Adding Upgrades To My Roguelike - Devlog 3

[@thomasrosebrough9062]

Here's some important key tips for a good boss battle: - Attacks that are strong but predictable/readable. It sounds obvious but this is huge, and it's really what makes players feel like they are getting better at your game when they start to see the patterns. - Phases. Nobody wants to fight the same attack forever. Starting a new phase is also a great time for a dynamic shift. Was the boss stationary before? Have it start moving. Was it shooting a short-range shotgun? Have it switch to a laser beam. - Personality. A boss isn't like a regular enemy, it's a character that the player is going to build a relationship with. Give it a little smirk between punches. Or a dizzy face after a spin attack. - Using the game to it's fullest. Boss fights are a special moment, so take fundamental mechanics of your game and play with them. Have your boss disable items, or be healed by bullets during a certain phase. Use the environment and have a boss that squirts slowing goo, or creates walls, or sends you back to the last room if you fall into his portal. If you are looking for boss fight inspiration, I recommend (in addition to the games you already played) Cuphead, DK Tropic Freeze, Hollow Knight, and of course the Souls games (Sekiro is my favorite for boss fights especially).

[@MeshiiPlays]

I literally JUST found this channel and really loved episode 1 and thought "huh I wonder if there's another one out" *posted 2 minutes ago*

[@HelperWesley]

The algorithm knows all. 🧠🤖 Kind of creepy. 😅

[@pijacklin9405]

My fav boss would be the corpse king from ultrakill because it first makes it feel powerful then tells you that hey you can just punch his punch

[@VertiDOOM]

My favorite boss in my favorite game is the first hero from skul the hero slayer. I just love the difficulty

[@coffinupastorm]

Here’s an idea since the slimes are “too cute to kill” make it an item! (potential spoilers) Favourite boss: Kill Pillars (ETG) •Love the multiple enemies being one boss, and when the others die the ones left alive become stronger Dragun (ETG) •It’s a frickn dragon with two uzis!! Lich (ETG PHASE 1 and 3) •You get to feel super powerful and cool taking down the final boss of a game, and dodging and weaving your way through a screen full of bullets definitely adds to the badass-ness Resourceful Rat (ETG Phase 1 and 2) •The concepts are very cool and creative, The knives, rat cheese traps, etc. Two frog dudes (Cuphead) •Two enemies working together as one boss, each one tying their attacks together; it’s like an art piece Isaac (TBOI) •A cut clean well boss fight

[@HelperWesley]

I am definitely thinking about doing something like that. 👀

[@orangeblanket7181]

The wither from minecraft. The fact that the odds are against your favour. You are a just a human with a sword or a bow. It’s a mythical-like creature with massive attacks

[@orangeblanket7181]

Also I feel like the -40% is a little to unbalanced. If you have 2 of them your damage will only be 20% of what it was

[@orangeblanket7181]

Also in my opinion the health orbs are too small

[@OldTires]

The explosion animation and sound effect are awesome. Great job!

[@TheSparkgod]

You are one of the few youtubers I actively wait for uploads from instead of just clicking on them once I see them in my recommended. It also looks like everything I said in my comment on the last video is fixed, and the new bullet colors read so much better since I and I'm guessing a lot more people have muscle memory regarding those colors. Game looks awesome! My favorite boss in my favorite game is Lil Hunter, because at first he seems like complete chaos and completely unbeatable, but once you learn the small little tricks around moving the fight in your favor, it isn't nearly as difficult.

[@HelperWesley]

I love to hear that people are interested and watching. It keeps me going. 👍 Lil Hunter, I'll have to look closer at that one. 👀

[@ghostlywhitesnow]

the spore you know from atomicrops all the gushy looking death effects and how it multiplies when you kill a big mushroom also it has bullet patterns/bullets only used in this boss fight.🍄🍄🍄

[@itsmidge]

I've been dragging my feet on adding upgrades to my game, this helped nudge me in the right direction with a few new ideas and your meta analysis of other games was really interesting. Good work!

[@HelperWesley]

I think mechanical upgrades are always the best, but some stat upgrade fluff can really make the other ones shine. 🤔 Getting a few extra shot upgrades and firerate upgrades will turn the player in to a fountain of bullets, for example. Good luck with your game. 👍

[@sKryly1]

Gabriel from Ultrakill. The whole game is just killing mindless enemies, but then you get to Gabriel and he actually speaks to you, with voice-overs nonetheless. It comes out of the blue, but it fits in nicely as a way to build up the boss fight and the character at the same time. Also the fight is insane

[@pijacklin9405]

I personally think the corpse king is way more umpf

[@sKryly1]

@@pijacklin9405 that's a good boss as well, Gabriel just stuck with me

[@davidepitone3343]

Great video! One of my favorite bosses is the soul master from hollow knight, because at first he seems very strong, but as you master his moveset you learn that he has a few and predictable attacks, with one in particular (along with few others) that has a huge window for attack him. I also really like the second phase twist, where he changes his moveset , making more dangerous and risky to attack him. Overall, as you master his moveset, he’s very predictable and it’s easy to understand. That’s because I think that taking ispiration from him could make a great first boss in your game! :)

[@cristobalpoblete7175]

My favorite boss fight would be the Trigger Twins, from Enter The Gungeon. What i like is that they both have the same atack pattern, but they aren't coordinated. In the mayority of boss fights, you do the same over and over, cause the boss is coordinated, in this particular bossfight, you don't. That is because the do whatever they want, so you have to improsive, and adapt to the situation both put you in, and i find that very interesting.

[@grunchchristmas]

Gotta love the Beholster. Big eyeball dude with a bunch of guns, and each gun has a different attack pattern. As the Beholster loses health, the frequency of different gun attack increase, causing them to overlap, such as giant laser + homing rockets, or circle of bullets + minion spawn.

[@arod7113]

So cool man, I've been getting into making one too. I wish you the best and good luck.

[@MorbidGames666]

This actually is good information on game design. Thank you for putting all your testing in the video!

[@HelperWesley]

I sort of thought people would find that part boring, but I'm glad I was wrong. You're all just as excited about game stats as I am.😅

[@KiluaRotmg]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching this from start to finish. Very immersive pacing!

[@fronter8398]

I love it when bosses are smug/confident/cocky

[@maple4998]

My favorite boss I have is blixer from jsab because the fact that he spawns arms and shoots beams out of his own eye is incredible

[@shpimpasta1975]

Amazing video as usual! The coin idéa was really cool, I haven't really seen that approach in any other game I can think of!

[@octo_dev]

My fav boss is shovel knight from plague knights campaign in shovel knight. I like how you know the abilities of the boss. For your game you can make (for an exampal a slime ) have stronger attacks but dare still resemble the slimes attacks. (sorry for the bad English)

[@HelperWesley]

Oh yeah, I do usually love that in games, where the boss is an advanced version of an existing enemy, with an expanded set of attacks. But still similar to the original enemy.

[@letsgonowxd]

Thanks to you, i tried nuclear throne. And now i can't stop playing it! 😅

[@HelperWesley]

It's such a juicy game!

[@mr_floax]

My favorite boss from any game is the photoshop/omega flowey fight from undertale. I like it because it's changes the battles of undertale where usually it happens in a white box where you survive bullet hell attacks but this time the white box is your whole screen. It gives you an extra challenge as well, take the Sans fight from undertale as an example with the white box.

[@StevePixelFace]

Another great devlog. The game is really coming together. Not a roguelike but I have a really found memory of beating the Ruby and Emerald weapons in FF7. It just felt like such a epic long battle, a major accomplishment for my young self.

[@HelperWesley]

I played through FF7 and I had to look those up since it had been so long. I'd completely forgotten about them now. 🤔 The most lingering memories I have from the FF series are from Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, it's just using the FF world as a wrapper, but I really enjoyed it. Playing that game in co-op is a tonne of fun.

[@danielrobbins9586]

I think that the concierge from dead cells is one of the best bosses ever. At first, it feels impossible but after you get more skill it is easy to beat hitless

[@HelperWesley]

I haven't played Dead cells yet, but I really should, I've heard good things about it. 🤔

[@ChristianZenker]

Nice Update, i like it 🙂 About the Boss. I like the Final Boss from "Prinz of persia 1" where you had to fight your "mirror self". I like that you needed to find some special drink before to kill him without killing yourself in the same time.

[@notkritss4007]

Favorite boss is Calus from Destiny 2. The puzzle mechanics were what got me so excited about it.

[@Sulfur-Cretin]

Klaus from don't starve is really cool. He's a big dude that has 2 support enemies that do annoying attacks. If you just kill Klaus then the supports run away, but if you kill one of the supports Klaus gets angry and becomes much harder to fight. You get to pick your poison

[@jannikderdschinn]

same, Ihe is the coolest and skillbased Boss in Dont starve

[@HelperWesley]

Ooooh, I like that. 👀 I do like the dual bosses, where if you kill one the other gets harder. It adds a difficulty spike where you'd expect it to get easier, with only 1 left. Klaus sounds like a nice twist on that idea.

[@elephantchessboard9060]

Little late on the favourite boss question, since you already made that video, but I love the Great Armor in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow. It's great because it has two different attacks, telegraphs both clearly, kind of similar, but not fully. So you feel really smart when you predict what to do against it. Also you can avoid both attacks by dodging away, but in one of the attacks you can, when you feel confident enough, dodge towards the armor into a small safe spot under the sword, so you can get some free hits in. It plays really well for different skill levels of players. The other monsters and bosses in that game are really great too. I think well telegraphed attacks are just really awesome.

[@rewater]

The bear from the long dark, it leaves you for dead but it's nothing truly special but it really made the lone walks more frightening afterwards, then you must fight it again but for real. (perhaps you 'win' against the boss, but it can attack you later until you actually defeat it).

[@raptarr8]

Phantom Striker from Shovel Knight's "King of Cards" campaign is one of my favorite bosses. I didn't think too much of him on my first encounter, but one of the objectives in the challenge mode is to defeat the boss under a certain time limit with no equipment and only two hitpoints. That challenge forced me to completely rethink how I approached the boss, and I had a lot of fun learning the boss's patterns and taking advantage of all the little openings it gave for you to attack, and the telegraphs which allowed you to easily predict the boss's movement and react.

[@GamesBySaul]

Nice work with the upgrades, hearing about the research you did in other games was very cool too! Favourite boss, now recently I've been playing Elden RIng, and Radahn is currently my favourite due to the backstory. And a more similar game, one like Hades has a load of bosses I enjoy, like the Valykrie sisters, I have a few reasons why I think them, 1) I enjoy the interactions your character has with them, 2) I enjoy how the 3 swap between each other and 3) I enjoy how they have patterns you can learn but still provide a challenge!

[@HelperWesley]

Thanks. I know the sisters boss, but I haven't actually watched the fight to break it down. 🤔 Some people said hornet from hollow knight because of the characterization of the character, similar to your Elden ring boss with their backstory. 🤔

[@GamesBySaul]

@@HelperWesley Would recommend the three sisters are a lot of fun and bring a lot of variation to the game! And yeah, I think bosses really work when you can almost connect with them? But I also think that might be a bit overscope for your game 😋

[@sealiusmaximus2330]

Asgore is probably my favourite boss as when you fight him for the first time, you really feel the depth of fighting the final boss.

[@nhamnham7938]

Hi! Thank you for the video, Here are my favourite bosses: Megratha (Hades), I love the fire from the ground following you and you have to dash repetitively to dodge them. Enchantress (Shovel Knight), They can remove the platform tile(?) that you are standing on and create new tiles, I hope this help!

[@rabbodwins]

I really enjoy the mantis lords from hollow knight. 2 stage battles are fun, but how the 2nd stage is the first stage but with a twist makes it interesting

[@HelperWesley]

Yeah. Definitely enjoy the mod battle change up. But if the attacks are completely different it would feel strange. 🤔

[@Felixxxx__]

One of my favourite bosses is from blazing beaks called newt He has an attack mode where he sticks his tongue out and you can counter this by going around round a wooden pole and his tongue gets stuck. Another one is where he sends his minions out who do little damage but spawn in crowds. He also has a defence mode were you can’t hit him. Another is the devil from Cuphead multiple different phrases all different from the rest. Hope this helped keep up the great work

[@jarellkearney6083]

Favorite boss is probably the emerald golem fight from the messenger, it serves as a turning point in the story and is a great test of the mechanics the player would have learned up to that point

[@hawkise]

My favourite boss is a dragon from God of War, because it`s huge and epic and it has several stages) also nice video dude, hope you will keep going with it

[@mylesaquino]

I really like the Darkest Dungeon Necromancer boss for making you alternate between focusing on the boss itself and the adds!

[@HelperWesley]

Oooh. Having to switch focus during the fight. 👀

[@AndyGun11]

Snatcher from A Hat In Time, I think the mechanic of taking the one thing that you've been using the whole game is very interesting.. Maybe you could make a boss that takes your gun? probably not for the first boss, but maybe the second or third?

[@hooling5284]

I really like this boss. It’s a skeleton king and I really like how it spawn enemies, you can also hit it but if you get to close he’ll hit you. And he also spawns bullets, also homing bullets to. So it adds a difficulty to the boss but you normally have weapons you unlocked through the run to stand a chance.

[@Badsiner]

back in and recently got soft soft again, it felt strange and i had previously just taught myself the software. Finding your videos is helping

[@mcchomk]

SMT IV's Minotaur. He's the first "proper" boss, and he is designed to "filter" the bad players from the good players, meaning that if you don't understand and exploit the mechanics of the game (In SMT's case, the press turn system and stat altering moves), he will wreck you. SMT Nocturne's Matador has a similar purpose, focusing on the stat altering moves part of the system.

[@namco402]

It's so easy to look at bosses from other roguelikes or 2D games and try and basically just copy but it's always interesting taking mechanics from 3D bosses and try and incorporate that into a new setting which makes them stand out, little details are always cool to put in that makes things unique like Hawkeye Gough from ds1 you can fight him normally but canonically he's blind so if you use a ring where your footsteps are silent he doesn't attack till the player attacks but if you don't know that or if you're not paying attention to the story he shoots you with arrows while you're running around

[@olinternet9407]

The snake looking boss in the biding of Isaac is pretty cool

[@Goofy_Geek]

I think the golem miniboss from Moonlighter is really cool, and something like that would work pretty well in your game.

[@paranthesisism]

one of my favorite bosses has to be the empress of light from terraria. it's a boss that throws a shit ton of attacks at you but has an attack pattern that once nailed down makes the boss relatively easy but still a challenge to face.

[@GoodmansGhost]

I don't have a favorite boss, but one thing I like in bosses are when they are glass canons. Take the classic Sonic games for example: Bosses can kill you in two hits, in a few of the games a single hit, but you can kill them in 3-6 hits yourself. Contrast that with a lot of the more modern sonic games where health is often infinite (as long as you can reach the rings of course) but the boss takes ages to defeat. That sort of stuff is fine for a final boss, but not the regular ones, it just makes it a slog more often than not. I also much prefer if they vary up their movements and firing patterns as they lose health.

[@Samwich10]

Wall of Flesh terraria. The boss to be summoned has the guide npc be burned in lava or getting a guide voodoo doll and throwing it into lava. The fight takes place in the underworld, hell, and I really like the base mechanic where it starts at one side and forces you to run to the other. You are doing this while lasers, worms flesh eaters and all sorts of stuff are attacking you. This boss enables hard mode. Which is basically later game.

[@notjojuice]

Favorite boss has to be George, god of pills from the roguelike Neon Abyss. Its interesting because he has 2 stages where one is a jump attack and the other is shooting.

[@DeletedUserOfficial]

so cool!

[@mountandblade77]

My favorite Boss'(es) have to be Vergil from Devil May Cry 3, you fight him 3 times in the story. And he has a move set extremely similar to your own, being your twin brother. Having a sort of rival through the game gives you something to strive for since he largely kicks your ass the first time through. And being so similar to yourself makes him an extremely fun fight since you largely understand how he works. It makes for an engaging battle that really tests how well you know your own abilities. Weaving in and out of his strikes, countering with your own, getting blindsided when he parries you only to smack you halfway across the stage. It's such an intricate battle.

[@carterfulghum5245]

The first boss that comes to mind is Hades, from Hades. He's just a very difficult boss to defeat, and has an impressive number of very different attacks and to go with it, attack patterns. Basically, he's the final boss, and you have to keep fighting him and losing, to learn from your mistakes and to basically memorize his attacks until you finally beat him after it suddenly becomes very easy after dodging all his attacks.

[@worriedpixels]

Flaahgra from Metroid Prime. Keep it busy by attacking with arm cannon and missile attacks. At the same time you have to attack solar reflectors so that they point away from the boss (it loses its source of power). When Flaahgra is stunned, you quickly turn into the morph ball to deliver a bomb. It's an interesting boss because you use the environment and several of Samus' skills. It's a puzzle as well as a boss, like a lot of Nintendo bosses.

[@Skeffles]

Excellent progress! The card art looks amazing but the coins suit so much better. As for bosses, I really enjoy big challenges. Something that gives you a long journey to even see the boss and when you eventually kill the boss you feel accomplished. For example the Fight Cave on Old School RuneScape. There are 62 waves of enemies to pass before the the boss spawns. If you are careful you can pray against every attack he does but if you mess up you have to go through all the waves again. The point and click gameplay seems boring from a far but beating that boss is an absolute thrill.

[@HelperWesley]

Oh Runescape, I miss that game. Probably nostalgia though.😅 Build up before a boss, I'll think on that. Maybe I can do something like that for the final boss.🤔

[@pokintethesequel138]

Biker from Hotline Miami! His attacks are really simple but rather hard ( so simple its hard !) His attacks are predictable with him walking towards you , but if he is to close he kills you and throwing his cleaver at you which you must dodge. the cleaver hits the wall and you hit him repeat twice and he is dead.

[@videos-od1ql]

The dragun from enter the gungeon and v2 from ultrakill are both great bosses because of the different phases they have and a limitless approachability to the fight making it your own each time. Also all the bosses in doom eternal have great phases too making you need to switch your playstyle in between each one.

[@gamedevmat7584]

I still love the First Kirby Boss, the big Tree, he is like the best first boss, he is just hard enough that you have to know how to play the game to beat him, but not hard enough that he will beat you if you have learned the simple idea of what you are suppose to be doing.

[@hollisneufeld1216]

My favourite bosses are either Empress of Light from Terraria or Mantis Lords from Hollow Knight. They are both challenging, but it’s fun to learn their attacks and master them. Also they have good music

[@HelperWesley]

That's going to be a tricky thing to get right with my game. Attack patterns that are difficult, but fun to master. I'll have to think on it, before diving in to the boss itself. 🤔

[@HoodedOlive]

Yeah sisters of battle is amazing.

[@namco402]

One of my favorite bosses of all time is the Looking Glass nights from Dark Souls 2 the mechanic of summoning little Crystal bad guys to help kill you is cool ( although it was really cool that they can summon other real life players as well to try and kill you) but also the fact that him having a massive Shield on one side completely nullified attacks so you had to get crafty like wait until he does a electric beam so you can Dash to his side that is weak for some damage

[@shrom6549]

In my head, I think an upgrade that allows for some kind of contact damage reflection could be interesting! Perhaps also, some kinds of 'super upgrades' which you can only get a limited number of per run, maybe after defeating a boss. Could be a change to how your weapon fires, or some kind of powerful ability? Also! My favorite game bosses are probably, in no specific order Wall of Flesh (Terraria) Plantera (Terraria) Imp Overlord (Risk of Rain 1 and 2) Deerclops (DST)

[@hinkenborp]

The Scale from the game Furi is probably one of my all time favorite bosses, as it also shares the title of least favorite boss. The knowledge of furi's game mechanics required to beat that fight are pretty absurd on even the easy difficulty, let alone finally beating the top difficulty. The challenge and payoff of finally beating it is what makes it so fun!

[@concretesword2205]

i love all the bosses in Moonlighter (it’s a rogue-lite you should totally play it if you haven’t) i don’t know if you’ll include lore in your game but what i like the most about them is that you find clues in the different floors of the dungeons foreshadowing what the boss will be like (i’ll say it again, you NEED to play Moonlighter if you haven’t yet)

[@HelperWesley]

I've played Moonlighter, I dig shop mechanic games and roguelites, so it seemed like a good fit. 👍

[@maddmadd2685]

i love the upgrades keep up the good work

[@midzimidzi471]

My favorite boss is Safer Sephiroth in the og FF7 because of his Supernova skill. It deals a lot of damage but it wont kill your party members and gives status effect if you don't have a ribbon. I like it when bosses always has a move that puts you on the edge it makes combat much more intense xD

[@HelperWesley]

Oh yeah, pushing you right to the brink, but giving you a chance to recover. If you never got you down to low health, then the fight would probably be boring. 🤔

[@andrewnursh]

My personal favourite bosses are, Monstro from TBOI, Moon Lord from Terraria and the Beetle Queen from Risk of Rain 2. Anyways, I enjoyed the video!

[@melle_the_pelle]

Here's a tip: Remember to always make the hitboxes of enemy attacks slightly smaller than the sprites, as this can lead to more tense moments and overall makes the game more forgiving (assuming you didn't already do that)

[@HelperWesley]

Already did, but thank you. The next bit of advice you comment with I might have missed, so feel free to keep them coming if you notice something. 👍

[@A_non-youtuber_guy]

love game devlogs and rougelike games so this game devlog series gonna be masterpiece👌 also cuz the next devlog will be about bosses here's a idea: a giant knight that shoots at you slashs from his sword and when you trying to attack he will use his shield so the only way to damage him is when *HE* attacking, hope you liked the concept👍

[@valentineDev]

all the animations are soooo clean. my favorite boss is probably Dino piranha from mario galaxy, but nostalgia is a pretty big factor here lmao

[@HelperWesley]

Nostalgia is definitely a factor, but Nintendo usually does a good job with their bosses. I actually learned the rule of 3 from an examination of their games.

[@tauheedgamedev2388]

Its surprising how similar the rooms before bosses and number of upgrades are across all the games, I think you have the winning formula. The coin upgrades also look cool and definitely fit better then the cards. My Favourite Boss has to be the final Boss in Just Shapes & Beats

[@HelperWesley]

I was a little surprised at first, but then..... if it works... why fix it? Right? 😅 Some things are just good design, like how they all use similarly colored bullets and things like that. 🤔

[@cantwontdo9127]

my favorite boss fight is the ultimate experience from crosscode, it really lives up to its name.

[@doomer3468]

My favorite boss is hand of the king in dead cells because of how complicated their moves are and the design of the boss its so cool :D

[@HelperWesley]

I'll have to look that one up. 👀 I've yet to play dead cells, I've seen gameplay of it, but I really should give it a shot. 🤔

[@IsaiahGamble]

My favorite boss is the Eater of Worlds from terraria. I like the balance of difficulty (if you didn't make an arena) of always being able to hit the boss, but the boss taking up so much space that it's also really easy to get hit by them.

[@foxtrot000]

My favourite bosses are the drednoughts from deep rock galactic not any particular. I love the fact that you have to shot them in special weak spots, so you don’t just shoot at them standing still and sometimes they even come out of the floor!

[@poulift]

I don't know if this has been said but you could color code the coins based on power/rarity/fun like copper/silver/gold/red. Favorite boss is Hoarah Loux from Elden Ring, you get to see raw strength as a weapon and I think that's super cool.

[@HelperWesley]

I'd thought about coloring the upgrades for that with bronze silver and gold..... but then I'd have to develop a rarity system and all that..... aaaaannnnddddd...... I'm lazy. 😅 But when the whole game is done, and I go back through to improve/add mechanics, maybe that'll be on the list. 🤔

[@poulift]

@@HelperWesley it's definitely much more of a polish thing for sure, just thought i would bring it up since most roguelikes do have a rarity systems even if it's hidden behind the scenes.

[@Gremwu]

I like just about any undertale encounter mainly because there is little pauses in gameplay (for both the player and the boss) where the boss breaks up the fight with some dialog or something like that. (it can even be comedic depending on the personality) it just feels natural to have some dialog sprinkled in a fight..

[@gavingrawrock9589]

I know I’m late but one of my favorite bosses is Gutsy Bones, from Yokai Watch Busters. The whole theme of Gutsy Bones is that it’s a giant skeleton that uses giant coins to get stuff from a giant capsule machine, and what capsule it gets is a different attack. So if it’s red, it’s a fire attack, if it’s green it heals you, if it’s black it blocks your vision for a bit if you touch the areas it makes. And you don’t want gold. An RNG based boss would be cool

[@redtankgaming7881]

I think a cool concept for a boss from a game I really enjoy (Bloons tower defense 6) is Lych. I like it because it heals from your upgrades and sends out damaging shields once it loses parts of its health. Another thing I enjoy is when a boss is just a big enemy like the big goomba from new super Mario bros DS.

[@HelperWesley]

I think I'm going to be going the big enemy route, upgraded versions of the existing enemies with similar, but upgraded, mechanics. 🤔

[@CK-username]

Shodan aka The Brain of the Many from System Shock 2 is my favorite one as "she" was alongside my journey through the game 🤗

[@query8265]

My favorite boss is Godrick the Grafted from Elden Ring, because he is just about perfectly balanced for early game. He has this attack where he deals very low damage in an area around him for a couple seconds before doing either a move that is easy to punish if you're close or a move that is difficult to dodge and punish if you're far away. That attack specifically is really neat in my opinion because it forces you to move away from him and then back towards him. Also, his second phase tests almost an entirely different set of skills than the first, which provides a great change of pace.

[@HelperWesley]

A few of the comments have mentioned that, bosses that push and pull you along during the fight. Ones that get you moving around. 👀

[@ogpandamonium]

Im not sure if its my favourite ever boss and it certainly isnt my favourite game but koloktos from the legend of zelda: skyward sword is a bloody amazing boss. The spectacle of pulling of his sword arms and using his big heavy swords to slice through his chest is so exciting and fun!

[@someonefarewell9890]

I think the broken vessel/lost kin from Hollow knight might by taking the crown in my case. The aspekt i always loved the sword combat, and this is the fight that utilizes that to its full extent. There’s also something endearing in the concept of fighting someone with similiar skill and abilities to you.

[@theothetorch8016]

Mantis Lords. You of know their power, yet you challenge them. It feels more like some duel than a bossfight. They are also easy to learn and hard to master. The way the fight increases in difficulty mid way is a surprising moment and it just works really well.

[@theothetorch8016]

Also, watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3Ksk4ihf9ScZrc

[@HelperWesley]

I'll definitely be adding phases. I love the progression of getting part way in to the fight and then having to pick it up as the boss gets harder/changes it up later in the fight.

[@banish1265]

My favorite boss is Nightmare King Grimm from Hollow Knight. I like the fast paced attack patterns, the music and the setting

[@jackwoolterton9622]

My favourite boss is pure vessel from hollow knight. I think what makes them (and most hollow knight bosses) is his Rhythm and predictably. Once you can dodge all of his moves and find spots to attack in, it’s just a case of stringing it together like a ‘dance’. Dark Souls also has very similar boss design in my opinion which is why lots of people enjoy it.

[@leandrodecarli986]

my favourite bosses are usually from Zelda and/or Celeste. I´ve never liked bosses from games like isaac or roguelikes, they usually don´t feel like actual bosses, just big enemies that give you a bigger reward before completing a section. What I love in bosses are ways to defeat them that aren´t just deal damage to big HP bars, like using different items or your surroundings

[@brandondavies8220]

My favourite boss is mother or mega Satan from binding of Isaac, these bosses change the environment, change play styles and throw a bullet hell wall at you, you have to be ready to clench your butt and dodge duck dive and weave. Also honourable mention the beast, music, art and animation is amazing with the 4 horse men and mechanics

[@granttjamess]

Shadow Blot from Epic Mickey because the entire game builds up to that one boss fight and the scope of it is insanely huge.

[@TUC12341]

KZbin algorithm: we will watch your career with great interest But nah great little series from a chill guy who is passionate about his great little game, I don’t know what is my favorite boss but I’ll let you know 2 things that I can’t stand in the first boss room of a lot of games, Spawners and tanks. Both with the idea that it’s just jot fun to play as you slowly kill then with some meh upgrades you got (meh at least for damages sake) Oh! Also you may want to check out 20 min till dawn, it’s kinda a rogue like wave survivor that has a-lot of interesting upgrades and characters to draw inspiration from!

[@HelperWesley]

I have seen that game, it got suggested to me by the algorithm after I watched some videos about Brotato. I've been eyeing that one too for ideas. 👍

[@TUC12341]

@@HelperWesley honestly check out the “endless mode” as it is a bit more inline with how your game goes, in that one you can stack upgrades( in that game it also has a lot of negitive effects along with positives) so while it might not be the best to base it off of it’ll at least show ya how the balances can get (although it’s much more bullet heaven then yours)

[@El7he]

A boss I really love is lil hunter from nuclear throne (unpopular opinion 😭) what's interesting is his movement mechanics and the explosions when he lands. Loved the new upgrades!

[@HelperWesley]

Another commenter actually mentioned Lil Hunter too. 👀

[@NopProgrammingSkills]

Fav is when they clone you. So you fight the evil you but with buffs. Could be cool to take all the buffs and reverse the negatives for positives as the anti you.

[@HelperWesley]

Oh, that would be really cool. If you go for a full damage build and your anti version has crazy high fire rate instead. 👀

[@henryfirefly8826]

I think a very good boss Idea is the eye of cthulu from terraria the idea of a boss that gradually starts dashing quicker and quicker sounds very intriguing

[@codexed-i]

Mine is Empress of Light also from terraria.

[@leaf4645]

I know a simple one but I do love Skeletron Prime from Terraia, You can take the safer slower route by killing all their arms and weapons. Or take the harder faster route by just danging its head. (edit) Also just any boss from Cuphead.

[@BerHartflorido]

Sans:history and his bonetastic.

[@atentionspice4442]

I love the raiden shogun from genshin (spoiler warning? Ig) bc she has some parkour like stuff that you have to jump over, attacks that you have to hit with a specific element or else you'll get one shotted, attack sequences that you can eventually learn and varipus phases(one that dmg is very reduced bc she has like a shield)

[@collinvisser7108]

The Guardian from slay the spire - you hit with alot of damge they go into there shell - if you cannot keep up the damage they wipe the floor with you. Feels like to hocked a big fish you have to give line and pull and the right times. - with the Guardian you need to attack in the correct cycle to do damage and move him into a new state - then wait and build up your armer for the big attack if you do not have a lot of damage to give.

[@HelperWesley]

I've yet to play slay the spire, but I've been meaning to. That definitely sounds interesting, especially if it's unique to that boss. 🤔

[@jannikderdschinn]

My favorite Boss is actually the Eye of Chutulu in Terraria, because I like simple Bosses with two stages(the secound harder than the outher)and I like it when the Player can dash out of every attack from the Boss so that the Player can actually kill just with skill and time every Boss... Idk why this sentence is so long:C🍉

[@HelperWesley]

Oh yeah, straight forward 2 stage enemies can be a lot of fun. Especially when their attacks are well telegraphed so the player can feel great after fighting them and getting out without taking any hits. Revita does the whole "2 stages" thing, it makes each boss fight more interesting, and gives you a feeling of progression during the fight.

[@mr_clean575]

Cynthia from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl I think what makes it a good battle is: -There is a lot of build-up to the fight(the whole game is leading up to this fight, you've essentially fought a few mini-bosses right beforehand, and you meet Cynthia throughout the game) -There's a definite power-spike that makes the battle more difficult than you would expect if you haven't already played the game -There feels like validation for the grinding you have done during the game(rogue-likes generally seem to do the opposite of this, for example you COULD beat "Enter the Gungeon" on your first time, but you don't because you need to learn how to git gud first and learn the mechanics first), but it feels good to have some kind of tangible progression in some way

[@stbadhon542]

Hello, It'd be great if you can make a video about magnatic effect extention! :)

[@HelperWesley]

Put suggestions like this in a comment on the GDevelop channel. Someone who has never heard of that extension might read the comment and check it out. 👍 And I do read all of the comments over there. 👍

[@clapostrophy]

BLACK RAINBOW from Narita Boy. I think it’s the unsettling appearance, the sound design (scream-y!), and especially the (handdrawn) transitions between his different states. Another one from the same game that really stuck was the fight with THE GLOVE. All pretty cool and different attacks that are linked to his rather small gestures. That one took me pretty long to defeat (one attack gave me an extra hard time that includes a randomized pattern of blocks… though never feeling unfair) - and somehow I even enjoyed the detail that defeating The Glove resulted in rebooting (instead of destroying) him and getting him rid of the code that had previously corrupted him. And well, why not close with a third one from Narita Boy? The killer robot H.E.X that is fought during a heavy-metal concert. While I don’t remember that much of the fight, the setting itself was just incredible fun.