Adnan Syed, focus of "Serial" Podcast, details new evidence uncovered in 1999 murder case (Part 2)

[@Toracube]

She needs justice.

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

True ... but not at the expense of an innocent man ...

[@tommym321]

This guy is so unbelievably guilty and his sanctimonious lying is really hard to watch.

[@LJ-jj2lu]

u dont know that

[@tommym321]

@@LJ-jj2lu Yep, I do. Based on the mountain of evidence and his complete lack of any alibi or explanation whatsoever. He is guilty as sin, not debatable unless you lie about the evidence.

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

@@tommym321 What mountain of evidence ?

[@KaisTheLimit]

His classmate testified that he literally helped him bury the body.. what are we talking about ???

[@JatinderKumar-pv2cy]

Wrong, Jay wilds was not his classmate, he was a weed dealer. And the procecuter of Adnan , provided Jay legal help, for his testimony. Which is misconduct.

[@somebody701]

Is his first trial available anywhere?

[@malikarao3520]

He said when she left she was wearing heels. It’s possible she took her shoes off. The shoes she was wearing when she left? She was walking everywhere. Come on. And how does he know she was wearing heels.

[@jlkailua]

Hae's grandma said she was wearing heels that day and Adnan is likely repeating what was in witness testimony. And he saw her the day she went missing so it wouldn't be odd for him to know what she was wearing.

[@malikarao3520]

@@jlkailua Thanks for the knowledge. She also did a bunch of other things that day. My point is they’re making a big deal about shoes and dna on shoes. It doesn’t not prove anything. Does not prove Adnan innocent. There could have been anyone’s dna at the bottom of someone’s shoe. Sometimes the truth is the simplest. He did it. If he didn’t Jay would be in prison right now. For her murder. But no one is turning that stone not even Adnan

[@bitcoin9930]

​@@jlkailuahe remembers what she was wearing but can't remember where he was when the cop called him and asked for Hae??? Okkkkk

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

Took her shoes off ? So she was driving around in winter without her shoes on ? Is that how you drive ? Bare foot ? He was in the same class as her on the day she went missing .... He would have seen what she was wearing ....Hae's family also confirmed what she was wearing

[@malikarao3520]

He needs to sit down one on one for an interview with some hard questions.

[@ninguno141]

In the world, every day there are dozens of murders of women at the hands of their boyfriends or their husbands when they decide to leave them. "I killed her because she was mine."

[@kellyfitzpatrick7763]

Jay’s testimony? Really? And just how worthy is his word as a drug dealer out of his own grandma’s house? He should be in prison!

[@kellyfitzpatrick7763]

Narcissistic? What would you do? I’m not saying he’s innocent, but I was not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Adnan did it. And I find it hard to believe that 12 jurors were so blind to the law as it is stated.

[@twofish.6579]

I hope there is a retrial because he will go back to prison where he belongs.

[@Rosyrose101]

Just because the prosecutors were crooked DOES NOT MEAN ADNAN IS INNOCENT.

[@nahidbne7431]

Yes just because Adnan is a Muslim , and has an ethnic background, he must go jail, no matter what.

[@Rosyrose101]

@nahidbne7431 just cause he's Muslim, you can't use that to hide the fact he's a murderer. Just saying

[@Rosyrose101]

If you bringing race into this why didn't the cops just put everything Jay who's black with priors....I'll wait

[@malikarao3520]

@@nahidbne7431No one said that. He’s fighting for the way the case was handled. He’s banking on that. He’s not sitting there saying bring Jay back. He needs to be looked at. Cause he knows. That lid cannot open.

[@opaljk4835]

@@Rosyrose101oh that one’s actually super simple…they were looking for someone with motive to kill Hae, and Jay was willing to point the finger to ostensibly keep himself out of hot water. So…yeah, that’s not the gotcha you think it is.

[@acc4465]

Someone who is polite can also murder - some reason this boggles the mind of simple people. This overly compassionate personality is all fake. He might be the nicest guy - he still committed murder.

[@supremercommonder]

Prove it

[@acc4465]

@@supremercommonder he was the only person who would have wanted to kill her - he was very controlling of her - he has no alibi - there is a witness to her murder who testified against him. Go to trial again - he’ll lose again.

[@supremercommonder]

@@acc4465 he does there only Jay wild witness statement which is clearly not reliable. He addressed that note and showed it credabity it bluffs Eric the one who lied thoughout. The lividity of hae body doesn’t match when they say he did it. It shows 10:30 when she was buried not 6:30 like they claim he did. Her body shows she was strangled while facing down her car shows no struggle of that. There no dna that matches adnan in her nails if she put up a fight. No dna or clothing matches him at the scene. He wasn’t the current boyfriend hae was going to meet her current boyfriend that day who mum gave a false alibi for saying he was at work when he wasn’t. The person who discovered her body is a suspect as he works at a concrete facility. He body has a print of that. also there a home nearby. He randomly went to piss and found her body. There was a relased inmate who has since died but also raped and killed a Korean women few months before in the same place. There Jay himself who Eric and the rest of the prosecution force protect. So many actual suspects. Yet none match adnan.

[@ynwalfc.9711]

​@acc4465 what do you know him 🤔

[@truth3554]

​@@acc4465go on and listen to Bob Ruff's detailed replies to the Prosecutors podcast's each episode. You'll see the truth clearly.

[@milart12]

There is NOTHING new here. Why doesn't Adnan admit that he killed that poor girl and ask forgiveness for killing her and wasting everyone's time?

[@zelim9514]

"Nothing"? Sorry, you call an investigator manipulating a witness testimony to say the defendant said he wanted to kill the victim when in reality the original testimony *was about someone else entirely* NOTHING? What if *that* person killed Hae and no one ever investigated them because they were obsessed with forcing the little evidence they had to fit Adnan instead of doing a proper investigation? Is that fair *to Hae?* You are just like them, you will be happy as long as the result aligns with your biases. You don't care about what's doing right by Hae, you just want to be right.

[@milart12]

You should be ashamed of yourself to suggest that my firm conviction that Adnan killed that poor girl stems from any bias. The evidence against him is overwhelming. Only the most gullible, naive person in the world would believe otherwise.@@zelim9514

[@crippledalien5937]

It’s all lies. Correct ✅ Adnan needs to give it up. Enough with the fraud. And he is complicit with all of this! Unbelievable.

[@crippledalien5937]

@@zelim9514You have been fooled unfortunately. Whilst this all sounds terrible..it’s all lies. Hopefully in October this madness ends. Adnan needs to go back to prison. He was wrongfully vacated!

[@zelim9514]

@@crippledalien5937 So you say that this person is lying on the affidavit about the original comment *not* being about Adnan? Do you understand they could get in serious legal trouble for that? Do you understand that they are probably a regular civilian that has nothing to gain and a lot to lose if they lie like that??? Honestly I am tired of all you "guilters", you have the same mentality as the prosecutors, the end justifies the means, you think Adnan is guilty so therefore everything and anything under the sun is okay as long as it's done to keep him in jail, you don't care if it's lying, coaching, manipulation, persuasion, or even fucking lying in a court of law under oath. I bet that if we somehow got solid evidence that Jay was coached (like some hidden video tapes surfacing or some shit) you would still claim that it's fine because "Adnan is guilty." NO, it is not fine, it is not okay, I don't care if he is guilty or not the prosecution and the investigation into this case are a fucking travesty of justice and I don't want that to happen in this country. That's what I care about and it's what we should all care about. Instead there are people like you who all you care about is that in your own personal opinion he is guilty so he must be in jail forever by any means necessary, regardless of wether those means are ethical, moral, or even legal. I have accepted that as the case stands it is honestly impossible to determine whether Adnan is guilty or not *without a shadow of a doubt* so he shouldn't be in jail because they didn't prove shit. Justice is not served on the basis of your feelings or your intuition, it has to be based on facts, evidence, and people are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. I don't give a shit what you think, I am asking an honest question. The tip was *not* about Adnan, it was about *someone else* so, what if that person killed Hae and no one ever investigated them because they were obsessed with forcing the little evidence they had to fit Adnan instead of doing a proper investigation? *Do you think that would be fair for Hae?* That her killer might still be out there and here you are saying no more investigation is needed and just put back in jail this guy who she deeply cared about and might very well be innocent. But you personally think he is guilty, so that's fine. No what ifs, no investigation, no more evidence, the lies don't matter, the manipulation doesn't matter, the Brady violations don't matter, making sure we have the right person doesn't matter. All that matters is that your personal opinion is validated. I am tired of that.

[@ShannynFrank]

If the AG really doesn’t have authority to investigate crooked prosecutors, and the Bar Council doesn’t get staffed, and Adnan finally has his conviction overturned, again, I hope he sues those two prosecutors for $100M in damages.

[@acc4465]

He’s so guilty.

[@ArohaStill]

​@@acc4465possible but there is clearly procedural and investigative issues that didn't warrant a fair trial

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

Why the fuck would you expect to find the killer's DNA on the bottom of her shoes?

[@Eman__7]

Because she was wearing her shoes before the incident and after the incident she was barefoot. So there is a possibility that the killer has taking her shoes off .. maybe to assault her or other reason. Just there is a possibility. She could have been grabbed by her legs in the car and she was fighting or trying to escape and the killer was pulling her from her legs and possibly her shoes. I am still hesitant about wither he is innocent or not. But why the hell wouldn’t they process all DNA samples? Why not test all her clothes or items?? Just why! If I was one of her family member I would fight to test all crime scene items and get to the truth. It is maybe his DNA then the authorities could dump him in jail and he would not get to play the “wrongly convicted” card .. or perhaps the killer is someone else and the authorities could throw him in jail and made him pay for that innocent soul. She needs for her killer to be found and let him pay for his actions.

[@ShannynFrank]

It was tested. Male DNA was found on her shoes which were placed into her car after Hae died and it was NOT Adnans DNA. I want to know if the alternative suspect who threatened to kill Hae has had his DNA compared to what was found on Haes shoes

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

@@Eman__7 The Innocence Project uses this trick all the time. They'll test an item that's been in a public place. Then when it has someone else's DNA or better yet, a partial profile, they claim reasonable doubt, drop a smoke bomb and disappear. Few people will have the presence of mind to question the *relevance* of the sample. Like was she even wearing those shoes to school that day? Were they sneakers or dress shoes? All this proves is she stepped in something!

[@crippledalien5937]

@@Eman__7Don’t be fooled. The DNA is nothing! Bottom of her shoes after 23 yrs? You really think that is the answer? Everything he says here is fraudulent. I can’t believe he has the audacity to lie

[@josietrott]

@@paulthomas963 And who do you think drove her car AFTER she was murdered and left it somewhere to be found after she was discovered? Who put her shoes neatly in the trunk? Hae Min Lees DNA wasn't on the shoes - multiple males were and none of them were Adnan. She wasn't the last person to handle her own shoes.

[@Ydraug]

if they send him him back to jail with no true convincing evidence this system is fucked and they courts are covering they're fuck up ( which is criminal ) and they are not interested in justice only to present the illusion of justice

[@crippledalien5937]

Adnan lying 🤥

[@supremercommonder]

Evidence?

[@milart12]

Why would you ask a silly question like that? If you are familiar with the case, you already know the mountain of evidence against Syed, He WAS convicted after all.@@supremercommonder

[@supremercommonder]

@@milart12 everything been refuted he still be convicted otherwise

[@milart12]

@@supremercommonder Haha. Says you

[@acc4465]

The first thing guilty people do is discuss how they feel so bad for all the other people who are imprisoned unjustly. They seem to want to talk about other people - not themselves. This is very telling. A person truly convicted unjustly wouldn’t be so concerned with others. Syed needs to go back to prison. He committed murder.

[@supremercommonder]

He debunked any evidence brought against him. Disproved the prosecution as being fair. So what will you bring to show he guilty

[@ynwalfc.9711]

😂😂😂 get a life

[@___JT]

Amen

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

​@@supremercommonderSaying something has been debunked _ipse dixit_ doesn't make it so.

[@acc4465]

@@supremercommonder there is no evidence he’s innocent - it’s the same evidence in the original trial - no alibi, Jay’s testimony. You guys who deny everything are funny - not every murder can be on recorded - you have to rely on who had the motive, opportunity. There is zero reason to doubt Jay’s testimony. All recounts of evidence will alter over time. That doesn’t mean it’s false. Every expert in history will tell you - a story over time changes - memories become faded, etc. This is why we don’t retry cases 30 years later - which is what you dummies always want to do.

[@MuMu124]

It's awesome finally seeing him fighting for himself the way he couldn't when he was 17...

[@AngelTorres-gm2bm]

He killed that girl

[@MuMu124]

@@AngelTorres-gm2bm prove it. The state couldn't prove it with just Jay's testimony they needed it to fit with the cell tower pings that's why he has like 7 different accounts and multiple accounts of where he saw her body...how do you not remember where you saw the body of a dead person? Was it at best buy? The pool hall? Outside granny's house? The strip mall?

[@truth3554]

​@@MuMu124all these people has to say is, He did it, He killed that girl... 😶

[@acc4465]

He’s so guilty.

[@supremercommonder]

Prove it

[@DrSebby]

So weird this case. There's SO much circumstantial evidence against him, zero direct evidence... but it seems impossible to pretend he's innocent - AND YET... he seems & sounds like someone who truly didn't commit the crime. At the very least, considering he was 17 at the time, and the crime was not particularly gruesome or cruel (in terms of murders), i think he's paid his price already. Let him out... that's why they differentiate between adults & minors.

[@josietrott]

There's no circumstantial evidence against him. There's a changing story by a liar who was protected by prosecutors because they needed his lies to convict Adnan.

[@alohaXamanda]

Would love it if they tested the DNA found under her fingernail

[@billlozier5551]

No brainer. Adnan killed Hae.

[@opaljk4835]

That’s so dumb. Even if he did do this, it needs to be scrutinized till the truth is undoubtedly revealed. We can’t just go on your lack of thought as a reason.

[@billlozier5551]

@@opaljk4835 hey pal, Jay was the eye witness. He saw and helped bury the body. Adnan killed Rea. All the evidence is there. The police are convinced. Nothing has changed. Adnan is a killer but with dumb thinking people like you he gets a pass.

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

Any evidence to support that ?

[@billlozier5551]

@Ghost_Rider_786 Yeah there's plenty. Look for yourself. The police got their man and they said it. Jay came forward and knew where her car was. Eyewitnesses is than any witness. Jays story about the events are suspect but hell he was high that day too. How much can you remember somber? One fact is Jay was in the car when Adnan should him Haes body in the trunk. Finally the MOUNTAIN of evidence is against Adnan. No other arrests or suspects. It's was Jay or he just happened to have the worst luck and a bad time to not remember where he was those hours Hae was being strangled. Btw strangled is more often than not a crime of passion. You believe what you want. You probably voted for Harris if you think Adnan is innocent. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@billlozier5551]

@@opaljk4835 no brainer means you don't need a brain 🧠 to know he killed her. Congratulations on having one but don't use it. That's how killers like Adnan get out. Sleep well.

[@jenniferhill6984]

Mr. Syed, you are one of the most empathetic, compassionate people. I will always support your innocence.

[@mckernan603]

Why did he ask her for a ride?

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

Me too !

[@manojthaker3678]

Adnan Syed Will you settle for $ 50 millions check tax free paid by state of Maryland tax payers. ???

[@elainetassy]

Adnan is a strong, humble, good man. It's obvious he is innocent. Let him live his life!!!

[@billlozier5551]

Adnan may be a strong, humble, good man now. But he was a jealous, calculator and angry teenager who committed murder. Jay is all proof you need. He had no malice. He just had a conscience that Adnan doesn't.

[@nahidbne7431]

Adnan's Muslim identity seems like disturbing for some procecters

[@skitzrv9773]

They got it right the 1st time, you are no victim

[@supremercommonder]

Prove it

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

@@supremercommonder The burden is on you.

[@supremercommonder]

@@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094 😂 you can’t bring one piece of evidence because there nothing it all been debunked just say it cause you personally don’t like him or it cause he is Muslim or something

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

@@supremercommonder You gotta admit those are good reasons.

[@supremercommonder]

@@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094 but those have been debunked and the reason why he was let out is because they didn’t convince the judge. Your just a troll

[@iMatti00]

👨‍⚖️ ~ If there was never a podcast about this trial then we would never know about the prosecutor misconduct when he convinced a witness to not show up to an appellate court hearing. In fact, imagine how much would never have happened. Even though I have a lot of problems with more left-leaning people, right wing conservatives have trusted prosecutors basically 100% throughout history, and it has been more left-wing liberals that have said there is a problem with police and prosecutors.c

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

Podcasts are one sided and misleading.

[@iMatti00]

@@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094 - Are you aware that multiple judges at multiple levels have a greed with many substantial pieces of information that have come out that never would’ve been exposed if not for the Podcasts?

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

@@iMatti00 The only thing those podcasts proved is that women shouldn't vote.

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

@@iMatti00 Given the opportunity, women will *choose* to believe whatever scenario seems more poetic. You have no business voting or sitting on juries.

[@jeremiahduran7238]

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