Very interesting interview to Adolph "Bud" Herseth, legendary Chicago Symphony Orchestra trumpeter, on the occasion of his retirement. Aired: 14/04/2013 Edited: PBS
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@jduff595 жыл бұрын
Bud will be remembered in 100 years as the leader of perhaps the finest brass section in the history of the symphony orchestra.
@gregoryronnback27564 жыл бұрын
Yup. No doubt. It will never happen again. I've heard them and many other orchestras of great repute. No doubt. EPIC. It'll never happen again.
@schwei564 жыл бұрын
What this suggests to this music lover is that there has been the passing of an age during which such artistry reached a zenith of popularity, similar to the age of the big bands of the mid-20th century, the giants of Rock and Country, etc. But this is not to say that a talent equal to Herseth is not out there-it simply will not have the same opportunity to flourish. Times change.
@robinblankenship923411 ай бұрын
No probably about it. Just plainly the best.
@bd184510 ай бұрын
I guess I would say this being from the UK but the London symphony with Maurice Murphy for me takes some beating. John Williams used that orchestra for Star Wars, Indiana Jones etc. That said, Herseth one of the greatest trumpeters who has ever lived.
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@phillipecook32274 жыл бұрын
To hold down the principal trumpet position of ANY professional symphony orchestra for 50 years is absolutely staggering. To do so with one of the finest orchestras in the world is off the scale. If you hadn't heard him tell the story himself you'd find it hard to believe anyone could audition for a principal trumpet position and not actually be aware of it.
@yishihara555277 күн бұрын
I was lucky to be around that crew back in the day. It's hard for people to comprehend just how elite that brass section was. Absolutely staggering.
@stephenjablonsky1941 Жыл бұрын
Most audience members do not realize how perilous it is to be principal in an orchestra like the CSO. Bud is legendary for heroic efforts in pursuit of perfection.
@dogwoodservicesinc.29727 ай бұрын
Well said. I was watching a KZbin of a major European orchestra performing The Planets with my grandchildren, and as the first chairs performed solos, I told the young people to watch how the person sitting in the second chair might me younger, might be older, but they were usually reading the score during the solo and were usually itching to perform that solo. For Bud to maintain that position that long at Chicago? Wow.
@markusrose970Ай бұрын
It is for every Trumpet player. Ive been Principal in several Orchestras as an amateur and its perilous in every level. it was for me on my level like it is for an Pro on his level
@mgheroy3 жыл бұрын
After grad school, I was playing euphonium in John Paynter's North Shore band in Wilmette when one of the trombone players asked if I would be interested in playing in a brass ensemble on Easter Sunday at a church in the western suburbs. I said I'd be happy to, and he said that it should be "ok," even though it was not a regular ensemble. When I arrived, imagine my surprise when Bud Herseth, the perennial principal trumpet in the CSO, sat down in the group! For this economics major from Michigan, it was your basic once in a lifetime event. I don't think I have ever sat up that straight in the almost 50 years since! Oh, and the gig was indeed "ok"...
@roetjer Жыл бұрын
I met this man at Luther College in the summer of 2005, his warmth and his ability as a trumpeter gave me the desire to follow in his footsteps. I went to his alma mater, Luther College as a trumpet music performance major and although I changed my major and my professional path I will always be thankful for him, his music, and the impact he had on my life. Rest in piece
@dogwoodservicesinc.29727 ай бұрын
What an amazing man. Truly a great in every sense of the word.
@evalex716 жыл бұрын
He defined the sound of the brass section, no question. Listen to the album "The Antiphonal Music of Gabrieli", with Chicago, Philly and Cleveland musicians and you hear Herseth's absolute brilliance
@triangularplanet24246 жыл бұрын
Actually, by all accounts of people who were in the orchestra, Jacobs and Herseth together defined the sound of the brass section.
@evalex716 жыл бұрын
Yes, I didn't mean to discount the incredible work of Jacobs on tuba or any of the other fine musicians there. The Chicago brass sound really was something special
@bevaconme3 жыл бұрын
you know that score card the producer put on the back of the gabrieli album so the listener could identify who is playing on which cuts? you don't need it.
@bevaconme3 жыл бұрын
@@triangularplanet2424 right. but in a cso interview about jacobs, gene pokorny told the story of jake being asked when the orchestra acquired its nonpareil sound and answering, "the day bud herseth came to work."
@rmo52 Жыл бұрын
That album, in my view, made brass history. I nearly wore my copy out. What greatness.
@allwinds37863 жыл бұрын
Bud was a very nice guy. I met him several times at Schilke's on Wabash in Chicago.
@wythetrumpet64196 жыл бұрын
Bud Herseth was such a wonderful trumpet player and gentleman! I would say Bud has influenced more orchestral trumpet players than any other musician in the world! His sound shaped the CSO brass section. Bud had such an ability to soar out over the orchestra, unlike any other. He was also such a wonderful human being and kind man. He is certainly missed but that great trumpet sound will live on.
@triangularplanet24246 жыл бұрын
He was also a tyrant and played childish games with his section.
@nottommy10025 жыл бұрын
@@triangularplanet2424 if a man is this good at orchestral trumpet, hes allowed to
@explodingsausage65762 жыл бұрын
@@nottommy1002 Nope, that's not how it works. Bud was a great player, no question, but also a bastard who treated lots of folks like garbage.
@4351steve4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of stories about Bud and his “band.” Bud is one of handful of players that is always in any knowledgeable trumpet players list of best players. His sound has and will influence players for as long as we continue to blow on the brass tube.
@Muzakman3711 ай бұрын
That fabulous soaring vib, always perfectly judged on a line, is a sound you just don't forget as a brass player. I'm sure every brass player reading this and knowing Bud's artistry can hear it as they read this.
@WillStephensArt3 ай бұрын
He is so loved what an honor and amazingly fulfilling Buds life was
@matts90643 жыл бұрын
The greatest principal trumpeter ever. No debate.
@bordaz13 жыл бұрын
No debate? What qualities of his playing place his performance beyond debate?
@bd1845 Жыл бұрын
Maurice Murphy of the LSO is up there definitely
@shophar3 жыл бұрын
The Greatest! Thank you Mr, Herseth. 👍🏾🎺❤️
@welintomgabriel55466 жыл бұрын
Legend! !Best sound ever!!
@leeadams55446 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@stevenj997010 ай бұрын
Thx Bud. I will always cherish and miss our intermission pipe/cigarettes breaks in front of orchestra hall during rehearsals.
@giovannibartolotta51802 жыл бұрын
Unique artist and unique MAN
@THall-vi8cp4 жыл бұрын
I love how when Bud is playing with Doc he is using a C trumpet, but it doesn't sound like it at all. Just a big, fat sound like a B flat.
@jaegertiger3844 жыл бұрын
Tells you how the Bach Strad has the iconic orchestral sound... whether Bb or C.
@user-rn1lb8sx2c4 жыл бұрын
Legend
@vincentdesiano48615 жыл бұрын
Great musician...great man! RSP
@vincentdesiano48615 жыл бұрын
Correction: RIP
@Balmung1154 жыл бұрын
7:04 - 7:15 - Classic!
@stevenj997010 ай бұрын
Bud. Always untouchable
@mikesharkey6 Жыл бұрын
The best there ever was
@DD0DD2631 Жыл бұрын
"Never practice; Always perform." Adolf "Bud" Herseth
@bd184510 ай бұрын
Wrong sorry… it was Maurice Andre whom said that.
@DD0DD263110 ай бұрын
@@bd1845 Thank you. It’s a good one.
@trainliker1008 ай бұрын
@@bd1845 Adolph Herseth said it many, many times.
@phillbilly4946 жыл бұрын
nice
@stepaushi3 жыл бұрын
6:14 WHY is the interviewer so surprised and confused that Herseth was influenced by singers?
@user-wb5bx7tg5k3 жыл бұрын
He's a respectable trumpet player.
@swaglord59093 жыл бұрын
@@billbryant1288 if you trying to say that herseth is the goat... he is not
@swaglord59093 жыл бұрын
@@billbryant1288 idk know man that haydn concerto was pretty bad
@deezashmeeza30623 жыл бұрын
@@swaglord5909 lmao i was thinking it didnt sound so great, but thats probably the recording quality
@michaelrandall903410 ай бұрын
Yeah, you must be one badass to critique this man. Of course I am not falling for it. GFY!
@freeqwerqwer3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered who this Mahler trumpeter is.
@jefolson69892 жыл бұрын
The CSO was his first and only job.
@smctrout442310 ай бұрын
I heard a story about Fritz Reiner making Herseth repeat a passage (opening solo in Mahler 5?) several times and addressing him as "Mr. Trumpet." Finally Herseth had enough and repeated the passage several times, taking it up to a higher key each time. When he stopped, he said, "My name is Adolph Herseth, and I can do this all day." Is this a myth, and if it is true, can someone fill in the details?
@trainliker1008 ай бұрын
There was a true story something like that the Herseth himself would tell. He said Reiner liked to test the musicians. I forget the orchestral piece, but the trumpet goes "dit dit dah DAHHHHH" very quickly where the first three notes are C and the last is a jump up to high C and held. Reiner came up with excuses to have Herseth repeat the passage over and over and Herseth never missed. Herseth said everybody knew what Reiner was doing. And that after six or seven times he says Reiner said, "Can we do that again?" And Herseth says, "I looked at my watch and said I'm here until 12:30." Herseth said Reiner then left him alone.
@smctrout44238 ай бұрын
@@trainliker100 could be a trumpet excerpt from "Also Sprach Zarathustra."
@trainliker1008 ай бұрын
@@smctrout4423 No. Not that. The orchestra plays for quite a while and then the flutes have a sort of fluttering line that gets softer and softer and softer and suddenly the trumpet comes in big and bold with those four notes.
@hectorberlioz14496 ай бұрын
@@trainliker100 it is for sure ' zarathustra'. The high C octave appears in the middle of the piece after around 20 min.
@trainliker1006 ай бұрын
@@hectorberlioz1449 You are correct. I was wrong when I said, "No. Not that." You are correct. Thanks for confirming it.
@realmrkrabs2 ай бұрын
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@realmrkrabs2 ай бұрын
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@trombonecoach3 жыл бұрын
This interview is so “cringe”, as they say, but at least it shows the humanity of the man, if not highlighting his greatest career accomplishments. It’s impossible to measure the impact that he had on the entire brass (not just the trumpet) community with his sound and musicianship. One of the most remarkable things to me was his relative lack (by today’s social media standards) of ego. Of course, he was a massive star in the brass world at the time, but he spent the entire interview talking about the people around him that shaped his personal and musical life, instead of himself. How times have changed 180 degrees from the people that we now make “famous”.
@jauch06 жыл бұрын
Can somebody give me any information on the guy doing the interview? Herseth refers to him as a fellow trumpet player. All of his questions revealed a knowledge of the trumpet and music in general that most people wouldn't expect from a general assignment reporter.
@alvinfernandez43516 жыл бұрын
i think he is Ryan Anthony
@donovanklutho57206 жыл бұрын
His name is Phil Ponce, it shows it at the beginning of the clip. I can't find any information about whether he had any career as a trumpeter, but he is/was a journalist.
@classicalytrumpet91904 жыл бұрын
Donovan Klutho he played trumpet on the side more as an interest
@bordaz13 жыл бұрын
Yes Phil Ponce; he did this kind of journalism on WTTW Chicago for a long time. The great thing about Solti and his time with the CSO was the fame his recordings, tours, and relationship with the media brought to the group. This really endeared the orchestra to an otherwise embittered local news media. I doubt Ricardo Muti, or anyone, can have the same relationship anymore. The landscape is more indifferent.
@triangularplanet24246 жыл бұрын
I love Herseth's playing, but can somebody explain to me this mythologizing of him? He was a great player but he wasn't THAT much better than other people around in his era like Bernard Adelstein and Gilbert Johnson and many modern players certainly had as big (or bigger) a sound as him and could sing on the instrument as well as him--Schlueter, Kaderabek, Mike Sachs, Ryan Anthony, Tom Stevens, Manny Laureno, Tom Rolfs, Vosburgh, Andy Balio, Phil Collins, etc. But it is always he who is singled out as the greatest. I guess I don't hear much of a qualitative difference between him and others mentioned.
@57dogsbody6 жыл бұрын
Two things I think.1: His longevity, he really did play at a very high level for a very long time. 2: He was a big character and took no shit from any conductor. People love that kind of thing, and those stories get exaggerated in the telling.
@Funkadelic35 жыл бұрын
It was his Influence, sound, and approach to playing which was very different from those that came before him. Bud learned a great deal from George Mager in Boston and took that approach and ran with it. If you listen to most orchestral recordings prior to Bud the approach is night and day. Very different concept of sound. Bud also helped with the inclusion of the C Trumpet as a popular instrument in American orchestral playing, which now every orchestra in the country uses almost exclusively. Without Bud we very well may not have ever heard of many of the names you mentioned as well as many other trumpet players outside of the orchestral world. He was very much so copied but can never be duplicated. Many people picked up the trumpet and/or started getting Into classical music because of this man. May he rest in peace.
@nicholasfox9665 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting and fair question. There are lots of cases in the arts where one person seems to stand out in their generation in terms of fame and influence, even as many of their colleagues and contemporaries were just as able and gifted. I think in Herseth's case, it's two things: his longevity as a great player, and a certain "super-human" quality to his playing, especially in his prime. The latter quality really did define the CSO brass section (and by extension, the orchestra) in a way that Johnson, Adelstein, and others did not and do not for their orchestras. Gilbert Johnson's way with a lyrical solo was unforgettable, but it would be hard to say that Johnson's playing DEFINED the sound of the Philly Orchestra in the way that Herseth's clarion and powerful style seemed to signify the very personality of the CSO for so long. These were all magnificent players, and playing a game of "Who was the greatest" is ultimately a matter of personal taste. For me, it was Herseth's centrality to the CSO style that made him stand out.
@andrewbalio23815 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, its beyond flattering to be included on such a list, Mr Triangular Planet. However, I could add a few thoughts here. Herseth was indeed a trailblazer who blended the best characteristics from both of his idols, the lyrical finesse of George Mager and the powerhouse balls of Harry Glantz. He told me in lessons that whenever he was struggling with something during his "green" years of CSO tenure, he whipped out an NBC Symphony record with Toscanini so he could get the sound of Harry Glantz back in his ear. As he said, during WWII, he played big band for the US Navy, which required a relatively new level of athleticism of the lead trumpet, previously unknown in music making. Because Bud brought all those elements together in to one player so effectively, he became an incredible model for everyone else that you named that allowed us to emulate and build upon that example. The other thing that made Bud develop was the other players around him like Jacobs, Farkas, Geyer, Friedman, and Crissafulli, who's ringing and singing approach reinforced one another. Great players around us on stage bring us up. The other players in that generation you mentioned didn't really have the same team support around them, IMHO. So, he, like Maurice Andre, was the first to play at such a previously unimagined level, allowing everyone else a head start on their own progress.
@419nigerianprincess85 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you're saying
@maestroclassico58014 жыл бұрын
He does seem so much of a gentleman here but I had heard stories over the years of how arrogant and condescending he was. I had heard that the real reason that he quit teaching was because he didn't want to "pick up poor habits from his students".
@frankkolton17804 жыл бұрын
Going by what many of fellow musicians and conductors who knew him have said over the years. There is no other musician more dedicated to his instrument, the music, and the orchestra than Mr. Herself was. He could be outspoken, strong willed, and didn't suffer fools. He was dedicated to excellence and expected those around him to play their very best at all times, which rubbed a few of his fellow musicians the wrong way, those that had a more casual attitude toward preparation for of a piece and practice. It is said he never turned down a fellow musician who came to him for help. Many times a trumpeter from another orchestra would fly in for a day or two to go to Mr. Herseth's Oak Park home for some coaching, he said he never charged a dime, it was the duty of older musicians to pass on to the next generation. Arrogant? Perhaps. While he did appreciate the adoration by his fans, he was never about himself, he lived and breathed for the orchestra and music. He was a huge influence on the sound of not only the high brass section, but also on the whole CSO orchestra. He is not the only one of course, there were and are many names within the orchestra that have led and pushed their colleagues to excel. Bud Herseth once said that tradition in the CSO goes back to the days of Frederick Stock.
@SamIAm-kz4hg3 жыл бұрын
@@frankkolton1780 "I had heard stories over the years of how arrogant and condescending he was" I'm reminded of the prima donna singer. If you're going to be in the spotlight, you're going to have to want it. I think it comes with the territory.
@superjonboy8733 жыл бұрын
Many of the Greatest Musicians do not like teaching poor students, and will not do so even though they might be able to make a lot of money doing so. "Arrogant and Condescending" could just as easily be "Dignified and Direct".
@duwir59594 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the interviewer has no idea, when he do not know Fritz Reiner and the Bach strads.
@frankkolton17804 жыл бұрын
Sadly, people jump to conclusions and open their mouths when they have no idea of the facts. Phil Ponce, the interviewer, knows very well who Fritz Reiner was and I would bet a money he knows quite a bit about Bach Strads. Mr. Ponce is extremely intelligent, he has a law degree from the University of Michigan and a journalist degree from Loyola, many awards, and a wide array of personal interests, playing trumpet is one of them. He asks questions not to show off his intelligence, but ones he believes the audience would be interested to know.
@duwir59594 жыл бұрын
@@frankkolton1780 my godness, such a hatred.
@SamIAm-kz4hg3 жыл бұрын
It was quite clear that he knew his stuff, but was trying to lay things out for an audience that might no know.
@duwir59593 жыл бұрын
@@SamIAm-kz4hg laughing
@michaelrandall903410 ай бұрын
Are you a moron? You, duwir.
@danartistpainter25876 жыл бұрын
Great great player.. not a nice man
@loadedbass71116 жыл бұрын
On what accounts? Everyone I know and the CSO guys think opposite especially John and Chris. So where are you basing this on?
@danartistpainter25876 жыл бұрын
Loaded Bass Charlie Geyer Master class given at Kentucky. You can find it on KZbin. Geyer shared the unvarnished truth about how the orchestra worked and how brutal it was to players. Sadly, Geyer did not have good things to share about Mr Herseth. The video is long and in 3 parts. Go to part 3 where Charlie shares what he experienced and saw.
@loadedbass71116 жыл бұрын
George V in conversation had nothing but the highest respects for Bud. Vince retired because his playing was deteriorating. I'm not saying Charlie is lying but he's the only person I know from that era of the orchestra who has stories like that. Even Will Scarlett has given praise.
@triangularplanet24246 жыл бұрын
He said Kaderabek didn't go to Vince's memorial because he knew Bud would be there and he hated Bud. That says a lot, if true.
@loadedbass71116 жыл бұрын
Some One at this point it really doesn't matter because it's hear say. I've talked to a few people who was very close to bud and didn't experience that. Now he very well could have been hot headed in the 40s when he got the job but the bud of our generation is a true hero no matter what people say. They respect the fact that he's the best orchestral trumpet player ever. It's a little disappointing that Charlie would even taint bud like that. Did he tell the students when he forgot his shoes at a concert etc. One person experience shouldn't taint his whole legacy.