastermill79]

studmalexy Back to Breitbart with you...

[@LonewolfGaming1]

Yes guns kill people, but when you’re looking for a self-defence tool that’s very much appropriate and not at all immoral. The overwhelming majority of US gun owners are responsible people who enjoy guns for sport or get some sense of comfort from owning/carrying them. Why do you take so much pleasure in attacking them and conflating their legal ownership with mass murder!? I’m not ignoring the mass shootings, just pointing out that the deaths of those people have very little to do with the average American’s experience with guns. As a Briton myself I recognise that most Europeans actually have quite dissimilar values to those of Americans. We have broadly lost our strong sense of cultural self-preservation, and freedom of speech is no longer absolute. If this is the way the majority of people want to go then so be it, we will be poorer for it, but let’s not drag America down with us.

[@unbeatablesniper16]

"Get a sense of comfort from carrying them" That right there is your problem. You can't even go to the shop for a can of soda without carrying a lethal weapon with extra magazines. Have you ever shot somebody yourself? Have you ever been in a life & death situation which called for a gun? Guns don't protect people as efficiently as you want to believe. 26... Twenty six, people died in a Texas church BEFORE anybody was able to get their own gun out and fight back. Guns really worked well in "defending" those 26 victims, didn't they? If a killer wanted to shoot you, you would almost NEVER be able to react in time. Especially if they had a quick-firing weapon, reducing the chance of them missing you.

[@williamgrant120]

Pro N.R.A.

[@nibblebaby]

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." is a quote by Isoroku Yamamoto, How many European countries were gun free before Hitler invaded them? Americans are not afraid of the Brits coming, we have learned from other countries mistakes and will not repeat them,. Imagine how WW2 would have been if the citizens in other countries were armed. Which country did have an armed citizenry preWW2, was it Switzerland? That country was not invaded, hmm I wonder why.

[@exploringwithlarry4140]

nibblebaby that's the reason Japan. Did not invade America😃🔫

[@penhaligon2]

Switzerland would've been a force to be reckoned with as they used conscription and could muster a force 500,000+ strong in a short period of time. Switzerland was also a good middle man between Germany and the world econemy. Nazi tanks would've been rendered almsot useless in the Swiss terrain. Hitler also didn't invade Sweden, it would've been a pointless. That is why the country was not invaded, civilian gun ownership was not the reason. The US military is the strongest in the world if a country were to invade you not it would not be a war fought on the streets with the civillians fighting back with their own personal weapons. I understand your logic and it does make sense however it is just incorrect please educate yourself.

[@nibblebaby]

You just proved my point.

[@nibblebaby]

1911 - Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 - 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians. 1929 - Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 - 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians. 1935 - China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 - 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese. 1938 - Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 - 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews. 1956 - Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 - 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people. 1964 - Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 - 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians. 1970 - Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 - 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

[@exploringwithlarry4140]

nibblebaby Nice🔫🇺🇸

[@josephcostello837]

Grr ranting pre-prepared lines from an autocue.

[@robbiemccann8970]

That's how basically all TV works. Ad libbing that sort of thing is near impossible, even for a stand up comedian. News is read of an autocue, during panel shows they read questions off cue cards, stand up comedy is a rehearsed routine, very little television is actually improvised on the spot because its really hard to do it consistently and in a way that's entertaining.

[@Bumblybee256]

you can't call it terrorism if you don't know the motive

[@SuperEvilC]

AMERICA HAS THE 2nd Amendment for a reason!! AND the 2nd Amendment IS NOT about hunting rifles!!

[@nitaigauranga3849]

"Hello, 50 people were murdered we're going to make some jokes about it!" Stay classy channel 4. Not OK. mmmmm!

[@dagreeno]

Nitai Gauranga where are the jokes about murdered people exactly?

[@HMgamingEXP14HUW]

Nitai Gauranga you’re a, you’re a fucking idiot

[@ari-tz8oc]

Their trying to make the situation lighter. They aren't mocking the victims.

[@Outland9000]

Normally I like this show but this was just bloody stupid.