Inside Arrival's Revolutionary Microfactory

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@rushja
@rushja 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've seen this company explain their philosophy before but you put it so succinctly. I've heard Elon talking about the difficulties of making European cars vs US cars. Sandy Munro talking about the price of paint. They seem to have thought of all the difficult bits of manufacture and come up with a beautifully simple solution. It brings a tear to my eye when you compare this to a Diesel Ford Transit
@RayCromwell
@RayCromwell 3 жыл бұрын
The lynchpin of EV tho is battery manufacturing. Musk's gigafactories are trying to get output/$ reduced, and that comes from removing processes, reducing the number of steps, reducing the # of robots. So for example, Gigafactory replaces 300 robots with a single Gigapress and simple casts an entire car chassis in one or two steps. I think this company is comparing themselves with what Tesla's design was 3 years ago.
@kenjohnson6101
@kenjohnson6101 3 жыл бұрын
Automotive manufacturing as a cottage industry -- What a concept!
@markmahan7725
@markmahan7725 3 жыл бұрын
Not a cottage industry. Not if Black Rock, Uber, UPS, and other multinational goons are invested in it. The concept is wonderful and innovative. But partnering will only consolidate the financial and moneyed interests into the hands of the already criminal rich. Which mean cottage start ups wanting to use this technology. Will be barred from use or viability.
@1flash3571
@1flash3571 3 жыл бұрын
@@markmahan7725 Tesla have been doing this for years....They invent, and produce parts, materials, and items already...
@jeffsteyn7174
@jeffsteyn7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@1flash3571 go sleep fanboy no one was talking about tesla
@1flash3571
@1flash3571 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsteyn7174 Nobody cares about what you say, so go back to your mommy's basement.
@bholuwhoop5944
@bholuwhoop5944 3 жыл бұрын
NGL, that bus looks super cute....
@zqpcydbfoqbdiehdj
@zqpcydbfoqbdiehdj 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Dr.Kraig_Ren
@Dr.Kraig_Ren 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@ksr3535
@ksr3535 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!
@bredisfun
@bredisfun 3 жыл бұрын
I think Arrival is really doing something here, though I may just be bias b/c I love EV’s and Public Transport so much.
@SyncedJay
@SyncedJay 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@eriktempelman2097
@eriktempelman2097 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the "microfactory" concept was actually anticipated by Paul Nieuwenhuis and Peter Wells of the Cardiff Automotive Industry Research center... around 2002, if memory serves me well.
@mabriff
@mabriff 3 жыл бұрын
The film Minority Report was released in 2002 and featured a fight scene which took place inside a completely autonomous "microfactory" that produced electric-drive Lexus vehicles. The story on which the film is based, Philip K. Dick's The Minority Report, was published in 1956. It seems the concept of "microfactories" has been around a good while.
@gorrium5027
@gorrium5027 3 жыл бұрын
I think this will play a prominent role but I think larger factories will still be better for mass production and cost while these will help lower cost for local markets or as a support for a larger factory as it's Being built. I always wanted a composite car hope others will be ok with them
@evishadjipetrou
@evishadjipetrou 3 жыл бұрын
The Microfactory is perfect for big companies that want a few thousand vehicles in a specific configuration in a specific country. Think Rental car companies and Courier companies.
@gorrium5027
@gorrium5027 3 жыл бұрын
@@evishadjipetrou yeah thats what I was thinking, I just don't they could outright replace larger factories
@Zanagash
@Zanagash 3 жыл бұрын
I love that ! Learning about this company gave me great excitement ! I’m going to keep an eye on it !
@MobilediscowirralCoUk
@MobilediscowirralCoUk 3 жыл бұрын
At a great investment price now
@markbradley4756
@markbradley4756 3 жыл бұрын
Traditional car plants are usually geared up to only make one specific car, and employ hundreds of people. If sales of that car drop by 50%, the plant becomes uneconomical, and either needs a complete refit, or it closes. If you have 10 smaller plants making the same number of cars, you can just refit or close only half of them. This would be half the cost of refitting, or half as many people would lose their jobs. Plus, the ability to refit a smaller proportion of your production line means you could produce smaller numbers of each type of vehicle, and therefore keep making the vehicle that has just dropped to 50% of previous demand, when traditional plants would need a much larger demand to be economical.
@4droman
@4droman 3 жыл бұрын
did he say that steel is light? lol. It's one of the most heaviest metals that is suitable for consumer products
@josephroseen7188
@josephroseen7188 3 жыл бұрын
It is light though, when it comes to metals steel is one of the lightest atleast in comparison to weight/density and affordability
@Zethrax
@Zethrax 3 жыл бұрын
Light in terms of its viability for certain types of construction and manufacture, basically. This factors in strength to weight ratio, workability (the ability to work it into different useful shapes), cost, and availability.
@christalbot210
@christalbot210 3 жыл бұрын
Large factories can build a LOT of one thing very quickly and efficiently. However, a bunch of smaller factories can change relatively quickly and customize their product to the needs of the locality. Truthfully, while their manufacturing method is more flexible, it is their materials science that allows them to compete with the big factories. If the big factories were using the same materials science, they would be a great deal less expensive. That being said, I hope Arrival makes it big in the industry as I really do like their setup.
@BariumBlue
@BariumBlue 3 жыл бұрын
I love some of the concepts they introduce - the fiber body panels sounds neat, the modularity is cool, the way they can program the arms for updates or design changes is cool. But for the microfactory, I am not 100% what problem it solves: Shipping costs - there would still have to be materials shipped to each microfactory, and I'd imagine usually the price of shipping vehicles is usually negligible anyways (unless over oceans). Manufacture speed - There's no way that per square foot they're as fast as a dedicated designed megafactory at churning out vehicles. Cost - The tech is probably cheaper, but mainly because of the other innovations - namely the fiber body panels and ease of modularity Set-up speed & Scalability - this is one advantage - not much capital needed to set up or time investment needed to start a trickle of production, and makes production MUCH more scalable. That said large companies live on the margins rather than the up-front costs/revenue...
@tvguide4khv
@tvguide4khv 3 жыл бұрын
main thing is - take away local investment capital from ARRIVAL shoulders, its a partner hassle with a sales&service to local gov )))
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 жыл бұрын
No steel press. No paintshop. Aluminium frame. And I've seen the body panels hit with a hammer - it made no impression. No scratches. The taylor made software collects every metric imaginable transmitted in real time to the fleet managers. Same price as ICE with greater load and lower service and maintenance (less moving parts, and all modular) Test vans are already driverless. This allows them to enter warehouses fully auromated loading etc..
@PositronQ
@PositronQ 3 жыл бұрын
The replicators are a awesome simple engineering execution
@TubersAndPotatoes
@TubersAndPotatoes 3 жыл бұрын
4:35 so the composite material is 100% recyclable even as a finished product on the vehicle itself? Or is it only 100% recyclable before the glue, molding, and setting into a solid hard part?
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 3 жыл бұрын
Bio-chemistry is capable of duplicating virtually any oil byproduct today. Even Carbon Fibre.
@rickemmet1104
@rickemmet1104 3 жыл бұрын
Those "Cells" are just like the Czinger "Units." If more of one model are ordered, the software for another cell or unit can simply be switched to the other model. And presto, the factory turns out more of that model. It's a pretty amazing approach to manufacturing!
@guringai
@guringai 3 жыл бұрын
Still yet to arrive after a very long ramp. I really hope they start delivering really soon!
@mustaphaben2921
@mustaphaben2921 3 жыл бұрын
Any information about the composite how it's solidified?
@EddyKorgo
@EddyKorgo 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. Probably same like carbon fiber. Vacuum infused with resin.
@MikeGamesReview
@MikeGamesReview 3 жыл бұрын
The composite is PP black with fibre glass !
@claudioparisi7134
@claudioparisi7134 3 жыл бұрын
Safety Grade? Software? Battery? Material Strength?
@evishadjipetrou
@evishadjipetrou 3 жыл бұрын
KIA, Hyunday, BlackRock are investors. UPS and UBER are customers. Doubt your questions are a big issue.
@PrograError
@PrograError 3 жыл бұрын
I guess they really want to they could get the eurocap to crash test it ..
@guidedmeditation2396
@guidedmeditation2396 3 жыл бұрын
This company and concept has its place in simple appliance like fleet vehicles but there is also a place and a purpose for the mega factories as well. To test this out. Just imagine building a MODEL X in a micro factory.
@stevevincent588
@stevevincent588 2 жыл бұрын
This is a ground breaking manufacturing process to be able to use composite material that won’t work for mass production. Have seen the new concepts and they look great but none of this will work if they can’t get the Micro Factories to work. Prototypes are easy production to scale is not. I estimate that to make the production numbers work they need to make a van every 30 minutes. From information that I have seen it looks like their production rates might be a problem the modules seem slow and so does movement from module to module. Hope to see more information about hours needed to complete a vehicle and number of modules for complete process. Really pulling for Arrival to make this work composites are the material of future but need to figure out the production.
@isthispalash
@isthispalash 3 жыл бұрын
would be cool to see this whole thing decentralised. for true local artisanal heavy industry, the local must have a say in design. decentralisation can provide that.
@1956paterson
@1956paterson 3 жыл бұрын
Micro-factories have their merits but will certainly employ fewer people who will need completely different skills.
@zopEnglandzip
@zopEnglandzip 3 жыл бұрын
To produce the same number of vehicles they'll employ more people, it seems like the inverse of the Japanese model where toyota or sony buy components from one man back street factories.
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 2 жыл бұрын
I see no reason to believe that microfactories would employ less people than gigafactories. Modern car factories in general will have fewer and fewer people employed, but that is only because of automation so you will have that in gigafactories and microfactories (and all factories for that matter) alike.
@Yahudikiwi
@Yahudikiwi 3 жыл бұрын
Looks good. 2/3 way through and no talk of battery or software?
@Yahudikiwi
@Yahudikiwi 3 жыл бұрын
Then what is an all electric van about than the battery mileage and the software that drives the system? Just asking..
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yahudikiwi battery mileage is made-to-order. Software is provided as a collection of base APIs and libraries which you then build on top of yourself to provide an interface customised to your use.
@aion2177
@aion2177 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think it makes sense for them to focus on batteries or battery packs, when giants like tesla are doing it with 1000x the scale and budget. let them focus on what they can do best. i would actually be worried if they conduct battery reasearch.
@-cheshire-cat
@-cheshire-cat 3 жыл бұрын
Local people are employed, work isn't sent overseas. What a foreign concept!
@cjfletcher325
@cjfletcher325 3 жыл бұрын
Local robots : p
@nick_0
@nick_0 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjfletcher325 better than whatever China’s got
@19scamps92
@19scamps92 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't find those workers in the video to be honest
@Electronic424
@Electronic424 3 жыл бұрын
People aren't employed to begin with
@aion2177
@aion2177 3 жыл бұрын
@@nick_0 not sure what you are smoking. humans are the best robots. especially chinese which know how to work not lazy asses like here.
@skynoceros_
@skynoceros_ 3 жыл бұрын
I live in upstate SC, not far from the rock hill microfactory. I'm excited to see these vehicles in use and how they handle car wrecks. Because not a damn person can drive down here, and with the growing population of the area, I see that problem compounding.
@kingofracism
@kingofracism 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Dannydrinkbottom
@Dannydrinkbottom 3 жыл бұрын
I really love their recycling model. I would invest.
@cjjuszczak
@cjjuszczak 3 жыл бұрын
all other car manufacturers recycle their offcuts for their panels too, this is nothing new.
@Dannydrinkbottom
@Dannydrinkbottom 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjjuszczak thanks for insight.
@bartekjankowski8000
@bartekjankowski8000 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see size and complexity of systems that supply raw materials to those microfactories
@Steelrat1994
@Steelrat1994 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me 'raw' is a very generous word for it. The video is extremely vague. The only detail about production we got - replacement of steel sheets with some proprietary magic composite material. Not a word about how hundreds and hundreds of different components are going to be produced at those magical scalable cells. Either there are supposed to be different cell types producing different components/ doing the assembly or the components arrive manufactered somewhere else(bought from different countries). In which case it is going to be logistics hell to supply all those microfactories. Not a single word about batteries, or pretty much anything of essence.
@jackplant9232
@jackplant9232 3 жыл бұрын
I think these factories are only really for body and general assembly, other components would have to be made elsewhere
@jorsm.3893
@jorsm.3893 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jackplant9232 True but almost any material/component can be stacked and transported more efficiently than a finished car, so I guess there are minor gains there. I think they combine enough good idea's to have a chance at making it.
@evishadjipetrou
@evishadjipetrou 3 жыл бұрын
Stock price of ARVL is really cheap at the moment, at USD 13. Within 3 years this will be trading at over USD 100 !
@oneone8318
@oneone8318 3 жыл бұрын
or 0 USD
@WingTzu343
@WingTzu343 3 жыл бұрын
Is this financial advice?
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 жыл бұрын
I think $35 is more likely. To soon to say. I like that they have no debt.
@adrianmizzi5667
@adrianmizzi5667 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymanson1781 well that has changed since you posted this haha
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianmizzi5667 It certainly has - diluting the stock and delaying the start of production - Ouch! Shed loads of shorting activity. My guess is that only (if / ) when production starts will the price climb back into the $14-$16 range ???
@funny-video-YouTube-channel
@funny-video-YouTube-channel 3 жыл бұрын
Could only work for buses that can be build in low volume production. Cheap cars is harder in low volume production, otherwise everybody would do it. !
@simpleasliam657
@simpleasliam657 3 жыл бұрын
I work in large scale automotive manufacturing... this can work for small volumes, and sure the cost could mean they have the scalability but this will be a logistical nightmare for parts and I still struggle to see how it would work but I'm happy to have my opinion changed
@PixlRainbow
@PixlRainbow 3 жыл бұрын
I think their real product is not their vehicles; the real product is the microfactory. Arrival is a factory that makes factories. Companies rent them to have them set up quickly nearby when they need a fleet, then the microfactory could just as quickly be returned. The fact that Hyundai, a car manufacturer, is an investor instead of a competitor suggests that they do not see Arrival as a rival manufacturer, but rather a service provider they might engage.
@PrograError
@PrograError 3 жыл бұрын
@@PixlRainbow I got that feeling Hyundai might try that at their new Singapore plant (it's supposed to make bespoke customisable cars and taxis, according to the PR videos)
@LuisMailhos
@LuisMailhos 3 жыл бұрын
Great concept! I don't think however cars are the best product to profit from it
@PrograError
@PrograError 3 жыл бұрын
actually they are targeting the heavy vehicle segment - namely the van and the bus...
@noahderrington5156
@noahderrington5156 2 жыл бұрын
Arrival is such an awesome company, very impressive.
@cjfletcher325
@cjfletcher325 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept but can’t imagine it comparing to the scale of traditional lines and with the main question being will this composite material be accepted as a norm?
@gourav4672
@gourav4672 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Mercedes Benz is showing a lot of interest in making cars out of vinyl.
@evoniics9572
@evoniics9572 3 жыл бұрын
The production method is maybe good for a few thousand cars but I think its not as efficient as the "old" factory when it comes to scale to millions of cars.
@darkjill2007
@darkjill2007 3 жыл бұрын
Unless they build a micro factory in every city.
@Gareth.Walley
@Gareth.Walley 3 жыл бұрын
That is the point. Right now a commercial fleet operator has to just buy what everyone else gets, a vehicle model that has to be churned out at hundreds of thousands of units per year from the same centralised factory in order for the manufacturer to turn a profit. The microfactory concept allows them to get a vehicle tailored for their needs, and the manufacturer still makes money on a lower volume for that vehicle model. Win/Win.
@Kelvin555s
@Kelvin555s Жыл бұрын
Interesting really. I like to think the every product that we produce should be like modular in a way we can change parts of it as we want or replacement. It will save lots of money and the environment.
@luciernagagalactica4436
@luciernagagalactica4436 3 жыл бұрын
Brazil needs one of this fabrics for change the energy system around the country.
@venkate5hgunda
@venkate5hgunda 3 жыл бұрын
*Democratizing Hardware & Manufacturing is the next Industrial Revolution* Unlike Software, where most of the costs are operational, and a high chances of quicker ROI, Hardware Development & Manufacturing has always been a capital intensive business, and the cost of a failure is too expensive. Hence, there are practically no new entrants compared to Software. Technologies like 3D-printing, Modular Manufacturing, Robotics & Automation etc. are soon going to change that. I believe it is not going to replace the traditional manufacturing, but rather complement it, by providing early stage concepts a fighting chance in the open market. Once it needs to scale up, Integrated Manufacturing Plants (like Giga-Factories), Huge Assembly Lines etc. should still be the better way in terms of efficiency, scalability and mass-manufacturing.
@dinuvrghs
@dinuvrghs 3 жыл бұрын
War factory from command and conquer games comes to life
@eldiablo8019
@eldiablo8019 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they do well, UPS and the other package delivery companies need to speed up their transition to EVs.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
Making EVs for cargo carrying is close to impossible. It's hard even for package delivery vehicles. The reason is, you need a shit ton of battery when the weight of cargo becomes comparable to vehicles.
@eldiablo8019
@eldiablo8019 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Well that's just nonsense. They don't need a huge amount of range, and can be recharged during the drivers lunch break. Did you even watch the video. Arrival is going to start production this year, and Amazon placed an order for 100,000 cargo vans from Rivian. You should do a shit ton more research.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@eldiablo8019 Orders? It's more of a research project. Rivian is yet to even design the truck. It's almost like Amazon has just made an investment in Rivian, which is praiseworthy. But these are gonna be short range vans carrying lightweight cargo. And what we've is a research project - just what I've said.
@eldiablo8019
@eldiablo8019 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 " Short range vans carrying light weight cargo " That's exactly what they are supposed to be, urban package delivery vans you IDIOT. " yet to even design the truck " They have working prototypes on the road you MORON.
@chrisconklin2981
@chrisconklin2981 3 жыл бұрын
You used to be able to order a new home kit from Sears Roebuck & Co. The kit was delivered to your home site with instructions. Maybe I will be able to order an EV Kit. Maybe the family will want to ride in it.
@jamelwatson6430
@jamelwatson6430 3 жыл бұрын
Arrival looks promising, love the 1 second clip of the Lucid air too 😉
@mwmentor
@mwmentor 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool from start to finish / I like it. Something to watch and possibly even invest in…
@evishadjipetrou
@evishadjipetrou 3 жыл бұрын
ArVL at 13 at moment. Near all time low.
@whatwouldbenice
@whatwouldbenice 3 жыл бұрын
This company will go far
@CIIZARmusic
@CIIZARmusic 3 жыл бұрын
it's definitely a way... I actually think, that both ways of manufacturing will have their spaces... Arrival with its public transportation devices and local features... and yet on a mass scale those Gigafactory settings will prevail as well, because we talk about a global shift in transportation modes within the next 25 years or so... that's a lot of cars that have to be produced, and 20-40 per micro factory cell isn't that much even if you scale it up a lot, isn't it?
@paracog
@paracog 3 жыл бұрын
Bucky Fuller is grinning in whatever dymaxion he is currently inhabiting.
@Poxenium
@Poxenium 3 жыл бұрын
2:03 Tesla's Nevada Gigafactory is a horrible example for what you're trying to argue. First of all it's a joint venture and Panasonic doesn't want to innovate as fast as Tesla would like, so they are shutting down that project as soon as possible. Tesla's new Gigafactory projects are 8x denser, meaning that they'll make 250GWh of batteries per year, instead of the ~34GWh output of the Nevada factory. Arrival is doing final assembly at the microfactories, which is absolutely irrelevant from any point of view. The parts and materials still have to be shipped across the same distance. It just means a lot more headaches for engineers, when they are upgrading the lines or trying to fix a problem. They have to travel to hundreds of factories instead of just a couple of big ones.
@Quantum_Beyblados
@Quantum_Beyblados 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for informing me. Making something modular is great but it doesn't solve all problems. Maybe the video is too optimistic? I like objective videos rather than side-picking ones.
@philipdrew10
@philipdrew10 3 жыл бұрын
Your right it doesnt work. Carbon fibre is more expensive, dont manufacture batteries, they just assemble the final parts built somewhere else. But the biggest thing is...quality control thousands of microfactories means quality control is a nightmare
@Steelrat1994
@Steelrat1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@philipdrew10 logistics and supply chains are going to be a nightmare as well. They either are going to have to keep an extremely oversized stock of components(which is money wasted) or have a significant downtime in those microfactories, whenever they lack one of the hundreds different components or some machine breaks. Would you rather configure 10 extremely big machines at 3 sites with a whole team of specialists and keep maintaining them or configure 10000 of them at 10000 different sites and just keep rolling around when one of them breaks. Based on the info provided in the video(basically no info) the idea seems quite pointless.
@Present-Tense
@Present-Tense 3 жыл бұрын
Given that larger population centers favor public transportation, their market is more localized and concentrated than Tesla's.
@NACAFarm
@NACAFarm 3 жыл бұрын
British automotives are compact and cute. Which makes it compatible to other old cities with narrow roads. Strange looking but efficient
@davem3325
@davem3325 3 жыл бұрын
sound great - Please build some of these micro factories in AUSTRALIA ! We need manufacturing back!
@19scamps92
@19scamps92 3 жыл бұрын
May i ask you how many workers you have seen in the video making that vehicle sir?
@davem3325
@davem3325 3 жыл бұрын
@@19scamps92 ok, not many, but there will be workers, main office, service people etc plus profits and taxes
@markreed9853
@markreed9853 3 жыл бұрын
...you need an actual goverment in Australia that actually wants EV's first!- Victoria taxing them already!!
@davem3325
@davem3325 3 жыл бұрын
@@markreed9853 your correct - i am pissed of with the aussie government complete ignorance of green tech. we are run and controlled by the RUPERT MURDOCH EVIL EMPIRE!
@srxovmail
@srxovmail 3 жыл бұрын
If something sounds to good to be true... it is.
@senoow4215
@senoow4215 3 жыл бұрын
Probably is**
@americanindependantmedia9229
@americanindependantmedia9229 3 жыл бұрын
World modulation, in more than just automobiles, is the future. Everyone on the same page, so to speak.
@maxwellwinslow
@maxwellwinslow 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that "1 million euros per square foot to create a factory"... so 1-5 Trillion euros to make a factory. I think this might be wrong.
@llexa3
@llexa3 3 жыл бұрын
realy cool !! i like to use that material for my exoskeleton
@imjody
@imjody 3 жыл бұрын
Great work, Arrival. :)
@patrickmurphy3308
@patrickmurphy3308 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would cost more to have a lot of microfactories. Materiel would have to be supplied to a lot of different locations. Therefore you wouldn't save on delivery costs.
@kazijafranislam4571
@kazijafranislam4571 3 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation of the hardware but how about the battery & the software??
@philipdrew10
@philipdrew10 3 жыл бұрын
Its really just an assembly plant though I think. Car factories like Tesla cast and stamp all their parts. This sneekily leaves out the 2 weeks waiting for the parts to arrive 🙄 Edit: This doesnt work because of...quality control
@Steelrat1994
@Steelrat1994 3 жыл бұрын
and logistics. and maintenance. and... basically it just doesn't work.
@philipdrew10
@philipdrew10 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steelrat1994 Well if they thought it through they couldnt ipo with a "unique" product and get a shit ton of cash 😅
@chefinwhitecoat
@chefinwhitecoat 2 жыл бұрын
This is stupid, the logistics to get the parts will be a nightmare
@Guurur
@Guurur 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on ENERGOUS? and explain the potential of it..I want to know what ur thought are..Thanks
@mikeheffernan
@mikeheffernan 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Future Shock is now.
@haloklawsedwin934
@haloklawsedwin934 3 жыл бұрын
what about the safety of the vehicle since it is fixed with adhesives .
@coreytaylor447
@coreytaylor447 3 жыл бұрын
it as good as welding, with most industrial use glues and adhesives you would never notice a difference and in the event of a crash, the more important aspects of these car for survival is the seats and air bags
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 3 жыл бұрын
these adhesives are used in commercial planes, safety is a forgone conclusion.
@morilot
@morilot 3 жыл бұрын
@@coreytaylor447 In 2006 when I went to uni the strongest steel glue was 32kg/mm² a stirweld over 70kg/mm². But welds can only be made in the peripheral while glue can be applied to the whole surface, that makes it a stronger bind if the geometry is right. Also there will be less flex with glue than welds.
@19scamps92
@19scamps92 3 жыл бұрын
There are hole train-cabins fixed with adhesives- no problem at all
@PrograError
@PrograError 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the first crash test...
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Arrival is mainly aiming for the cargo vehicles. So, how are they tackling the capacity issue? Since batteries weighs 5 times more than gas for same energy, EVs will simply have smaller space left for carrying cargo after putting in all the batteries. The fact that Arrival cars will be made of fabrics and glue will make them even more unsuitable for carrying heavy load. How is Arrival aiming to handle these?
@Quantum_Beyblados
@Quantum_Beyblados 3 жыл бұрын
Good Questions. It won't have so much space and weight for cargo so glue&fabric isn't a problem now. It comes after solving space&weight issues.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@Quantum_Beyblados But I'm jumping over and raising another issue. Now that of longevity and reliability. The fact that people are exited without asking any question is very concerning.
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure their commercial vehicles have a steel chassis, it's the body that is composite. There is a bus company in the UK testing their passenger vehicles as we speak.
@aniksamiurrahman6365
@aniksamiurrahman6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyMotel99 If such is the case, then we're back to large factories and their core promise of "small decentralized factories" is just that.
@Quantum_Beyblados
@Quantum_Beyblados 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 We people must be more suspicious. If I didn't read many comments including yours, I'd be one of that people. Looking at comments is very useful against side-picking videos.
@peternee9641
@peternee9641 3 жыл бұрын
Nice concept, just unsure on the volume requirements
@gavinblack2956
@gavinblack2956 2 жыл бұрын
Even tho that I'm down 82∆% Im sill holding the stock! I believe in the company. But what a great time to get In
@florinserbabh4560
@florinserbabh4560 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, sorry to hear that mate, ive also been buying after my first purchase at 13 a year ago. And got to 25k shares now under 1.7$ i hope it pays off
@kendavis5686
@kendavis5686 3 жыл бұрын
When will they make a UK designed Estrima Biro type of micro-electric car?
@martinnicol5130
@martinnicol5130 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see more on this.
@grzegorzjuchniewicz7158
@grzegorzjuchniewicz7158 3 жыл бұрын
What about propulsion system; battery R&D, range, super capacitors, tyres, and super charging ? will Hitachi deliver these technical solutions ?
@guru47pi
@guru47pi 3 жыл бұрын
What's the 5yr ROI per mfg cell? Put differently, how many custom vans and buses can it make per unit of time, and what's the premium they can charge for the benefits of their custom vehicles so we can figure out if this is economical?
@nickm1727
@nickm1727 3 жыл бұрын
the cost of building/shipping those robots seems high. and then you have to distribute the input materials to the micro-factories, which could be very inefficient.
@Z3N1T4
@Z3N1T4 3 жыл бұрын
But you still have to transport materials to the factory and on site troubleshooting skills would be limited if a problem arises which it always does in complicated systems. I suppose you could use remote troubleshooting not sure how effective that would be.
@alhdlakhfdqw
@alhdlakhfdqw 3 жыл бұрын
incredible videos thank you very much! :)
@The_KiteRunner
@The_KiteRunner 3 жыл бұрын
0:07 ha! they used sunny and Oxfordshire in the same sentence.
@alparslankorkmaz2964
@alparslankorkmaz2964 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@witnesstochange1801
@witnesstochange1801 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic innovation
@rajasimanta
@rajasimanta 3 жыл бұрын
I'd invest in that company
@xcortians482
@xcortians482 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious arrival is based in Luxembourg not UK
@faridjafari6356
@faridjafari6356 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video!
@uprightape100
@uprightape100 3 жыл бұрын
Its vapor until I see one on the streets.
@cherubin7th
@cherubin7th 2 жыл бұрын
So this is basically the evil version of local motors.
@karsevak.hanuman
@karsevak.hanuman 3 жыл бұрын
Video on tram, economics, environmental and societal effects
@ChaoticNeutralMatt
@ChaoticNeutralMatt 3 жыл бұрын
Other than purely electric, among other details, pretty nice setup.
@insectbite1714
@insectbite1714 3 жыл бұрын
Electric cars are the only way to save the enviorment right now and right here you Boomer.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 3 жыл бұрын
Electric is ideally suited to vehicles that do lots of laden stop and go, as well as vehicles that return to a depot at the end of their route. Electric vehicles are 90ish percent efficient compared to about 30-35% for diesel or petrol. Electric vehicles don't have any ignition, fuel, exhaust to maintain and rarely need brakes or fluid changes because of re-gen and no nasty combustion by-products. Meanwhile... even the dirtiest coal plant produces energy _much_ cleaner than an ICE when compared to equal motive power. Honestly the only concern I've ever heard that bears merit is range anxiety for long distance travel, and those 1,000 mile days have been tackled by many publications and KZbinrs. Delivery vans and buses are the low hanging fruit that can make real change in economy and quality of life fro those that rely on them.
@bamzy_07
@bamzy_07 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are jx so good🤩
@navajyotichetia3211
@navajyotichetia3211 3 жыл бұрын
In an accident when the "modular" Vehicle ripps apart- your body loses its parts (organs) modularely- you heart ,kidney etc could be given to transplant patients
@IKEMENOsakaman
@IKEMENOsakaman 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh tech and design meets
@luzi29
@luzi29 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm local assembly is not the same as actual production. Like they will definitely not produce all components on site. Like motors, batteries, etc.
@danos5181
@danos5181 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How much of this is reality and how much well directed fantasy is beyond me. The market price for this company has plummeted. Too many promises, too many models and not enough action. How about putting to market ONE product (vans), before anything else? The longer they waffle with actually production, the harder it will be to bring more investment money and the greater the chance they will burn their money to oblivious bankruptcy.
@cloudengineerscorner
@cloudengineerscorner 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like someone from Arrival read this comment, since apparently they will be pausing work on car & bus in favour of putting a van to commercial use
@danoconnor4452
@danoconnor4452 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what car is shown at 2:55?
@groverroseitp4476
@groverroseitp4476 2 жыл бұрын
You should also talk about Tesla factory since they are the faster car production and is leading the electric vehicle.
@iotiiotengineeringsolution2913
@iotiiotengineeringsolution2913 3 жыл бұрын
Super Luxurious bus... :)
@Electronic424
@Electronic424 3 жыл бұрын
That bus doesn't look like it would survive a crash
@markmahan7725
@markmahan7725 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! Accept for the partnership of the worst in finance and industry. Such as Black Rock. The core of the model is brilliant and super innovative. However partnering with some of the most destructive and abusive multinational corporations and financial crooks. Will only make things worse in the near to long term future. Which will impact not just people but the environment and always in a negative ways.
@TheColdestWater
@TheColdestWater 3 жыл бұрын
SHED-ULED
@mattc2812
@mattc2812 3 жыл бұрын
Those factories are just for assemblies. Where do all the parts come from? I'm thinking we're missing some important and critical information here.
@ericcarabetta1161
@ericcarabetta1161 3 жыл бұрын
So is that fabric like a fiberglass type thing, or are those trucks soft like pillows?
@KingFinnch
@KingFinnch 3 жыл бұрын
pillow trucks would be dope asf
@robin09999
@robin09999 2 жыл бұрын
The title of the video is “Inside Arrivals microfactory”, imply new footage of the factory, instead it’s just some guy prattling on using marketing footage and nothing new
@jameshoffman552
@jameshoffman552 3 жыл бұрын
"Prototypes are easy; volume production is hard" -Elon Arrival apparently has some vehicle prototypes, but it's micro-factory concept doesn't even appear to be at the prototype stage. And promotional videos like this one show no awareness of the economics of volume production, let alone what's required technically.
@johnredford942
@johnredford942 3 жыл бұрын
This might be fine for forming and attaching body panels, but most of a vehicle's components are made of complex metal assemblies. This composite cloth won't work for those. This isn't going to build the chassis, or the drive train, or the brakes, or the suspension, never mind the batteries or the motors. This is automating one part of car manufacturing, and not even the hard part. All of those other pieces have to come from somewhere else, and transporting small lots of them to tiny assembly shops isn't cost-effective all by itself. They're going to be snapping together parts from other makers, probably Hyundai and Kia, who are investing. This is a play to get some British content to avoid tariffs.
@kenmacallister
@kenmacallister 3 жыл бұрын
This video skips over a couple of major drawbacks of Arrival’s approach- a Tesla gigafactory is highly vertically integrated. Those factories make almost everything that goes into the vehicle. Arrival depends on massive global supply chains, meaning parts shipped from all over the planet cancel out any gains in not having to deliver vehicles quite as far. Second, microfactories have extremely low production volume, producing tens of vehicles a day, whereas a gigafactory can produce many hundreds, into thousands of vehicles a day, which makes microfactories incredibly inefficient by comparison.
@dinesh665
@dinesh665 3 жыл бұрын
what happens to raw materials? doesnt that increase the overhead, You need metal, glass, electric components, tires. How does the supply chain get managed?
@Steelrat1994
@Steelrat1994 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a completely impossible logistics hell. Distributing the components/raw materials to thousands of sites would require an incredibly sophisticated system with a lot of inefficiencies and downtime on microfactories imo.
@jackplant9232
@jackplant9232 3 жыл бұрын
I think the concept is that wherever possible raw materials would be locally sourced too, although I can see issues with more expensive raw materials due to low scale and obviously some materials won't be able to be locally sourced
@evishadjipetrou
@evishadjipetrou 3 жыл бұрын
It is not thousands of sites, it will be a few tens of sites. This is a perfect model for courier and car rental companies that need bespoke vehicles of a few thousands. The supply chain is sourced within the country that the vehicles will be built. it is done through parts that already exist in the specific market.
@PrograError
@PrograError 3 жыл бұрын
I guess eventually it would be done regionally, nationally. Presuming a particular part is the same in every model, they would mass produce it somewhere nearby before transshipment. Where the orders for a vehicle might be split between a few sites depending on the order with priority for the nearest site.
@PabloAlbarracin
@PabloAlbarracin Жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@pooglechen3251
@pooglechen3251 3 жыл бұрын
Musk said, making a prototype is 100x easier than making it scale. This sounds like it's all prototypes and will be expensive
@WingTzu343
@WingTzu343 3 жыл бұрын
This. I'm very skeptical on the reliability of said process. Especially with whatever their composite material is.
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