Do they Fit the same, so I'm a 9.5 uk size in the speed 4, will I be the same in the pro 4

Size up or size down?

Have the Puma Nitro deviate 3 ( not elite ) and the Nike Alpha fly ( not vapour fly ) - both are exactly the same ! Both go fast - equally tired after my 10k and exact same time in both .. surprising - thought Alpha fly would give me extra speed on race days - NOT SO - ..

Pro 3 was bottom-heavy for me and like you couldn't get to paces I wanted to compared to say Vaporfly.

I own both of these shoes and echo all you say! Love the DNE3 and would be my overall pick

Which one of these (AP 4 or DNE 3)more reponsive and more bouncy compliance .Which one of these is softer ,and the remain shoes are firm or soft ? Any of these are firm?

Thank you for the breathability reference. It is so important when living in a hotter climate. Many reviewers say the shoe is breathable, but when I run, it is not... maybe they live in a cold.

Same me, I chose Puma DV8 Elite 3 any ways, it's really fit and easy to ride, Heel - Mid - Forefoot Strike it can handle all. Even slow pace and fast pace they can rely on and stable control much better than Adidas Pro 4. Adidas Pro4 may more suitable for marathon, but I got many feedback people who use this for marathon, it make foot heart since 30km onward, may be because its foam too soft and force return from Energy Rod is accumulate heart to foot.

kudos for not caving to the AP4 hype. AP4 is an impressive shoe, but DNE3 is such a surprise from Puma, they are definitely underrepresented among the elites

Runrepeat measured Elite 3 in lab and its 10.6-mm drop. Too high for me personally, I don't really use the foam in my heel cause of my forefoot stride, higher drop just gets in the way :/

Yes, Puma DNE3 wins the day for me too! A great shoe. If you get the Brooks Hyperion Elite 4 PB I'd love to see your comparison because that battle is much closer.

DN 3 the Shark of running shoes

Team Puma❤❤❤❤❤

Since Adidas shoes are so small, we need to go half size or even a full size up from what we use with other brands. In the end the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is lighter and with more comfort !

Excellent review! Thanks for sharing!. I just love my DNE3's but was wondering about these new AP4's too and what they were like. Doesn't sound though like the AP4's will be replacing my DNE3's imminently although will probably give the AP4's a try soon too. Cheers

Both shoes working great for me - prefer the Adizero Pro 4 slightly - mid or forefoot striking with it is a dream

Ottima recensione. Volevo aggiungere che con Puma devite elite 3 devi avere gamba anche dopo il 32esimo km, perché se non hai gamba (velocità) potrebbe non essere una buona scelta. Adidas adizero pro 4, è una scarpa meno agressiva ...una volta preso il ritmo correrci sopra è una goduria, e...in un ipotetico calo di ritmo a differenza delle Puma elite 3 ti lascia finire la gara senza troppi problemi. Detto questo 2 ottime scarpe da gara. Un saluto da Andrea da Milano.

Good comparison. Was considering both these shoes and will probably go for the Puma (if I can get a pair in my size - they seem to be in very short supply here in the U.K.) as the Pro 4 sounds too soft and lacking durability.

I just can’t get along with the Puma. I’ve tried two runs in it and I feel like I’m running on basketballs. Way too bouncy for me. I also own the AP4 and have one run it so far. But out of both of these shoes, I would pick the AP3.

Thanks for the great comparison! With only about 15 miles on the Puma DNE3, I started to notice a very loud clicking/popping sound from both shoes, predominantly in the left. Anyone else have experience with that? I just find it hard to believe that a slow, lightweight runner like myself could damage the plate. Could it be some sort of separation of the materials?

Absolutely loving what Puma is doing with their performance running sector right now and can’t wait to see what the update for the Fast-R brings! It would be really interesting if they could get the weight of the Fast-R close to the DNE3

Puma feel better but very snug fit

I have to try the shoe on but from all the reviews I think adidas may have gone too soft for me with this latest Lightstrike Pro (2.0?). Great review as always.

Regarding to the foam compliance, what's the most resemble to the Metaspeed Paris?

Would the puma be better value/do the job for tempo runs, than say a magic speed, endorphin speed or boston option?

Got the Neo Vista on sale yesterday 🎉🎉🎉. Did a threshold 10k today. Amazing shoe. So comfortable and just set and forget. Legs feel so fresh I forgot about the run after a couple of hours ❤.

Love the Deviate Nitro Elite 3. Great energy return and midsole lasts forever.

Adios Pro 4 or Alphafly 3?

I think the AP4 is unlocked if you can consistently land forefoot and for me, pushing that 5k-HM pace. Feels a bit mushy at Marathon pace with how soft it is and you tend to land further back for slower paces. Still loving it tho

What's the difference or similarity between Vomero 17?

Interesting your thoughts on pro 4 to ASICS metaspeed sky paris.

I changed the laces in the pro 3 and that completely changed the upper for the better, I'm starting to get a lot of ks on my 3s they are a great long run shoe maybe Adidas have changed the rubber to take the longevity out of the shoe??? I'm a 3 fan ! Adidas need to relaunch the 3 as a super trainer under a different name maybe ??

These 2 shoes are like chalk and cheese. I get the feeling when Saucony release the Endorphin Elite 2, runners will be saying something similar given the huge difference in midsole foam density in both brands. Excellent review. Thanks.

They feel pretty similar to me at pace. The 4 definitely softer in the heel but with my typical mid-forefoot strike feels very similar at pace. We running easier than MP, the 4 does feel a bit mushy and slightly less stable. Even at pace I'd say the 3 feels faster, though I don't think it actually is, it's just more responsive. The upper is amazing on the 4, but you really have to crank it down to get a good lockdown and avoid toes jamming in the point toe box.

Well done on yet another top quality running shoe comparison. I really appreciate your video format and the way you detail your experience with all the shoes you try/test. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into producing your amazing running shoe content. I am fortunate enough to own both the Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 3 and Pro 4 and completely agree with your assessment regarding the foam compression differences. I am 6ft, ~82kg (so not the lightest runner but also not the heaviest) and I tend to land mid-to-forefoot and find that my particular running form gets along much better with the Pro 3 than the Pro 4. Whilst the early stage rocker in the Pro 4 does help a little to get me up on my toes quicker, it also means I have slightly less foam in the forefoot. That coupled with the ultra-squashy foam, I can easily feel the ENERGYRODS as I toe-off which is quite uncomfortable and irritates my neuroma. I also find the foam in the Pro 4's to require a higher cadence to mitigate some energy return loss from the compression. That could just be my perception but my legs feel like they don't have to work as hard in the Pro 3's. I also feel much more protected in the Pro 3's and my running form feels more natural. I find myself adjusting my running form in the Pro 4 to land more mid-to-heel in order to get a little more protection and use less energy from my stride. Looking forward to your next review.

It's amazing how different a person can feel in the same shoe. The pro 3 are as fast as anything out there for me. I even do my track sessions in them and I actually think the faster you run the better it is. I prefer the saucony pro 4 for marathon even though that shoe can be fast if you want it to. Just walking in the pro 3 you can feel the bounce. The pro 4 sounds like it's more a step towards the alphafly 3 and meataspeed sky paris.

I appreciate your reviews my friend!! I really get you :) I own both and I agree, I like them both but they don't seem to compare when it comes to interval workouts!! looking to replace my speed 4s now and I really struggle to find a good contentder for my speed workouts so I would love to hear a nice suggestion!!! Light, forefoot striker, high cadence runner here🤗

The pro 3 was a banger! Unfortunately for me, the Pro 4 is a slight backwards step. If Adidas had made the heel area of the pro 4 the same as the pro 3, then it would be a real winner, but that softer foam wrecks my achilles. I love the forefoot and upper and have no issues with sizing but as a midfoot/heel striker that Pro 4 is an issue for me and it also makes a horrible "suction" noise 😂 Definitely won't be using my pro 4's for anything over half-marathon

Great video! Since I dropped weight significantly, I find some shoes like the pro 4 feel so much better depending on the softness of the foam. But strangely though, the Novablast 4 which is on the firm side and I didn’t get on with, has suddenly come to life now I’m lighter 🙌🏽

I have 500km on my pro 3. I once wore an overly soft shoe for half a day and it totally wrecked my knees. I will never get the pro 4 because it is too soft and less stable.

I love my Pro 3's, but they're like two shoes in one, not in a good way. It's a Dr. Jekyll mid-sole with a Mr. Hyde upper. Side note, I got a pair of Amazon laces, the ones like vaporfly laces. They're similar, but wider. They made lacing up much easier, best 8 bucks I ever spent.

My foot did not fit in the pro 3, so i bought the pro 4. But its winter in Norway, so cant use them yet 😅

Great review, my friend loves the Pro 3 (like me) and got the Pro 4. He said he felt like the Pro 4 is great as long as you keep in good pace.. Once you crash it felt mushy.. He prefer the safety net of the Pro 3.

$320 for a daily trainer is a little bit pricey considering the competition it has .

Hello sir Can you help me to choose a shoes for 5k road run I'm 75kg with 172 CM height age 22 my 5k time is 18mins and I'm aiming for 16mins for 5k i couldn't decide which shoe to choose between sl2 -70 $ Noosa tri 16 - 52 $ Hyperion max - 80$ And I'm also gonna use the shoe for everyday run please help me to choose shoe between these Please reply I'm waiting for it😊😊😊😊

Hello sir Can you help me to choose a shoes for 5k road run I'm 75kg with 172 CM height age 22 my 5k time is 18mins and I'm aiming for 16mins for 5k i couldn't decide which shoe to choose between sl2 -70 $ Noosa tri 16 - 52 $ Hyperion max - 80$ And I'm also gonna use the shoe for everyday run please help me to choose shoe between these Please reply I'm waiting for it😊😊😊😊

Can Superblast 2 survive a half-marathon targeting 1:45？

Love your work mate. Great review

Nice comparison. Thanks.

Why would you choose Neo Zen instead of Novablast 5 if it was the case mate?