Adam Returns As A Demon Sinner At The Hotel?! - Hazbin Hotel Season 2

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@Jefflandshark-o1b
@Jefflandshark-o1b 11 ай бұрын
I’m just imagining Adam knocking on the door, Charlie opens it, says no and shuts the door right on his face.
@nyrhine9664
@nyrhine9664 11 ай бұрын
“Hell… oo” -Adam
@Sh4r1n4X
@Sh4r1n4X 11 ай бұрын
Would it be something 😂
@thepuppetmarionette6713
@thepuppetmarionette6713 11 ай бұрын
Adam:What up party peo- Charlie:No *slams door*
@Kiw1_Kat
@Kiw1_Kat 11 ай бұрын
Sadly charlie is too nice for that:( But i hope with all my heart it happens tho
@therealCaptain_Whales
@therealCaptain_Whales 11 ай бұрын
I hope it’ll be like the pilot with Alastor.
@edwwi
@edwwi 11 ай бұрын
Imagine Lucifer singing Hell is forever reprise to Adam, that would be so satisfying "Cuz Hell is forever just in case you forgot, blew your chance to behave better now youre down here with us,"
@BlooMonkiMan
@BlooMonkiMan 11 ай бұрын
"You said rules are black and white, why are you tryin' to fight it? You will burn for your life 'til they finish Niff's job."
@-snowiethebunny-
@-snowiethebunny- 11 ай бұрын
YES.
@Rae.Harper
@Rae.Harper 11 ай бұрын
If anyone it would be Charlie and Vaggie singing it, Vaggie looking pissed like “like fuck you staying here” and Charlie being torn between being smug because he deserves it and her wanting the help him be better.
@animebrat76
@animebrat76 11 ай бұрын
@@BlooMonkiMan doesn’t sound like something he’d sing… Maybe vaggie… or husk.
@PresXsure
@PresXsure 11 ай бұрын
​@@animebrat76 it would likely be charlie and luci or vaggie and charlie
@matthewcaughey8898
@matthewcaughey8898 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see Alastor come back and find Adam in the hotel. I think Alastor would find the irony absolutely hilarious and would take every opportunity to taunt Adam for his actions, knowing Adam couldn’t do anything about it if he wanted any chance as redemption
@KyrieChii
@KyrieChii 11 ай бұрын
And it looks like Lucifer will be staying there as well, so.. Adam would be in an unenviable position then for sure. Alastor can only accomplish so much getting under Lucifer's skin (as he can't match him on a power level), so if Adam was there, he'd be a perfect alternative source of 'entertainment' for Alastor xD
@y2nzzuu
@y2nzzuu 11 ай бұрын
@@KyrieChii fun fact is that Alastor can actually match Lucifers power level just based on demonic power not angelic power cuz yknow Alastor is a demon not a fallen angel
@SamusKnight2K
@SamusKnight2K 11 ай бұрын
​@@y2nzzuu Is there a source for this? Because I doubt his power can rival Lucifer's. He took one hit from Adam and was almost killed. Lucifer wiped the floor with Adam and if Alastor couldn't defeat him then he stands no chance against the King of Hell. Now if he somehow breaks out of his contract and absorbs the power of someone like Charlie then he'd have a shot.
@y2nzzuu
@y2nzzuu 11 ай бұрын
@@SamusKnight2K I agree with that last part but the thing why Alastor lost against Adam is because duh he's an angel, and demons are weaker to angels. Lucifer however is a fallen angel, don't know if it still applies to him but Alastor got hit with Adams holy guitar (?) while Lucifer fought Adam in a fist fight
@zeleniatdq
@zeleniatdq 11 ай бұрын
My sadistic side would enjoy every moment if it 😂 I Love seeing people/characters get what they deserve 😌
@ewanowak6175
@ewanowak6175 11 ай бұрын
Honestly I want to see someone sing ‘it starts with sorry’ then Charlie punching him in the face
@jaymeecastro9832
@jaymeecastro9832 11 ай бұрын
Me too LOL
@gokuballlegends5
@gokuballlegends5 11 ай бұрын
I imagine it to be something like: Angel Dust: "but I thought ya said it starts with sorry?" Charlie: "eeeeehhhh..." **vaggie socks adam straight through the face**
@paruparupopVA
@paruparupopVA 11 ай бұрын
It's like in the first trolls movie where it's like "...HE'S SELLING US OUT !!" *Starts choking him* OMG BRANCH NO- *Release him.* AUGH.. Huuhh... thank you Poppy! *inhales* ...I'm selling you out .... *Starts choking him after.* "OMG POPPY WAIT-"
@Rae.Harper
@Rae.Harper 11 ай бұрын
“It starts with sorry…” *Punches* “Sorry!”
@Zivi.3
@Zivi.3 11 ай бұрын
IT SHOULD BE SIR PETENTUIS CHANGE MY MIND
@nightmarenightox9188
@nightmarenightox9188 11 ай бұрын
I saw this comment on another video (I'm not claiming as original) Sir Pentious actually completed Adam's checklist if you take a closer look -Act selfless (He was kind to his friends, admitted his mistakes, & made efforts to right his wrongs) -Don't steal (He tore Alastor's coat but later returned it to him with an apology) -Stick it to the man (Standing up against Adam despite dying)
@r4di0_ang3l-v6
@r4di0_ang3l-v6 11 ай бұрын
That's a very good point and didn't realize until I read this comment
@DjmatrixEvolution
@DjmatrixEvolution 11 ай бұрын
He didn’t steal anything though
@wrappedaroundmyfinger
@wrappedaroundmyfinger 11 ай бұрын
He also sacrificed himself for everyone unintentionally
@reaper6830
@reaper6830 11 ай бұрын
​@@DjmatrixEvolutionhe technically stole a chunk off of Alastor's coat
@DjmatrixEvolution
@DjmatrixEvolution 11 ай бұрын
@@reaper6830 right
@grzegorzmizerski4187
@grzegorzmizerski4187 11 ай бұрын
I think that the reason Angel Dust didn't entered Heaven and become a winner angel, despite his character development is because he's bound to Hell by Valentino's soul deal. Sir Pentious wasn't (apparently) bound by the contract of any overlord when Adam blasted him, so he remanifested in Heaven as an angel. If Angel wants to get into Heaven, he has to find a way to break his deal with Valentino. But that is apparently an impossible task. Luckily when it comes to Heaven and Hell, nothing is impossible. As an overlord himself Alastor may know how to render Angel's deal with Valentino null and void. So he may help... but not for free.
@Adambon13
@Adambon13 11 ай бұрын
My money is on Husk buying/winning Angel's soul from Valentino.
@grzegorzmizerski4187
@grzegorzmizerski4187 11 ай бұрын
@@Adambon13 But what would Husk bet? He already sold his soul to Alastor so...
@CarterNewton-j5o
@CarterNewton-j5o 11 ай бұрын
well the thing is Sir pentious only went to heaven because he was killed by Adam. If he had survived then he wouldn't be immediately summoned to heaven. If Angel actually changed and then died, then I'm sure he would go to heaven too
@anthonyjohnson4642
@anthonyjohnson4642 11 ай бұрын
Info about alastor espially how alastor is a puppet to someone​@@grzegorzmizerski4187
@fantasy-writing-v5z
@fantasy-writing-v5z 11 ай бұрын
@@CarterNewton-j5o I still think Sir Pentious ascended right before Adam blasted him
@UmisTsukishiro00
@UmisTsukishiro00 11 ай бұрын
I want to see more of Adam because he's the quickest path to learning the fate of his sons. Where Abel and Cain (maybe Seth as well) got sorted would shine some light on how Divine Judgement operates.
@brittanyno5941
@brittanyno5941 11 ай бұрын
I think since Adam was the first human soul in heaven and Abel died before him, that would mean that Abel probably went to Hell
@UmisTsukishiro00
@UmisTsukishiro00 11 ай бұрын
@@brittanyno5941 Right, and that would raise some questions. What did mankind's first murder victim do to deserve being thrown in the same cage as Lucifer?
@brittanyno5941
@brittanyno5941 11 ай бұрын
@@UmisTsukishiro00 Pride, maybe? While not what happened in the actual bible, maybe in the HH Universe version of events Abel bragged about God accepting his offering and not Cain's? He is Adam's son, after all, and maybe God decided not to be as forgiving towards him as he does when Adam dies.
@MysticAlien95
@MysticAlien95 11 ай бұрын
​@@brittanyno5941 actually, it was Abel's Brother Cain that killed him, and in the Bible, if I remember correctly, I think that Cain did go to Hell because he both murdered his Brother Abel and he was selfish in his sacrifice to God. Abel on the other hand tried to reason with Cain and then it costed him his life.
@Deathvalleyherper
@Deathvalleyherper 11 ай бұрын
He can't. Angelic weapons kill the SOUL his soul was destroyed. Sirpentious, however, went to sacrifice himself, so he was redeemed a millisecond before getting hit by Adam's holy light.
@nerdicperson6235
@nerdicperson6235 11 ай бұрын
I have my theory, about how Pentious went to Heaven.. Remember how Carmilla adviced Vaggie to not fight for vengence or blood, but for the fear of losing those who you love? Well, Sir Pentious was attacking Adam, with the fear of losing Cherri and everyone else of his friends, before getting killed in the most unfair way possible.. I think thats at least one of the many reasons Pentious went to Heaven.
@robertfraser7943
@robertfraser7943 11 ай бұрын
Ahh, the Classic of the heroic last stand. He didn't do it for the glory or for riches, he did it to protect those that needed his help. That is one of the most noble and glorious ways to die.
@XianAsherGaming
@XianAsherGaming 9 ай бұрын
I could see that as a possibility ngl
@Beef_Chomp
@Beef_Chomp 6 ай бұрын
Self sacrificing for others is a holy move and I think Jesus would approve.
@rainshadow1844
@rainshadow1844 6 ай бұрын
I think there were a lot of little things that happened along the way that steered him toward redemption. The knowing sacrifice at the end just sealed the deal. It might have even been the biggest part, but all the rest was just as vital. In fact he never would have made that final choice if not for all the other choices he made before it throughout the season. It literally started with sorry, and by the end of episode 3 he was clearly willing to become a better person, and accept the help of the others in the Hotel to reach that end.
@feliorserapheel6539
@feliorserapheel6539 11 ай бұрын
Seeing Adam in hell would be interesting. Because he would most likely be extremely powerful, as powerful as Lilith in fact. So someone with his views and power would cause quite a change in hells hierarchy. And I don’t see any overlord willingly trying to challenge or attempt to kill him, after he nearly killed Alastor with one hit
@mihile4631
@mihile4631 10 ай бұрын
I agree he'll be pretty powerful as a demon, but certainly not as powerful as Lilith. Lilith is the first demon in existence, queen of hell, and second to none but Lucifer. She could trash one of the Seven Deadly Sins if she wished to. And Adam wasn't even able to land a single hit on Lucifer. I doubt his power is equal to even that of a Seraphim. If my theory is correct, he isn't even equal to a one of the Sins. At best, he's between the Ars Goetia and the Seven Deadly Sins.
@tami7992
@tami7992 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@mihile4631 And we have to keep in mind that angels are generally much more powerful than demons and despite that Adam still couldn't land a hit on Lucifer
@kaiser_yeistic
@kaiser_yeistic 10 ай бұрын
​@@tami7992but lucifer isn't a normal demon tho, he is a fallen angel. A fallen but still an angel
@Misdrex
@Misdrex 8 ай бұрын
I feel like if Adam was a problem in hell that Lucifer would put a stop to that.
@thedeathscape8619
@thedeathscape8619 11 ай бұрын
Something I find interesting is many times in the Bible it's mentioned that God likes to test people. And I like what you brought up about hell maybe being a place That's not necessarily permanent but rather a place to overcome.
@Deathvalleyherper
@Deathvalleyherper 11 ай бұрын
I think this too, like an unlimited time re-test but under shittier conditions with lots more opportunities to be seduced by vice and sin.
@youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022
@youtubeuserremainsanonymou9022 10 ай бұрын
agreed I feel like you can have endless unlives, but if you become particularly upstanding in one and it ends you get the chance to leave hell. It is harder to fail out of heaven, but the cherubs totally did in helluvaboss
@EclypseXx
@EclypseXx 9 ай бұрын
as a Christian myself, that is a really good thought. In the Dead Sea Scrolls, believe it or not, it says hell isn’t forever! (Hehe, the song.. get it?) Take the Bible with a grain of salt because King James used religion to corrupt, manipulate, and control. A lot of the KJV is corrupt, including most of the English versions.. Only the prophecies, from both the Old and New Testaments, Psalms, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Revelation are viable. It also says nothing on homosexuality as well, food for thought.
@brookelynnenewcomer943
@brookelynnenewcomer943 7 ай бұрын
It would explain why the bible was constantly be rewritten. Especially with how many verses were taken out.
@matthewboyd68
@matthewboyd68 3 ай бұрын
@@EclypseXx Plus the part in Leviticus can be translated to Pedophilia which genuinely IS an abomination.
@p3chv0gel22
@p3chv0gel22 10 ай бұрын
Adam in hell could also server the narrative point to give Charlie someone at the hotel, who is genuinly beyond redemption. Other demons, that most of us would consider unredeemable (looking at you, Val...) don't have a reason to stay at the hotel. But having Adam be there and Charlie unable to redem him might let to a lot of character development with her
@w1nther930
@w1nther930 8 ай бұрын
Besides, now she'd have one who would ACTUALLY try for redemption. Like, he has actual redemption to do, he didn't start in hell, he went from heaven to hell
@Porterpotty34
@Porterpotty34 8 ай бұрын
I think it would be good to see more funny Adam stuff he’s a funny character. And I like the idea of him being obscenely, desperate for redemption
@Porterpotty34
@Porterpotty34 8 ай бұрын
Possibly after death by angelic weapon your soul is rejudged
@matthewboyd68
@matthewboyd68 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Adam could argue to use the Hotel as a filter for the exorcists since the hotel will be swarmed when pent's ascent goes public, but that leaves behind the demons who refuse redemption.
@clownknowsmercy
@clownknowsmercy 11 ай бұрын
I was watching this when I realized, What if instead of going to Charlie for redemption, Adam plans to get revenge on her for sending him to hell so he teams up with the Vees, it was recently announced on a stream by Viv that the Vees are gonna be the main villains in this season, so it could be a situation where as soon as Adam realizes he is stuck in hell, He turns to getting revenge rather then traveling back up to heaven. Along with this, Adam was killed with an angelic weapon, So if angelic weapons don't permanently kill angels and simply send them to hell, Or back to heaven, Does this mean that Adam will actually have all the angels that were killed in The Show Must Go On by his side along with him in hell? If that is the case then he could most likely again, team up with the Vees and they would find him valuable. But that's just a theory, A FILM THEORY!
@fantasy-writing-v5z
@fantasy-writing-v5z 11 ай бұрын
One I think that only implies to human souls like himself, not sure if the exorcist are heaven born or not Two I think the only reason Adam was in heaven was because unlike Eve he never ate the fruit of knowledge their for never being able to comprehend or understand the difference between good and evil making him pure
@Deathvalleyherper
@Deathvalleyherper 11 ай бұрын
Adam cant re-manifest his soul was killed by an angelic weapon. He's done, just like all the sinners killed during the exterminations. Him coming back in any form would be a middle finger to how the angelic weapons work.
@OriginalAutomatonMaker
@OriginalAutomatonMaker 11 ай бұрын
if that ever is the case why would the Vees recruit Adam without his powers it would make sense the Vees want someone stronger plus if adam still had his power wouldnt he go make a portal to heaven and try to make his situation a "mistake" there are a lot of possibilities we have to think of if adam will return or not
@minnion2871
@minnion2871 11 ай бұрын
@@OriginalAutomatonMaker Maybe they would expect him to still have power?
@minnion2871
@minnion2871 11 ай бұрын
@@Deathvalleyherper Well assuming that bit of lore wasn't retconned, or that death by angelic weapon simply prevents a soul from being able to manifest under its own power, and it takes the intervention of something else like God or ROO to undo it, with most Sinners simply being too weak or unworthy to attract the attention of such powerful entities... Assuming of course that these beings do play an active role in the world of Hazbin Hotel....
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 11 ай бұрын
People saying Adam won't come back because the knife killed his soul....he was very much alive when Lute turned him over. His soul was still intact. Usually the general rule is, take the head=staying dead. It'd be more like a werewolf situation where angelic steel would kill him, but it's not an "always" solution.
@peterkottke2570
@peterkottke2570 11 ай бұрын
A bigger argument against him coming back would be that when Lute turned Adam over he was smiling. It seemed that Adam had been alive for such a long time that when faced with the end of his existence he was happy about it.
@andrewt329
@andrewt329 11 ай бұрын
@@peterkottke2570 I doubt he was happy about dying. He only smiled when he saw Lute. The one person who never left him until the very end, and that was something that let him find some semblance of peace in his death. But that just makes me want to see him come back because they're too good together to keep apart.
@lorenzovalenti4014
@lorenzovalenti4014 10 ай бұрын
I think it would be more of a situation where when he was stabbed he wasn't dead yet, but was turned into a demon before he was totally dead. With a new healthy body.
@129das
@129das 10 ай бұрын
So the real question is if the knife killed his soul or not I surely killed part of the soul but if it didn't kill all of it it is possible of him reborn.
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 10 ай бұрын
@@129dasViv did say at the time when the finale happened that Adam was "Dead but alive in some way." It's not something you'd say if you weren't planning on doing more with a character. Plus with how she's been very, very quiet with Adam definitely hints that there could be something planned. It's definitely ingenious since it's building hype like crazy.
@obsidianwolf1999
@obsidianwolf1999 11 ай бұрын
The crew loved writing Adam's character. And S2 would go about a character they loved to write
@tai7397
@tai7397 10 ай бұрын
I’m just imagining that Charlie goes to heaven again and then she sees Sir Pentieous and then gets all teary eyed and realizes that her Hazbin Hotel works.
@flaminboyhawk
@flaminboyhawk 11 ай бұрын
I hope that Adam did fall to become a Sinner and could possibly get redeemed. But it would ruin his 'Love to Hate' Character from the Show, which I think works fantastically. So if he did become a Sinner, he would most likely work against the Hotel Still just not with a Central Antagonistic Goal in Mind. HOWEVER, I really want to see a Reprise of Hell is Forever by a Redeemed Adam who, through the works of the Hotel, come back to heaven and instead works as a Guiding Angel. EDIT: Fixing some Small Terminology
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 10 ай бұрын
Flaminboy I think he will be a Nightmarish Hallucination in Charlie's nightmares and dreams where he still haunts Charlie and accuses her of being just as bad as he is and they're more alike and it's her fault Sir Pentious is dead.
@w1nther930
@w1nther930 8 ай бұрын
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Eh, I don't think so. Adam falling to hell would give a resident who SHOULD be striving for redemption. Sure, Lucifer the fallen angel too, but he's just accepted his role as king of hell. Adam was the first soul in heaven who didn't originate from heaven. Falling down from heaven to hell because of his actions is the perfect way to start a redemption arc
@KenanLaudat-tp3bp
@KenanLaudat-tp3bp 11 ай бұрын
I think one reason Adam could be in heaven is because he genuinely doesn't know that he is doing something wrong, Sera the closest thing to his mother also just condones it
@w1nther930
@w1nther930 8 ай бұрын
Ehhhh.... "Extermination is entertainment" is a pretty iredeemable line, and also "can't wait a whole year to SLAUGHTER THOSE LITTLE C*nts" But yeah, Sera just condoned his shit, but I do think she is just as bad. Look at her in the song where she says "Do what was required" when she sang about letting Adam do his thing. Like, tell me that look isn't of someone who believes they are superior and isn't deranged in some way
@entity.x
@entity.x 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure he was a decent guy in his mortal life then slowly got corrupted after he ascended
@theshadowhunterknight
@theshadowhunterknight 6 ай бұрын
@@entity.x Yeah, which is why Lute probably ended up falling in love with him or at least having respect with him. We better get a flashback of them playing Call of Duty, but Lute was better at it. So then Lute lets Adam have the KDA.
@KassidyJKA
@KassidyJKA 11 ай бұрын
If I don't see him as a demon, I will lose all hope in heaven.
@shabooth6116
@shabooth6116 10 ай бұрын
But maybe that's also something to be entertained. Could be like a whole thing, they can't give hell Adam because he's too fucked up, knows too much and they don't want the problems. Who knows, I think whatever way they go, it will be entertaining. Maybe even do like a good place situation, no one has actually been to heaven. It's all fucked.
@melissahendrick2115
@melissahendrick2115 10 ай бұрын
But it’s just a show
@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV
@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV 10 ай бұрын
I doubt he’ll go to the Hotel right away. He’s so egotistical that he probably think’s he’ll be fine on his own before having a very real and humbling wakeup call. After that he shows up at the Hotel for safety and not really believing that Charlie will give him a chance, and is shocked at how genuinely kind and compassionately she treats him. He wrestles with his desire to change and habits formed from a Millenia of being, well… (Vaggie: “A misogynistic toe-rag?”) -I was gonna say a dick, but that works too. It’d be heart warming if he ends up being one of Charlie’s biggest supporters and, after discovering just what an absente parent and wife Lilith has been to Charlie and Luci-boi, blows up on his first wife about her tendency of running away when things get hard.
@Samuel_gaming-dh7ju
@Samuel_gaming-dh7ju 9 ай бұрын
this is the best theory i have seen so far
@ryomahoshi4529
@ryomahoshi4529 9 ай бұрын
Every fanfic so far I read are like this theory and let me tell you,it would be so great if it becomes true because it would so heart warming to see
@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV
@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV 9 ай бұрын
@@ryomahoshi4529 YOU SHALL SHARE LINKS NOW, YES?!
@w1nther930
@w1nther930 8 ай бұрын
Hmm... Not bad. I do prefer him staying as an asshole mostly, but I do like the idea of him going nuts on Lillith after she first abandons him, but then doesn't even stay with the ones she abandoned him for
@sketchanimations7464
@sketchanimations7464 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Adam if he does become a sinner, he might have a huge target on his back by other sinners. He might be attacked, harassed, and become a social outcast by the other sinners because he was the one who led the Exorcists yearly genocide again Hell and their sinners. The sinners of Hell would see Adam’s new position as one of them as a chance at revenge against Adam for what he did to them and the rest of Hell. This could leave him no choice but to seek shelter at the hotel. Especially if he was being chased by a mob of Sinners wanting revenge.
@Harrypotterfan-310
@Harrypotterfan-310 11 ай бұрын
That would be a defined punishment, Adam being a sinner in hell
@clairemercer3099
@clairemercer3099 11 ай бұрын
There's one way to get into heaven, clock tower. All you need is to use the elevator and get an in with Sera.
@AngelloGomez-nh6cc
@AngelloGomez-nh6cc 11 ай бұрын
Adam is definitely coming back as a sinner
@matthewboyd68
@matthewboyd68 11 ай бұрын
he's been kicked out of paradise before.
@Sonicfan_2
@Sonicfan_2 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewboyd68 NAH
@matthewboyd68
@matthewboyd68 11 ай бұрын
@@Sonicfan_2 the beheaded exorcist was hinted to have come back as a sinner in "Welcome to Heaven" because a Blue one had a striking resemblance to an Exorcist. If she respawned as a sinner after her death then so will Adam and the other slain angels.
@fox-jake8784
@fox-jake8784 11 ай бұрын
I think Adam would swear vengeance. I mean he lived an afterlife of entitlement, and now that he's been stripped of his wings, his reputation destroyed and forced to live eternal damnation, he probably would develop an "I got nothing to lose" mentality and will probably go out of his way to destroy Charlie and everything she has.
@Dernagel
@Dernagel 9 ай бұрын
Na ich glaub wen er alles was Charlie hat zerstört Dan hat Charlie ja auch nichts mer zu verlieren das wäre Dan echt schlecht für Adam den Charlie ist dewenitiv stärker als Adam wen sie richtig sauer ist
@keyonalyles2267
@keyonalyles2267 10 ай бұрын
Totally unrelated; Demon Adam in the thumbnail tho~ Now that's a monster. Forget his mask, ain't nothin' scarier than a bad dude with a psychotic look in his eyes.
@Kikithefreaky
@Kikithefreaky 9 ай бұрын
The way Charlie didn’t know Adam’s name and said “Wait, your name is Adam? Like, Adam the first- Oooooohhh.”
@keeptv1918
@keeptv1918 9 ай бұрын
I think Adam showing up in hell makes a lot of sense especially because he’d probably be driven to the door step of the hazbin hotel just to seek refuge from the sinners who likely want to if anything take out on him the purges or annihilations I also could see Adam not giving a crap about redemption and just being there for the protection until he learns that redemption is literally possible because of sir pentious where that could then lead to a redemption arc for Adam where he actually wants to turn things around so he can go back to heaven
@amberlyrane8006
@amberlyrane8006 11 ай бұрын
Angels can 100% fall. They reference it so much in the show. Hell, Lucifer was the first fallen angel and Emily almost became the second.
@Eagle-Mit-YT-Lucas
@Eagle-Mit-YT-Lucas 9 ай бұрын
Emily Almost Became The 3rd Vaggie Also Fell
@wolves600
@wolves600 9 ай бұрын
@@Eagle-Mit-YT-Lucas actually I do not think Vaggie officially fell she just had her wings cut off preventing her form leaving
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 10 ай бұрын
Adam haunting Charlie after the events of everything that happened to her back in Season 1 is the best way to have Adam in Hazbin Hotel Season 2 if he's a Nightmarish Hallucination in Charlie's nightmares and a Nightmare Illusion hallucination caused by Charlie's Trauma and PTSD and sleep deprivation while she's awake similar to the Teen Titans episode Haunted but in its own way caused by Charlie's sleep deprivation and PTSD getting to her where he accuses Charlie of being just as bad as he is and he wears Sir Pentious like a scarf around his neck too.
@aidenshadow4020
@aidenshadow4020 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this can be a plot point, Adam goes to the hotel to return to heaven and maybe bonds with the others
@ValentinaPerez-du3mr
@ValentinaPerez-du3mr 11 ай бұрын
I swear, the same scene when Sir Pentious came to the hotel and Vaggie punching him in the face, only this time with Adam and Charlie. And when the song "It starts with sorry" starts at the scene where Vaggie and Angel say " Can't we just kill him. Shoot him and spill him blood." Charlie says "DO IT"
@zamzamhassan2985
@zamzamhassan2985 10 ай бұрын
As funny as that would be, that would go against their ideals. They can’t pick and choose who gets a second chance, they have to give everyone a shot at least once. Otherwise it would make them hypocrites. Also, I just can’t see Charlie doing that.
@mirensierraaguirre5193
@mirensierraaguirre5193 10 ай бұрын
The only reason why we would want adam to be a demon in s2 is not because he deserves to be in hell Its because the show will not be the same without his personality,jokes etc He has a lot of potential Also Finnaly he has an emotional reason to exist After eve left him Adam hided in his personality Because no one rrealy cared about him Thats why he enjoy extermination Because he tougth he had nothing to lose But when he sees Lute staying by his side no matter the condition makes him smile He realized someone actually cares for him That would be the reason to try redeem himself Just to see her again Or maybe they were already having feelings for each other but Adam wouldnt make a move because he was afraid of losing another wife
@samanthaalessandra94
@samanthaalessandra94 11 ай бұрын
I am hoping this theory is true. Niffty stabbing him just cannot be the end of his story
@LarryA.-rt7og
@LarryA.-rt7og 7 ай бұрын
okay im getting yaaaaaa
@xXTSUDORIXx
@xXTSUDORIXx 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see an Adam redemption arc! Would be interesting.
@stickmanxprimeanimations1728
@stickmanxprimeanimations1728 11 ай бұрын
This may not be the case as Adam got stabbed by Nifty with an angelic knife in the heart about 25 times
@MGR-14
@MGR-14 11 ай бұрын
But if Adam's lightning bolt was not the same as an angelic weapon, why were the others mourning his death?
@Nidhogg2688
@Nidhogg2688 11 ай бұрын
Because they *thought* it was the same thing
@129das
@129das 10 ай бұрын
@@MGR-14 They likely think angelic power is the same as a weapon.
@JaytheblueJ
@JaytheblueJ 11 ай бұрын
I hope by some unknown technicality he respawns as a demon and ends up being humbled and more mature at the Hazbin hotel
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 11 ай бұрын
It's definitely a very strong possibility he ends up going that route. Basically Chaz in Helluva Boss only he actually puts on his adult pants and acts his age since nobody's there to back up his attitude.
@V15.12
@V15.12 11 ай бұрын
I really do just hope they bring him back , he had the best song , also they way he smiled at end of his death low key made me kinda sad
@Atticus-Catnipp
@Atticus-Catnipp 11 ай бұрын
Adam would just want his luxury life in heaven again. He would never change for the better. Sometimes they're irredeemable by being irresponsible. He just wanted to exterminate hellspawn like the natural thing it is to do.
@multideltwd
@multideltwd 11 ай бұрын
That could be his reason for trying the hotel but he gets accidentally better just becaise of his surrounding and actually beong told "no" instead of basically having a omnipass on everything in Heaven.
@entity.x
@entity.x 6 ай бұрын
​@@multideltwd Not to mention, the hardship in hell will probably reminds of himself from Earth and rethink his life
@anthonyporcelli95
@anthonyporcelli95 11 ай бұрын
This is why I am so excited for season two, I can't wait to see what happens to and what they do with Adam 🤩😇👿
@alkissakoulis782
@alkissakoulis782 10 ай бұрын
I believe Charlie will find out that Adam became a sinner and despite her friends refusal she will try to help him (because she believes in second changes). Adam at first will refuse the proposal put knowing he hasn't ather way to return to heaven he will join the hotel. At the beginning he will made things difficult for Charlie and her friends but after awhile he will start seeing things differently and he'll become friends with the athers
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 10 ай бұрын
I can see that happening. Like a Deadpool kind of wisecracking antihero that acts like a jerk but really has immense issues he hides under aggression, profanity and being a jerk. But slowly allowing himself to trust others and earn his way back home.
@Jakington
@Jakington 11 ай бұрын
I doubt Adam will return because he was killed by a angelic weapon meanwhile sir Pentious was killed by a light ray so he would just re - manifest because he was not fully killed but since he proved himself worthy of heaven he re - manifested in heaven
@fantasy-writing-v5z
@fantasy-writing-v5z 11 ай бұрын
Unless he ascended right before he was vaporized
@mihile4631
@mihile4631 10 ай бұрын
It's possible that angelic steel is equal to those rays of light Adam was able to shoot out. It was clear Adam wiped Sir Pentious with one single ray. And when Pentious died like that, he didn't manifest back in Hell like most other deaths do to demons.
@KunduKids-zj1vf
@KunduKids-zj1vf 10 ай бұрын
Also it seems that he was intending a carpet bombing like affect with it implying it kills sinners as well like angelic steel
@KunduKids-zj1vf
@KunduKids-zj1vf 10 ай бұрын
As why would he use it if it only killled sinners temporarily
@TheManderBeast
@TheManderBeast 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to see Nifty become obsessive about Adam if he is hellbound. Stalk him all the time like the ultimate "bad boy".
@davethm75
@davethm75 10 ай бұрын
the number 1 seed in the tournament bracket always gets a pass the first round
@FlagshipLunatic32
@FlagshipLunatic32 10 ай бұрын
2:08 "DESTROY THAT AH-" Nifty commiting genocide
@YashVardhanPoddar-d7r
@YashVardhanPoddar-d7r 11 ай бұрын
I would not call adam vs Lucifer a fight it was more of Lucifer being bored enough to help his daughter and show adam his place
@Mari-Markus_moon
@Mari-Markus_moon 9 ай бұрын
Adam: "HELLOOoooo......" Charlie: "No. Goodbye." -Charlie if Adam came back.
@OracleOfDarkness1666
@OracleOfDarkness1666 11 ай бұрын
The lore of angelic steel is it permanently destroy the soul, pentious wasn’t killed with angelic steel but holy light which isn’t the same, Adam was stabbed with and killed by angelic steel so he can’t come back
@dawsonherrick1318
@dawsonherrick1318 11 ай бұрын
Angelic steel was designed to destroy demonic souls. While it seems to effect angels too, there is a chance that it merely kills them temporarily, but not destroy them entirely.
@andrewt329
@andrewt329 11 ай бұрын
Shouldn't holy light be way worse? It's pure holy power. Hence why everyone is convince Pentious was erased. How could some knife be worse than getting obliterated by pure angelic power even Lucifer made an effort to dodge?
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 11 ай бұрын
Adam was still alive when Lute ran to him. His soul wasn't destroyed. He was still intact. So it's very possible he can come back as a way to kick him off his high horse (i.e. boot camp. )
@zamzamhassan2985
@zamzamhassan2985 10 ай бұрын
@@andrewt329That’s literally what I’m thinking every time someone claims Adam is dead for good because of the knife.
@entity.x
@entity.x 6 ай бұрын
And angelic steel doesn't spawn outta nowhere with the power to eradicate soul permanently, they are likely made by high ranking angels aka the seraphims or just Sera herself. I read in the wiki that they are “blessed”. And Adam is directly created by seraphims or high ranked angels so his powers must be similar to their own
@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I’d be interested if they did a Iago in Aladdin 2 thing, like Adam first tries to get on Charlie’s good side to take advantage of her, but slowly begins to turn to the Demons side.
@grzegorzmizerski4187
@grzegorzmizerski4187 11 ай бұрын
I've got to be honest, I don't think Adam will come back. He was killed by an angelic weapon, which prevents regeneration and remanifestation, so he's gone for good. Unless Lute or some other villain can use some kind of dark magic ritual to resurrect him. But there are two ways Adam could appear in the next season. 1. There will be a flashback episode showcasing Lute's history as an exorcist. We might discover what she actually is - a pureblood angel who has born in Heaven or a virtuos soul from Earth that became an angel after dying as a human. We'll probably see Lute's rivarly with Vaggie before her exile. We might explore the relationship she had with Adam (while they weren't killing demons or antagonizing Charlie and her friends). I think Lute will also have a redesign in this episode. She'll have a new golden outfit similar to Adam's, and a mechanical left arm to replace the one she lost in the finale of season 1. She may also have slightly longer hair tied up in a hairbun or ponytail. She may also reveal what is her plan for revenge on Charlie and her crew for killing Adam. She will also have a new exorcist helmet similar to Adam's. 2. After all the horrible experiences in season 1, Charlie will have to deal with PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder). She'll be experiencing nightmares in which everyone dies at the hands of Adam and the exorcists. She'll act like everything is fine to not worry her father or her friends. Things get worse and she'll start seeing terrifying hallucinations. One of which could be Adam, accusing her of being just as bad as he is. The other one could be Sir Pentious blaming her for his death. Eventually the stress will be too much for her and she'll tell someone (most probably Vaggie and/or Lucifer) what's wrong. Together they'll find a way to cure Charlie's condition.
@goldentriforce29
@goldentriforce29 11 ай бұрын
Good point. But hypothetically if he was brought back as a demon it would be complete irony for him. Despite being an angel, he was just as awful as the sinners he slaughtered.
@grzegorzmizerski4187
@grzegorzmizerski4187 11 ай бұрын
@@goldentriforce29 Who knows? If Adam won't come back as a demon, maybe someone could make a fanfic about it.
@andrewt329
@andrewt329 11 ай бұрын
I fail to see how there's a difference between getting killed with an angelic weapons, and being totally erased with Holy light. Since everyone thinks Pentious is permadead, then they by all rights would work the exact same. Only the fact is that it's not as permanent as some fans have convinced themselves it is.
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 10 ай бұрын
​@@grzegorzmizerski4187 I like the second idea the most I can imagine that happening to Charlie and I can imagine her hallucinations of Adam accusing her of being just as bad as he is and they're more alike and the Sir Pentious Hallucination blaming her for his death saying it's all her fault as very Nightmarish Nightmare Fuel and Tear Jerking. I'm imagining this being very similar to the Teen Titans episode Haunted where Robin has hallucinations of Slade. I like that episode it's one of my favorite episodes of Teen Titans the difference is Charlie's hallucinations of Adam and Sir Pentious would be caused by her PTSD and Trauma not by dust or flashing lights on Adam's mask or his hologram thing. I can see her being sleep deprived from her nightmares and trying to not let her friends and dad worry about her but it eventually gets to her because she would hear Adam's voice and Sir Pentious' voice in her head startling and scaring her telling her he and her are very much alike and it's her fault he's dead and I can see her lashing out at Vaggie Angel Dust Husk and Lucifer thinking Adam is back too and her friends girlfriend and father trying to find out what's wrong with her and Emily should help as well with her friends and father too with her PTSD and try to find a way to save Charlie. The other difference between the two is that Charlie would be injured or have her clothes torn a little because she would trip falling over and hurt herself on stuff due to not seeing where she's going with just minor injuries and small tears in her clothes with her hair ruffled a little And Charlie eventually telling her friends and dad what's happening to her too This would be one of the darkest and scariest episode ideas of Hazbin Hotel too. I imagine Charlie saying this to her hallucinations of Adam I'M NOTHING LIKE YOU and her saying this to her hallucinations of Sir Pentious IT'S NOT MY FAULT.
@grzegorzmizerski4187
@grzegorzmizerski4187 10 ай бұрын
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 Glad to hear that someone agrees with me. Also I think Vox would play a role in that. After all Vivziepop confirmed that Vox will be the main villain in the second season alongside the rest of the Vees. Vox being the vengeful egomaniac he is, he might use his mind manipulation powers to trap Alastor inside a nightmarish illusion, created from his deepest fears and most painful memories. The hotel crew (particularly Charlie along with Vaggie and Angel Dust) will try to help the Radio Demon, but they end up falling into the same trap. Charlie will have to face her fears and in the end she'll finally stand up to them.
@AngelsGrace22
@AngelsGrace22 11 ай бұрын
That cut off though- “DESTROY THAT AH-“
@charlie_slvr
@charlie_slvr 5 ай бұрын
Guess what.. viv confirmed that Adam is gone. He won’t be in season 2
@caocaokungfu
@caocaokungfu 5 ай бұрын
My guess: Adam will be brought back by Lucifer, whose reason is "I gave you mercy, didn't I? It wouldn't be fair if you could just die out of it.", Adam will tell him off and try to get back to Heaven (and denied). After that he will try to find something to do, some Sinners will try to mess with him because he "looks weak" (well, he'll look human except for a demonic garb) and regret it BADLY. He will rise to the status of an overlord fast and draw the attention of the established overlords, with Alastor interested in "tormenting" by bringing him to the hotel or trying to coerce him into a deal, Vox wanting Adam's powers to one-up Alastor, and the others mostly "don't care, move on". If he does ever gets in the Hotel, it won't be immediate because everyone will "NO." him out, and Charlie won't be there because she was called for a retrial in Heaven as they might want to reconsider her offer given that recently an evidence that supports her theory has made it into Heaven and they want to find out how the selection of souls works too. There will be a song by Adam about having nowhere to belong, and it will be him trying to find somewhere to be in the Pentagram, with Lucifer joining him later and encouraging him to try the hotel again, believing in him, it will be a back and forth until it concludes with him being led back to the hotel and Lucifer giving him a nudge and reassuring smile. Except this time it is Charlie who answers the door and, despite his fear, she excitedly welcomes him in and gives reassurance.
@stanoglegit
@stanoglegit 11 ай бұрын
Adam died after being stabbed with an angelic dagger by Nifty so I don’t think we will see him return
@superdeadlyhuis
@superdeadlyhuis 11 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@federicapuliga432
@federicapuliga432 10 ай бұрын
adam's beam that killed pentious can also be considered an angelic weapon
@stanoglegit
@stanoglegit 10 ай бұрын
@@federicapuliga432 the weapon has to made of angelic steel to be affective, Adam’s beam is not an angelic weapon as we see sir pentious respawn in heaven and angelic weapons permanently kill
@drakeromero-q5n
@drakeromero-q5n 9 ай бұрын
remember the verse from you didn't know "if angels can do whatever and remain in the sky"
@gab-ws
@gab-ws 11 ай бұрын
the difference is that adam died to an angelic weapon and sr pentious died to some kind of angelic beam
@MymommyisJ
@MymommyisJ 11 ай бұрын
The beam is an angelic weapon
@villainousTCG
@villainousTCG 11 ай бұрын
​@Adamsimp777 you have one braincell and it's permanently on vacation if you think the BEAM is the same as angelic STEEL! Also id love to hear you explain how a BEAM is a weapon.
@Axel_Kasai
@Axel_Kasai 11 ай бұрын
​​​​​@AmazingAgnostic_how is it not the same thing? Adam used that same magic to make a weapon that almost killed alastor. If you're gonna say "why didn't he use the beam for every extermination" it's because he gets more entertainment from using the exorcists.
@Saintpentiousofficial
@Saintpentiousofficial 11 ай бұрын
​@@MymommyisJI mean
@Automaton237
@Automaton237 11 ай бұрын
Will the Angelic blade is most likely filled with Angelic energy which can permanently kill Sinners so it makes sense if his beam would do the same thing.​@@villainousTCG
@jaxsmitho3528
@jaxsmitho3528 10 ай бұрын
Most of the demons will hate him and Alastor will have a personal vendetta
@Chinchilla2310
@Chinchilla2310 10 ай бұрын
I feel like he’ll redeem himself. That last smile to Lute wasn’t the end.
@zen4realfightman426
@zen4realfightman426 10 ай бұрын
Now I'm not sure, but I don't think Adam can come back. He got killed by an angelic weapon which is supposed to be a permanent end to any soul
@leamykid
@leamykid 10 ай бұрын
I can imagine Adam saying: there's more LOSERS???
@rosieo5875
@rosieo5875 11 ай бұрын
If Adam went to find Lute, I would want her to reject him because she seems to be much more of an ideologue. Adam believes he’s superior because he’s the first man, but that’s basically it. Lute actually fundamentally believes in all of the ideology.
@InsertTopic
@InsertTopic 10 ай бұрын
It would be cool if someone from the hotel got redeemed in season two, and they tell Lute that Adam is at the hotel and if she doesn't hurt anyone in hell, they'll make sure to bring him to her. It would also be awesome for Pentious to visit the hotel and see everyone (especially Cherri)
@phantomqueen-p6u
@phantomqueen-p6u 8 ай бұрын
adam (at the hotels door): charlie...i- charlie: nope not in 10 million years
@mandala_effect
@mandala_effect 9 ай бұрын
Adam: 'Knocks on door' Charlie: 'Opens it' Hello- Adam: Hi I f**ked up again and wanted to come back to say sorry? Charlie: F*ck you! 'SLAM' Adam: Well worth a try...
@Aceeatspomegranates
@Aceeatspomegranates 9 ай бұрын
I can imagine Adam arriving at the hotel and they just play Hell is forever like “This you?”
@christopherh4891
@christopherh4891 9 ай бұрын
no cap i feel like theyll do a whole redemption thing were hes an asshole but ends up standing up for Angel with Val or maybe befriending Husk while slowly growing to like Charlie as a friend
@joeweber5735
@joeweber5735 3 ай бұрын
Love the theory, but one problem supposedly in the lore. If you get killed by a angelic weapon, you're permadad. So the only thing I can say is less if the writer changed the lore. That's the only way I can see Adam being in hell. Redeeming himself.
@easylivinglife6284
@easylivinglife6284 10 ай бұрын
My PERSONAL canon theory- is that the Exorcists are demons. We've been to heaven, and so far have seen EVERY single "angel" look, and no of them look like demons. Only the extermination legions do. You could say that well, its because they are technically fighting a "war" and that's just battle amour. I say that doesn't make sense, because the design speaks louder than words. So let's take a look Design saying they are angels: Wings, halo. Design they are demons: Spiked horns, sharp teeth. Here is the missing detail: Hell doesn't have "tormentors" or "torturers." The ONLY ones shown to have any sort of power in hell are the sins, royalty, and well, sinners. The sins like Mamon and Asmodeous are too preoccupied well, being the sins. the royalty hasn't been shown to really be "keepers" of the dammed, and the sinners are all to preoccupied trying to become overlords. So the massive gap in WHO does the tormenting of hell is filled by the demons ordained by heaven- remember, HELL is still part of creation, just not a creation ordained by Angels. Sera litterally tells Adam, a "sinner" by all means- both Lilith and Eve went to hell, so Adam probably followed suit- and makes a deal with Adam to do the exterminations. The other exorcists are hell-spawn turned angels, that's why they have black halos. Also, "only angelic weapons can hurt them" sounds eerily familiar to the SAME rule of needing blessing tipped rifles used for killing high level demons like the Goetia in Helluva Boss. The exorcist are HIGH level hellspawn ordered by Heaven to kill sinners. They are the torturers of hell.
@KalebTheDuck
@KalebTheDuck 6 ай бұрын
He was killed with an angelic weapon. Those things permanently kill demons, and angels. Now maybe they have a way to retcon this plot point.. But it's probably safe to say: He's not coming back.
@nevermindme111
@nevermindme111 10 ай бұрын
Everyone paints Adam in a compassion light and tries to make his character more complex (besides you so far) when Adam is EXACTLY what he seems to be. He's a misognystic, egotistical, violent, and sexually out of control human. He was the "first" man and that makes sense because that's exactly what the average man is like in real life. The writer making sure to design him this way was chef's kiss 💋
@CoffeeHype371
@CoffeeHype371 10 ай бұрын
His soul already received judgment. He died. Just like all those sinners they killed and didn’t come back (otherwise the purge wouldn’t matter) sooo he’s done.
@Mumiekage
@Mumiekage 8 ай бұрын
Adam had so much... What's the word? Ah yes... Pride.
@bloxybrosofficial100
@bloxybrosofficial100 9 ай бұрын
0:03 “uh, thanks!” Moments Before Diaster
@Cati3edits
@Cati3edits 10 ай бұрын
i ain't slipping anything, but stuff is gonna go down when I'm around
@Sleepystudios2010
@Sleepystudios2010 11 ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice that in Charlie’s flashback that the character that was supposed to be Lilith actually looked more like Eve?
@Thomas_tords1hater
@Thomas_tords1hater 8 ай бұрын
"the hotel is a place for second chances!" "NO"
@Moonysun.official
@Moonysun.official 9 ай бұрын
2:35 you TURN into What you hate When you go to hell💀
@zoonie2745
@zoonie2745 11 ай бұрын
omg its been like 4 years finally seeing a lore video literally made me emotional I cant wait for season 2
@Hunter-b3j
@Hunter-b3j 10 ай бұрын
To be honest I would love a scene similar to how Alister showed up in the pilot where Adam said hello Lucifer slammed the door Charlie opens it and every one has a gun ready and asks Charlie to move
@jacksongreen9729
@jacksongreen9729 9 ай бұрын
This is what I hope to see: the entire group rejects his desire for redemption, and he gets treated miserably by hells inhabitants, giving him a jerkass realization. Then he may sacrifice his (after) life for the group earning their mutual respect. Because as much of a villain Adam is I still like him a little.
@SFOTHFirebrand
@SFOTHFirebrand 6 ай бұрын
"You lack discipline" - Alastor Altruist
@Oliver32542
@Oliver32542 11 ай бұрын
Adam rn: I ALWAYS COME BACK, I ALWAYS COME BACK, I ALWAYS COME BA-
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 9 ай бұрын
Moon I seen a parody of both Adam and William Afton with their voices switched and it's so cool
@Oliver32542
@Oliver32542 9 ай бұрын
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 really? I wanna check that out now. Lol
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 9 ай бұрын
@@Oliver32542 Yeah I agree
@overduedart5041
@overduedart5041 10 ай бұрын
😂 That would be perfect, but knowing Charlie she probably won't say no😂
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 11 ай бұрын
Except he was spesifically killed by an angels blade. So if they want to bring him back, they also need to explain why literally none of the others killed by an angels blade didn't.
@andrewt329
@andrewt329 11 ай бұрын
I mean, it probably works the same way as Pentious. He was also killed by holy powers. I highly doubt there's some super arbitrary difference that makes getting incinerated with literal holy light less deadly than just getting stabbed with a knife. Otherwise, everyone wouldn't think Pentious was dead, and Adam wouldn't be shooting everyone with something that wouldn't kill them. If a sinner can survive erasure by being redeemed, then it's only logical a winner could lose their place in heaven and fall when killed the same way. "If angels can do whatever and remain in the sky..."
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewt329 The rules are that Angel "Weapons" destroy souls. They never said anything about holy magic/powers. That's why Pentious ended up in heaven, he was not killed by a angel weapon. It is implied angel/exterminator weapons were specifically created to destroy souls. They never said anything about angel magic being the same. We can't just assume they would have the same effect as the weapons, especially considering Pentious is proof that those powers don't destroy souls.
@andrewt329
@andrewt329 11 ай бұрын
@@jefthereaper Why do you think ANGEL weapons destroy souls? Or as Zestial called them, holy arms. Is it because they're weapons? No, that'd be kind of dumb. Maybe what makes them special is y'know, the whole ANGELIC part of it. Y'know, angelic power that the weapons are literally named after. Angelic power that Adam is shooting from his hands and wouldn't be using unless it could exterminate the people he's literally trying to exterminate. Why would Adam blast sinners and the literal King of Hell with nonleathal attacks? Lucifer is an Angel, so if Adam wanted any hope of hurting him at all, he NEEDS to be using angelic weaponry. That's the clearly established rule about angels. You say we can't just assume it works the same even though every character including Lucifer himself indicates it works the same, but you'll assume weapons permanently erase souls even though that is an assumption that is never actually stated in the show? It's a general statement taken from steams that could easily be changed.
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewt329 "You say we can't just assume it works the same even though every character including Lucifer himself indicates it works the same" Pretty sure they NEVER said or addressed that through the entire show. Angel "powers" were never even addressed. Adam just started shooting death lasers without anyone knowing they could do that. As for the why, well why would Angels posses magic powers that by their very nature destroy souls? That would be a pretty strange effect for angel magic/power. Why would Exterminator/Executioner weapons have that effect? Because they are a elite group specifically created to destroy human souls in Hell, duh. Why would they not forge weapons specifically designed for the job? if they could do the job with just their magic lasers, they would not have needed those weapons to begin with. As for the permanent erasure of souls, Vizzy commented on it somewhere. unfortunately a LOT of info about the show is not actually in the show, but on Vizzy's posts to fans questions. Sinners "reincarnate/reform" in Hell when they die, no matter how. A painful and slow process, so you can't just get out of hell by offing yourself. A Executioners blade is a permanent death (it would be pointless to do the exterminations in the first place if sinner souls would just be reincarnated/reformed a day after the exterminations.)
@Ithlir
@Ithlir 7 ай бұрын
i has theory, adam is gonna be one of the next big villains in hell, maybe even an overlord somehow, using deception about heaven to get people to make deals
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 7 ай бұрын
Actually, I heard that Vizie said that but I have no proof. I mean what I heard is that Vivienne/Vizie that The Vees will be the main viliain for season 2 (and that will we find out more about how some characters ended up in hell) and that Adam will join them. My theory about why Adam would be the Vees is with Vox hypnotizing him.
@GenuineGuitar56
@GenuineGuitar56 9 ай бұрын
adam needs to come back as an angel again. He and lute make a great duo
@ShadowMaster23199
@ShadowMaster23199 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget what alastor said to Adam he stated and I quote ""u are weaker than me because you lack discipline.""
@GhostCabinet
@GhostCabinet 11 ай бұрын
my general theory for heaven's stubbornness on redemption is because if a precedent is set that a demon can ascend, the inverse must be true and an angel can fall. and the corruption in heaven stems from angels who are afraid of being held accountable for the sinful actions they may have committed in the afterlife and being forced to fall to hell.
@DjmatrixEvolution
@DjmatrixEvolution 11 ай бұрын
I kinda imagine everyone just giving Adam to the cannibal and they would devour him like a thanksgiving turkey
@LiterallyYuji
@LiterallyYuji 6 ай бұрын
Viv confirmed he won't be returning which personally I'm happy with
@WayneTeoh-v4g
@WayneTeoh-v4g 6 ай бұрын
Viv said that Adam won’t be in s2 as in, he’s not gonna be in the hotel. He’s gonna be remain gone
@SocialistDragon
@SocialistDragon 6 ай бұрын
It's just a theory
@Wuschel1990
@Wuschel1990 11 ай бұрын
imagine Adam making a Deal with an Overlord to get some of his privileges back. Only to fail and have his soul torn apart by someone like Zestial or Alastor.
@PeachWookiee
@PeachWookiee 11 ай бұрын
I had a thought about Adam. Perhaps he entered Heaven and was okay for the first few centuries, and gradually got a swelled head. This led to the change in his attitude and made it possible for him to ultimately fall.
@zamzamhassan2985
@zamzamhassan2985 10 ай бұрын
I agree. He probably wasn’t as bad when he first entered Heaven, but they allowed him to deteriorate, and it let to his downfall.
@FlagshipLunatic32
@FlagshipLunatic32 10 ай бұрын
Wait, Adam went after the characters that were jeopardizing heavens safety (In the clowns words), never stole. And he doesn't act like other angels so he sort of stuck it to the man. hm
@cooperminion825
@cooperminion825 9 ай бұрын
I would kinda like to see Adam get a reunion with his sons. I would LOVE to hear what he was like as a dad. ESPECIALLY from Cain ("You always liked Abel more!")
@pixiewings504
@pixiewings504 8 ай бұрын
Everyone at the hotel would try to kill him the second they see him. He wouldn’t even make it to the door
@christinewhoyt
@christinewhoyt 7 ай бұрын
At least, Vox steps by distracting everyone. And using his hypnotizing powers to had Adam to their rank. Why I said that it's because I heard that Vizie/Vivienne Medrano said that The Vees
@lordalpharius5928
@lordalpharius5928 11 ай бұрын
5:24 that might be the case for human souls, but hellborn and heaven born is a different case- like Emily, Lucifer, Stolas…
@ditaidk
@ditaidk 6 ай бұрын
viziepop confirmed Adam wont be comong back 😭
@RekEStore32
@RekEStore32 10 ай бұрын
I think the big difference between Adam's death and Sir Pentious' is their reasons behind it. Both were killed by something angelic (Adam's laser blast, and Nifty's angelic knife), but Pentious' death was a sacrifice for his friends and Adams was because he wouldn't back down out of his own pride. Unless there's a clear difference between Adam's powers and angelic weapons in general. I think Adam might try to lay low ( very, very, very low) without seeking Charlie's help.
@666SaphireRose666
@666SaphireRose666 8 ай бұрын
Actually, I think it's representing when a soul willingly gives itself for the sake of another. It's similar to the contracts of hell except its the soul's choice to fight for a cause or someone else.
@neyluv
@neyluv 7 ай бұрын
I got an add when lute cussed as a blur lmao
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