Fantastic, haha. Retro computers are so odd. I've had C64s that visually appear brand new that had way worse problems!
@DEMENTO016 жыл бұрын
Same but with late 90s tech haha (love your videos btw)
@retroretiree20866 жыл бұрын
My theory on those type of machines that look brand new but not working, is because they never worked properly so languished in their boxes unused!
@RodrigoBadin6 жыл бұрын
Retro computers are like wine, the old the better.
@michaelkessler38136 жыл бұрын
Looks can really be deceiving in life. You never know what your gonna get with something from its appearance, and I guess this video and your comment prove that.
@Italodancer6 жыл бұрын
@@retroretiree2086 Yes true and also how they stored. But the real funny thing is that for me these retro 80s technology and older works. I just connected and old videocamera from 1996, wanted to digitalize and burn to DVD some HI8 tapes. Yeh it worked to do that I was very afraid for the belts because it has been totally unused for more than 10 years! But then I turned on the camera mode. Picture totally black, wtf 😕 It means that some electronic gone bad in time degrading. But still happy all my tapes regardless if its music or video still works very good. But then I have some DVD-R thats only 10-15 years totally damaged. Everything is stored inside my house and in same space 😨
@ian_b5 жыл бұрын
Ants: "Our modernist mansion is gone forever!"
@shawbros5 жыл бұрын
You have to feel sorry for the ants.
@MultiTomtom235 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were currently in the process of calculating their way to the moon... I mean ants in a c64... I don't think the moved in there unintentionally 🤣 I even would go so far to speculate they were freemasons.. 😜😂
@anrriveradxndsigamer14954 жыл бұрын
me: *gives the ants a c64c case with carboard inside*
@juventusventuno92132 жыл бұрын
not many ants can say 'Born and raised in a C-64, baby!'
@Bromon655 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@museonfilm89196 жыл бұрын
In a post apocolyptic world - we'll be okay with 8 bit music - that's good to know!
@busybiscy6 жыл бұрын
The c64 isnt a fucking cockroach
@GuardianWorld5 жыл бұрын
@@busybiscy It can survive 10 years of nature, MIGHT AS WELL SURVIVE A NUKE!
@peterlamont6475 жыл бұрын
Ya, the c64 is the ak-47 of computing...and the Swiss army knife. Just saying.
@hotcoregaming99025 жыл бұрын
So nothing will really change... we will all hole up with a computer and eat Twinkies. I thought it'd be grimmer.
@joescofield86525 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha gold
@collectivesartori6 жыл бұрын
“We have flashing cursor”. Absolutely gold moment.
@kduuutdschbonnbock54715 жыл бұрын
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@Sinistar19835 жыл бұрын
64 likes
@BASSstarlet4 жыл бұрын
I still remember how excited it was the moving cursor in my Spectrum, the first time connected to tv set!
@ShamblerDK5 жыл бұрын
When you showed the inside of that thing, I was expecting a lot of fixing and a multiple video series before we'd see any kind of life. I am baffled.
@RedstoneMiner182 жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@KThxsBy6 жыл бұрын
Ebay listing status before restoration, 'Acceptable'
@maicod6 жыл бұрын
new Ebay status: Ant's Home
@jonvincentmusic6 жыл бұрын
'Barn find'
@101Volts6 жыл бұрын
Forget "Barn Find," I want to see "Pond Find" like when I dreamed of finding a NES in a pond in 2003/2004.
@s1nRG6 жыл бұрын
"Like new"
@johnsouthern60896 жыл бұрын
WORKING
@metelicgunz1466 жыл бұрын
30 year old computer that was left outside for 10 years works when my motherboard is shipped dead.
@tct726 жыл бұрын
@War Zone It was likely the developer for ET that made the board.
@williamb33236 жыл бұрын
How true.
@ReinoudVanBeek6 жыл бұрын
So true
@byjohnson76596 жыл бұрын
Sad but true. I live a few miles away from the former HQ of CBM. Companies used to make products robust and designed to last, back in the day. Now we get cheaply made to replace stuff to keep that $$ engine running.
@sarahhess4646 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the people hooked up the old electric parts directly to a power line to see them explode and pop and something people used to use old radio parts for.
@QuantumRift6 жыл бұрын
It's good to know that resurrected C64's will be able to rebuild humanity after Armageddon.
@kenbee19576 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisNova7776 жыл бұрын
lol
@MiettedeThonTomate6 жыл бұрын
This tiny one will do. Can't you see he's a survivor where you probably get sick in less a week lol? YAY!
@kaylubproductions45176 жыл бұрын
Well in fallout the computers are pretty much Commodore 64 with the look of a Commodore PET
@rafalk425 жыл бұрын
I just love that poor, lost ant on the VIC chip (from about 2:20), trying to figure out what the hell happened to his/her mansion.
@TheRainblossoms4 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's fantastic
@metatechnologist4 жыл бұрын
He escaped and made a brand new home in Asrian's basement.
@scottson24 жыл бұрын
Once that machine goes on for a few minutes that VIC chip is going to get HOT! I have heatsinks on my own personal C64s i have repaired...
@chitlitlah Жыл бұрын
I did not see that at first. She's definitely a her though.
@Orbit_Corona6 жыл бұрын
Just listen to that C-64 sing. She's ready for a marathon of Beach Head, Raid Over Moscow, Maniac Mansion, and so much more!
@allencasaletto35295 жыл бұрын
You can't hurt meeeee!
@power20845 жыл бұрын
Let's play M.U.L.E. on it !!
@matthewhapp86885 жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah Ready Player one
@JackBealeGuitar6 жыл бұрын
Spend £1000 on an iphone, the screen cracks if you sneeze near it, leave a C64 in a field and have ants move in, absolutely fine
@RetroMarkyRM6 жыл бұрын
hahaha.
@BilisNegra6 жыл бұрын
Well, not so much as ABSOLUTELY fine, but yeah, booted fine from the start.
@Thematt116 жыл бұрын
That's because older tech firms had something akin to a code of ethics that stated that if you were going to spend a few months wages on a machine that could cost more than a decent secondhand car then add to it a ton of peripherals and consumables you should be able to rely on it to continue working through a little bit of abuse.
@proxy10356 жыл бұрын
then again, technology is al ot denser and uses lower voltages nowerdays so while it is more compact it is also less resistant to outside forces. which makes sense
@eduardoavila6466 жыл бұрын
Old technology was way more resistant, woth bigger and simpler components
@chrisscott79906 жыл бұрын
This was back when having a few bugs wasn't a problem
@pwnmeisterage6 жыл бұрын
That ant wandering around from pin to pin on the top of the CPU isn't moving aimlessly, he's actually helping to carry bits around, that's why this machine still works.
@kenbee19576 жыл бұрын
Ba dum tss?
@kenbee19576 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage Lol!
@quantumbubbles21066 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage ant colony = turbo mode! 😎
@EmeraldEyesEsoteric6 жыл бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage Great, now I want to design a computer with a built in ant colony that runs on ant power.
@anominalwill55996 жыл бұрын
When I was 11, my family moved into a trailer with piles of old junk sitting outside, exposed to the elements for no telling how long. Among the junk was an NES with no AC adapter or RF, just the console itself, but with 2 games also in the junk. My brother and I took it inside and let it dry out for a couple days, then we made a makeshift video out line with an old power cord, and plugged it in with a universal AC adapter with manual voltage/amperage settings. Turned it on, and BAM! House burned down. Not really, it worked perfectly! Only problem: no controllers. So we ended up splicing up an old Sega Genesis controller to see if we could get it to work on the NES. After a couple hours of trial and error, we managed to get a response with the A button, but we lacked the know how to get the controller fully operational. Still an interesting project for a couple of little kids in our early years of tinkering, and about a month later, we did eventually pick up some controllers from a yard sale.
@abyssstrider25476 жыл бұрын
How old are you now though?
@anominalwill55996 жыл бұрын
@@abyssstrider2547 Why would that matter?
@abyssstrider25476 жыл бұрын
@@anominalwill5599 Just curious. I mean I just wondered about how old was the Nintendo when you found it, for example if it stood there for x amount of years or how much years has it gone through to be undamaged is what kinda makes me wonder. And which year was it that two 11 year olds could assemble an electronic device. Kids today probably couldn't do it so that's what piqued my interest.
@anominalwill55996 жыл бұрын
@@abyssstrider2547 This was in July 1997, I had just turned 11 in June, and my brother turned 12 in April. I would estimate the NES had been left outside for at least a year. Fortunately, it was elevated off the ground (sitting on a rotting dresser at the side of the trailer), so it wasn't exposed to much dirt, but it was full of rain water and pretty rusted on the inside.
@abyssstrider25476 жыл бұрын
@@anominalwill5599 Oh that's interesting. Someone just threw out a two year old working console? That sounds like a waste.
@bobraible6 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories. I designed chips for later versions of c64, but more of my work was on Amiga. Good stuff.
@gregorymalchuk2725 жыл бұрын
Tell us about the chips you designed and your times at the company! We would love to hear about it!
@jaakkohaakana77654 жыл бұрын
Please write a memoir.
@bobraible4 жыл бұрын
@@jaakkohaakana7765 Good Lord, no. My memory is getting pretty spotty. If you have any specific questions I'll try to answer to the best of my ability. I assume that you have seen Dave Haynie's presentations on YT. I arrived on the scene as the C64 was ramping up into mass production. Very shortly afterward Bob Welland and Al Charpentier left the company (basically the creators of the C64). CBM was primarily using NMOS technology for their PCs and I was hired (I think) mostly because I had done CMOS at Texas Instruments , which is a direction that CBM wanted to follow. I also knew NMOS from my first job. At that time the C64 board was loaded with TTL (small mass market jellybean chips). Due to a screw-up by a higher up at CBM we had no long term contracts for TTTL parts (CBM played the TTL spot market to save a few pennies). As luck would have it there became a terrible shortage of TTL parts in the marketplace. So I (and a few others as I recall) were asked to make pin for pin compatible replacements for the missing TTL parts. For various technical reasons that I won't get into NMOS was a terrible choice to do a pin for pin replacement of a TTL chip. To make a long story short(er) The new NMOS parts were made, the C64 production continued unimpeded. Not too long afterward the C64 cost reduction efforts were underway, and most of that TTL and other small chips were combined into larger, more integrated chips. Yay! PS: from your name I am thinking that u r from Finland? I am a avid reader of WWII history and have read about the winter war and the continuation war.
@worldoftimelapse14803 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@bobraible3 жыл бұрын
@@worldoftimelapse1480 you are welcome.
@agypsycircle5 жыл бұрын
Oh my heart hurts seeing it in the initial condition! This was the first computer I ever had!
@vatrenikrug5 жыл бұрын
the years of zx apectrum and comoder64.. my first was amiga500 omg,what a mashine,i was thinking what could be posible :D just they dont build this day things to last,i think we must make our own open source hardvere and our internet places that will work eternity with it :D not to become absolyt
@normanroscher75455 жыл бұрын
My first one was a 486 PC, but that was our family PC. My first own computer was an Atari 520 ST (which was already old back then), from the first series of 1985: You still had to boot it from a TOS floppy disc. The 520 soon got the OS on ROM chips, too, as the 1040 had it from the beginning. But mine was made before that.
@tanathos04146 жыл бұрын
Deserves a full restoration.
@dennisp.21476 жыл бұрын
Nah. Those corroded traces are a ticking time bomb. Finding the functional SID is a $50 bonus though.
@danielmantione6 жыл бұрын
Ask Drygol for some advice ;) www.retrohax.net/extreme-refurbishing-series-episode-1-commodore-64/ www.retrohax.net/extreme-refurbishing-episode-2-atari-800-xl-part-one/
@area85restorations756 жыл бұрын
@@adriansdigitalbasement clean it up with electrical contact cleaner and carefully brush clear coat over the PCB to prevent further oxidation, the case didnt look that bad either!!
@thepenultimateninja57976 жыл бұрын
@@area85restorations75 I agree - no reason why those corroded traces should shorten the life of the machine. As long as the corrosion is stopped and the traces are protected with conformal coating, that machine could keep going for decades.
@area85restorations756 жыл бұрын
@@thepenultimateninja5797 I agree!!, a thinner trace might run hotter, but it's worth a shot in my opinion!!
@ei96byod6 жыл бұрын
That machine should be put on display as it is in some sort of museum. That's astonishing!
@amirpourghoureiyan16376 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right next to the Gameboy that survived a bombing raid in Iraq
@2nmingo6 жыл бұрын
for real it deserves at least that much
@Phoenixesper16 жыл бұрын
3:04 after having it's home ripped apart, drowned with a garden hose, boiled in pure alcohol and then electrocuted, one lone ant has survived and stands triumphantly on the processor above the ruined landscape of it's once lush verdant homeland with sadness and hatred. Behold the ant god! Herculant! Xenant warrior antcess! It shall claim vengance against you Mr black!
@DrachenKaiser6 жыл бұрын
lol. you are right, I not notice it until you.
@wings4victory6 жыл бұрын
I see it too !
@xombzz6 жыл бұрын
Where is it?
@10player6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@dlib896 жыл бұрын
OMFG It survived! For those who didnt seen, it is on top of the chip from center-right. Inside the white square on the board. You can see it moving on top of it since 2:45
@larsmuldjord99075 жыл бұрын
I've rewatched this video several times now over the course of the last year. I think it's my favorite retro restoration video on KZbin. It makes me so happy to watch it! Thank you!
@-Mohog3 жыл бұрын
It's not retro, it's original, it's vintage. Retro doesn't mean old, it means new imitating old.
@cosmicavatar773 Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the coolest restorations of vintage tech. The fact that this still works is amazing.
@dicrylium-28686 жыл бұрын
10:10 I got goosebumps when the 64 started singing.
@lallepop2k6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Absolutely beautiful!
@heraldichunter256 жыл бұрын
What is that music from I’m super into it
@lallepop2k6 жыл бұрын
@@heraldichunter25 Ode to 64 - Søren Lund
@aaronwilkinson74776 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Tallefer6 жыл бұрын
Those were the Retro Keeper Ants! The rare kind. They were keeping the essential parts of hardware in working condition for the whole time! You should've caught their queen and let it breed for moneys. :D
@SarpErsoy6 жыл бұрын
:D
@theworldoverheavan5606 жыл бұрын
Lol
@devankaladharan25635 жыл бұрын
one drop of water killed my macbook ,just a drop .
@burn0u715 жыл бұрын
still trying to figure out why that is so surprising to you. good luck getting that fixed. Crapple will probly tell you it is unfixable when all you have to do is replace a few components but crapple wont supply a lot of the parts to repair centers. take a look at this youtube channel kzbin.info/door/l2mFZoRqjw_ELax4Yisf6w that guy pretty much only fixes crapple macbooks.
@rockytom58895 жыл бұрын
@FRIENDLY JAPANESE BUSINESSMAN Nah,he's a realist.
@woodiemarv5 жыл бұрын
Difference between powered on versus powered off
@BixbyConsequence5 жыл бұрын
You didn't try using a garden hose to fix it?
@Gerardus19705 жыл бұрын
Crapple don't care, they plan in obsolescence. You probably went and bought another anyway ;-)
@jooch_exe6 жыл бұрын
2:27 One ant refuses to leave his beloved MOS
@pwnmeisterage6 жыл бұрын
C64 is a legacy from a lost age ... when companies built tech, not fashion.
@venturestar5 жыл бұрын
100% Agreed
@SlavTiger5 жыл бұрын
@JonsReef you need to learn the difference between silicone and silicon.
@SlavTiger5 жыл бұрын
@JonsReef two different materials. One is an insulation the other an element.
@johncenaplayingstarcraft95805 жыл бұрын
@JonsReef silicon and metal get more unstable as it gets smaller.
@codeoptimizationware28035 жыл бұрын
@P: "C64 is a legacy from a lost age ... when companies built tech, not fashion." Oh, how I miss those tech days so much that it hurts. Meanwhile all this fashion (e.g., pretense toward) is always on the verge of making me vomit, constantly and excessively at that!
@awesomenokes6 жыл бұрын
Finds a rusty old C64 and the SID chip works. I buy a very well kept C64 and the SID fails. Life ain't fair
@agrimm616 жыл бұрын
Take a look at the fuse mentioned in the video. Its only purpose is to protect the SID, which won't work, if it's broken, even if the C64 is still booting.
@VriendP16 жыл бұрын
and if it won't work after replacing the fuse, let it recover in a field for a while.
@Mosfet5106 жыл бұрын
Kyle Nokes If I get around to checking an old c64 I found and it doesn't work I may have a SID chip for you. I'd remove it so it gets a 2nd life lol.
@marcbeaumont626 жыл бұрын
I resurected some old Silicon Graphics machines once that had sat outside, in the UK, for 5 years. The O2 machines were rusty but worked and the Octanes had a few issues but they all mostly worked apart from some bad memory chips. Still amazes me. BTW, it was snowing when I recovered them. A rather surreal moment recovering machines that cost around £10,000 originaly from a scrap pile in the snow.
@spitfeueranna6 жыл бұрын
That's wild. Those are some complex machines inside.
@simontay48516 жыл бұрын
That is unbelievable. How that still working! My mouth is wide open. I have no words. At the start of the video i was sure it didnt have a chance in hell of working and that the on/off switch would be rusted solid. Carefully fully cleaning the board properly is going to take hours.
@khx736 жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe it turned on the first time. I was thinking "No way... it's gonna go up in smoke" .
@MrPCSniperFi4 жыл бұрын
Just hearing that thing sing made me shed a tear, Adrian. Old technology always felt like a tank. This proves it!!
@christopheporteneuvepro4 жыл бұрын
And in 2020, a single teaspill on my laptop's keyboard killed it. Mad props to Commodore
@nikolaiownz5 жыл бұрын
Man that music is just so fantastic.
@timsquirrel Жыл бұрын
Oh yes. I do agree! I love anything that comes out of the 6581 or 8580 SID chip. A legend of a microchip!
@Biffo12626 жыл бұрын
I still have my C64 full set still boxed in my cellar. I also have a bunch of games. This has motivated me to dig it out for my grandchildren. I have an Amiga too also full set and boxed.
@AmigaA-or2hj6 жыл бұрын
I’m still using my Amiga.
@xofyerg98326 жыл бұрын
Don't.. Our current generation will not be grateful.. Not saying your Grand kids aren't buut.. Itll be sad if they disappoint you
@SuperGiantGeckosLLC6 жыл бұрын
Collecovision
@MaxmadV86 жыл бұрын
Please keep them boxes and nice it's a great piece of history. It would be good to get them out fo your grandchildren. See what there take on it is. I'm sure you got alot of fun out the f it at one time.
@pandahsykes6026 жыл бұрын
Steven Booth Amiga is legit the best . So many great Amiga games like It Came From The Desert with better gameplay than AAA games nowadays. Definitely keep that or give it to a loved one .
@TrehanCreekOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Inside a shed I was paid to disassemble today, I found a Commodore 64 system, including the computer itself, a joystick, a cassette tape drive, and assorted cords. The shed had been damaged by a fallen tree limb and water had been entering the shed for many years. The styrofoam packing around the unit was literally falling apart. There were roaches, ants, lizards, and all sorts of bugs everywhere in, on, and around the equipment. While incredibly dirty, all of the system components appear to be original. As a 67 year old guy, who previously had training in computer repair and who operated a small computer repair business way back in time, I watched and learned about computers as they developed, including programming them. I turned to your video tonight for inspiration and to instill some hope that my shed find can also be resurrected from the dead. I expect to find large amounts of rust, trash, and who knows what inside but maybe...just maybe...my find can also be salvaged. Boy that will be a hoot to see! I'll definitely video the process as you did and may need some help with a question or two from you, if you would be kind enough to share the benefit of your wisdom with the Commodore 64. I did most of my early work on Radio Shack TRS 80 systems, not Commodores, so I am less familiar with them. Great video, BTW! Thanks for sharing it.
@PrincePolaris2 жыл бұрын
How did it go with the C64?
@TrehanCreekOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
@@PrincePolaris Things move slowly in my world because of health issues that keep my spare time very limited.. I've still got the C64 and do intend to tackle the job of troubleshooting it, probably during this winter. As promised, I will video the entire process. Be sure to subscribe so you can be notified when I post it. It will probably go on a new channel that I have called Trehan Creek Pickers. But I may post it here too. Really hope to resurrect it. Would be a hoot to see it operate once again.
@PrincePolaris2 жыл бұрын
@@TrehanCreekOutdoors Sounds like fun! And I know what you mean, around here everything is simultaneously moving too fast and too slow all at once...
@CityXen4 ай бұрын
Love this video, watched it when it first came out with my friend Brian. We were watching it on TV, so there wasn't really a way to comment. Just wanted to drop in and tell you this, as we consider you as inspiration for us starting to make our vids. Cheers Adrian. You rock!
@chrisamadeus46475 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I have watched this video, it still amazes and pleases me so much. Great work carried out to a legendary computer.
@samio39076 жыл бұрын
jeez that was a dirty c64! :D now fully derust it and restore all the parts. This beast deserves it.
@Lucio70566 жыл бұрын
Manly tears have been shed. Thank You bro.
@SpeakerPolice6 жыл бұрын
This video gives me life. One of my most favorite things is finding old abused equipment and bringing it back to life. I've done this dozens of times with TVs, stereo gear, old radios, etc. and it's always such an awesome feeling to see it come back to life after so long. The last one I did like this was an old 1990s-era Trinitron PC monitor that had been left outside on an abandoned lot for probably close to the same time as your C64...it was largely the same story inside. It just needed a good scrubbing and everything works, even the high voltage sections! It's still in use on a friend's SLI monitor setup. Let us know if you find any more old, abandoned equipment to rescue...I'd love to see more like this!
@NICEFINENEWROBOT5 жыл бұрын
Ants are good caretakers in micro computers. They have 6 hands for that.
@MonteMusicChannel5 жыл бұрын
Incredible. It's a testament of the build quality the original team put together. While nowadays anything sort of falls apart after a short amount of time, this thing still works after freakin' 38 years !! You did a god job here, thanks ! Chapeau commodore engineers, well done.
@h.celine93036 жыл бұрын
This is a miracle. Commodore/Amiga was the best Computer manufacturer ever. Period.
@rogueplanet77766 жыл бұрын
Had an Amiga 500 and an Amiga 1200 with DeluxePaint IV, a program I used to death. The 1200 was a tank, you couldn’t stop it with bullets.
@erebostd6 жыл бұрын
@@rogueplanet7776 i removed the older board and put a FPGA in my Amiga 1200 , so it can live forever. I love this machine it's so amazing.
@smallmoneysalvia6 жыл бұрын
Incredible. I think that fragile claim comes from old power supplies eating them.
@38911bytefree6 жыл бұрын
They are fragile due to power supplies and also poor heat disipation. When machine (CPU, SID, VIC II and the PLA) is forced to run at its maximun (programmers did miracles), they overheat very bad asnd they three early board revs of the C64 dont have even have the metalshield. The excesive heat end ruining the chips. VIC II is a toaster. You can burn your finger, not joking. It like running your Pentium 1 without heatsink. Later revisions used the shiled that serves as heat disipation and the 64C lowered the auxiliary voltage for SID and VIC from from 12 to 9V. Power disiaption is quadratic. This helped a lot. But it is more. The 1541 was plagged with them issue. Many drives tunr innoperative after an hour or more. Transformer is below the board, so it can heat the electronics, plus its own heat. Ending on missalingments (due to metal expansion) and corrupted data or garbage because ROMS were outside its operating temperature. You let it off for 30 minutes and run like new.
@CommodoreFan646 жыл бұрын
I'll fully backup 38911bytefree Plus I can add the original power supplies of the Breadbin C64's where like little heaters, and in the winter time as a kid I can clearly remember with thick socks on(would burn my feet otherwise) using mine as a foot warmer, and over time some of them would break down, and cause an overvoltage on the 5 volt lines, and back in mid/late 80's a few different 3rd party C64 PSU's came onto the US market that were actually fused, and repairable to fix the overvoltage problems of the original PSUs.
@EngineeringVignettes6 жыл бұрын
@Commodorefan64 - Yeah the plastic power bricks were notorious. The centre ground tap on the internal 5V regulator IC (7805) would open and then the regulator is "floating" so it dumps 12+ volts into the C64, blowing chips. Real crap design. I have one restored machine and I'm leaving it off for now until I build a new PSU for it. Cheers, - Eddy
@jaymartinmobile6 жыл бұрын
To be fair it's not the power supply's fault directly that destroys most of the Commodore 64's. It's owner laziness. The commodore uses a standard 7805 regulator on the 5v line in the epoxy-potted heat-inslated brick supply. Although that is a several no-no's it's not the issue. That 7805 would probably eventually burn out but all that would do is make a dead supply. The problem is that IF you turn off the 120VAC WITHOUT turning off the commodore 64 first, the filter capacitors would force energy backwards down the 5v rail and the 7805 doesn't contain any protection for this. Eventually it will damage the output transistor in the 7805 and it will start letting the 9V rippled DC on the 5V line when turned on (basically a shorted regulator). Surprisingly, most of the MOS chips will take that for quite a while without truly damaging them. It's the RAM chips which have a max voltage of 5.6V that usually popped when this happened. If you put a heavy power supply that could push enough amps to the 5V rail on a damaged c64 you could use your finger to check which RAM chips were hot and replace them to get working again.
@jaymartinmobile6 жыл бұрын
PS it was really common for users to put their computer, monitor, drives etc. on one power strip and just turn it off at that switch, but failing to turn the computer off first can and will eventually damage the 7805.
@FurrySergal6 жыл бұрын
That would be an awesome find in a post-apocalypse.
@maicod6 жыл бұрын
the aliens will think we all died in 1986
@AJB2K36 жыл бұрын
And now the C=64 will appear in Post Apocalypse punk!
@cpufreak1016 жыл бұрын
@@maicod well it's better to restart Society with some computer tech over none
@lucyxchan68086 жыл бұрын
@@cpufreak101the C64 is awesome...its much better than nothing...if there is an apocalypse my only concern About the C64 is...he would burn if there is an EMP Impact...
@devikwolf6 жыл бұрын
C64s are the real-world equivalent of Robco terminals
@Gingerjake25 жыл бұрын
That was purely enjoyable...who could have ever guessed? Thanks for checking it out & sharing with us!
@sakohaji5 жыл бұрын
You exploded a lot of memories for me. more than 35 years ago. I still love it.
@hanniffydinn60196 жыл бұрын
As retro computing fan, this video is the most glorious video I've seen for a long time.
@NTGTechnology6 жыл бұрын
I got an IBM 5170 AT from a guy who lives in a desert. The machine was left outside for well over a decade. It has some rust, a dead power supply, and an insane amount of dirt, but it works fine. I still need to restore it, but I'm shocked that it works.
@NTGTechnology6 жыл бұрын
+SgtPiggie It wasn't just dust it was full on dirt with rocks included. I think the only reason it has survived was because of the lack of water. But it still get some.
@jhutto19846 жыл бұрын
Talk about taking a licking and keeps on ticking! Always fun to see someone get these old units that look like they've been left after the apocalypse and still get them to fire up. :D
@회기-c3wАй бұрын
6 years later and this is still cool.
@PaulStryker2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid we had an Atari 130XE at my parent's house. Time passed by, I moved out to my own house, it's been so many years and I still remember exactly how it felt like playing it, the smell, the joysticks, the 5 1/4 diskettes, it's like I'm right in front of one right now. I'd LOVE to have it again and restore it.
@zaitarh6 жыл бұрын
Poor C64! Must have been horrible for it all those years. Great you saved it! You are truely the mother Theresa of computers! Amazing it still works!
@Randystephenson6 жыл бұрын
legend has it the Commodore is still playing the same demo...
@eg18856 жыл бұрын
I assumed at first you would be replacing a bunch of parts but this was unbelievable.
@UNSCPILOT Жыл бұрын
This makes even the legendarily unstoppable Nokia Brick of a phone look like a chump in comparison, this C-64 is an unkillable Ancient God of computers
@Swenglish Жыл бұрын
Somehow nature and neglect does less damage to a C64 than use.
@dracenmarx5 жыл бұрын
2:50 One ant has survived! It survived spraying water and isopropanole, lol
@CTyler845 жыл бұрын
"What happened to my home!?"
@bierundkippen7205 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@BaneMcDeath4 жыл бұрын
Once you see it you can't help but watch for it for well over a minute.
@davidsault96984 жыл бұрын
It's the C64's ant. What would you expect? laughs
@bigstackD5 жыл бұрын
Dude that is awesome well done 🤘🏻😆🤘🏻
@BedfordLevelExperiment6 жыл бұрын
Live ant on the VIC-II chip at 2:18!
@JohnJones-oy3md6 жыл бұрын
You're back to the classic definition of "debugging" a computer, coined by Grace Hopper (moths in her case). And she was a Commodore to boot. LOL
@38911bytefree6 жыл бұрын
Man use compress air below the chips. Ants can damage this board. Or let the board soak in water for a couple of days. This board is gold IMHO and the last thing you want is an ant preventing to work. DEBUG IT ... (bad joke).
@GLITCH_-.-6 жыл бұрын
That's not a bug. It's a feature.
@lepterfirefall6 жыл бұрын
That ant doesn't want to shift.
@JB525206 жыл бұрын
Robert Schöni VSL - Oh, I heard it was a moth in a relay. I haven't researched it, it's just some story I've heard and always assumed was true.
@yetzt6 жыл бұрын
you can put a sticker on it that says "anthill inside" :D
@danmackintosh63256 жыл бұрын
Why this comment doesn't have more likes defies me...
@sebione35766 жыл бұрын
I don't know you but I love you for that comment.
@patrickbetts55046 жыл бұрын
Amazing! It's a TANK! Sad that just so they can make more money, companies don't want to build stuff as durable today...
@billant26 жыл бұрын
Too bad its power supplies weren't so well built.... had the tendency to short out and blow the main board.
@silvy73946 жыл бұрын
Well I mean some things are quite durable. If I hadnt pushed the VRM on my i5 PC a little too far it would of easily lasted 20 years, if not more without any new parts. Only lasted 9 though because I ran the VRM too hot for too long.
@LesLikesCoins6 жыл бұрын
The Grandpa of computers commming back from the dead after being sat outside for 10+ years.
@MoosesValley5 жыл бұрын
At the start I thought it was hopeless .... but you did it, you brought the old C=64 back from oblivion. This gives me hope for a new form of archaeology .... in the future people could be digging up 50-100+ year old landfills and maybe recover all sorts of great stuff - old consoles, computers, etc. Such rugged hardware back then. Awesome video !!
@BedfordLevelExperiment6 жыл бұрын
The SID chip is actually the socketed chip above the one you're pointing at 8:47, near the IEC port. Those two chips switched positions on that revision of the board.
@BedfordLevelExperiment6 жыл бұрын
And I had actually just learned that from this video that shows every C64 motherboard version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5ubdn93g5Wbq6c
@ralfjung41566 жыл бұрын
Yes, the number is 6581 or the newer in the C64 II is the 8580. POKE 56323,255 :-)
@BedfordLevelExperiment6 жыл бұрын
That POKE changes the data direction register B of CIA #1 from input to output, which causes the keyboard to be unreadable.
@discoHR6 жыл бұрын
That's a perfect example of how computers should be designed. Not like a MacBook Pro which dies if a bug takes a crap on the board.
@discoHR6 жыл бұрын
They made good quality MacBooks 8 years ago. I have 5 year old MBP and it works fine. Apple messed up starting from 2014. See Louis Rossmanns repair videos. Literally, a bug takes a crap on a SMD component and MacBook dies. He just removed the bug, replaced the component and it works fine. Same thing 4 days ago, he just scraped some nasty stuff with tweezers, it works again.
@Caledon916 жыл бұрын
I bought a Macbook in 2009 for college and it worked fine for about two years but then it started to have serious hardware problems just from basic use. The monitor bugged out a few times creating dead pixels and vertical lines which the repair guys said was a bad connection but in typical Apple logic instead of re-soldering connections they said I had to replace the whole $400 display. The CD drive also broke at one point where it got stuck and I couldn't eject the disk. A RAM slot died so I had to run it with half the RAM at one point. And near the end of its life it was having power problems and would often just shut down at the slightest bump (I never found out what was causing it because I was done with fixing it.) Thankfully the AppleCare plan kept me from spending hundreds of dollars fixing the thing but after that expired I just sold the Macbook as parts, that was in 2013. I'm not a big manhandler with my electronics and I never dropped it or got water in it but owning it and dealing with all of it's random faults was a nightmare. That was the first Apple computer I have ever owned and it was also my last. I switched back to Windows computers and never looked back. Of course all the other computers I own or have owned weren't without their own problems but they were much easier and cheaper to repair and maintain. Maybe I just ended up with the problem child from an otherwise good line of computers but as far as I'm concerned Apple has been making junk as far back as 2009.
@onlineamiga6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking whilst watching this.. in 20 years time, I very much doubt we'll ever see someone finding an iphone 5 thats been left out in hte cold and it still works. Old computers have so much space between circuit lines and thick circuit lines too. A modern device have everything so crammed in to fractions of milimeters, that one spec of rust and you break a circuit.
@maurofoti5266 жыл бұрын
discoHR what most people don't realize is that it's obvious that older computer are more resistant to corrosion, environment and time. When technology goes on, the circuit become smaller, the connectors become more fragile and the voltages reduce, so the same voltage degradation that make a C64 survive would kill a new cpu. Look at that rusty chip: some sandpaper and it's as good as new, if you even bend a pin of a modern CPU the socket won't work. Bur that's the tradeoff for 5000× times the sperd
@AlexS-sc3gb6 жыл бұрын
I have a 99% working 2011 MacBook Pro.
@ZXRulezzz6 жыл бұрын
They're not ants, they're little computer people :)
@Tedybear3156 жыл бұрын
That is the original idea for the "Lemmings" game no doubt..
@JasonMasters6 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's closer to being the first version of The Sims. Yes, Little Computer People was a real game, very similar in nature to the once-popular Tamagotchi (however it's spelled).
@Firing_Order6 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that they have been hard at work in the computer keeping everything working. That's the only possible explanation for this thing even booting.
@Commander646 жыл бұрын
I didn't know they had Nano Tech in the 80's!
@mraiwa10006 жыл бұрын
Yes! Somehow still alive, and somehow making things worse!
@maltrusmaltren Жыл бұрын
Your emotion is incredible! After 4 years I was watching the video and hoping that everything worked out, it was amazing! A friend recommended your channel today and I thought your videos were sensational.
@JayMar-no5vy6 жыл бұрын
I am truly impressed at the resilience of this computer and Adrian's no capitulation approach. I loved the C-64 and later the Amiga. Today I have emulators and every single game ever made for both computers. I recently built a console and decided to add about 10 more 8 bit emulators. Still love to play (I am 79 yrs old).
@redlinechaser7942 Жыл бұрын
Sweet man! I'm 50 and doing the same plus a LAN network of 7 retro gaming pcs and counting! Game On!
@monoamiga6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I love your enthusiasm when you find things working! I mean, this whole video is just touching :)
@Thegamingground6 жыл бұрын
This video made my day, this is the best thing that I've seen in months. Well done mate!
@thatsuaveraptor42976 жыл бұрын
got chills when the music started
@RemyJustice974 жыл бұрын
The joy in your voice when the floppy runs is delightful
@chevytruckman346 жыл бұрын
What a blast from the past. I had one of these bad boys back in the early 90's. Spent HOURS in front of it.
@schm47044 жыл бұрын
Bah. I spent my YOUTH in front of my C128. :-)
@NJP766 жыл бұрын
As an aficionado of the C-64, this made my day! I could hardly believe that it just fired right up...almost as if it had just been turned off yesterday. My first legit computer was a C-64, and have fond memories of many hours on it. Very inspiring video. BTW, I proudly own two C-64's in the "breadbox" form factor, three 1541 drives, and all kinds of other stuff (and software) for them. I think I may even have the C-64 version of Sim City! It has been years since the last time I had either of them out of storage. Think it is time to pull at least one down and fire it up.
@Robo10q6 жыл бұрын
You, sir, are a steely eyed 8-bit guy. I can't imagine how many people would have not given this a second look, but you showed no fear and possibly no common sense--congratulations.
@CB3ROB-CyberBunker6 жыл бұрын
just move the chips over to a new pcb. problem solved. although it's a 64C... don't think we have the pcb designs for the C yet. lol. but it doesn't look that bad... take the metal parts off, run them through the electroplating bath again, maybe run the entire pcb through the wave soldering machine (at least for the bottom) and most things should just look like they are new again..... a bit of half rotten away soldermask never hurt much, especially not as it's soldermask on top of a rather primitive form of hasl anyway on most of those boards. so there still is a load of lead over all the copper traces even with all the green goo rotten away.
@albiss11646 жыл бұрын
Made me think of a Sci-Fi movie in which someone is dealing with very old tech and reviving the main computer. The 'dirt' inside it was truly shocking to see. Incredible!
@krakenunbound10 ай бұрын
@7:00 you are talking about the pins. A dremel with a wire wheel brush makes quick work of that issue.
@MarianneExJohnson5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Out of the many computers I have owned over the years, my (sadly long gone) C64C with 1581 is the one I remember the most fondly. Great to see this one come back to life!
@NuntiusLegis2 жыл бұрын
With such an affection for the machine, do yourself a favor and buy one back sooner rather than later, the prices know only one direction. :-)
@VenomStryker5 жыл бұрын
I love how he just plugs it in and fires it up after hooking up the fuse. That thing is a damn tank! lol
@chriss20316 жыл бұрын
You so totally need to send your vid to the 8-bit guy and show him that. The reaction would be worth it.
@sherazmalik21796 жыл бұрын
Man this brings me back to my childhood days. I don't have a C64 anymore, but this makes me purchase one again ;)
@ast36639 ай бұрын
incredible find..awesome..some things never die..also nice tune at the end
@boomer20955 жыл бұрын
I am totally convinced this is a legitimate computer left outside and not one of the many Sony radio’s, guitars or tin toys planted by KZbinrs , who just happen to video their discover. This was very cool to watch 👍
@neville132bbk6 жыл бұрын
"Age shall not weary them, Nor the years condemn.."
@zeldaglitchman6 жыл бұрын
"Some physical insertion and removal goes a long way" Lovely out of context quote from this video.
@NFFCMod6 жыл бұрын
Looks like something from fallout 3
@NFFCMod6 жыл бұрын
@Skid1288 yeah you're right dude
@BlackEpyon6 жыл бұрын
@Skid1288 If you're familiar with CuriousMarc's channel...
@nicholasbryant12396 жыл бұрын
The Pipboy's boot menu in FO4 is actually an homage to the Commodore 64's specifications. These things really are apocalypse proof
@keithv7085 жыл бұрын
Yes
@acefreak95615 жыл бұрын
4*
@Gectms Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video at least a half dozen times since it came out. One of my favourites from this channel👍
@dgwachtel5 жыл бұрын
Just found this in my suggestions. Amazing that it works! Also surprised that all the capacitors were still good. Nice! All my current machines are either my old personal machines or discarded thrift shop donations but are in reasonable condition, unlike that Commodore. I got them all working with minimal effort, mostly just cleaning them up, removing the CPU chip from it's socket, cleaning the old compound off, adding new according to the chip makers instructions, re-socketing the chip and repairing/replacing jammed or inoperable fans. At my first software job after university we had a PDP-11 that worked only occasionally. The DEC techs came over to "repair" the machine but it never worked longer than a week. My hardware buddy and I got permission to check out the machine. We noticed that the "gold plated" edge connectors had most of their gold worn off and the underlying metal showed light corrosion. We asked if we could take an eraser to them and our bosses freaked out. "But, but what about the gold?" they asked. Since the company was operating on a shoestring and the machine didn't work at all, we got permission to have at it. We took an eraser to each edge connector, cleaned up the sockets as best we could, removed the eraser debris and plugged the boards back in. Failure gone for good! Just a suggestion: navel jelly and a round jewellers file to clean rusty sockets, then use a round toothpick to snag the debris, douche in alcohol to do the final cleaning and let dry, a heat gun would help. A judicious application of diluted (?) navel jelly and a wipe with a Scotch Brite pad might make the traces look good as new. I haven't tried it though! I have an H-8 that worked the last time I ran it about fifteen years ago. It's been stored in okay conditions but may need some TLC to run. The Zenith S100 bus machine hasn't been stored in a climate controlled room so it may require some more work to get running again when I can find the time and the motivation to fire up my my old equipment again. Quick question: what do you do about floppy disks if the originals are unavailable or damaged? regards -dave
@elmariachi51336 жыл бұрын
Lonely ant climbed the ancient VIC-mountain in confusion. It has had so many nights on the VIC, watching the business of the colony. But now - there was nothing. :(
@oh2fzo6 жыл бұрын
The music at 10:10 is called Ode To C64 by Søren Lund (Jeff) - Ode_to_C64.sid.
@oh2fzo6 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I found your channel. You totally deserved the sub. Do you have other demo diskettes/tapes?
@maicod6 жыл бұрын
Adrian and others : might you not know his channel I highly recommend the channel called curiousmarc. He and his friends restore OLD and old computers. Very interesting !
@Gravitight6 жыл бұрын
Fukin scholar my dude
@JasonKelk6 жыл бұрын
It's really nice to see the machine survived it's ordeal... and that it's one of those rarer units with an old board in the new case as well. And I didn't write the intro shown in the video, but the main menu on SIDBurners 7 is my code from when I was a member of Nostalgia. =-)
@bardo00073 жыл бұрын
This is the most amazing video I have seen in my life.
@KnightMirkoYo4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I couldn't believe it. So resilient! I wanna find myself a Commodore 64 now
@stewiegriffin65036 жыл бұрын
when 8 bit guy saw this, they had to take him to the hospital.
@luuk32136 жыл бұрын
Stewie is not impressed though.
@SorcererAC06 жыл бұрын
*take
@stewiegriffin65036 жыл бұрын
corrected.ty
@SorcererAC06 жыл бұрын
Stewie Griffin np :)
@yonice6 жыл бұрын
I want to see this retrobrited
@DeputatKaktus5 жыл бұрын
The machine needs a sticker that says „Anthill inside“. (and yes, this was Terry Pratchett reference)
@Maxjoker986 жыл бұрын
"Let's find out if this thing actually works" *Ant crawls out from underneath a chip* (2:19)
@Retrohertz6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! For anyone looking, it crawls out from the main horizontal chip within the white outlined square.
@billant26 жыл бұрын
It's a BUG!! literally and figuratively he-he
@busybiscy6 жыл бұрын
I don't see it
@Retrohertz6 жыл бұрын
@@busybiscy I explained where it is above.
@SpinosaurusStudios_6 жыл бұрын
Retronade it’s on top of the thing in the middle of the white square
@jonbiedermann792 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this- brought up a lot of memories as the Commodore 64 was my first computer before getting an Apple II+, and I'm still doing programming 43 years later!
@Doc_Rainbow Жыл бұрын
2:45 holy hell that Ant Survived like getting his home destroyed, Watered down, rubbed in Alcohol and Blow Dryed xD
@danikarst78406 жыл бұрын
the music of those old skool computers stays the best
@jaykay186 жыл бұрын
I never had a machine as awful as that, but I do have 3 stories that are somewhat similar in nature: 1. I once found an old 486 sitting on the curb. The people had taken the case off and left it open, and they had their sprinkler on so the case was full of water. On top of that, some kid threw their gum into the machine, which landed on the pins for the Northbridge chip. After letting it dry and cleaning the gum, it worked! 2. When I was a wee little lad, I was sitting in the basement on our IBM PCjr, programming away in BASIC. I saw an insect (looked like a wasp) crawling around on top of the sidecars. Later I realized that was obviously a "computer bug". 3. Someone I talked to back in my college days said he once found an Apple IIc thrown out and it had been rained on. He said when he opened it up, he found a worm inside the Apple. Anyway, excellent work on that, I would have taken one look at it and decided it wasn't even worth opening up.
@justwatch47576 жыл бұрын
A worm in an apple 😂
@SpeccyMan6 жыл бұрын
You know the only thing worse than finding a worm in your apple. Finding half a worm in your apple. ;)
@Nighterlev6 жыл бұрын
+enter_a_nickname16 You should've just took it. Those things are rare as fuck, especially if working.
@peterparker65846 жыл бұрын
nobody's going to believe this but I may as well get into it. After reading this little bit. In the early 2000's. When I was out picking up scrap metal in the winter I came across something that kind of made me chuckle so I picked it up out of curiosity. It was a computer tower that was inside a Rubbermaid container which was filled with water and had been frozen. Buddy of mine worked on computers at the time. And like I said we picked it up out of novelty. Can't remember if it was a 286 386 or 486. Whatever thing was super old.talk a couple days to dry it out. Not a thing wrong with the machine. End up sitting in a corner here for several years after that and machine still function just fine when I sold it a few years ago. I don't know what they used to make those things out of but they could survive some pretty wild stuff. It was usually the hard drives that ended up causing a problem.\
@jarvindriftwood6 жыл бұрын
They definitely built those machines better in the early days. I've heard they started using less gold on chips and that the soldering isn't as good. The throwaway culture is really depressing. There's also the problem of starting with a case and making parts to fit inside instead of starting with parts and building a case to fix. It was done some in the past with stuff like the C64 and the Apples with the screen built on top but it seems more companies are doing it with these half size PCs and who can build the thinnest laptop.
@whyme9926 жыл бұрын
That's just awesome! I can't believe it's working without replacing a single chip! They really don't make them like they used to haha.
@gytux02586 жыл бұрын
They also kind of can't make them like they used to.
@zackburkhart65216 жыл бұрын
gytux0258 they could if they wanted to
@orionx82956 жыл бұрын
gytux0258 ..It was made in America!
@SciDOCMBC5 жыл бұрын
I'm not really a retro fan but I love computers and seeing someone handle such a great invention from our youth almost tears one's heart you did a great job 👍👍👍👍👍
@concernedcitizen63135 жыл бұрын
You, sir, have done a service. Computer and other technology like this need to be preserved, and they deserve the respect you've shown this Commodore 64 if for no other reason than the fact that they were instrumental in bringing us to where we are today technologically.