Absolutely loving what Puma is doing with their performance running sector right now and can’t wait to see what the update for the Fast-R brings! It would be really interesting if they could get the weight of the Fast-R close to the DNE3
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@ryanwiesman9921 thanks for the comment!
@langlena12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the breathability reference. It is so important when living in a hotter climate. Many reviewers say the shoe is breathable, but when I run, it is not... maybe they live in a cold.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@langlena I am the same as you, very hot here where I run and breathability is a big factor for me! Thanks for the comment
@grogu816212 күн бұрын
Yes, Puma DNE3 wins the day for me too! A great shoe. If you get the Brooks Hyperion Elite 4 PB I'd love to see your comparison because that battle is much closer.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@grogu8162 thanks for the comment!
@andreapacileo14312 күн бұрын
Ottima recensione. Volevo aggiungere che con Puma devite elite 3 devi avere gamba anche dopo il 32esimo km, perché se non hai gamba (velocità) potrebbe non essere una buona scelta. Adidas adizero pro 4, è una scarpa meno agressiva ...una volta preso il ritmo correrci sopra è una goduria, e...in un ipotetico calo di ritmo a differenza delle Puma elite 3 ti lascia finire la gara senza troppi problemi. Detto questo 2 ottime scarpe da gara. Un saluto da Andrea da Milano.
@tombola404612 күн бұрын
I own both of these shoes and echo all you say! Love the DNE3 and would be my overall pick
@run-are11 күн бұрын
@@tombola4046 thanks for the comment 👍🏽
@i.p208813 күн бұрын
Love the Deviate Nitro Elite 3. Great energy return and midsole lasts forever.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@i.p2088 Such a great shoe 👍🏽
@realstradman12 күн бұрын
Excellent review! Thanks for sharing!. I just love my DNE3's but was wondering about these new AP4's too and what they were like. Doesn't sound though like the AP4's will be replacing my DNE3's imminently although will probably give the AP4's a try soon too. Cheers
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@realstradman thanks for the comment!
@joachimp143012 күн бұрын
Both shoes working great for me - prefer the Adizero Pro 4 slightly - mid or forefoot striking with it is a dream
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@joachimp1430 Such a smooth ride.
@Guillermohistoriador9996 күн бұрын
Thank u for this amazing job you did. I will add the deviate nitro elite 3 shows more ability to retain its quality in time, specially the sole is more durable.
@run-are6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@RichardHitchcock-ig4lj12 күн бұрын
Good comparison. Was considering both these shoes and will probably go for the Puma (if I can get a pair in my size - they seem to be in very short supply here in the U.K.) as the Pro 4 sounds too soft and lacking durability.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@RichardHitchcock-ig4lj thanks for the comment!
@videoforum404712 күн бұрын
Runrepeat measured Elite 3 in lab and its 10.6-mm drop. Too high for me personally, I don't really use the foam in my heel cause of my forefoot stride, higher drop just gets in the way :/
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@videoforum4047 thanks for the comment
@dynamike924812 күн бұрын
kudos for not caving to the AP4 hype. AP4 is an impressive shoe, but DNE3 is such a surprise from Puma, they are definitely underrepresented among the elites
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@dynamike9248 thanks for the comment! I will always report how I experience the shoe regardless of the hype.
@MiracleWarriors12 күн бұрын
Since Adidas shoes are so small, we need to go half size or even a full size up from what we use with other brands. In the end the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is lighter and with more comfort !
@tylerharbin247612 күн бұрын
Im in my usual size in AP4. I know I heard a lot to size up. I did not have to.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@MiracleWarriors I usually have to size down in Adidas but not this model. What sizing do you use?
@MiracleWarriors12 күн бұрын
@run-are i have used size 8.5 US with Adidas for long as I can remember. But since the launch of the Ultraboost Light in 2023 , all of their newer shoes started to become super small for me. Now I use size 9.5 with Adidas. For the other brands is still 8.5US like for New Balance, Puma , Mizuno , ON and Nike. But for Asics I feel better with the size 9 The 9.5 is way too large for me , would have to use TWO WINTER socks for the shoes to fit. But not with Adidas, lol .
@Curt-o8h12 күн бұрын
I disagree, 8.5 US in AP4 is perfect for me just like every other shoe I own. A whole size up would be ridiculous, but my big toe isn’t relatively very long. So many of us have different shaped feet, but some people seem so sure it’s only the shoe.
@palmyarmyswim13 күн бұрын
Would the puma be better value/do the job for tempo runs, than say a magic speed, endorphin speed or boston option?
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@palmyarmyswim I'd always pick a race shoe over a workout shoe
@philipppuchner111512 күн бұрын
@@run-arein case of the DN3 (so, the non-Elite version) it may be different, because it is also very good and fast and you can also race in them. I didn't feel the Elite 3 for myself but the foam seems softer from the videos than what i experianced from the DN3 out of the box. Anyway, i also have a DNE2 boxed up and they also feel stiff - the race version of the DN2 to which the DN3 is very similar - just a bit better :)
@giaphucnguyen114310 күн бұрын
Hi everyone do anyone know about puma fast r 2 midsole is it firm or soft ??I wondering that cause puma fast r 2 have the same midsole as puma dne3. How its softness compare to puma DNE 3??? .Thank you!
@edlorenz155213 күн бұрын
I just can’t get along with the Puma. I’ve tried two runs in it and I feel like I’m running on basketballs. Way too bouncy for me. I also own the AP4 and have one run it so far. But out of both of these shoes, I would pick the AP3.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@edlorenz1552 thanks for sharing your experience 👍🏽
@lukepaulson342813 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great comparison! With only about 15 miles on the Puma DNE3, I started to notice a very loud clicking/popping sound from both shoes, predominantly in the left. Anyone else have experience with that? I just find it hard to believe that a slow, lightweight runner like myself could damage the plate. Could it be some sort of separation of the materials?
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@lukepaulson3428 it could be the plate, I haven't experienced anything like that. Thanks for the comment!
@adr67313 күн бұрын
Regarding to the foam compliance, what's the most resemble to the Metaspeed Paris?
@jackatmensacosacoaching13 күн бұрын
IMHO the Puma
@_Don_P13 күн бұрын
I have both and the answer is neither. Puma is closer but the meta speed is very different from both of these shoes
@adr67313 күн бұрын
@ Thanks. I have the Sky Paris and the adios Pro 3 and despite the Adidas feels fast I cannot get the energy return that I do get from the Asics. I guess I'm not heavy enough (or an aggressive landing) to smash the Lightstrike Pro and get the benefit of it.
@_Don_P12 күн бұрын
@@adr673 I hear you. I’m also a very light runner. I will say, either one you go with, you will like very much. They will be very different from your current rotation. The puma feels forgiving and fast. It just works well and works with you. The adidas feels soft and propulsive. I personally love both but that adidas feels just a little more special.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@adr673 Puma
@MLHunt13 күн бұрын
I have to try the shoe on but from all the reviews I think adidas may have gone too soft for me with this latest Lightstrike Pro (2.0?). Great review as always.
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@MLHunt thanks for the comment!
@RoshanFernandez-md5cf12 күн бұрын
Great review, thanks 🙏🏾. I’ve got the AP4s as I run marathons mostly but entered a half and wondering if the Ntro Elite would be worth investing in for that race 🤔
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@RoshanFernandez-md5cf thanks for the comment! If you can afford another pair of race shoes go for it I say!
@RoshanFernandez-md5cf12 күн бұрын
@ thanks! Time to invest 🙌🏽
@giaphucnguyen114312 күн бұрын
Which one of these (AP 4 or DNE 3)more reponsive and more bouncy compliance .Which one of these is softer ,and the remain shoes are firm or soft ? Any of these are firm?
@run-are12 күн бұрын
@@giaphucnguyen1143 DNE3 is more responsive and bouncy. AP4 is softer
@giaphucnguyen114312 күн бұрын
@@run-are DNE 3 is soft or firm? Thanks
@run-are11 күн бұрын
@giaphucnguyen1143 pretty soft
@giaphucnguyen114311 күн бұрын
Thanks what about puma fast r 2 is it firm or soft ??I wondering that cause puma fast r 2 have the same midsole as puma dne3
@run-are11 күн бұрын
@giaphucnguyen1143 I haven't run in the fast r 2
@tapanakul12 күн бұрын
Same me, I chose Puma DV8 Elite 3 any ways, it's really fit and easy to ride, Heel - Mid - Forefoot Strike it can handle all. Even slow pace and fast pace they can rely on and stable control much better than Adidas Pro 4. Adidas Pro4 may more suitable for marathon, but I got many feedback people who use this for marathon, it make foot heart since 30km onward, may be because its foam too soft and force return from Energy Rod is accumulate heart to foot.