The MET's Arms and Armor Department: www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/collection-areas/arms-and-armor
@markthomas6045 Жыл бұрын
Adam's face when he learns the helmet is nearly 2500 years old! Priceless!
@christopherdurham1999 Жыл бұрын
"I never thought I would see such a wonderful large bucket of pitch." "This is our SMALL bucket of pitch."
@MLeoDaalder Жыл бұрын
And then they don't show their large bucket of pitch with the work of the predecessor still attached! :(
@StonedtotheBones13 Жыл бұрын
@@MLeoDaalderhonestly you're right. Back to the met!
@hobbitdude1330 Жыл бұрын
Adam's face at 0:47 is great as he realizes just HOW old the helmet before him is
@ingelri2 Жыл бұрын
One of the things I had to accept when making armour reproductions was that I was never going to get a piece absolutely perfect, and even the masters of armouring made mistakes. For many artists, that's a hard pill to swallow. Then you start studying original pieces up close and realize how many imperfections there really are.
@evilbrat5376 Жыл бұрын
Have never done armor but do two & three point perspective drawing. When doing them I find that many times I miss the center point and have gone past point of no return you might say and can't go back except to maybe crumple and start over. Self butt kicking time but go on knowing mistake is there but realizing all artists can not create the "Perfect Piece" no matter how hard they try. Now know that those mistakes were ment to be.
@glennmorganfan9411 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the one person in my college Clay Sculpture class. She was a perfectionist and she said an old boyfriend was the one who gave her a big piece of advice. He told her "OK, You have Perfect and you have Done......You will NEVER get the two to meet so you have to choose one".
@RowanHawkins Жыл бұрын
@@glennmorganfan9411This is a common issue with software developers as well.
@harrykouwen1426 Жыл бұрын
The main skill is to make perfect imperfections; the balance in the shape.
@karonuva Жыл бұрын
A lot of the time the tiny imperfections is exactly what makes something special, in any art form.
@StormKidification Жыл бұрын
I hope this series never ends
@terrylong8894 Жыл бұрын
This is clearly Adam Savage Disney World.
@jasonscott8844 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it starts a journey down "Adam makes his own full plate armour lane"
@danielland3767 Жыл бұрын
Adam is one of the few people that gets you excited in history like it use to be as a kid
@terrylong8894 Жыл бұрын
@@danielland3767 If there’s a way to make watching paint dry interesting, Adam would find it.
Very cool. Some things don't change. Pitch bowls are used in jewelry making for this sort of thing to this day. The bit about rivet holes not being spaced perfectly sounds so familiar. Even when using multi-hole punches, somehow I can never get the holes for stitching a leather piece exactly even. I agree with Adam, knowing that professionals had issues with similar things makes me feel better about my own work.
@anonuser9367 Жыл бұрын
Having watched a lot of this series, I wondered who was enjoying it the most. At first I thought it was Adam with his frequent expressions of delight upon each new discovery. Then I thought it was us viewers delighting ourselves in Adams reactions. Then I realised its neither- it's these true craftsmen that are making direct connections with so many others- in ways that the result of their hard work placed in a display case never could. Top content all round.
@wordsinahandle Жыл бұрын
All 3. The craftsmen adam and us
@86fifty Жыл бұрын
I love these short pieces to camera from the Met, focusing on just one thing and its process, and I love seeing Adam tell the stories of HIS endeavors as a maker of prop replicas, and the official professional peeps being totally in tune with what he's saying! These always leave a smile on my face :)
@PostalTwinkie Жыл бұрын
1:09 is pure, uncontrollable, Adam excitement! My son does this EXACT same thing with his hands when he can't control his excitement! It is so damn cute at any age it seems! Biggest Tell in the World when playing cards with him.
@shadbanta14 Жыл бұрын
im loving the historical arms and armor videos because ive been looking for this exact type of content
@abbofun9022 Жыл бұрын
This Met series is truly your best ever.
@bunhelsingslegacy3549 Жыл бұрын
I've really been enjoying this series, my armourmaster made a pitch bowl, we took over his shop after he passed. And now I finally have a name for all the tools we use for repoussé work: chasing tools! A lot of ours are modified drill bits. We do all cold work though. HE did a lot of backroom looking at extand armour pieces and the stories he'd tell about what things looked like on the inside made us feel better about our misplaced hammer marks. And I miss him with every single one of these, he would have loved watching them.
@rodsprague369 Жыл бұрын
I ran into the same being able to understand something about a previous maker phenomenon when I looked at an ancient North American arrowhead. It was symmetrical, but had a subtle spiral to its shape. I told the person who handed it to me "This person had a dominant hand." I can make completely flat versions of similar styles of arrowhead because I am so dyslexic, I am completely ambidextrous and can switch hands before it gets a subtle spiral.
@a_ham Жыл бұрын
I love the picture of the Emperor Maximilian with his armorers in the background. It feels right at home in the armor conservation department at the MET!
@RoelfvanderMerwe Жыл бұрын
This series is absolutely incredible. Please don't stop!
@thegodofhellfire Жыл бұрын
These MET armor vids keep getting better and better!
@PontusWelin Жыл бұрын
I love that idea at the end there. We’re all just walking in the footsteps of those that went before us. I am going to try to change my own mindset more towards that in my work as a programmer. So when I see old code that looks strange or even bad, I’m gonna remember this. So lovely.
@paullambert4445 Жыл бұрын
I did chasing, repousse, and planishing in college. Nice to see a pitch pot again. Thanks Adam.
@-UseSoap_ Жыл бұрын
This series has been wonderful, thus far. I hope there is more to come!
@Walsfeo Жыл бұрын
This is a great series. Thanks for sharing!
@damianlz Жыл бұрын
Absolutely thank you for covering etruscan/ancient helmets!
@ducomaritiem7160 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I made a copy of the Brocas frogmouth jousting helmet for a customer. I got about 50 pictures of the original sent to me by the Royal Armouries. I pinned them all to the wall of my workshop and realized that it would be a living hell to replicate that helmet. First there was no real symmetry, in whatever direction. Crossing lines on the top were not 90 degrees but more then 85 degrees or so. Even the number of rivets on each side was different ( well perhaps I make this up right now) and all had a different shape and distance to eachother... It took me 3 months to complete the job... It looked great though.
@ggtt2547 Жыл бұрын
I could watch hundrends of hours of Adam and his friends over at the Met chatting about armor and it's history!!
@chadherbert18 Жыл бұрын
Cool! I build 4 brass shield bosses over the winter and had to do a lot of work hammering (plaining?) out the little nicks from the anvil. I tried a wooden arch, to avoid the nicks, but it was difficult to work with and really didn’t work well. I think the pitch will have the right consistency… 🤔
@glennmorganfan9411 Жыл бұрын
I never knew they used pitch as a work tool. I have so much to learn.
@Avrohomperl Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the distribution of academic vs maker the folks in these videos are. Clearly both are there. Very much enjoying the series, thanks for sharing!
@RC3117 Жыл бұрын
As an avid Tabletop RPG game master, learning about how helmets are made using pitch is AMAZING. Adam, I would love to spend hours of my life watching you dive deep into this kind of topic.
@pigsandapples Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thank you for showing us. I wish today's world was more aligned with this way of thinking.
@cenciende9401 Жыл бұрын
Uh, it still is absolutely accepting of jank (imperfection) as a result of handcrafting, it will never be unappreciated.
@GnomaPhobic Жыл бұрын
That feeling of connection to the ancient maker reminds me of when you read a line of poetry, or a sentence in an old novel that resonates with you in unexpected ways. Both means by which human creation and expression can reach across history.
@Aethelgeat Жыл бұрын
I worked on an excavation of a Native American campsite from about the time of European contact. In my square was a scatter pattern of 20-30 bi-facial thinning flakes - the narrow ridge between two flake scars that has been pressure-flaked off to thin the tool. These are only about 5-7mm long and 1-2mm across. Having tried it myself a number of times and occasionally succeeded, I had respect for the toolmaker who made them. Given the scatter pattern, it was very likely that the toolmaker had been squatting at or very close to the same spot outside the square where I was squatting.
@beautifulsmall Жыл бұрын
Love to see the the museum and the experts, Sean , showing these techniques. I first imagined the pitch was cast but it starts flat ? Beautiful work on the cheeks. Only by making can you know how it is done. So true. Made 5x30mm Copper rivets for an oak pirates chest. Several failed methods but finally a technique that my son could video in one shot . , hit the brass, thats what happens. its a pirates chest. I should try iron.
@TonusStoneshield Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the inevitable, "Adam Savage Makes a Pitch Pot in order to better cosplay."
@Goon-124 Жыл бұрын
"OH. What a clever RUSE" The sheer delight made my day.
@MikaelLevoniemi Жыл бұрын
Interesting. You said pitch is pine resin when pine resin from countries it's used in actually translates to tar and english speakers are often shocked to hear some countries use tar as seasoning and they usually have to be corrected that tar is pine resin and it's better don't mix it up with petroleum pitch.
@nathkrupa3463 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Adam sir
@olivialeyba9296 Жыл бұрын
I’m having metal forming flashbacks when I was a jewelry student. All. The. Annealing.
@Meevious Жыл бұрын
What a cliffhanger, not finding out what was wrong with the old cheekpieces. ❌😲
@notfeedynotlazy Жыл бұрын
What face would Adam make upon learning that Montefortino three-bossed cheekpieces were very likely miniature models of three-bossed cuirasses? Yes, Etruscan warriors likely wore armor made up of miniature models of armor pieces! Notice the word "likely", that is just ONE of the theories about those. But that's not the point. The point is that one of those pieces *MIGHT* be an Etruscan armorer thinking "how cool would it be if this armor was made of miniature models of armor?" Which is the most Adam Savage thing that you could conceive. (Longer explanation: Earliest Etruscan cuirasses were a simple square or round piece over the heart. A later style existed with three such round bosses, two over either breast, one over the stomach. Yep, just like the cheekpieces. Those cuirasses had two small lobes on the sides to which the cuirass straps were riveted. _Exactly_ like the ones you see in the cheekpiece at 4:17. Thing is, the earliest known example found of that kind of cuirass is of a later period than the earliest known example found of that kind of cheekpiece. By that time, they were already making the cheekpieces as simple triangles, without the lobes. Traditionally it was said that the cuirases imitated the cheekpieces: however, Peter Connolly (one of the best Greek and Roman historians of the XX century and one of the very first reconstructional archaeologists) argued that made no sense and the most likely case was, the cuirases came first (with side lobes that have a function), _then_ the cheekpieces in their shape (including the side lobes which have no function on the cheekpieces), _then_ the cheekpieces _without_ the side lobes. Giving that we have not found that many Etruscan pieces of armor, it wouldn't be weird to have found earlier cheeppieces but not early cuirasses. There are armors of that period that we only have pictorial examples of them but no arquelogical pieces have ever be found. According to him, every early cheekpiece would actually *BE* a pictorial representation of an early cuirass.) Of course, that is just _one_ of the historical theories (no matter how likely or cool it might be) until we actually find one of the older cuirasses. But that's not the point. The point is, as mentioned, the very possibility of an Etruscan armorer thinking "how cool would it be if this armor was made of miniature models of armor?" being _the_ most Adam Savage thing that you could conceive.
@roasty80 Жыл бұрын
perfect timing.just finished hammering my helmet
@ketsuekikumori9145 Жыл бұрын
The helmet being separate from the cheek pieces felt like a Looney Tunes visual joke.
@FraxinusExelsior Жыл бұрын
Amazing content!
@ersikillian Жыл бұрын
Sandbags and shotbags I'm familiar with when shaping and stretching metal. But pitch? That's a new one on me. So, my next question - where does one buy pitch?
@brianfeeney9493 Жыл бұрын
Excellent 🎉 information Thank you
@AlitaGunm99 Жыл бұрын
We know that lathes existed well before the time that helmet was made. It seems pretty obvious that a master form would be made on a lathe, and used to press or hammer in the roundel pattern, especially if the armorer had hundreds of identical helmets to make. Not having seen an original up close, I don't know if there are any tooling marks that would indicate or counterindicate this.
@noahtaylor7632 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know I needed a pitch bowl so badly
@ducomaritiem7160 Жыл бұрын
Go for the red pitch, for it's softer then the black stuff.
@LeVraiPoio Жыл бұрын
Is there an advantage to the bowl being a bowl instead of a cylinder ? I got the feeling it may roll when hammering.
@Patryn71 Жыл бұрын
I would imagine that it's easier to move around and see the different angles because of the rounded base. With something that small you aren't taking giant hammer swings, you're going to be gently and lightly tapping it, so the movement wouldn't be much of an issue.
@mungolikescandy3270 Жыл бұрын
you use a sand bag or donut underneath and you can move the bowl around to get the easiest angle to work from (handy when you are working on something with a curved surface)
@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын
Probably because it was heated on a forge fire, then used on an appropriately shaped tree stump.
@Oldtanktapper Жыл бұрын
It’s seated on a base while in use, either a sandbag or round ring of leather or rope etc, so it can be tilted and rotated to whatever angle you need while working.
@HMFan2010 Жыл бұрын
I thought at first is was something like the method Bertholdi used with “Liberty Enlightening the World”-repoussé into a reverse mold-but it appears that one uses the pitch pot as a “soft” anvil of sorts. Ya learn something new every day...
@inspectorsteve2287 Жыл бұрын
If pitch is a liquid how do they still have pitch with original hammer marks from way back when? I know pitch moves very very slowly but you would think over that long it would level out after not being used.
@cholulahotsauce6166 Жыл бұрын
I mean, the pitch drop experiment is on like... Drop number 4? So yeah it might level eventually but not yet.
@inspectorsteve2287 Жыл бұрын
@@cholulahotsauce6166 oh I know it goes slow. that's 94 years old I think. Look at the distance that pitch travelled. You would think a bowl of pitch with some marks that are less than a ½inch deep probably didn't level out. I guess if it was constantly used from the time the pitch was put in the bowl to today. But if it sat around for over 100 years it should be flat. Maybe I'm wrong. I guess that depends on the temp of the area it was kept as well.
@BigBadBarker Жыл бұрын
This serious is insane.
@tambarlas5248 Жыл бұрын
One thing I wished was discussed here was how they heated the pitch in the bowl. Over a Bunsen burner?
@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын
Probably a forge - it looks shaped for that and that was the available heat source.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff Жыл бұрын
Thank you..
@sgtmarty9682 Жыл бұрын
One of the most entertaining "making" channels I've seen recently--with armor in mind--is this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZPZq6eAqqZ2rsk The way he mixes the armor-making skill with his humorous video-editing skill is engaging.
@NewMessage Жыл бұрын
Man.. I don't even have a pot to pitch in!
@padoco73 Жыл бұрын
So, pitch is just a really intense version of ooblek?
@KSCPMark6742 Жыл бұрын
There's always a step missing in these reenactments. Where did the sheet metal come from? They didn't have roller, the metal must have been hammered flat with an immense amount of work. They'd have to work around work hardening the metal. i have never seen anyone faithfully reproduce the whole process.
@LH782 Жыл бұрын
They should melt that pitch now so that in 100 years when the next armorer needs it they can actually use it without feeling bad about destroying their predecessors' imprint.
@heaslyben Жыл бұрын
Looking both backwards and forwards in time -- and it's always Ukulele Time ❤
@ssgtmole8610 Жыл бұрын
Hurrah for more MOMA armor! 🥰😎
@McSquirrelly42 Жыл бұрын
I'm just gunna assume Adam lives in the met armory now and the only thing I have to say about that is, does he want a roommate?
@matdrat Жыл бұрын
Wonder who Marvin the Martian's armorer is.
@bumboy5348 Жыл бұрын
When bro took the helmet off the rack 🤯
@171QA Жыл бұрын
Cool.
@JYD2020 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else wanna see the bigger pitch pot
@miyawkat8018 Жыл бұрын
holy shit in the thumbnail i thought adam is with post malone 😂
@franklubbock8400 Жыл бұрын
Man that stuff is pitch black!
@kaboom-zf2bl Жыл бұрын
i wonder if they would ar have recreated the making tools they would need to make a complete set of armour ... if they could use those for repairs or dressing up the actual artifacts ... ok they have an old pitch pot with an embossed relief they wont touch .. so make a replica that they CAN use ... and then recreate the original from use and reuse ...
@jamesbarisitz4794 Жыл бұрын
I hope Adam paid his share of the rent on this mega visit.
@TheSchmuck01 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does this video have a high-pitched buzz?
@DHealey Жыл бұрын
Interesting title ;)
@csouverein Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Adam to show off his hammering skills🤔😕
@natrelacoustix Жыл бұрын
No matter how ancient the technique, I think you should cut down on hammering your helmet 😮
@dr.celsius886 Жыл бұрын
Adam should see if they would let him intern there for a month or so
@finnmcool2 Жыл бұрын
Every good workshop needs a pot to pitch in.
@maartenvanderzwan8281 Жыл бұрын
The thing that always bugged me about classic museums is that they show " old junk" I would much more enjoy the narrative of how something was used like a scene of a bakery or a duel in a way as it was. With on the side the originals. If most of us think about for in stance a castle we imagine a "ugly" stone building. As they are now. Not the painted fiberent colors the where. Same with most armor. It gives such a wrong idee of history.
@cenciende9401 Жыл бұрын
Correction: BCE
@Irishfighter2010 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel, but where are the ancient hammering techniques? I just see a guy talking about helmets.
@roryoutdoors5431 Жыл бұрын
Hey batta batta batta SWING and a miss! Ooooooh wait THAT kind of pitch! :p The leftovers from making turpentine, and the reason we have MacIntosh coats!
@timgelder4263 Жыл бұрын
Seemed like a very incomplete description of the process to me.
@Overfl00d Жыл бұрын
Adam, you're loooking ghastly pale. Time to chipper up and dole about in the sun and achieve yourself a tan, matey!
@SirRockXIII Жыл бұрын
No Way you upload this as I'm handmaking a Mandalorian Helmet with the frame of my old PC and a ball peen hammer. Lol.
@ducomaritiem7160 Жыл бұрын
For helmets good stakes are the trick. Pc case metal is great for hammering, it's specially made for mechanical forming. Ball stakes are a good start, but also V and reverse V stakes ( clamp a dulled axe in a vice) are the way. You also need offset stakes.
@wiwingmargahayu6831 Жыл бұрын
youtube channel david west
@Scorpion-so5gb Жыл бұрын
Hello Adam 👋
@brianfeeney9493 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of a BREAST PLATE , but never heard of a BREAST HELMET ?!?
@Queue22 Жыл бұрын
Thought the guy in the thumbnail was Post Malone
@twoshirts1842 Жыл бұрын
I thought that was Post Malone in the thumbnail
@stoatystoat174 Жыл бұрын
🤭
@emergingloki Жыл бұрын
Helmet Hammering techniques? Is this one tagged kid friendly? 😂
@galveenus8499 Жыл бұрын
Kinky
@QuarkXQuasar Жыл бұрын
If you're not 100% paying attention, "bucket of pitch" certainly hits the ear in a funny way.