HP Spectre 13-4050 No Charge - LFC

[@dannybrookes1280]

Love your videos, you always explain what you’re doing or looking for in terms I can understand. Keep up the great work 👍

[@ianide2480]

I am a HUGE proponent of electric screwdrivers of any type. Whenever it is possible I use power tools for screw removal. I spend aprox 30 years swinging and a hammer and my wrist/elbow/shoulder joints are pretty much filled with gelatin that used to resemble cartilage. Save your body from repetitive motion injuries ANY time that you can.

[@carlosgarciaoropeza5480]

I see his work in retrospect (without a thermal camera). Admirable repair young Graham, it would be unfair, after watching such videos, not to recognize it like that. Sincere congratulations. All the best.

[@metime-kw4tx]

18:02 look closely between the power plug and the keyboard plugin(I think-big white plastic connector). The is an arch of separation between the edge of the board and inner of board. That is the hidden trace to the ceramic capacitor. The trace goes under the keyboard connector.

[@DrDucklesworth]

"where's my alcohol" i feel that

[@raven4k998]

I drank all your Alcohol sorry about that

[@TheGameBench]

When I was working for HP as a field engineer, I worked primarily on laptops because I was the only person in the area that could fully disassemble a laptop, replace the board, and put it back together in 30 to 45 minutes depending on the model. I sure as hell didn't do it with a manual screw driver. When it's your profession, it's a necessity for various reasons.

[@cattflap1447]

Normally the diode across the rails is for transient suppression (Zener ). Input protection is in series with the positive rail.

16:13 me when I should be looking for a job

[@MedievalFolkDance]

When your job involves removing and replacing hundreds of tiny screws on a daily basis, an electric screwdriver is less of a convenience and more a health & safety necessity.

[@Crazy--Clown]

HP & DELL techs = Tin Men

[@AdventureswithAdeel3]

You're words should be used as universal quote in repairing community

[@MedievalFolkDance]

@@Crazy--Clown I can hear the creaky wrists from here!

[@TheGameBench]

Exactly! And I can't imagine working on anything all day, every day, and being limited to hand tools from a time perspective either. I mean, can you imagine someone telling an auto detailer they're lazy for using a buffer? Or a framer for using a nail gun? Seriously... it would add a ton of time to their workflow.

[@MedievalFolkDance]

@@TheGameBench True. You wouldn't wander up to a guy in a JCB and start calling him lazy for not using a shovel.

[@sp_charles24]

I can see a via, not sure, below 1st inrush limiter (a mosfet) and left side of the cap 12:45, through which the dc jack voltage is connected to the shorted cap removed. As adamant said it might be as a supply to control the 1st mosfet there or something else there.

[@johnbisley8462]

Excellent just came across your KZbin site by accident and I have leant so much and find all your videos very interesting. Your knowledge is excellent and you explain it well

[@radius.indrawan]

by using voltage injection i learned from you, i've managed to repair my sister's old Acer laptop which was shorted when its DC adapter plugged-in. and guess what, the shorted cap location is far from the DC jack too. so big thanks to you Graham for share us that technique. 😉

[@DraftySatyr]

You've achieved one of the world's most difficult tasks: become a hero to your sister! 😃

[@radius.indrawan]

@@DraftySatyr ow yeah! 😆

[@Martin-ot7xj]

Hi there , it was very informative tutorial video . thankyou to zoom in on the mainboard to allow us to see with all details . keep it up . thnx

[@MrMessias0815]

im so glad i found your channel. There is so much to learn. Greetings from Germany.

[@jackbauer2698]

21:20 you forgot to put back the capacitor on the left off of the DC port pins there are 2 horizontal pads there. Right by the huge ground pad you put solder on during testing.

[@kc123photo123]

I love your electric screw driver!

[@dualitycat]

I watched this video with laser-like focus the whole time - fascinating.

[@als1035]

I had a dead short at the charger input on an Envy 23 this week and I did voltage injection. Like your example, the shorted capacitor was nowhere near the input, which was a surprise. It really does take the guess work out of the process no matter how well experienced you are. Nice job!

[@Scruit]

Awesome video, and it's been two years... but.... You missed a cap on reassembly...? The one you removed at 13:14. At 21:54 it is still missing.

[@philippenormandeau2676]

nice work on it that great

[@Opapa-Jan]

Why do you never use the powersuply? you often immediately see whether there is a powerdrop and / or of using the laptop power!

[@danielmacharia1349]

good job.I have several of your videos and am impressed.You explain things in a very understandable way

[@zx8401ztv]

Well done graham :-D You have had some real hum dinger power faults on previous boards. I was thinking similar to you, it has to be in that little square... Nope!. So that dead cap may have been the input to the charge circuit.

[@Adamant_IT]

Yea, while I was reviewing the video, I did spot a Via below the mosfet I removed and near the cap under it - that's probably how power was getting over to the other area. I still think the faulty area was managing the input mosfet. But yea, weird layout, they kinda just crammed the DC stuff all around where they also wanted to put CPU and CPU vcore. Weird board.

[@bluntdocto2571]

@ Adamant IT where/how did you learn to test motherboards, worked in a PC repair shop 6 years never learned how to do this, just replaced the mobo.

[@Adamant_IT]

KZbin. I'm absolutely not the best by a long shot, but there's a lot of repair channels like Eletronics Repair School, Northridgefix, Louis Rossmann, place like that who do board repair like this all day every day. I look at one a week or so, since a lot of stuff I see it's easier to replace the mobo. But yea, occasionally I get a board like this that's within my ability.

[@bluntdocto2571]

@@Adamant_IT That is awesome! Yeah, I been watching Louis videos for years, I will check out those other channels! Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out! Your videos are awesome!

[@amtpdb1]

I sure would like to see you do this with a couple of cheap video cards. I have purchased a few broken boards from ebay trying to learn the basics of trouble shooting and fixing them with no success! Thanks for the videos.

[@ZacharyDuhamel]

This happened to my exact one a few months ago!!

[@dennisschock165]

Happy Thanksgiving from the U.S.

[@SC-ey7xv]

I have also the same laptop like in this video. This is my first time using the multimeter. I did the same like you did measuring the DC jack with the power on and by me is measuring from the DC jack cable 19.72 so it's a little bit less. I dont know if that's the problem. Also you measures the non ground pin from where the DC jack is connected to the motherboard, I also measured that but it's not beeping to me. I also followed another video from you and you did a different measuring method measuring with continuity mode the coile power supplies to the motherboard which you got bad results of low ohmns. I tried also measuring the coile and multimeter is giving me different numbers from m ohmns to k ohmns and go back to m ohmns again and down to k ohmns and so on what does that mean? I also tried to measure with continuity mode again the capacitors around the motherboard but its not giving me any beep sound to non ground. But there where little capacitors not giving me any beep sound to both sides. I dont know if it normal to some of capacitors. Do I something wrong? What could be the issue here and how can I fix it?

[@mskurnik]

I have the same laptop and a capacitor cracked in half in the same area. Thanks.

[@Nachesko]

5:42 C´mon! the electric screwdriver is the best that happened in the last years. I have the version with 2aaa batteries, i would love that mine have usb port, i use it in EVERY work

[@Crazy--Clown]

Get a Jakemy, yours will have slow rpm

[@ABGG55]

You forget to re-solder tiny cap back on left corner of the board.

[@fredflintstone1]

yep it would appear he didn't

[@Adamant_IT]

Yea I actually found it on the bench this morning when I turned everything on to do the thumbnail picture! Laptop hadn't been collected yet, so I sorted it this morning.

[@fredflintstone1]

@@Adamant_IT Happens to the best of us the number of times I strip something down put it back together and Where did all these spare nuts and blots come from that are left over:-)

[@badvoiceallnoise]

@@Adamant_IT 13:10 2 tiny caps !

[@keeperofthegood]

@@Adamant_IT Yea the "bench" is where parts go to become lost n forgot LOL I use suitable small trays these days. Good one is small art paint pallet, six wells and white easy sort and easy see parts too. Good 99 cents item to has.

[@johnklemets1809]

Adamant IT here in Australia mate they will not repair the motherboards they make you buy a new one sow i repair them now but i use a big magnifier as my eyes are not what they where thanks for another top video stay safe mate

[@catherinenakabugo8628]

Hey, what if the laptop charges but won't power on. When I press the power button nothing happens. Even the power button doesn't light up. But when I long press the power button, it the power button flashes. I have the same laptop as in the video.

[@cliffordgallagher4531]

Well Done Graham!

[@zoltankecse991]

Hi. Can you tell me what's the type of camera what you are using above the board? Thx.

[@neliogoncalvessilva]

Great job, always learning, keep up the good work!!!!

[@Echo3_]

5:32 lmao! Let someone say that after doing this day in and day out for years, that electric screwdriver is saving us from more carpol tunnel

[@northof-62]

Loud cars and MCs speeding past is a bonus.

[@monkeytutz2]

Great video. Are there any “rules” surrounding what volts / amps you consider safe for voltage injection? I wouldn’t want to Chuck too much into a motherboard and inadvertently fry an expensive component on it

[@Adamant_IT]

These days I start at 1v 3amps limit. While in a dead-short, the volts should stay close to 0 indicated. In this case there was still some resistance, so I had to push up to 2v limit, which then got me up to 1.6v indicated, limiting at 3amps. Since we're current-limiting, the voltage never really goes very high. But it's best to keep as low as you can, in case the short isn't where you think it is and you accidently bang 5+ volts into a line where you shouldn't.

[@kintag4459]

Great job

[@pav1276]

I watched your video so many times, I like the way you work. I have the same issue with my laptop and B20N03 CGL0390 mosfet looks burned-out. Can you help, please?

[@SecondHandDIY]

i use a driver like that my self great video keep it up realy enjoy them

[@dadzieegyir6185]

Please what is the rating of the guy (I think diode) just in front of the mosfet that you remove. I have a similar problem but that guy(diode) Is causing the short-circuit.

[@MrBook123456]

good job

[@maazahmad1631]

Kindly tell me how u know the DC jacket terminal e.g positive and negative terminals ? And which wire and liquid you are using for cleaning the mosfet terminals after removing the mosfet?

[@Adamant_IT]

The wire is regular leaded flux-core solder. I know which terminals are positive and negative by observing the wires from the DC jack, red for positive, black for negative. You can also figure it out just be measuring and observing - if I find -19.5v, then I've got the positive and negative the wrong way around.

[@hammzahammza7914]

Hello I want an advice from you about changing a power ic, from a "gpd win2" device.

[@foxdragon9498]

on the left bothem corner righet above the white connector you remove cap but don't stick it back ?

[@foxdragon9498]

you remove it at 13:14

[@Fahim.23]

You definitely have the knowledge of what you are doing now all you need are the proper tools believe me you need a good a soldering iron ( JBC or HAKKO FX951 ),heat gun ( quick 861dw ) and the most important tool a MICROSCOPE 🔬 doesn't have to been an expensive like amscope now a days there a lot of cheap alternatives for around 500€ with light,camera,barrows lens. One tech to another.

[@nikkotsoi]

Hi i have a similar hp laptop envy x360. It can power on with battery but no charging lights and cannot detect charger. There is no deadshort on 19v input .Tried following your guide on finding shorted caps but cant find any. The 19v can reach the charging IC 9538bh, but output only 1v to the board. Can i assume it is a bad charging IC? Thanks a lot!

[@karuppanllc9675]

Graham please do laptop charging complaints & not changing, charging sections videos

[@shiftctrlhack]

Good job brotha!! My thought is : When in doubt VOLTAGE it out! Haha I wish I had schematics for all the boards I work on. It would make life a lot easier sometimes. Great video keep it up 😁

[@mauanderuk]

Nice work.

[@iTCXtreme]

The last 3 pins are "clock, data, and temp" lines. As always good video. 😊👍

[@simonwalkden4289]

Sounds crazy but i do a lot of screws and still only have manual ones i just prefer the control and not a fan of bits going into screwdrivers prefer full screwdrivers what scope/cam are you using to view that board as looking to get a replacement stereo or tri scope

[@karuppanllc9675]

Please give us more basic videos like this thank you sir ✌️✌️✌️👏🏻👏🏻

[@gummansgubbe6225]

The diode selecting battery or net power

[@aleksandarperovic2520]

Thanks!

[@legionlion7541]

Can I use without replacing this capacitor? I removed it and no more short.

[@Adamant_IT]

Check this video for information about replacing or not bothering: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZa4cpyfq8aMl5Y

[@kgerakopoulos]

great work 👏

[@que_dijo]

Thanks, Adam, awesome video as always. Can we know the model of that camera you are using to film what you are doing on the computers?

[@Filippoilcane]

a che temperatura tieni la stazione ad aria calda? e se posso chiedere che marca e modello è? weller? grazie

[@ianide2480]

No it's not absolute that capacitors of the same size are the same value but you are 100% correct in guessing that it is highly likely. If you can count one 1 thing it's a manufacturer's desire to make money. Making a bunch of any item the same exact part saves money off the BOM.

[@Rev0lution88]

Hi, just saw your video I have the exact same laptop with the same problem. All the sudden it just didnt turn on anymore.. Can I send it to you ?

[@andreilucian10]

I say goodbye forever for your VICI 99 multimeter :))

[@Adamant_IT]

Still got it! Just wanted to try other models out as well, get some experience with different units.

[@sherlockholmes5300]

I got a bone to pick with you. Lol. I saw your game max builds. And liked them alot. But I can't order no parts cause I unfortunately live in the u.s. which is unfortunate, but I deal with the hand I'm dealt. Lol. I hope to see more of your custom builds and fix videos in the future. ✌

[@ikativan2110]

Voltage injection saves a lot of time. 🙂👍

[@legionlion7541]

I am having the same problem and when I check continuity on the capacitor that you replaced it beeps on both sides. This is saying that it is shorted correct? Also what size did you use to replace 10nf? I saw the code on your strip was 106.

[@priestblood]

Why Didn't you not check traces on the other side of the board there ls more power traces

[@brandonbrown5166]

Do you not have a thermal camera yet?

[@Mikie1959]

put a link for the rechargeable screw driver you are using to.

[@DraftySatyr]

YZH Mini Electric Screwdriver Cordless Power Screwdriver Set with 55 Precision Bits - available on Amazon

[@rashedbiswas5720]

My laptop model is hp probook 450 G5, core i5 model, for last 3/4 days my laptop is stuck at 79% charge. When it reaches 79% charge, the battery status bar shows pulgged in, but no charge happens after that. I've updated the drivers & check the battery & AC adapter health by hp battery health tester. What should I do?

[@Adamant_IT]

Probably a bad battery. Most battery health checks just measure if the battery's measured capacity is over a set value, but that's not the full story about if a battery is working properly or not.

[@GeertDroid]

Adam what camera do you use. Can you tell brand and model please ?

[@Adamant_IT]

Bench cam is a Logitech Brio, face cam is a Logitech C920. They're both horrifyingly expensive right now though, so I couldn't recommend them at current price. Bad time to be buying webcams unfortunately.

[@bunnylove273]

hi bud thanks for the great vid

[@boghinovel]

I have a question one that no tech guy could tell me exactly what is happening oh pls pls respond thank you for your videos and for your response if anny heheh so I have a zotac nvidia gtx 1080 amp edition ! windows 7 and windows 10 tested this so hmmmmmm how to start the card is working but let's say I wake up in the morning and I start the pc I see on msi afterburner saying 34c the system is idle with 34 processes so no latency or crap like that, even latency moon pass it but at some random time in gpu temp in msi I see a spike from 34c to even 29c for a 500 millisecond now at this point I have to take the card from the slot and put it back in pci slot and problem solves itself till next shut down or a few hour turned off it's annoying and I think there is a interrupt in the system when that spike occurs but can't really detect it ! tried an 1080ti and 1060 and they don't have this problem we have no idea why that happens ! bad cap maybe ? thank you : ) edit 1 different drivers and old ones tested all drivers are ok no conflicts no errors no funny lines or sings of bad rendering not using it in full load so always fps cap set up no overheating tested it on another mb and same result even after getting heated same problem all pads looks ok other gpus work ok untill I don't take it out the slot and put it back the problem will not go away ! edit 2 setting msi ab to monitor only the gpu temp set at 100 millisecond and I can see the spike for that 1/10 of a second I take the card out and put it back, bingo is working till I turn off and restart the process of starting and then again spike and then I take and put it back in slot edit 3 even changed the paste can't see a defect on the board or a burn or anny strange things edit 4 thank you much : )

[@ADunleavy]

Im curious, is it possible to use a hot air to loosen a laptop's GPU and get a new one?

[@Adamant_IT]

You need a BGA rework station for that, the chip is too big for hot air. GPUs can absolutely be replaced, but even with the right equipment it's a big job, and finding reliable replacements is tough.

[@AV-hx1bm]

Can you provide a link where to download macbook testing tool, please

[@MattyEngland]

Lol about the screwdriver. 😂👍

[@ElektroTechNL]

You forget a cap. Really small one next to the connector

[@Adamant_IT]

Yea I actually found it on the bench this morning when I turned everything on to do the thumbnail picture! Laptop hadn't been collected yet, so I sorted it this morning.

[@registriert2012]

if you had the schematics......why didn´t you look for the value of the capacitor there?

[@Adamant_IT]

I didn't trust the schematic I had. The IC next to the failed cap was labelled as PU2, but the schematic didn't have a PU2 on it, and PU2 on the board didn't have enough connections to be the power management chip - so far as I could see. So in short, I had no idea where I was on the schematic. I had the DC jack circuit diagram in front of me, but even that was showing loads of stuff that literally just wasn't visible on the board.

[@victortitov1740]

I was screaming at the screen: "This big cap below the mosfet!". You: remove mosfet ... remove three other caps... me: oh, finally, that cap is getting attention. you: remove the cap. -> NO, not this one either! conclusion: guessing can be a big waste of time, indeed.

[@shooter3267]

hindsight is a wonderful thing

[@calhoupe]

I had exactly the same thoughts about that cap

[@dr.hinneredv932]

hehe

[@AllaBader01]

With Thermal Imaging Camera your life would be 100X easier, you just plug in the DC jack and find that shorted capacitor .though the good ones are not cheap .

[@xDB8x]

7:31 DC JACK

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

1:01 lol sports car/motorcycle reves

[@Sam_420]

16:43 Because it’s a HP! 😂

[@FireballXL55]

Sorry but before you even took off the FET I was shouting big cap between the connectors. But I was wrong.

[@vincepirozzi9603]

Where do you get your schematics?

[@jamesleegte]

Idea for a drinking game - Take a shot every time Graham says “however” !

[@madsfrederiktoft5808]

What I find wird is that major makers like Asus had by 2016 started to make their laptops charge via USB, but now have gone back to old style charging ports. Cost saving?

[@Adamant_IT]

Yea, Type-C Power Delivery is much more complicated to implement. It's slowly tricking out there though.

[@albertwooten2983]

are infrared thermometers usable for this?

[@Adamant_IT]

I don't think an IR thermometer has the accuracy needed. Injection works by getting a single component to run hot enough that it can't dissipate the heat, so the board around it will usually be lukewarm at best. The IR thermometer I have is only good to the nearest inch or two, which doesn't really help find an 0803 capacitor. Thermal Camera makes this a lot easier, but I'm still pained to spend £300+ on something that my fingers can also accomplish. I'm thinking of picking up a second hand CAT Phone with the built-in thermal cam as a poor man's option.

[@albertwooten2983]

@@Adamant_IT thanks. maybe a lens modification? like a zoom lens you might strap to a smartphone.. is that crazy?

[@josephking6515]

@@Adamant_IT BigClive got a new phone, maybe he will let you have the old one that has IR camera. 🤔

[@Codeman016]

Where do you normally go for schematics?

[@Adamant_IT]

Google. There's lots of forums like badcaps and so on where this stuff can be found, just make accounts on all those places so you can download attachments. I wouldn't say this is a super reliable way to find them, but honestly for basic power issues like a lot of my videos, I get further by reading the board, rather than tracking down schematics.

[@Codeman016]

@@Adamant_IT thank you so much for the response!

[@paying-for-freedom]

Multilayer boards can be really tricky. Components can be on the other end of the board and on the other side.. Real pain in the A$$

[@josephking6515]

Oh Graham, it is a _reverse, zener, one way, rectifier, electronic doodad thingy diode_ . Good heavens man, get with the program. 😀 Don't let the critical bastards get you down. 😎 Remember, those who can *do* and those who can't _watch KZbin videos and as a result are experts_ . An expert of course is a person who can't spurt anymore hence the ex part. 🤭 Let those prats try and produce videos and see how they would go and we both know they couldn't do it. Like your work and please keep it up. *Thank You* , from a grateful subscriber!

[@Lacezyy]

hoping to see a desktop pc lfc soon :)

[@UNNIUTHAMAN]

sir I am a big fan off you

[@AndyMarsh]

I'm sure you have been asked this before... but how do price a job like this?

[@Adamant_IT]

Basic power faults like this I charge £80, which lines up with the kind of prices you see advertised from other repair shops on ebay and the like. If it were a more complex repair, or needed more expensive replacement parts I'd charge more. But I don't personally feel that my skill-level is up there yet.

[@brianjrichman]

Do you ever watch Northridge Fix YT channel? He often fixes HP Spectre laptops with power issues.

[@Adamant_IT]

I'm subbed to him, but I haven't had time to watch any content yet. Most of my knowledge is based from a six-month binge of Louis Rossman content 3 or 4 years ago. I want to get back into watching other people on the board repair scene, but it's waiting for more free time.

[@brianjrichman]

​@@Adamant_IT Thanks for the reply. I understand about lack of free time. Priorities and all that. You need to keep working and so on, that all comes first, especially in these times. I find Rossman a little bit (I'll put this kindly as I don't mean to be critical), "less careful" over his soldering than I personally prefer to be. I suppose it's a personal technique thing is all? Rossman certainly does 'let rip' at Apple with good cause too, but many other makers are going down that same path (for shame). These days, I tend to avoid surface mount/micro component board level repairs, as at my age (65), my eyes are not the best now so I often need massive amounts of light and magnification to get it clear enough to work on. YUK.

[@josephking6515]

@@brianjrichman Louis has an issue with shaky hands which may be why his soldering (or soddering in 'Murican) may look a tad rough. I empathise totally re your vision. Mine used to be really good but now it is crap and I am unable to do any sort of soldering except to whack to wires together and even that is a struggle. A good microscope would allow you to do surface mount work but they isn't cheap. Although a dozen or so jobs would make getting one worthwhile. Just a non professional's thought.

[@brianjrichman]

@@josephking6515 Don't know about Luis' "shakes". Oh well. Was just my observation is all. As for pronunciations, I am originally a Brit and pronounce the "L" in the word. The "L" thing in Solder is all explained here: www.circuitspecialists.com/blog/solder-not-sodder-the-story-behind-the-silent-or-not-so-silent-l/#:~:text=Souder%20%5Bsoo%2Ddeh%5D%20(,to%20solder%20or%20to%20weld.

[@sedzinfo]

I have seen several of your videos -but certainly not all- is there any video explaining what may happen to people if they inhale soldering fumes? Do you have any bad experience, have you ever experienced any kind of injury in the work you are doing? Do you need safety glasses for soldering? Is there any way solder may start to explode like when you throw water on fried oil? If you don't have any such a video already, I will be extremelly interested hearing from a professional addressing health and safety issues. People in UK take health and safety in workplace seriously. I remember you mention a lot about lithium ion batteries and that they should not be overcharged nailed pinched etc. But I do not remember anything on soldering.

[@foundatlantis]

this guy is doing heart surgery but on computers. the precision.

[@HuntersMoon78]

I read no charge like your not charging the customer......I'm a doof!

[@geoffreykeane4072]

Me too

[@TomsManShed]

me too :)

[@GaryB007]

And me.

[@josephking6515]

Don't you just love the English language. 🤦‍♂️

[@mahdibarati2841]

almost sure it called TVS DIODE