Add 15 Horsepower In 10 Min. | Fox Body 10 Minute Tune Up

[@jongregg794]

Nothing like some old school hot rod basics from 1993! Don’t forget to try the bag of ice on intake manifold trick too. Great job LMR. I’m currently restoring a 91 GT convertible and these videos have been extremely helpful. You guys have been a fantastic resource for the Mustang community.

[@tmseh]

I always like the hockey puck mod on a 94-96 Caprice/Roadmaster.

[@TheJMan1K]

@@tmseh what exactly is that?

[@pcpalan]

Damn that is not bad! That belt replacement was impressive.

[@302hobronco]

Great video!!! I bought my 94 gt from a guy who claimed the engine was worn out. 112k miles ran and started ok. I went to do this "tune up" and when I went to check timing I noticed it was at 10degs timing but the balancer was wonky. Turns out the balancer had separated and had been moving. Got a new balancer installed, timed it properly 14degs, underdrive pulleys, cold air intake and the thing runs great!!

[@thebarber2009]

right lol

[@Texas_Road_Warrior]

Bump it up to 18° and give it a shot, I picked up 15-20hp from 2-6,000rpm VS the stock 10°, people will swear up and down 18 is to much but iron had sbf motors like 38° total timing usually, it worked good in my case!

[@robertmoore119]

Very cool to see solid data for each change. *Drive to track, swap a belt and gain over 5 HP *Reinstall and drive home.

[@beartodrift5345]

These videos are what keeps me modifying and ordering parts lol. I don’t have money and time to continually keep dynoing my car but it’s nice to have a video reference to compare too.

[@Tusuperbis]

I remember doing this back in the day with my bone stock 86 GT. I also had south side bars, 4.10 gears, March underdrive pulleys, fat and skinny weld wheels with bf goodrich drag radials, off road hpipe, 2 chamber flowmasters, bbk throttle body, bbk shorty headers, and that car went low 13s. I was tickled to death back then!

[@Thomasrollins_]

“Factory 3.08 gear” my god. I bet back in the day after a 3.73 install these cars felt like they had 100 wet shot on command.

[@331Grabber]

I had a 92 5.0 LX. I did this :) I love these vids. It's like revisiting my youth with these cars

[@RaceGasSmellsGood]

The infamous "Ten-Minute Tune-Up!" Love it! Thanks for more killer content!

[@bryanbrunk1186]

Adjusting the throttle position sensor was always popular too.

[@89gt5.0]

Just installed a new distributor this week and bumped to 14 as well and could definitely feel it was more responsive.

[@dvinpeace]

I did this exact thing at the race track, it was awesome increase! With exhaust ran 13.5 in the quarter mile Great video!!!

[@JReedsLoveofCars]

Love watching your videos. Straightforward with no fluff! I can't wait to install my SVE throttle body, which I had in 3 days!

[@jrh0369]

I never did the shorter belt. I spent thousands to get 300 hp on my 93 Cobra. Full exhaust, MSD, B303 cam, dyno tuned and cold air intake.

[@Dunkaroos248]

Do you think in the long run it would have been better to just punch it out to a 331 or a 347?

[@jrh0369]

Dunkaroos I have thought about it but it’s too labor intensive. It has over a 100k miles on it so if it blows then maybe a 347 stroker kit or ford racing 363 block.

[@ronb113]

These type of videos will never get old!

[@michaelharris748]

Not only did it add a noticeable amount of power it added that through most of the powerband so this would actually make a pretty big difference at the track and on the street. The 10 min tuneup works and it works well.

[@GearheadRob319]

Lovin the foxbody content.

[@RangerDanger074x4]

This was an awesome video!!! Man I love that cobra!

[@fastidious9344]

This was a great idea however there was one major mistake; you should have made a new baseline run on the same day. Bumping the timing on a ‘fox body’ from the factory 10ish degrees to 13-14 will typically give you 2 to 2.5 tenths and around 2 mph at the track in the 1/4, meaning it’s worth 15-20HP ALONE. I’ve owned about 20 of these cars over the years and raced many of them in the early ‘90’s when they were still selling them on the Ford lots (I also worked at a Ford dealer). Case in point, my ‘87 GT 5-spd was stuck running a best of 15.06 @ 94.1 mph when a guy at the track asked me what my timing was set at, I told him I had no idea, he checked it and it was set @ 7 degrees from Ford, bumped it to 13 degrees & it ran a 14.69 @ almost 97 mph the very next pass, & I was hooked & the rest is history lol.

[@superdriver777]

It's a long story how, but my car had been running on 0 degrees of timing advance for a long time before I realized it (it's a champ to have kept running at all lol). This weekend I swapped the TFI for a nice new one, and set the timing to 14° with 93 octane... The difference is night and day. Runs smoother, pulls much harder, and uses *much* less gas lol

[@mikegager]

unbolting the stock fan at the track was always good for a tenth and 1 mph in the 1/4 for my car also my car ran best with 17 degrees initial timing so dont be afraid to try more than 14

[@jackrabbit7389]

17 is what I got mine set at I could feel the difference at17 no detonation at all set at 17 with 93 oct

[@glahut93]

Switching to synthetic oils gets some more horsepower gains too

[@eugenechurch6135]

Those are some surprisingly nice numbers lmao

[@awhitness]

This is great info for those that want to do a GT40 swap.

[@CombsTowerProductions]

I just put in a K&N Air Filter and just put in some ford racing spark plug wires. I might take out that air silencer now lol

[@331Grabber]

Yeah. It's definitely worth pulling out the silencer. Lose a little weight gain a little HP.

[@anthonylaudano9751]

What a waste of time. MY STOCK 93 COBRA JUST HAS EXHAUST. HOW ABOUT A 100 SHOT.IT WOULD MAKE THE COBRA MUCH. MY VIBRANT RED 93 JUST HAS EXHAUST AND THAT'S HOW IT IS STAYING. IF I WANT TO GO FAST I JUST GET IN MY SUPERSNAKES OR MY or my Terminator or my GT500

[@JM-tj2kl]

10 minute tune up? But the video is only 7:43 minutes long? How can this be?! 😀 Good old school tricks. All worked! Short belt always gave good gains at the track!

[@TerryDanley]

Nice video, from a die hard fox body fan!🚙💨💨💨💨

[@beerzontap]

love these dyno pulls. keep it going.

[@matthewarmour3717]

Awesome video guys! Keep the 93 cobra videos coming. I love that car haha..

[@imakeituptoyou]

Brings back memories 😀

[@camerontaiki2522]

Those are some pretty nice gains for minimal work. Nice video

[@randalcoffman1979]

Great info keep it coming love these dyno pulls

[@shaggydo9216]

You should do electric fan dyno

[@tmseh]

Beautiful car. It's all there! Amazing.

[@TheSlim93gt]

I remember doing a short belt back in the day and not gaining any ET.

[@Def65-479]

Loved this.

[@fordtechlife]

My 93 lx 331 stroker likes about 14 to 15 spout out setting 💪🔥🇺🇸🦊🔧🚘🔴

[@fordtechlife]

@Andrey Angere yes just bored out and different rods and crank 💪🔥🇺🇸👍🔧

[@jaylongton]

Great video!

[@Stephen-br6il]

That cobra looks great

[@Mattys91gt]

now running a shorter belt to stop using the smog pump what has to come off and blocked off I know the 2 holes on the block

[@pittsky]

Love it. Old school info.

[@matteovanzant270]

After getting it running, tires, brakes, suspension, and exhaust I learned the engine was rebuilt and it felt sluggish. I checked timing and found it to be at 0°. I bumped it up to 12° and I shit you not there was a big difference.

[@zellodavis8453]

Memorial Day sale?

[@Sideler74]

13° is good but if you bump it to 15° timing, will be the biggest difference. You'll feel it.

[@michaelharris748]

Every car is different too some prefer 12 some like 14-15 depends on the car and quality of fuel used etc

[@jud-asinsmith-stansell2022]

Hard hard find to come across a car with all these still intact.. If so there is probably a good reason and these mods wont be done and it will not be needing the extra hp.. But I love the video and I miss my cobra.. RIP :(

[@markymo32]

Could you give the horsepower numbers for the rear wheel and fly-wheel. Because at the factory they rate it at the fly-wheel but I'm thinkin your just quoting the rear wheel. I don't know what the original rear wheel horspower numbers were for this car.

[@nikkodnp]

people who want some extra umph - do a proper tune up! Spark plugs/ wires, Distributor cap/ rotor, clean the MAF sensor, Seafoam in 1/4 gas tank.

[@eriv4735]

That’s not really “extra” oomph it’s more like restoring factory oomph..I’m pretty sure the car in this video has a “proper tune-up” in the first place

[@nikkodnp]

dont think that was mentioned in the video but good point!

[@seansweeney7721]

Good stuff

[@Anthony-rv3hr]

Are there actually any Foxbodys out there with an air silencer and a paper filter still in them? I doubt you'll find one at 10* timing either. While the 10 minute tune-up was great for nice gains, people watching this now are about 30 years late to the game. Shortbelt was good for the track only unless you wanted your PS fluid all over the place.

[@mromatic17]

i thought the cobras have the high flow gt40 heads. So if you have stock 5.0 heads you prob wont see much in gains.

[@jpp9846]

No ice on the intake manifold?

[@rworden96]

Does it hurt the car for just street driving (not racing) by removing the air silencer, upping timing and installing shorter belt?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Personally, I wouldn't run the short belt on the street. Removing the air silencer and increasing the timing is fine for street driving. -Landan

[@kimcokevin]

AC Delco belt? No GM stuff on my Mustang.

[@MorbidThrasher666]

Bone stock 93 cobra,dam.

[@springwoodslasher79]

You can go more than 14 degrees.

[@danb.3397]

So the air silencer didn't really do anything and the cost of 93 octane and timing for 4 HP ? Eh.

[@OscarDiaz-nn9ch]

How hard is turning that steering wheel without steering pump?

[@sav22rem22]

With the power rack it’s ridiculously hard

[@That_Guy11]

Do you guys have an ETA when you will be carrying the ford power pack for the 18+ GT?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Not at this time. You'll have to source one from your local Ford Performance dealer for one.

[@That_Guy11]

Late Model Restoration gotcha, thank you !

[@thatonev3697]

10 minute tune up on new edge GT ???

[@Diondo26]

not that much of gains ..how much does a cold air kit with underdrive pulleys and timing ??..think that beats all of this

[@ryanjamieson8779]

car already has underdrive pulleys from the factory, so...

[@mdubb618_hungry]

@landon which short belt deletes the smog stuff only. I need my ac?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Depending on your setup, there are a lot of different factors when it comes to choosing a shorter belt. Check the link in the description to shop all of our belts. Or feel free to give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 or email us at [e-mail] and a CCR can help answer any questions you may have.

[@mdubb618_hungry]

Late Model Restoration thanks!!! Love lmr

[@whatupbro9673]

I’m surprised it has an air silencer

[@ogon1485]

Can I have the COBRA... lol

[@JoeHynes284]

i'm a chevy guy, so be nice, shouldn't adding 4 degrees across the board add a lot more then 4HP? Also, is the shorter serpentine worth it for an extra 3 HP or so? I'm not trying to be a dick, something doesn't add up. I've also never met a car guy who didn't claim his or her car was "underrated from the factory" Really interesting video. I'll have to check out your channel more :) Stay safe

[@ryanjamieson8779]

it's RWHP, your brain doesn't add up. Also, car is rated at 235 crank hp, and made 222 to the wheels, pretty obvious it's underrated.

[@JoeHynes284]

Ryan Jamieson so you are saying one degree yielding one HP is correct? I stand by my statement that nearly every car guy thinks their car was “underrated from the factory” Though I’m open to see actual evidence to the contrary

[@JoeHynes284]

@chris koepp my point was, I think it is probably more reasonable to assume that the error rate of this guys dyno, plus the variation of each engine Ford made, plus any correction errors such a DA, are more likely to account for this discrepancy then Ford intentional underrating a few HP, which would not have made marketing sense for Ford. And let us not forget, a dyno can "say" whatever the operator wants it to "say"...

[@midnight347]

@@JoeHynes284 I promise you man 93 cobras were def underrated. If they really made 235 hp they would be lucky to hit 200 on a dyno if even that likely less. I have seen lots of them dynoed back in the day they commonly make 220-230 to the tires stock. They were most certainly underrated. It also put down damn near 290 torque and is only rated 285 or 290 or something at the flywheel. I assure you these cars were underrated its very obvious. Just like the 03 cobras rated 390 and some put close to that to the tires...I seen one lay down 381 bone stock. 2000 cobra r same thing. When it's a few hp here or there you can scream dyno error etc etc. This thing is easily making 30 or more hp than it should be based on its rating. That is alot when you're barely over 200 to begin with.

[@MF-Rell]

I see why ford with with the OHC and DOHC engines.

[@modlist6129]

There has to be something wrong I put on a k&n filter and made an extra 60 whp

[@jud-asinsmith-stansell2022]

U probably added the sticker.. Ive heard of that happening

[@mr.mckinnon5680]

Wait a minute... Do you want me to saturate my air filter in transmission fluid, and then expect that my engine will be able to breathe? I thought you guys were professionals? But then I remembered... This is advertising and marketing Channel. You're selling products. K&N filters are often associated with destroyed engines. Put one in your car, at your own risk.

[@hotrodray6802]

🔔🔔👍👍😎😎

[@danwatne4481]

Is that worth getting rid of the power steering, the car wouldn't be that much faster to realize that this car feels like shit now because I have no power steering.kind of a waste of time.Just buy new heads because that's what All fox mustangs need .The money you waste on bolt ons isn't worth it when you think you're saving money and you realize you just spent Too much on an exhaust and CAI like most mustang owners do when The stock fox 5.0 heads are restrictive and don't allow for any gain from the mods you made.Just put your money in to something worth while instead of wasting it on all this pep boys stuff.