2) The Pre-Socratics: Xenophanes & Heraclitus

[@QWE-in3tx]

1. 00:00 Review and Introduction 2. 13:51 Xenophanes and the Consequences of Monotheism 3. 31:47 Heraclitus, Change and Logos

[@fernandafernandes5200]

QWE 123, do you know where i can find the reading material that he posts for his students?

[@QWE-in3tx]

@@fernandafernandes5200 No, i dont know☹️. It would be very instructive to read.

[@adamrosenfeld9384]

@@fernandafernandes5200 Forrest Baird's Philosophical Classics: Vol 1, Ancient Philosophy is a pretty good all-in-one edition for studying ancient philosophy, including the Pre-Socratics. Nearly all the "Post-Socratic" stuff that we read later in the class can be found at the MIT Internet Classics Archive for free (classics.mit.edu/Browse/index.html)

[@TellTheTruth_and_ShameTheDevil]

​@@adamrosenfeld9384the link is off 😢

[@laneynelson1814]

props to Thomas for jumping in like that

[@wardsnauwaert6709]

This is pure gold! Thanks Adam, very inspiring lecture.

[@sofiiabartnovska5919]

Thank you for what you are doing!

[@paulinachmara6692]

My new favourite KZbin channel!!! This is fantastsic

[@thefinnishbolshevik2404]

Quoting Heraclitus: “The world... is and will be eternally living fire, regularly becoming ignited and regularly becoming extinguished....” V. I. Lenin said "A very good exposition of the principles of dialectical materialism." Heraclitus was an early materialist who emphasized that the world is changing, developing.

[@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023]

actually Heraclitus didn't know dialectics as we do... it's misleading to read him as a type of proto-Hegel

[@andrewwells6323]

This dudes beard became grey in a week

[@sebastianenriquefernandezv7996]

Noticed that too LOL

[@adamrosenfeld9384]

I was really committed to demonstrating that "everything changes."

[@andrewwells6323]

@@adamrosenfeld9384 great videos though 👍

[@darillus1]

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[@quayscenes]

Watching through the robot!

[@reveranttangent1771]

Same

[@Rico-Suave_]

Watched all of it 1:11:49

[@gk2677]

What exactly the trouble with Heraclitus? Looks like he’s saying it very clearly that all is indeed in a state of flux, however Logos supplies intellectual tools to conceptualize pseudo-permanent entities like a river or sense of myself or a sunset, our entire language in fact

[@reveranttangent1771]

So some suggest that Heraclitus may be speaking in ice cream koans rather than actual koans.

[@linaachaji850]

"Into the same river we both step and do not step, we are and are not. " Is this aligned with the quantum physics theory? and schrodinger's living and dying cat at once?

[@ajmosutra7667]

So, which one of the vids with the same name is the true vid??

[@ephraimherer9406]

I dont know if it makes sense but maybe heraclitus didnt believe in logos. Because it isnt in flux so although people say or have logic it fails them and turns into flux.

[@ajmosutra7667]

I also had a tickle in my throat during my presocrates philosophy class... Some things never change... XD

[@longcastle4863]

18:17 - 18:35 : D

[@nozecone]

Somebody could have edited out the choking fit ... just a thought ....

[@zacharyschabel7822]

he kinda sounds like mr peanut butter from bojack horseman

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