Addressing the HSR Creator Experience Server Drama

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IWinToLose Gaming

IWinToLose Gaming

Күн бұрын

Yup, some drama is going down in the Honkai Star Rail community with the Creator Experience Server by HoYoverse and I'm part of it so I gotta talk about it.
#hsr #honkaistarrail

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@cam_6688
@cam_6688 2 ай бұрын
Just remember that iwtl said “armpiteron” the entire video and a hoyoverse employee approved it 😂😂
@LazyCatOnTheRoof
@LazyCatOnTheRoof 2 ай бұрын
W HoYo employee YEP
@joeparas
@joeparas 2 ай бұрын
AND sniffed.
@deita2191
@deita2191 2 ай бұрын
The one who sniffs.
@sladewilson3337
@sladewilson3337 2 ай бұрын
That was all i remember from the video 😂😂
@itahasin77
@itahasin77 2 ай бұрын
The Milky Way Ranger with Armpit Meta 😅
@alawe-memes9022
@alawe-memes9022 2 ай бұрын
You know it bad when Iwin address it.
@ssarellas
@ssarellas 2 ай бұрын
It's only bad because tectone whined about it
@traincore1955
@traincore1955 2 ай бұрын
IWTL is the voice of reason. The dude is professional and knows what he is doing without all the b.s. involved. The only actual adult in the gacha space.
@dazz_2d
@dazz_2d 2 ай бұрын
ok buddy ur so wrong its diabolical, literaly straight up beyond ignorant statement, some dick riding happening here, only actual adult in the gacha space? wtf @@traincore1955
@kurotsuki12
@kurotsuki12 2 ай бұрын
@@ssarellas And that was really fast, i mean he is the drama king so i understand that he wants to create more drama but damn, he did speed run drama queen.
@wave266
@wave266 2 ай бұрын
and even Xlice also addressed it on stream even though he said he doesn't like drama, he actually gave some based takes on this whole situation ngl
@sonobii
@sonobii 2 ай бұрын
Someone at Hoyo officially approved Acheron armpit sniffing. Let that sink in...
@danielmick5236
@danielmick5236 2 ай бұрын
What?
@Rickety_Russ55
@Rickety_Russ55 2 ай бұрын
@@danielmick5236 Did you actually watch his acheron video bro?
@Lordmaster316
@Lordmaster316 2 ай бұрын
​@@danielmick5236they review the video then approved to upload it
@blackpepper2610
@blackpepper2610 2 ай бұрын
Who's acheron? Is that new character?
@ManicRipper2
@ManicRipper2 2 ай бұрын
I reckon they saw it then asked for 1 more armpit zoom in
@choshim.
@choshim. 2 ай бұрын
I swear, you're the one of the only few content creators in the HYV scene that doesn't do stupid shit. Dad jokes aside, your mature levelheadedness is a huge reason why I believe you're successful. you don't engage in drama with other creators, and you focus on what we're ALL here for. the game. which is why you were allowed to join the early access server. you dont farm engagement in a nasty way like so many others. I'm glad that you exist in this space man, keep being you.
@Blackbeard925
@Blackbeard925 2 ай бұрын
well said!
@Remls
@Remls 2 ай бұрын
hear, hear
@agnulack318
@agnulack318 2 ай бұрын
Exactly...
@crownedking_cj8890
@crownedking_cj8890 2 ай бұрын
Imagine saying this now then a couple months to a year he’s in a scandal, I do hope u would keep the same view, because y’all act like y’all know these ppl who u just see through a screen
@NoBody-py5zd
@NoBody-py5zd 2 ай бұрын
Dad jokes....lol I like them for some reason 😅
@ashleyking2002
@ashleyking2002 2 ай бұрын
Its totally ok to take an opportunity like this!! Like what Brax said in his vid, someone who does content creation as a job and loves mihoyo games would love an opportunity like this. Just keep making the fun vids with the math and youll always have my view and support.
@sofieberger8851
@sofieberger8851 2 ай бұрын
Hoyo should at least let other creaters react to it. The source video is already "filtered" and got released hours/days in advance, so its already positive.
@Xlice
@Xlice 2 ай бұрын
from cc to cc, i agree with basically everything you said and appreciate you taking the time to express your feedback in a fully structured video opinions that i expressed in various mediums are kinda scattered throughout due to there being multiple people present or addressing things on the spot so hearing your thoughts in a constructive manner helps me reaffirm my opinions keep doing ur thing chief
@mischarowe
@mischarowe 2 ай бұрын
I wish more people would stop and listen to you guys instead of just writing you off.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 2 ай бұрын
👍
@aikuch8371
@aikuch8371 2 ай бұрын
Yoo waiting for your scambox again! 😂
@arisenpai
@arisenpai 2 ай бұрын
I asked KZbin to hide Tectone videos so I didn't even know there was any drama lol
@ocher8931
@ocher8931 2 ай бұрын
Same. I have not watched any of his stuff since the last nonsense but STILL he stirs the pot. 😭
@OrRaino
@OrRaino 2 ай бұрын
Isn't Mtashed also Mad about it? since he got blacklisted his content for Hoyoverse is at the edge now
@cat6th363
@cat6th363 2 ай бұрын
Same. But last week, me watching Mrpokee and he was saying tectone helped him, so I'm like "maybe I was wrong". Not even a week and tectone back on drama. Not even 30 pulls can calm him down.
@user-qd9pk9ld7t
@user-qd9pk9ld7t 2 ай бұрын
Yo, same! I actually learned about it from recent Mtashed clip.
@darkwisher831
@darkwisher831 2 ай бұрын
@@OrRainoMtashed is mad because he won’t get enough views because his videos will be out later/old info. Which is dumb because he doesn’t believe and value the content he puts out.
@guobacertified
@guobacertified 2 ай бұрын
Man that first second says a lot. I hope you are doing good with everything going on rn mate. You got a much deserved opportunity and I look forward to seeing all the new possibilities you spoke of :D I think the QNA mechanics stuff sounds great for the community
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 2 ай бұрын
​@@xiahe6708guoba doesnt engage in drama, only once
@buzzsawkhan
@buzzsawkhan 2 ай бұрын
Hoping you get in the program yourself soom Big Bear. 😎
@dvl009
@dvl009 2 ай бұрын
yooo little guoba its been a while. i think its time FOR ROUND 3 GOGOGO GUOBA DRAMA TRILOGY FINALE
@RieGazer
@RieGazer 2 ай бұрын
one my fav hsr creator is here 🐻
@kkj_-ry4kt
@kkj_-ry4kt 2 ай бұрын
Hope you get into hsr creator program too
@clashtitan9904
@clashtitan9904 2 ай бұрын
take shot every time he says "Name pending"
@adpfgaming7472
@adpfgaming7472 2 ай бұрын
I’ll die with the amount😂😂😂
@CosminFirsov
@CosminFirsov 2 ай бұрын
Alcohol poisoning pending …
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 2 ай бұрын
WE'RE CHALLENGING VENTI WITH THIS ONE
@galax_y9270
@galax_y9270 2 ай бұрын
hsr community failing to differentiate between negative criticism and slander is wild
@kanade8776
@kanade8776 2 ай бұрын
HSR community?! bro its just KEKTONE that doesn't even understand the word "slander" 💀
@reezwave
@reezwave 2 ай бұрын
Dude no one cares about this if dicktone didn't make a video about it. (And that tweet about misinformation saying the CCs can't say bad thing etc.)
@paulyvii
@paulyvii 2 ай бұрын
the only problem is tectone and mtashed. without them life would be way better
@Zerocyxone9
@Zerocyxone9 2 ай бұрын
Its only tectone who does not understand this… 😂 dont include HSR community in this.
@funghoul693
@funghoul693 2 ай бұрын
when im telling yall the day tectone and mtashed leave hoyo games communities is the day we’re finally free from this types of petty dramas
@lambooo9997
@lambooo9997 2 ай бұрын
Take rest IWtL, you seems tired and looks like still not 100% recovered yet from your sickness, hope you recover soon!
@deedee3355
@deedee3355 2 ай бұрын
He need a couple armpit inhaler from Acheron to get healthier 🥹
@roreinu2239
@roreinu2239 2 ай бұрын
I do think this is a step in the right direction, I check leaks to plan my primogems.. but I don't like Story leaks, Map leaks they even leak the music sometimes.
@venexo1434
@venexo1434 2 ай бұрын
I hate story leaks with every ounce of my being. I got spoiled on so much shit like Furinas design. So I basically told myself to never watch any leaks again to avoid that shit
@juampisito
@juampisito 2 ай бұрын
Dw, the only one blowing this out of proportion is Tectone because that = money and views. Good guides creators will likely enter the program with time, because those are the people useful in this kind of pre-release content.
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 2 ай бұрын
tectone the manchild somehow makes a drama out of everything 💀
@demonlewds
@demonlewds 2 ай бұрын
@@roxas5071true and real
@juampisito
@juampisito 2 ай бұрын
@@roxas5071 Yes but he knows what he is doing, he is monetizing the sht out of this, he is "earning" a lot more money than the amount he would "earn", had he gotten in the private server. Because what is he going to do? React to the animations and say they are cool? That would be it.
@traincore1955
@traincore1955 2 ай бұрын
Tectone throws bottle of milk Tectone can't reach bottle of milk Tectone then cries about bottle of milk
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 2 ай бұрын
@@juampisito is he monetizing mainly from streams and the .1% of the playerbase who wants to boycott genshin and throw all their money to HSR (basically still giving genshin money)? because his youtube vids arent getting much traction lately
@111111hakar
@111111hakar 2 ай бұрын
The real crime here is just how badly aligned those wall scrolls are.
@MrEnKaye
@MrEnKaye 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@kaede_yuki
@kaede_yuki Ай бұрын
Yeah, that was bothering me the whole video.
@jesushimself7887
@jesushimself7887 2 ай бұрын
its good that every content creator is addressing the CES. But this is by far one of the best explanations and addressing's of this drama
@MayMacHS
@MayMacHS 2 ай бұрын
*name pending
@eddiephoenix9698
@eddiephoenix9698 2 ай бұрын
as always, a big W for IWTL! Glad i found your channel and please keep up the good work!
@Robinc0re
@Robinc0re 2 ай бұрын
Another reason why win to lose is best youtuber
@justjustin676
@justjustin676 2 ай бұрын
ofc tectone is at the crime scene
@abyssia6440
@abyssia6440 2 ай бұрын
Its the mintpicker slime community
@geoarchon_morax
@geoarchon_morax 2 ай бұрын
for real. dude is always about drama.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 2 ай бұрын
😐
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 2 ай бұрын
test server just got approved mf HOW did tectone make a drama out of it so quickly 💀
@demonlewds
@demonlewds 2 ай бұрын
Cause he’s a drama baby that leeches off drama for attention since he knows it’s the only way he stays relevant dude literally just reacts to content and doesn’t make his own now 💀
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 2 ай бұрын
@@demonlewds i can barely consider his channel afloat he gets only like 100k views per vid 😭 hoping his channel dissapears one day this mf is the reason why HSR community is so toxic lately
@didyourmomlastnight
@didyourmomlastnight 2 ай бұрын
He's always the quickest to jump and latch onto any drama because it's what keeps him relevant. He denies it at any chance possible but why wouldn't he?
@KuroTheDesigner
@KuroTheDesigner 2 ай бұрын
To be fair he did raise a valid concern, this situation COULD have been one where Hoyo was, in fact, strictly curating creator videos. My issue with tectone is that rather than bringing up a valid concern in a normal discussion based engagement, he would rather yell and be loud cuz views and its his brand. I watch him cuz he DOES tend to call out the BS, but i watch other mfs for more rational takes on the same problem. So tldr yeh you right
@intrepid9776
@intrepid9776 2 ай бұрын
bro it's KEKtone wdye
@emojifr...
@emojifr... 2 ай бұрын
Why is it always tectone with the drama
@didyourmomlastnight
@didyourmomlastnight 2 ай бұрын
Because he doesn't know how to make interesting content outside of reacting and drama. He made one interesting trivia series with Genshin but all of his friends in the community have left him behind so he can't do that anymore.
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 2 ай бұрын
because he monetizes out of this his entire career has been drama, he barely even plays the games (although he whaled a lot in genshin)
@aceknight6622
@aceknight6622 2 ай бұрын
because he's almost always one of the first to call shit out. anytime he's the start is because he see's something wrong and calls it out which causes it to spiral
@TheSickening1
@TheSickening1 2 ай бұрын
Cause he's a loud spoiled manchild who doesn't want to create actual content, just wants to b*tch about everything
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
@josebaltoomarnilson4762 2 ай бұрын
@@aceknight6622he threw a tantrum because he got excluded from something he did not belong in, lmao, he did not call out anything
@Headless...
@Headless... 2 ай бұрын
As usual Tectone made this drama seem way bigger that it actually is
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ 2 ай бұрын
nah its just baldman is into tantrum and using the freedom of speech and banning you if you try to correct his mistake
@TypowyKubini
@TypowyKubini 2 ай бұрын
​@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_would you look at that. Tectone abusing the freedom of speech but he is not ok, when someone uses it against him.
@aceknight6622
@aceknight6622 2 ай бұрын
because if all his complaints were right then it would be as big as he is making it seem. he just misunderstood everything
@imo098765
@imo098765 2 ай бұрын
Nah its kinda big deal, using iwtl own example with Mona Lets assume she is new character that someone else had access to Mona for longer. would IWTL have made such a video to reach a wider audience when somebody else already made the content? It makes everybody else videos nearly irrelevant when you already have the answers week+ before they even start testing the character Edit: or put it this way, IWTL is relevant because it was a near equal starting point to make Genshin contenr
@RivaledDarkness1
@RivaledDarkness1 2 ай бұрын
@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ What do you mean correct his mistake? He mostly just states his opinions, and sometimes gives information about how he thinks things should be fixed.
@QwertyUiop-ct9dr
@QwertyUiop-ct9dr 2 ай бұрын
seeing him speak is so surreal to me like the voice and the face looks disconnected 😭😭 im too used to hearing his asmr voice as a narration i cant unhear it this is mindbreaking is it just me help
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 2 ай бұрын
He has shown his face several times tho, usually when he livestreams
@midianjoyaryantawira5480
@midianjoyaryantawira5480 2 ай бұрын
yeah you and 9 other people are the only ones that think that way 😊
@RazyKlaf
@RazyKlaf 2 ай бұрын
Yeah when I saw him first i was like your voice is so deep and i thought you'll be so big don't get me wrong I am not commenting about his appearance it's just i didn't expect it
@heliphino
@heliphino 2 ай бұрын
You are such a legend for how you carry and represent yourself, thank you for being such a professional voice in this game's community!
@oncedemayo
@oncedemayo 2 ай бұрын
you always handle things very gracefully and it’s refreshing to see, even though you must be busy with work and videos and family you still addressed this issue and i think its a great show of how much you care about both your community and other fellow content creators. i hope you can rest up!
@dovedub
@dovedub 2 ай бұрын
youre always so articulate and i learned a lot from this! i hope that a ptr could happen, testing out characters is always a good time. used to do it in overwatch1
@KQ4rt
@KQ4rt 2 ай бұрын
It's always Tectone who makes it so much bigger than it should be
@keqqing3634
@keqqing3634 2 ай бұрын
I think that actually turned out good that he spoke about it bcs now we have video like this that explains everything
@Hanabis924
@Hanabis924 2 ай бұрын
His heart is in the right place. His delivery was shit
@purplerainPR
@purplerainPR 2 ай бұрын
thats why hes the goat
@adrianpaulochoa9825
@adrianpaulochoa9825 2 ай бұрын
@@Hanabis924 He is actually concerned about this killing off smaller CCs that need to wait until the actual release to do heir content, but the way he said it felt like a direct insult to everyone that signed up
@magdieldexter
@magdieldexter 2 ай бұрын
It’s always people like you that blow this even more out of proportion. The problem despite his ass not being able to articulate what he wanted to say properly cause he gets too angry, was a good concern surrounding Smaller cc guide makers etc. Yet people again, dismiss the problem completely and jump to talk about shit about him, can we not have a conversation of the problem at hand? GachaSmack made a good video about it too and he also took initiative and reacted to the braxophone guide to confirm if you would get fucked for even reacting to videos in a transformative manner.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 2 ай бұрын
I saw one local CC that's not NA based also in the server, they showed that Guinaifen's debuff stacking doesn't increase Acheron's charge (sadge) but Kafka popping BS's arcana actually, does. The CC said that they did it without their LC. Also BS arcana automatically popping on enemies that got summoned means BS is without a doubt the best nihility support for Acheron in mob heavy content or bosses that likes to spawn mobs.
@Kangstor
@Kangstor 2 ай бұрын
Kafka and Black Swan probably work because it is from two different characters. I don't know how Gunaifen works so can't comment on that.
@kyo-wm3wb
@kyo-wm3wb 2 ай бұрын
@@KangstorIm pretty sure its because of the "during an action" part - Guinafen's firekiss triggers when the enemy takes burn dmg, which (without Kafka) only happens during the *enemy*'s turn Whereas with Kafka triggering Arcana, BS applied her debuff on the enemy during Kafka's turn - although not her own turn, apparently as long as any ally is taking action when a debuff is applied, Acheron gets a stack Very helpful to know
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 2 ай бұрын
You mean iminflame's vid?
@whatislife6101
@whatislife6101 2 ай бұрын
@@kyo-wm3wb Debuffs on enemy turns does pop Acheron's passive like Universal market and the debuffs you get from killing certain enemies, so firekiss not proccing acheron passive is most probably a bug.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 2 ай бұрын
@@haruyanto8085 no it's non English Content Creator
@reezwave
@reezwave 2 ай бұрын
All good man, it's just a misunderstanding for the most part. And it's true that smaller channels might be affected the most, but we can say the same thing with tech reviewers and how big channels got to review them early. I guess the solution is to make the creator server not that strict to enter (but not that easy either), so everyone can try it out but still putting an effort to it.
@totallyahololivesimp
@totallyahololivesimp 2 ай бұрын
I think limiting it to a few with background checks is a good idea. I don't want dicks working in my company if I were a hoyo staff
@babytacprimo
@babytacprimo 2 ай бұрын
This is not misunderstanding on tectone part, because he's been reacting video because that way he can slander, if he create a video he can't slander, so by reacting he can say all he want.. now that it's taken away from him, he's been crying
@reezwave
@reezwave 2 ай бұрын
@@babytacprimo true lmao. I meant it's misunderstanding for us the players cus this is just childish "drama" when I think about it more and more
@ArthurMorgan.1863
@ArthurMorgan.1863 2 ай бұрын
@@babytacprimo That tectone guy should be called out. Can't stand how dmb he is and his meat riding fans who always gassed him up LMAO. Making drama for the sake of content LOL.
@Smolstatic
@Smolstatic 2 ай бұрын
IWinToLose Blessing us with his knowledge :D
@Cicilovescorgi
@Cicilovescorgi 2 ай бұрын
I for one am grateful that you are one of the chosen ones to the creator server. I’ve been watching your guides for years and can fully trust that you’d give honest and constructive opinions on a new character. Try not to get too involved with “drama”iwtl. Not like you, some toxic CCs feed on dramas because that’s the only kind of “content”they can create. At end of the day, it’s a great opportunity for you guys and players like myself!
@OmegaNitro
@OmegaNitro 2 ай бұрын
I've always appreciated how thorough and well reasoned your research and opinions are for both Genshin and HSR content. It really helps me get a better idea of what I want to do with the characters I pull seeing what you've made possible with them and how you put your strategies together. Your comedy is hit or miss, but the gag of you having unfunny jokes can be pretty funny in itself, so I even appreciate that. In short, you are privileged to have early access, but you also are very deserving of it IMO.
@aeon-nanook
@aeon-nanook 2 ай бұрын
Great video as always.. Great way to put everything that community wanted to know.. I hope your mental health doesn't get affected by the drama.. Peace , love and happiness..
@_elynas
@_elynas 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely worthless drama perpetuated by the dumbest CC’s in this space. Keep taking those W’s
@Blackbeard925
@Blackbeard925 2 ай бұрын
agreed!
@OrangeRock
@OrangeRock 2 ай бұрын
Another week Another drama that's coming out of thin air
@aroix2667
@aroix2667 2 ай бұрын
@OrangeRock thin air??? what thin air this is pretty big deal for content creators saying its coming from thin air is ridiculous if you will call something this big coming from thin air then what isnt thin air according to you
@demonlewds
@demonlewds 2 ай бұрын
@@aroix2667dude shit literally just came out and you out here freaking out like it’s not gonna to make changes down the road you are literally blowing this out proportion like tectone and mtashed
@nexxonolo6085
@nexxonolo6085 2 ай бұрын
tectone stuff creates drama out of thin air
@hido...
@hido... 2 ай бұрын
​@demonlewds it's normal to worried like Mtashed if this is your main source of income. It's something that could possibly affect his livelihood. I know it probably won't even affect him as much as he would think, but still he has a wife, kid, and bills to pay.
@paulyvii
@paulyvii 2 ай бұрын
@@hido... if creating drama and pushing out half-baked and low-quality content is what gets you money to pay your bills then that's pretty pathetic. he should get an office job or something and quit the internet
@kittrialeviana3574
@kittrialeviana3574 2 ай бұрын
You always have been and always will be my favorite Hoyo content creator because you’re so well-spoken and mature and completely above the drama of these polarizing Hoyo communities. You deliver amazing content from any server, and even as I fall in and out of these games, I still watch your guides because you’re so funny and create such positive vibes on your channel. Love you IWTL!!
@MegaDuke4life
@MegaDuke4life 2 ай бұрын
What should have been a hyped preparation for Acheron turned into all this extra drama
@roa_ilis
@roa_ilis 2 ай бұрын
respect on how you respond it!
@Blackbeard925
@Blackbeard925 2 ай бұрын
here’s the difference: IWTL is a business professional, while others are just crying babies. In all seriousness, people are going to watch whoever they want regardless of if another person made a similar video because they enjoy the CREATOR and their style, not necessarily the content.
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 2 ай бұрын
Correct, unlike most CCs, IWTL has a real job so his take is usually more mature, also Hoyoverse has no obligation to be fair to small CCs
@user-qd3qt9jx7d
@user-qd3qt9jx7d 2 ай бұрын
That's true! As for guide, I usually watch more than 3 to find one that suitable with my account
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 2 ай бұрын
😐
@OtavioRubin
@OtavioRubin 2 ай бұрын
IWTLG I usually never says something in your videos, but I do watch all of them. I just love your content, your way of thinking, of creating the videos, your tone.... everything. Thank you for being this incredible content creator, keep strong with your smile, passion and way os living
@michaelbond220
@michaelbond220 2 ай бұрын
I think whats good about the early videos is usually when a patch drops a lot of stuff just gets lost in the noise, so to have some of that info even a week ahead of time in a more official live service environment when the games are usually in their slow weeks really helps
@Ray-xx8yt
@Ray-xx8yt 2 ай бұрын
People are blowing this way out of proportion
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 2 ай бұрын
next you'll say that the community is mostly teenagers with nothing better to do
@user-rw4em2jn3t
@user-rw4em2jn3t 2 ай бұрын
alot of people disagree with you maybe try seeing the other side because alot of us do
@poring8886
@poring8886 2 ай бұрын
When you say "People" you mean the bald jewish streamers and his followers?
@guillermocoronado6850
@guillermocoronado6850 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's such a pendejada that I cannot understand why is it so hard for people to comprehend Hoyoverse is in no obligation of providing everyone access to that, it's like babies crying cause they couldn't try the toy first
@skyzell5029
@skyzell5029 2 ай бұрын
@@user-rw4em2jn3tAs if you care about it, this problem only concert CC
@mitzi3262
@mitzi3262 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was more talk about the inability to react to these videos, that would help everyone in the scenario really.
@ieatwalnut9088
@ieatwalnut9088 2 ай бұрын
I personally think that dmca for react is good and for solution just let in more cc's on the server . The dmca is really only affecting eggman here since he react to guides but I really hope they let mtashed in even though he's blacklisted.
@HBonk
@HBonk 2 ай бұрын
The videos are supposed to be reviewed by Hoyo. If you allow unreviewed reactions it defeats the purpose of allowing only a few creators into the system. And if you are going to review every reaction video out there anyway, you might as well give everyone access to it.
@Kasraken
@Kasraken 2 ай бұрын
I always enjoy watching your content, (I have your site bookmarked and check it every day). Thank you for explaining your point of view on this issue.
@-L1K-
@-L1K- 2 ай бұрын
Happy for you for being one of the first to try it out. Hope this "drama" dies out faster than that last one which was just plain embarrassing.
@dhyrin
@dhyrin 2 ай бұрын
IWTL is such a chad
@carrotsyoimiyamain
@carrotsyoimiyamain 2 ай бұрын
How to explain in one sentence Tectone being jealous💀
@undineNe0
@undineNe0 2 ай бұрын
'why am not in it.!! welp time to make new drama in the community.'
@sashakim-nw4by
@sashakim-nw4by 2 ай бұрын
​@@undineNe0his narcissistic personality disorder pissses me off so bad, whenever I heard his voice it becomes physical the pain
@artronino_4640
@artronino_4640 2 ай бұрын
Imagine blaming Tectone for everything that might go a bit bad 💀. As Iwtl said, it has some pretty clear cons. If people dont point it out, it's not gonna get resolved. Tectone pointed it out, maybe a bit agressively, but he still did. He didnt criticize the idea, but the way they handled it. He never said he wanted to partake in it. Just to be able to comment on it
@sashakim-nw4by
@sashakim-nw4by 2 ай бұрын
@@artronino_4640 first of all tectone's channel is based on pure drama because he can't make his own anymore. He has been the peck to drama. Second he always cause it because that's the only way his channel can keep alive. Third always taking everything out of context and it's very ironic because he said he didn't need them to sponsor him or he didn't give a fk how he like to say now he acts like a baby faced narcissistic bald ah cry baby because of it. So to your response he is the main reason most and 98% of the time that drama starts
@artronino_4640
@artronino_4640 2 ай бұрын
@@sashakim-nw4by if he was actually such a poison, why would he even be alive as a CC. Anyhow, half of the stuff u just said just means he's got personality and gives his opinion on whatever he's talking about. If people disagree, there is gonna be discussion. And yes, he does blow stuff out of proportion, but isnt the content creation industry all about being influential? As long as he's entertaining, he's gonna be fine. He might overreact, but he's not spreading misinfo
@beeso0ovideos
@beeso0ovideos 2 ай бұрын
Love you! Started watching since the Mona Mains videos 💙
@Beanz09
@Beanz09 2 ай бұрын
Loved to hear your take on this. Thought you touched on all the points well!
@mihaly4548
@mihaly4548 2 ай бұрын
JP and SEA CC are very positive about this, western cc on the other side... well they like to make anything drama
@wodime7305
@wodime7305 2 ай бұрын
Well, thats a so-called freedom in the western community so they can create pointless drama as they want😂
@SinisterStrange2029
@SinisterStrange2029 2 ай бұрын
@@wodime7305The drama itself comes from one screenshot that spreading misinformation about creator exp server and bigger CC like tectone made his own narrative to demonize Hoyoverse 💀
@andrewdadyan8006
@andrewdadyan8006 2 ай бұрын
Why is the Raiden Shogun wall scroll higher on the wall than the rest of the scrolls? Please fix. Ty.
@azurin63
@azurin63 2 ай бұрын
Your Eula combo videos is the reason why I love this channel
@theysisossenthime
@theysisossenthime 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing the factual information that not everyone had knowledge of. Transparency is critical in any healthy society, even digital communities. I, too, hope Hoyo expands this program so small creators have access as well. We will be much more likely to learn about interesting approaches to playing a new character that can help inform how we want to save/spend.
@bandilexulu2296
@bandilexulu2296 2 ай бұрын
Tectone = drama queen
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ 2 ай бұрын
hey stop that baldman gonna use his freedom of speech to ban you lol
@xenoemblem7
@xenoemblem7 2 ай бұрын
He can't even make a convincing drama, he's more of a court jester if anything. But instead of entertaining royalty, he makes a fool out of himself
@chito2701
@chito2701 2 ай бұрын
wait until TECTONE migrates to WUTHERING WAVES and start the cycle drama all over again.
@I.disagree
@I.disagree 2 ай бұрын
​@@xenoemblem7It's entertaining regardless, I would just rather him talk about drama that doesn't constantly involve random people I like watching
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 2 ай бұрын
Worse thing about him, is when there are actual concerns the community is also blind to it cause they want to avoid drama
@benjaminvinueza6175
@benjaminvinueza6175 2 ай бұрын
You and sevy are my favorites content creators❤
@peteraddspeakervang2340
@peteraddspeakervang2340 2 ай бұрын
IWTL: Don’t stress, you are doing an amazing job and I for one, as a fairly new F2P player (lvl56, W8) have benefited immensely from the variety of content you provide. I am sure that people who don’t like the drama but is here to gain knowledge will appreciate your content even more in the future now that you are on the Name Pending approved creator’s list. One point of criticism I have about your content is that the background music is a bit too loud and makes it difficult to hear your voice. Apart from that .. rock on and don’t worry about the drama!
@gachainteract
@gachainteract 2 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you do, man. So proud and excited for you with an opportunity like what you have!
@ssarellas
@ssarellas 2 ай бұрын
And of course tectone was the one who started this drama too, imagine my shock
@ViperXzero50
@ViperXzero50 2 ай бұрын
To be more precise gacha smack mentioned it 1st but ok
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ 2 ай бұрын
@@ViperXzero50 gacha jumping to conclusion never ask the side of the cc who got the early access..
@ssarellas
@ssarellas 2 ай бұрын
@@ViperXzero50 we all know this nothingburger blew up because of tectone making videos yelling and screaming at Hoyo
@effrumtheretardo
@effrumtheretardo 2 ай бұрын
That asshole showed up in my recommended videos right as I was watching this one. Instant "Do Not Recommend Channel".
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 2 ай бұрын
🤦
@ajyearby2425
@ajyearby2425 2 ай бұрын
That boy techtone was essentially upset because he wasn’t invited to the server.
@sir_squeeb
@sir_squeeb 2 ай бұрын
There’s literally no “drama” to speak of. Just tectone throwing a shit fit as usual.
@augustusplays7896
@augustusplays7896 2 ай бұрын
hes so cringe
@tedvwily
@tedvwily 2 ай бұрын
fr. it's just his content as usual
@-poon-382
@-poon-382 2 ай бұрын
as a tectone meat rider I agree, he takes the L on this one, but tbf I think he has a misconception that's all and its a him problem lol.
@RejectedInch
@RejectedInch 2 ай бұрын
@@-poon-382 he takes the L on EVERYTHING. Lies, allegations, defamations, psychotic fits... it takes only a bunch of not very smart people to support that guy.
@MarkSpirals
@MarkSpirals 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your mature approach to this situation. I agree, this is a big positive for the consumer. I understand Content Creators want their bag, but their focus should be towards the consumers/player base and what’s best for them. Then CCs can capitalize on the long term benefits. And as long as everyone involved can be just a level headed as you are then the DMCA issue can be addressed.
@ZakuZuko
@ZakuZuko 2 ай бұрын
you can be constructive without been rude about it.
@JojoDigitalArtist
@JojoDigitalArtist 2 ай бұрын
Yep the internet in general has lost the meaning of what constructive critism is and have just turned hating and yelling at something into critism which it blatantly isn't.
@sashakim-nw4by
@sashakim-nw4by 2 ай бұрын
Literally what tectone lacks about
@fuyutsukirai
@fuyutsukirai 2 ай бұрын
I really love your voice man. So relaxing.
@fadedmogli5179
@fadedmogli5179 2 ай бұрын
You pretty much said exactly my perspective on this having listened to a bunch of sides of this right now. I think people just don't know how a lot of this works from your perspective as a content creator in these servers. And I think a lot of people don't understand yet that this is, as you said, a pilot or test run of this. Assuming this produces the results they want, I can't see any reason they wouldn't open up to more content creators and lift the dmca. People just need to give it time
@nxcyp3462
@nxcyp3462 2 ай бұрын
honestly, after hearing about CES you are the first and only channel i can only think of worthy 😊
@dopeydoughnut6334
@dopeydoughnut6334 2 ай бұрын
I’m so happy Mr baldo left the Honkai Impact community! Hsr people good luck to you all!
@kokorowatari2993
@kokorowatari2993 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know drama was happening, but I'm glad that you've addressed it in an even handed and constructive manner. Your example of constructive v.s. nonconstructive (but funny) feedback is an example of why I still tune in to your videos even though I'm playing for waifu instead of meta anyway. Keep up the good work!
@ApexierGS
@ApexierGS 2 ай бұрын
Nice video, idk about drama, but thanks for explaining it. Looks forward to more IWTL video about genshin and hsr and WuWa, and ZZZ, glad I can support with a view.
@Zharque
@Zharque 2 ай бұрын
I think this video sums up everything that needs to be said about this whole ordeal.
@safe4547
@safe4547 2 ай бұрын
Honestly dude, you and Sevy are the only creators I feel genuine.
@Fangenstein
@Fangenstein 2 ай бұрын
Throw Dish in there and I agree
@juryrigg5568
@juryrigg5568 2 ай бұрын
Reactors are just mad because now they have to create actually content instead of just whining and talk about a video that other cc made (cof cof Tectone cof cof)
@dachshundmafia
@dachshundmafia 2 ай бұрын
It would probably be valuable to compare stats/multipliers from the content server to the release server. Just to make sure no big changes happen from hype time to release time. This will give people who don't keep up with the numbers from early leaks to after release more info to decide if they still want the characters. Unless hoyo is saying that all the stats are set as final in this new server access.
@trashbuilds8351
@trashbuilds8351 2 ай бұрын
You make an excellent point that bigger content creators already have unique access to test servers, not as an excuse to keep this newer server so limited, but just the reality that it's not a new thing for top creators to have access to something smaller ones dont. I overlooked that point initially.
@reivell3699
@reivell3699 2 ай бұрын
Ban the American CCs = problem solved.
@MayMacHS
@MayMacHS 2 ай бұрын
I dont think that racism is a good solution
@reivell3699
@reivell3699 2 ай бұрын
@@MayMacHS American is not a race, if you're talking about the Americans (the original owner of the land of America) then no, im talking about the EuropeanAmericans that established USA in the land that they stole.
@RejectedInch
@RejectedInch 2 ай бұрын
No. Ban ONE American Cc and the problem is solved.
@subasistaria930
@subasistaria930 2 ай бұрын
You Guys have earned Your position ( there might be a little bit of luck factor but , still You have earned Your position ) Fair points throughout the video . Did't cover the unnecessary bits
@davidpereira4646
@davidpereira4646 2 ай бұрын
Just to say i so appreciate your posture about all this.. for every video actually..very professional, adult wise and put together speech.. congratulations 🎉
@skywardeity444
@skywardeity444 2 ай бұрын
I am in such a peaceful place rn that I didn't even know that there was any drama. Thank you for adressing this, Iwin, I hope you can rest from your sickness!!
@jingyanhuang554
@jingyanhuang554 2 ай бұрын
CN players might throw a protest if Hoyo gives access to people like Mtash and Tectone. So I doubt those two would ever be included even when this program is expanded. You fu*k around, you found out. I call it karma.
@Andre-0207
@Andre-0207 2 ай бұрын
Good. They both do not deserve the good treatment that other cc might get
@srimahimaa1918
@srimahimaa1918 2 ай бұрын
May I know what Mtash did? I don't know whether he did anything bad before. I watch his videos & its good. I don't like that bald guy though
@Servalsno1fan
@Servalsno1fan 2 ай бұрын
​@@srimahimaa1918 Long story short, he's mad that he's not in the server because it feels unfair to him to make guides when he is a week late compared to other guide maker
@ashomkar837
@ashomkar837 2 ай бұрын
Apex legends also give some CCs early access, so what the problem in honkai star rail if Iwintolose and braxy gets??? I would actually feel happy that we can see the gameplay early and decide whether to pull for a character or not
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 ай бұрын
i think direct, visual comparisons about E0s0 and E0s1 is a must, one thing I want to know is the actual gap between having or not a bis lightcone. if you can do that for acheron, aventurine and other units in the future I bet it will be a valuable content for consumers.
@nilkilnilkil
@nilkilnilkil 2 ай бұрын
I have enough idea bro but I like your channel ... And I am definitely discerning with which channels I like ...
@mitsuakidante8186
@mitsuakidante8186 2 ай бұрын
7:19 that sounds like something that comes out from tectone when he do reaction videos. NGL i watch too much of his reaction videos
@babytacprimo
@babytacprimo 2 ай бұрын
That's why he's only reacting, so he can say those things without issue. Now that they prevent it, he went nuke because he'll be irrelevant now
@MTashed
@MTashed 2 ай бұрын
I might make a vid about some of this. Especially because people like you SHOULD NOT be getting hate. It is absolutely stupid. You SHOULD be making videos on the new characters, and I'd be mad if people like you and brax didn't take the opportunity
@belldandy_PZ
@belldandy_PZ 2 ай бұрын
Yet a few content creators made knee-jerk reactions and full on 'drama' videos just as Brax posted his video. You do not think that takes away his views and can start a hate mob from your content? Top of that, making them feel bad if they post from the beta or fear the backlash from the LARGE HSR streamers? This whole thing is embarrassing. Do better.
@mihaly1413
@mihaly1413 2 ай бұрын
when hsr do better anniv, another drama happen in western side, its sucks@@belldandy_PZ
@LambdaDriven
@LambdaDriven 2 ай бұрын
I think that would be helpful in putting a finer point on what the problems are. Plus I think people want to hear what you think after having time to process things.
@rozee8516
@rozee8516 2 ай бұрын
Say that to the ccs making it bigger than it is
@romsgolden7614
@romsgolden7614 2 ай бұрын
cn jp and kr server never had this problem, its always you and tectone make the normal company move looks like nuclear drama, pls stop pls
@trishulpatel8244
@trishulpatel8244 2 ай бұрын
Never thought I would see the day were you addressed drama xD going of your point on mtashed, hope this stuff doesn't demotivate you either, never nice to have fingers pointed at oneself for honestly no real reason in my eyes. You're good vibes coming from a good place, it always feels like i'm watching a friend, so keep doing you 👍
@AdS-kv2xe
@AdS-kv2xe 2 ай бұрын
Don't let it get you down my friend. You are great, skilled, balanced, optimistic, entertaining, and kind. Thanks for being the eye in the storm!
@lzyjam
@lzyjam 2 ай бұрын
It is just those guys being jealous. Those two are always complaining about everything since Sumeru patch. If I run a business I would not like to cooperate with someone who keep complaining and act like he cares about the community. CC cover the game for money. As long as the game is good, there will always be someone willing to cover the game because of huge amount of the audience. And those losers doing this gives the audience a feeling like the one got invited into CC server betray the audience or sucking the company's ball which makes me feel disgusted. They act like they are voice for others, but in reality they just being jealous. And Hoyo can always invite more CC into the server in later patches. But there will always be some CC left behind uninvited. Even a CC with 10 viewer is a CC. How can you make it fair? And it is not Hoyo's business to make everyone make money.
@kyo-wm3wb
@kyo-wm3wb 2 ай бұрын
I think that's a bit dismissive of real potential issues of the server - I completely get your point and there's definitely some truth there, but I do believe that some people saw the competition in their career paths and were genuinely afraid of how this server could go and what Hoyo's intentions were Although I'm not sure exactly who you're talking about so this may not apply, but I think its healthy to try to understand more perspectives cause at the end of the day they're all still people with their own beliefs and thinkings Even though the situation got pretty blown out of proportion in this case... 😭
@kyo-wm3wb
@kyo-wm3wb 2 ай бұрын
I love your last point! Thats something I was wondering about as well - at some point there's going to be ccs that get excluded, because otherwise you'd have to invite every possible cc on the platform and at that point you might as well just make it an open testing server for the public I wonder how they'll go about it in the future!
@tatarsauce6314
@tatarsauce6314 2 ай бұрын
@@kyo-wm3wbsounds more like they’re dismissing smaller creators. Cause let’s call a spade a spade, this is an unfair advantage
@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd
@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@tatarsauce6314hey there is an advantage of having a bigger platform…like yeah let’s a spade a spade. Hoyoverse wants basically advertised their characters gameplay early by giving larger cc access to a private server. Like how entitled he is for demanding Hoyoverse gave access to unknown cc and say that smaller cc don’t need to do legwork to get in…like that not how business work at all. Hell, the dude doesn’t even need to do the legwork, he is part of OTK and Mythic so I’m pretty all the offer was given to him on a silver platter.
@aoisan6529
@aoisan6529 2 ай бұрын
are you afraid that a 10 CC viewer is going to get less views just because the other CC's got a upperhand at making guides? and even those guides they make are unconfirmed and still subject to change? bro reality doesn't work like that. Those Small CC's fanbase will increase or decrease of their own work and not making a video 1 week early or so about the said character. For Ex let's say there is a small CC who makes guides on acheron He most probably would've gotten those kit info from leaks and would spread information that is untrue/true depending on the reliability of the source. Most of the time it's unconfirmed and ppl will believe that in Face Value. (This in turn sways a lot of public opinion about the character if its good or not before the character is even released.) Now those small time CC will get a time disadvantage when the characters are released right? well not actually. Tell me this, whenever you are building a character in HSR do you usually remember what relics are to be given when the character is released? unless and until you pre-farmed, most ppl will actually just see the video and forget about the relics, later when they go to the game they again search up for the good relics and add it suitably. The small time CC will again be benefitted from this process are ppl are going to see the same content twice because they need it! as most of them are going to even forget what relic they are going to use on the 5* character
@KakavashaForever
@KakavashaForever 2 ай бұрын
The drama is stupid and everyone perpetuating it should be ashamed. Looking at you Tectone and Mtashed.
@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057
@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 2 ай бұрын
What did MTashed do? The man literally had a meltdown, because he thinks this will kill his channel. Is that a crime?
@KakavashaForever
@KakavashaForever 2 ай бұрын
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057Melodramatic doomer BS as always. And yes its a crime, the FBI are on their way right now... 🤡
@consciousnesshidden
@consciousnesshidden 2 ай бұрын
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057that's being too soft as a content creator imo. How is it reasonable to expect a company that you've insulted over and over again to give you early access? It's also weird to not diversify the content you put out. If he feels the content he makes is worth watching, he will pump it out regardless. People watch him for him, not because of the specific game he's covering.
@wreckingvi2265
@wreckingvi2265 2 ай бұрын
@@keepingtheknightslinetrue2057 he killed his own channel long time ago, nice try.
@jerson.romantico.1521
@jerson.romantico.1521 2 ай бұрын
Whose fault is it that I insulted him? about the company that doesn't care about the public that only gives you 3 wishes on the anniversary and doesn't even put content in its game or about the youtuber that only talks honestly about how things are? Here the fault will always be the company's because it generates hatred towards them for not respecting their audience, because there are bootlickers who even if they treat them badly they continue to spend is another point. 😷
@MN-xh7yu
@MN-xh7yu 2 ай бұрын
I was using this video as background sound while working out and I had no idea what the issue was before clicking. I didn't realize this was Honkai video until the 7min mark, I was just vibing and was like hmmm I thought we've had a test server forever
@Ayase-Sakii
@Ayase-Sakii 2 ай бұрын
My Go-To video guide keep up the quality work !! 🎉🎉🎉
@xNalaur
@xNalaur 2 ай бұрын
Can you address the VAR drama with Man City?
@Kurisu139
@Kurisu139 2 ай бұрын
That is why this guy is a goated youtuber. And I always laugh when whiteknights cant handle his approach such as those WuWa peeps that watch his livestream. He is the only one that I watch on character guides.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 2 ай бұрын
What his approach in WuWa
@Kurisu139
@Kurisu139 2 ай бұрын
@@shutup1037 if you watch his early stream of Wuwa and the first time he reads the cons of every chars. He concludes that its a pay to win for the amount of damage multiplier a single 5s cons give. Then the chat goes wild and it was hilarious.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 2 ай бұрын
@@Kurisu139 but if it follow HSR and genshin copy thing with eidolon or constellation, it's obv p2w. You cant deny that. The usual dumb gacha players
@Kurisu139
@Kurisu139 2 ай бұрын
@@shutup1037 usually the first two constellations are just a way to somewhat fix the character in both HSR and GI. (Such as hutao, wriothesley, furina, neuvi and then ayaka cons 1 exist💀) although HSR tends to want you to pull for their signature lightcone cuz honestly they are incomplete without it. (Every signature lightcone feels like a character in their own) Wuwa however have a c6 worth of buff in every constellations.
@razgrizadler
@razgrizadler 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for addressing this drama. Honestly as someone who also has been an old world reviewer (for other products) for a long time. This shouldn't have been an issue in the first place because it's how the world works. Always have been...
@morbgana7994
@morbgana7994 2 ай бұрын
I see your vision of possibly creating a honkai starail “mythbusters”. I think it would be very nice to know even the slight, minuscule detail about character or light cone interactions.
@TheKamadzU
@TheKamadzU 2 ай бұрын
?? i also not aware of this drama, but after i researched it and... weren't things alwas been like this for everything??? OFC NOT EVERYONE WOULD GET THE EARLY ACCESS LITERALLY IN EVERY BUSINESSES LMAO. CAR? SMARTPHONE? LITERALLY ANY TECH would only give early access to the people that company approved. Even for a restaurant business they would have taster party or something like that to limited choosen people. Even pre opening would only invite certain people and certain media, literally for everything in the world. Imagine if just random people can have early access just because they said they are "content creator". This is such a simple thing and people made it like it is the first time LMAO
@EnemySwine
@EnemySwine 2 ай бұрын
Good video, however, I don't really think this will slow down leaks at all. This is a hoyoverse issue. Characters are getting leaked as soon as the closed betas start a patch in advance.
@babytacprimo
@babytacprimo 2 ай бұрын
It will not stop leak, but it will expand the competition against leak.. for example: what happen if there are 4 leakers viewer if the competition went from 4 to 10? And versus a well known and approved KZbinr? And they can segregate from official vs illegal and monetized video
@simguinto2931
@simguinto2931 2 ай бұрын
More power to you sir!!!!
@jeanpierrelizarraga539
@jeanpierrelizarraga539 2 ай бұрын
Excelent video bro , is always nice to see you
@sadmansadat
@sadmansadat 2 ай бұрын
Sorry can you repeat that? i was counting how many times you said pending. I counted 18 times btw
@_Rithyl
@_Rithyl 2 ай бұрын
Where is the drama tho? I only saw tectone crying because wasn't invited and nothing more.
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ 2 ай бұрын
L- baldman W - brax lol dont forget its freedom of speech and he proceed banning chat who doesn't agree with him and correct him lol
@shinju_vera
@shinju_vera 2 ай бұрын
@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ fr i got banned for '' i think youre misunderstanding '' 💀
@doishida602
@doishida602 2 ай бұрын
It’s literally just people like mtashed and tectone blowing things way out of proportion, it’s pathetic
@hazard1one
@hazard1one 2 ай бұрын
​@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_like the guy is making narrative "hoyo controlling their CCs not to talk bad about their product" and "inflicting fear to CCs who break the rules".When the guy himself acts like that ,like "oh some of his chat has different opinion ? ban em" .
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_
@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ 2 ай бұрын
@@shinju_vera same when you correct a idiot he will ban you such freedom speech doesn't exist lol..
@RoseSphinx
@RoseSphinx 2 ай бұрын
I like the "CES" Name pending a lot! I am happy too see Acheron or other Units in the future early. I dindt even know there was Drama but I guess thats bc I only watch your Content.
@diazpramudita5165
@diazpramudita5165 2 ай бұрын
Hi IWTL. Have you ever made showcase of your streaming room & desk setup? or tour? Kinda curious, wanted to see them 😂.
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