Yes, practically every NES game used the same sounds, but that's when the creativity of musicians came into play. For instance, the soundtracks of the Zelda, Ninja Gaiden and Casltevania games are amazing and very different from each other.
@danmackintosh63255 жыл бұрын
Not quite so creative when they just synthesized rock & metal tunes though lol (Not that I'm complaining. I mean it's quite a buzz to get onto the airship in Mario 3 and find yourself fighting Koopas to Diamond Head :D )
@kingkrispy52895 жыл бұрын
But then japan was like: Smh we need sawtooth *shoves a sound chip in famicom cart* America:what about us Japan:fuck you lol
@BalancedSpirit795 жыл бұрын
The dweeb Weeb sawtooth could actually be used on the PCM channel
@DeskoDev5 жыл бұрын
@Metagalactic Llama Uh, Castlevania wasn't done by Tim Follin at all, hell, none of the three were. It doesn't even compare to any of his NES stuff. EDIT: CV1's soundtrack was done by Kinuyo Yamashita and Satoe Terashima, CV2 was Terashima, Kenichi Matsubara and Kouji Murata and CV3 was Hidenori Maezawa, Jun Funahashi, Yukie Morimoto and Yoshinori Sasaki. None of those many names are Tim Follin.
@TetsuDeinonychus4 жыл бұрын
@@danmackintosh6325 Or they both were inspired by Gustav Holst's "Mars, Bringer of War".
@turkeysamwich003 жыл бұрын
Tim Follin pushed the NES's soundchip beyond its limits by doing tricks like using the triangle wave bass channel to emulate a kick drum sound, and having the main square wave riff play quieter and a split second delayed in the second square wave channel to emulate reverb. If you look at an oscilloscope of any of the games he composed for (Silver Surfer, Pictionary, etc.) you can see it in action. It's super cool
@lordevyl8317 Жыл бұрын
That's true, but by the time Follin started doing stuff on the NES, he was already an established musician on systems such as the C64, Amstrad, and ZX Spectrum. A better example to use would have been Kinuyo "James Banana" Yamashita, who did the awesome music for the first NES Castlevania game
@zPamboli6 ай бұрын
Who could have told that Pictionary of all games, would hace such a slapping main theme on the title screen.
@Grim_Grim_PR5 ай бұрын
@@zPamboli or plok the boss theme beach theme and creepy craig sound majestic
@bernardli95145 жыл бұрын
Alright so all the music in this video. 0:20 - Avoid the Noid, IBM PC and Apple 2 0:43 - also Avoid the Noid 1:00 - Swinth Demo 1 (stationary ark) 1:09 - Space Quest III - Pirates of Pestulon. Cannot identify OS. 1:13 - Super Mario Bros 2, NES 2:18 - Super Mario Bros 2, NES 2:57 - Super Mario Bros 3, NES 3:36 - MULE, Comodore 64. 4:04 - Commando, Comodore 64. 5:21 - Ultima 6, IBM PC version. 6:06 - 8 bit guy, Casio sk-1 6:29 - Blood Money, Comodore Amiga. 6:42 - Guitar Slinger (Modtracker Song by jogeir liljedahl), Comodore Amiga
@Galahadfairlight5 жыл бұрын
6:29 is the intro to Blood Money by Psygnosis
@bernardli95145 жыл бұрын
@@Galahadfairlight thanks for that! Man maybe next time this should be in the subtitles or something.
@chrissiefoxchristina53615 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list! All this music is great!
@boiii3productions9455 жыл бұрын
1:09 - Space Quest III - Pirates of Pestulon is MS DOS
@cyberx12545 жыл бұрын
Thanx!!
@jonavarque3476 жыл бұрын
When I wrote for the SNES I used a sample playback system that used samples I generated. NO FM audio at all.
@billyline35584 жыл бұрын
I'm working for a SMW hack on the SNES
@rowboat104 жыл бұрын
@@billyline3558 really?
@blidrob3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Can you provide any links for your work? Thanks!
@wayahedia99893 жыл бұрын
@@blidrob It was 25 years ago and they're all toast by now! The Mask from THQ might be somewhere!
@wayahedia99893 жыл бұрын
@@rowboat10 most assuredly!
@silversheep46054 жыл бұрын
So that explains why one voice stops when a sound effect play on the nes, because there’s not enough voices for it so it cuts one off and replaces it with the other.
@k80theshade2 жыл бұрын
Yup. This is also indirectly what was responsible for several well-known bugs...like the flag bug and the firework bug. People tried for. decades. to understand why the 8-bit proc could not do an entire screen wipe (these were still fast, so they looked like fast pulses to the player)at EXACTLY the same time as it was playing an audio effect.
@itsjustcami16332 жыл бұрын
Yea I noticed that in SMB and SMB2
@lemmesmash2 жыл бұрын
yeah i noticed that too back then. i think it was Contra. when you burst your machine gun, the drums cuts off then goes back in as soon as you let go of the button.
@speggiman Жыл бұрын
@@lemmesmash Same in Altered Beast I think
@Bandicoot8035 жыл бұрын
0:56 - It must have taken the programmers quite some time to design this epic laugh!
@techpro14645 жыл бұрын
Its pretty funny
@icedchqi4 жыл бұрын
Bandicoot803 yep it’s pretty cool
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
easier than you might think...
@tobyjarvais17583 жыл бұрын
the sound it made a couple seconds prior to that when the Noid trampled the dominos guy had me laughing for some reason
@KrotowX3 жыл бұрын
I believe that "laughing" sequence itself became available in public domain a while ago. Through time met this sound in various completely different hardware - toys, door bells etc. Basically in any hardware capable to play square impulse batches.
@jonathanjensen1897 жыл бұрын
6:31 "HIT IT!" "yeah!" smh...
@kelloginc15 жыл бұрын
xD
@bagasdwika4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@bobbywright60624 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Jensen it was like crack for an 8 year old me.
@NunoLava4 жыл бұрын
what's the song/game? i actually really like it
@NunoLava4 жыл бұрын
according to comments it's kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZrQpmmCpdOqo7M
@Gtchy12309 жыл бұрын
Seriously one of the coolest videos I've ever seen and really fascinating info! Well done 8-Bit Guy!
@EnergeticSpark632 жыл бұрын
hey
@Jaunty_Jeff2 жыл бұрын
@@EnergeticSpark63 hey
@alphaomega83732 жыл бұрын
You alive Gtchy?
@MrUltimatemaniac1003 жыл бұрын
I love old console music. It’s very nostalgic for me but it also has a very mystical and Haunting feel to it 🤷🏽♂️
@nintendies8 жыл бұрын
Was watching this on my phone when at 2:30 "The first 2 can only produce square waves, that sound like this:" (Gets phone call) Me(for a split second) - oh that doesn't sound that bad, oh wait...
@billyline35586 жыл бұрын
😂
@jayextarys86165 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaaha 😂
@joychapman92285 жыл бұрын
FUNNN GUINCIDENE
@LGR9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@Clone25729 жыл бұрын
Hey there LGR c:
@MiaKiesman9 жыл бұрын
+Lazy Game Reviews Oh, hey Clint! How are you?!
@tuaamtheadventurer42529 жыл бұрын
+Lazy Game Reviews You watch 8 - bit guy?
@SteveM0001009 жыл бұрын
+7mario6 It's advertising, sensible youtuber
@zaneroote57989 жыл бұрын
+Lazy Game Reviews Huh? How come you're here in this video comment system?
@NecrosVideos2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always top tier. I’ll never stop loving retro tech!
@wildbilltexas9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included a song by Rob Hubbard (Commando). He was a master at programming the C=64's SID chip. Also props for showing us the awesome Casio SK-1 and Yamaha PSS-470.
@losalfajoresok9 жыл бұрын
+wildbilltexas As soon as he mentioned the SID chip I was saying "please use Commando, please use Commando" :D
@wildbilltexas9 жыл бұрын
+Lord Alfajor I used to hook up my C=64's sound output to my stereo. I still remember being so blown away by the opening theme when I first played it.
@losalfajoresok9 жыл бұрын
+wildbilltexas I had a tape recorder that I used to put in front of the TV to record the songs while my dog was barking as a background noise. Good old days.
@spaceman2219 жыл бұрын
+wildbilltexas holy crap...you're here too?
@Linkfinite8 жыл бұрын
+spaceman221 hundreds of us
@bobsaggat8 жыл бұрын
2:47 I know some people who can only produce noise
@vextechnet58657 жыл бұрын
Jon Deal 😂😂😂
@thejay89637 жыл бұрын
Trump?
@ThomasFarquhar27 жыл бұрын
Jon Deal like you
@louiei.15527 жыл бұрын
Every black girl in class
@FinalBaton7 жыл бұрын
+Jon Deal Ok that was good
@KimHarderFog3 жыл бұрын
I was floored when you recreated the Ultima song on the keyboard. Great stuff!
@malachimusclerat8 жыл бұрын
yo that commando music fuckin bangs
@malachimusclerat8 жыл бұрын
also so does that commodore amiga game
@angelanajeralc997 жыл бұрын
space dude is total bull shit
@retrovhsmanvaultfromthe70s977 жыл бұрын
Marcos Moutta in the 1940s there where no video games
@ElevatingEurope7 жыл бұрын
RETRO VHS MAN VAULT FROM THE 70S 80S AND 90S No shit Sherlock
@Mudamir7 жыл бұрын
fullmetalwindbreaker search for instant remedý commando there are 2 remixes of that song
@FinalBaton8 жыл бұрын
That C64 Commando track is SICK!!! Holy... I didn't know much about the C64 soundchip and now I'M pretty impressed This video also reaffirmed my preference for game console music : FM synth > Samples. By a wide margin
@tassadar19778 жыл бұрын
+FinalBaton you will enter a realm of SID awesomeness soon enough. Have a look at the MIDIBOX Sid project for some inspiration
@KuraIthys8 жыл бұрын
Ah, but a sample based system can imitate FM synth. All you need are appropriate samples. I will admit though FM synths have some interesting qualities to their sound. But... It varies considerably from chip to chip as to what it sounds like - Not always good...
@mariosskl83478 жыл бұрын
+KuraIthys no emulator can 100% accurately replicate a true synthesizer.
@Roxor1288 жыл бұрын
+Marios Sklavenitis Not quite true. If the synthesiser's characteristic sound relies on analogue components, then yes, you can't fully emulate it. If it's all-digital, then a full emulation is possible, though it will likely involve lots of bit-shifting black magic to pull it off.
@kixxalot8 жыл бұрын
This video doesn't dig very deep, it doesn't explain the differences between FM and subtractive synthesis. The synthesis method of the C64 was not FM, it was a subtractive analog synth.
@sfneurosurgeon3 жыл бұрын
Very educational and a trip down memory lane! I learned how to program with the Commodore 64. Commando was one of my favorite game themes!
@hayabusa53063 жыл бұрын
Was the song as fast as it is in the video? Cuz I can’t find it like it is in this video. Amazing song! (Commando)
@gmdrandom6287 Жыл бұрын
@@hayabusa5306 try to find the ntsc version
@TechDeals8 жыл бұрын
Hey, I learned something! I had a Sound Blaster in my 386DX/25 way back in 1991ish (might have been after that, don't recall anymore). I knew it played games that only supported Adlib, now I know why! The voice thing was cool, very nice video...
@RRSYSinfo8 жыл бұрын
+Tech Deals I totally miss my Creative Sound Blaster Live card, with real time DSP, proper loved that sound card, but sadly for me, it was only suitable for pre windows XP 32bit
@killyouwithfire6 жыл бұрын
Tech Deals :o tech deals!! I love your channel
@xXxmlg_vacxXx6 жыл бұрын
Tech Deals i
@hartwigbaars2486 жыл бұрын
I DON'T LEARN!!!! xD
@jonathanmartin72526 жыл бұрын
Tech Deals I did also. I think Doom for the NES actually first came out in 1991. Makes sense,because of the instruments used in both the 90s,and in that particular game.
@obsoletegeek9 жыл бұрын
Some behind the scenes info: We had to make some major adjustments to the set and David's camera setup to get everything in frame. I'm a freakishly tall dude!
@The8BitGuy9 жыл бұрын
+The Obsolete Geek Indeed. If we do another video together, we should be sitting down somewhere. Or I should stand on a box.
@whisper20539 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy He IS a bit freakishly large, yes? :P
@samuelstinson32746 жыл бұрын
Dave “Too Tall for the Screen” Guest.
@mojoblues664 жыл бұрын
So either Dave is just 150cm or this guy is 240cm
@lozD833 жыл бұрын
Dave "Guest 8-Bit Speeker"
@Adrians_Ideas7 жыл бұрын
I don't know what everyone is talking about, but 4:08 has a rocking tune to it.
@Ray.Norrish7 жыл бұрын
You missed out on something special
@Adrians_Ideas7 жыл бұрын
Ray Norrish i guess...
@windows74585 жыл бұрын
Yep! This makes me wish I was around in the 80's...
@Peccath5 жыл бұрын
Commando!
@pixelatedcroissant345 жыл бұрын
i agree but when they put sound three its the best in my opinion
@SrArtoo5 жыл бұрын
4:22 Incredible, no one ever has explained it so clear and simple. Great !
@rodneydaub38124 жыл бұрын
I was visiting my "share ware" store once, which oddly enough was in the local mall. I found a program for IBM pc that split the stock beep into three voices. It played "Fur Elise" and many other tunes using the three voices. It's was still the the basic "beep beep" sound, but three voice of it... it really was super cool.. mainly because I could not afford a sound card at the time, all my money had gone to my EGA card I had a flight sim once that somehow made white noise out of a PC speaker that was used a the jet engine sound effect. Very cool You know your intro gets stuck in my head 8-bit guy!
@miasuke6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a dedicated video like this for the Sega Master System...
@rydoggo3 жыл бұрын
It worked like the NES except it's all either square waves or noise, also had no pcm channel iirc. The sound chip was also featured in some Tandy computers.
@RaysGamingChannel20033 жыл бұрын
@@rydoggo yep that's correct
@shockwave66983 жыл бұрын
Sega Sucks
@supersonic92362 жыл бұрын
@@shockwave6698 shut up
@WellBeSerious122 жыл бұрын
@@shockwave6698 Writing that while knowing SEGA's hardware was better than Nintendo's at every comparable generation. Nintendo/Master System to GameCube/Dreamcast.
@princeplotena9 жыл бұрын
Here lies The IBook Guy 2012-2015 Name will be missed
@kattenelvis17789 жыл бұрын
Not really, 8 bit guy is better
@FinlandCrafted9 жыл бұрын
+katten elvis Nah...
@DanelonNicolas9 жыл бұрын
+Prince Plotena real death is oblivion
@fordesponja4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if someday you talk about the Mega Drive/Genesis sound and its somehow frankestein approach to sound between old and new and how a good composer could do marvelous scores while other just did absolute disasters.
@zackiechan26016 жыл бұрын
6:07 Ow, I could feel that dead inside smile.
@vittoman43924 жыл бұрын
He is like "Oh God, what am I doing?!?!?"
@gravityhamster88053 жыл бұрын
Literally went to the comment section just to see if someone mentioned this part. XD
@remcovandenengel6496 Жыл бұрын
Its more like a "nailed it" smile
@doctorx00795 жыл бұрын
3:07 That isn't quite a fair statement. Some developers like Sunsoft, Konami and Capcom tried to get more creative with it. Like using different samples on channel 5 and playing melody on channels 4 and 3. But it was pretty tricky.
@uncannyx Жыл бұрын
Sunsoft especially, Batman, Fester's Quest, etc.. they loved that PCM channel
@Me-zo8yc6 жыл бұрын
3:41 SID chip victorious! That tune is so catchy
@enviousshade17702 жыл бұрын
Exactlyy
@MarkeyJester8 жыл бұрын
There's one aspect that you guys seemed to have missed, regarding the FM synthesizer (I'm wondering if you've confused it with PSG controllers...). For example, many Yamaha chips didn't have just a single pattern wave for a single channel. Each channel would have had multiple "operators" that played different wave patterns, and those patterns would feed into each other within a single channel, and that channel would output a complex waveform that doesn't fit the criteria of a simple square, trianle, sawtooth, etc... The Mega Drive/Genesis' YM2612 for example had four operators per channel, where each operator outputs a sinewave, the sinewaves are fed into each other, and the channel itself outputs an extremely complex waveform, if controlled correctly, known existing instruments such as a piano could be made. Cool video though, I did learn a small deal about the more primitive PSG sounds, your presentation is fantastic too! It gets the message across very well.
@cope94896 жыл бұрын
Well, there are also the SMS channels. Those were explained in the video though. (3 square waves and 1 noise channel)
@toubatsu5 жыл бұрын
Markey Jester say that again but in human
@croysk3 жыл бұрын
You’re entirely correct. They conflate PSG and FM, and completely ignore operators (or any filtering) and only briefly mention pulse generation and envelopes.
@MoonDeLaAxel6 жыл бұрын
I actually love using a tracker to make music. It's quite fun, honestly.
@harmonicresonanceproject3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the genesis of the 8 bit guy here! 2021, and 2015 feels like a million light years away.
@mrtonytechnics7 жыл бұрын
As a music producer, I love watching these videos. Sometimes I wish they were longer, great job!
@FrankJavCee9 жыл бұрын
I want all that LOFI equipment! Great + Accurate video! :D
@myonnewilloughby63099 жыл бұрын
big fan of your channel man
@Rami21458 жыл бұрын
+FrankJavCee You get around man I see you on the tumlr all the time and it's surreal just seeing you pop up on a random vid.
@Panda-rl4pc6 жыл бұрын
And the "Hit It" from Rob Base
@scott73054 жыл бұрын
7:01 dang, that mod sounds good!
@Mnnvint4 жыл бұрын
Guitar Slinger, by Jogeir Liljedahl. So good they included it on the disk that came with the Gravis Ultrasound card for the PC :D
@urmo3454 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good choice: legendary Guitar Slinger
@benwemyss97903 жыл бұрын
I just posted the name .... glad someone else remembers it!! It had two parts. Both were awesome !!
@DoormanDudeMinecraftOfficial9 жыл бұрын
You're videos are just amazing. Also I liked the name iBook guy better
@jordanjamison979 жыл бұрын
+Doormandude I would have never found him from the name Ibook guy I found this channel from his oldschool videos.
@Exigentable9 жыл бұрын
+Doormandude I thought it was a bad name. this name is much better.
@DoormanDudeMinecraftOfficial9 жыл бұрын
Exigentable I thaught it was more unique. If you found his videos, it wasn't from searching his name, it was from seeing his videos in your feed and finding it because you where actually interested. The name 8-bit guy just seems to fall into a more generic catagory of youtube. Nothing bad, I just thaught the old name was better.
@iaxx239 жыл бұрын
+Doormandude your*
@jordanjamison979 жыл бұрын
iAxX He knows his mistake. We know his mistake. No one cares.
@BlueArpeggio.PoDoDan9 жыл бұрын
6:42 I don't know....I...just suddenly felt something nostalgic inside of my heart. It feels like it's trying to tell me stories from long time ago I have forgot
@yonezawa28106 жыл бұрын
5:39 *Man, I could listen to you playing that over and over all day, so deep*
@auyerrafael39449 жыл бұрын
I really liked the new name! Makes a lot more sense now!
@LeeDaniel0019 жыл бұрын
Personally I found him with the iBook guy... I probably would've never found him now...
@auyerrafael39449 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Lee Well, I found him not searching for apple stuff, but searching for a random tech topic that I can't recall. So for me, it wouldn't change a thing. And it is probably still possible to find him with the old name...
@LeeDaniel0019 жыл бұрын
True, if you search up iBook guy, you get his channel. But still, I wouldn't have guessed this was his channel.
@Stoned_Pony9 жыл бұрын
+Auyer Rafael This is the first vid I've ever seen of this guy. If he's been in my recommended vids before, I would have just ignored it because I block out anything to do with crApple.
@mehftv9 жыл бұрын
He exploded in popularity
@LivingWithTheGuzmans6 жыл бұрын
Great info
@diofan573 жыл бұрын
Bruh 3 year old verified comment with no replies.. wow
@husamismael89263 жыл бұрын
@@diofan57 look at their channel. they do "rock paper scissors but loser removes one article of clothing" type shit. I'd rather be unverified my whole life than be that. also wtf they doing on a video about retro tech lol
@diofan573 жыл бұрын
@@husamismael8926 oh dang, thanks for telling me
@goamateurzero6223 жыл бұрын
This is even in 2021 still one of my favorite videos of all time!
@fargeeks8 жыл бұрын
I like that sampling song that comes in at 7:00 I would love to hear an extended version
@Horny_Fruit_Flies8 жыл бұрын
Jogeir Liljedahl - Guitar Slinger
@ekwah58218 жыл бұрын
prospectus That song brought on instant nostalgia feels for me. Thought it was so cool as a teenager. Glad someone remembered what it's called!
@Horny_Fruit_Flies8 жыл бұрын
Bill Hawke Glad I could help :)
@StormcloudLive8 жыл бұрын
It sounds like something from Dizzy on the megadrive... or what I remember Dizzy sounding like lol, I'm sure that is much worse now if I was to go back to it.
@letterfella7 жыл бұрын
I'd hoped someone else had already asked about that!
@MelvinG248 жыл бұрын
AM I the only one who is in love of this :D 5:36
@valenfraux7 жыл бұрын
Melvin Antonio Guerrero Morán I love it!
@neehgurg21117 жыл бұрын
Melvin Antonio Guerrero Morán yes it's shit
@sulfuricacid9517 жыл бұрын
G Maeruf lolwut
@kylarokorbor5287 жыл бұрын
Melvin Antonio Guerrero Morán no,I also think it's cool. These old school sound cards may have been used in the Atari platforms that hit store shelves before the NES. or the Famicom. Both Atari,and Nintendo, including their Japanese versions were classics.
@sovuchkin50937 жыл бұрын
no, your not the only, some people like it as well as me
@calska1405 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This has been, for me, one of those questions that has been taking up space in the back of my mind for years. But the material was always too daunting or too simplistic. You do a great job of explaining exactly what i wanted to know.
@dorianlee47479 жыл бұрын
Love the C64 title cards!
@CommodoreFan649 жыл бұрын
+Dorian Lee Same, brought back some great memories for me. :-) C64 FOREVER!!!
@revolcane8 жыл бұрын
I remember when when I played Ikari Warriors 2 on the NES for the first time and I heard "C'mon let's fight". Blew my mind then :P.
@joeygonzalez8837 жыл бұрын
Oh danm Its DPCM
@ReySilverskin5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but that Ultima VI theme makes me feel something I can only identify as nostalgia - nostalgia for something that I have literally never experienced. It's so simple and yet there's a hauntingly indescribable beauty to it. My most sincere praise to whomever composed that piece.
@TheXelaNet8 жыл бұрын
I could listen to that 3-voice music all day - how did you get such clean samples/separate the tracks?
@Jehezukiel8 жыл бұрын
nowadays, every game music files are now able to be emulated into semi-MIDI+soundfonts packages. known as xSF (PSF - for PS1 , NSF - for NES) and these MIDI files contain "commands" used to each samples or channels, and can be muted or soloed respectively... sorry for my progressive english..
@Jehezukiel8 жыл бұрын
***** i kinda use "emulated" to explaiin that explanation... Thanks a lot! More things i learned about VGM Sequences
@Roxfox8 жыл бұрын
If the C64 sound is your thing, check out the High Voltage SID Collection. It's an archive of practically all music ever produced using that sound chip, and the necessary players or plugins required to listen to them. Best part about emulated music is that it's all just tiny chip data, so you can stumble upon a brilliant tune that plays for a good seven minutes without looping (like Cybernoid 2 by Jeroen Tel!), and it's just a couple of kilobytes big. Most if not all SID players also allow you to sneak in and change the volume of the individual channels on the fly, so you can really dig in and enjoy a particular synth or figure out a complicated arpeggio. If you're interested but don't know where to start listening, I'll quickly list off a couple of my dozens of favorite artists: Jeroen Tel, Rob Hubbard (of Commando fame, as seen in this video), Martin Galway, Ben Daglish, and... shall we say, Thomas "DRAX" Mogensen.
@deathbuncentral23107 жыл бұрын
TheXelaNet you need to get sidwiz and download separate raw sound files
@retrovhsmanvaultfromthe70s977 жыл бұрын
Roxfox in the 1940s or 1950s there where no video games of those years
@SimCityEA19898 жыл бұрын
3:40 to 3:50 beast tune I ever heard XD
@bandombeviews60358 жыл бұрын
Beast tune?
@SimCityEA19898 жыл бұрын
Best sound XP
@drasco610848 жыл бұрын
It is a pretty beast tune lol
@thebananaman18958 жыл бұрын
i know .it is from the game M.U.L.E
@TheRedCap7 жыл бұрын
back when ea was actually good.
@rruhland3 жыл бұрын
So one thing that’s always interested me is how they made things sound so different on certain games on the NES. Like, to me, Zelda II and Punch-Out have the same “flavor” of sound which was quite different from Mario for example. How did they get such different sound from just the square and triangle waves?
@odysseyguyperson Жыл бұрын
Eventually, programmers figure out how to better utilize the sound chips. Nothing from SMB sounds like Startropics since by 1990 they’d already optimized the sound chip. And also, different music will sound like different things!
@thingyee11189 жыл бұрын
Love the new name. The_8_Bit_Guy++;
@finnabon9 жыл бұрын
Me to, I don't know why everybody doesn't like it.
@MadmanEpic9 жыл бұрын
I think it kinda lacks the ring to it.
@torturetests9 жыл бұрын
I miss the iBook guy
@lordmmx13039 жыл бұрын
+thingyee1118 maybe in future he will change it to The_Windows_Guy
@thingyee11189 жыл бұрын
lmao. haha :P
@55lumens6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so in-depth and informative! Awesome job!
@daniela_dundel6 жыл бұрын
in depth? u r kidding, i c... u cant b serious wrting this
@danmackintosh63255 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, I just witnessed the birth of The 8-Bit Guy as a channel! And of course I enjoy Rob's videos also!
@nitrogen768 жыл бұрын
These videogame tunes gave me a nostalgia-gasm. The SK-1 was my first synth keyboard, too. Double nostalgia-gasm.
@thejay89638 жыл бұрын
4:29 this clip sounds like It could be its own music!!
@sthdk77258 жыл бұрын
+AstroMoo2 Minecrafter AGREEEEEEEEE
@sockman428 жыл бұрын
true!
@jezd22238 жыл бұрын
ikr,it sound awesome
@SuperWeedPower8 жыл бұрын
My Jam, make me a 1hour vid with that sweet line
@NESherv8 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought when I first heard it on its own! Super awesome track that I immediately started moving to. The other tracks on top of it just sounded too noisy and distorted.
@johnchainsman4 жыл бұрын
Love the Blood Money clip. Amiga forever! And Octalyzer that supported 8 voices.
@curiousottman7 жыл бұрын
This by far is my favourite video from the 8 bit guy. Well done. Great content. Very informative.
@marcsm20086 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, very informative and entertaining. And the part where you reproduced the Ultima 6 intro theme on your keyboard gave me shivers! ^^
@JoelWassermansurfer3 жыл бұрын
Super Stoked on this video. I am teaching my Tech Production class about music, and I feel like this video is a neat way to present information with a quick modern history lesson. I also love the fact that many of the video games I grew up on are featured in this...😀
@Reliken6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing; could you make a follow-up video explaining the similar differences between the SNES and Genesis?
@steve_cdh73244 жыл бұрын
4:29 can i get a video of just that bass line there please
@RGAndromeda3 жыл бұрын
So glad I found your channel. Everything is explained so well and I've already learned pleanty. Looking forward to going through the rest of these videos soon.
@AndiKravljaca8 жыл бұрын
I had one of those Casios... Man the hours of monophony I put into that one. Thanks for the memories!!
@Ugotsta5 жыл бұрын
I remember that Casio well too, used to love hearing it play Greensleeves.
@vwestlife9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for featuring "Guitar Slinger"... one of my favorite MOD songs! :-) One curiosity in early computer sound was Atari's use of a two-track head on their cassette recorder, allowing programs on tape to play pre-recorded voice and music through the computer's audio output while program data was loading from the tape. This allowed a rudimentary form of voice-guided programs, such as learning a foreign language, years before natural-sounding voice synthesis or sampling became practical. Example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCrfn2jYs-Vjs0
@The8BitGuy9 жыл бұрын
+vwestlife I didn't know that.. Unfortunately, I don't have any Atari stuff other than the 2600. I've always wanted some of the 8-bits, though.
@Mochibunno9 жыл бұрын
+vwestlife My absolute favorite MODs are from Elwood, take a listen to "DEADLOCK.XM", "hours.xm", "elw-hom2.xm" or "experience.xm", you can easily find them @ the mod archive
@SyntheToonz9 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy The Atari 8-bit computers have four voices, with a variety of waveforms, ability to link channels for 16-bit sound, filters, variable clocks. The voices also have a volume-only mode to play digital samples (which requires CPU time.) Its pretty easy to see how Jay Miner evolved that into the 4 voices of DMA-driven sample playback on the Amiga.
@vwestlife9 жыл бұрын
Ken Jennings And considering that the Atari 8-bit computer platform was introduced in 1978 and yet was seen as very competitive with the C64 from 1982, it was way ahead of its time.
@LockeNarshe5 жыл бұрын
I just want to stop and say that I usually skim these kinds of videos because the hosts presenting them tend to ramble off-topic or tries so hard to make it entertaining that it derives from the video - but this has had me glued to the screen. I came with the intention of watching 1 video and watched upwards of 8 in a row. Fantastic presentation, fun information and extremely digestible; definitely earned a sub from me.
@SjoerdTheDev9 жыл бұрын
How about MIDI files aren't these old?
@The8BitGuy9 жыл бұрын
+sjoerd dal Not really.. MIDI files are still in use today and they really don't have much to do with the way sound is produced. They just contain the information of what keys are pressed, how hard, etc. But it is up to whatever synthesizer it is played on to determine how the sound is made.
@SjoerdTheDev9 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy I did not know that. I tought MIDI files where the same because my old keyboard can play them too.
@GTXDash9 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy I was gonna suggest that you do a video on something like: Whats the difference between Gravis Ultrasound, Soundblaster, Roland LAPC-I/MT-32 and GS Wavetable methods of making music. But then I realised you renamed your channel to The 8-Bit Guy, so...are you only able to do 8-bit related stuff only?
@8BitKeys9 жыл бұрын
+Dash My content will not change from what it has been the last 3 years. I just wanted a name that didn't focus on iBooks since that is not something I will feature very often any more. You can only make so many videos about iBooks until you run out of content. I certainly won't be restricting my content to 8-bit stuff.
@GTXDash9 жыл бұрын
8-Bit Keys Awesome :)
@aprev0392 жыл бұрын
One of the most recognizable uses of the 5th voice PCM for the NES is Bloody Tears from Simon’s Quest. That bass line is 🔥
@ZacharySalman5 жыл бұрын
Yamaha's synthesis was so beautiful. I'm a huge fan of the DX7 synthesizer, which can reproduce any sound from those games (most famously the early Sonic games). The actual keyboard is very expensive but there's a free open-source VST version called Dexed that is fantastic.
@Highrollinhunter Жыл бұрын
Same here True Blue by Madonna sounds like it can be in a sonic game on the genesis because the DX7 is just a genesis with keys.
@anthonyspecf5 жыл бұрын
@7:15...Amazingly enough, a new game coming out called Ion Fury (previously Ion Maiden) has an amazing Mod Tracker soundtrack. The game is built on a new version of the old Build Engine game engine (used for Duke3D, Shadow Warrior, etc...). It really fits well with the game's style.
@AlexCBrandon8 жыл бұрын
You've made the video that's been in my head since 1987. And you're in Texas. I owe you lunch.
@LTCloud95 жыл бұрын
Man, I really enjoy no frills, professional feeling videos like this. Educational and interesting.
@missingno41919 жыл бұрын
How did you guys record the different voices on the game M.U.L.E? Or the different voices on other games. Could his be done using ROMs?
@The8BitGuy9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Garza I used an emulator to play the music and thus I could turn on and off specific voices in the emulated sound chip. Then I had to play the song multiple times to get each voice. Then I had to use a different program to get the oscilloscope video, and combine it all together.
@missingno41919 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I checked the current NES emulator I have and it does let me turn off different voices. This will help a lot for sampling so thank you very much. This was extremely helpful!
@The8BitGuy9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Garza I also find it useful when I'm trying to learn how to play the music to retro games on a keyboard. If I turn off all of the voices but one, it makes it easier to hear the notes being played by that voice.
@Exypnos9 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy Sounds time consuming. Bad glad you did it anyways, as I've definitely learned a thing or two from this video.
@missingno41919 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a way to not have to play the game to record sounds. Like jump sounds or other effects without the music overlapping.
@TheBoxyBear6 жыл бұрын
6:08 This is my new ringtone
@SuperBrictson6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for these videos, I just happened to watched "Meet The Little-Known Soundblaster keyboards" n' I liked the fact that watching this video I already heard about Yamaha chip (YM3812 chip) in the Soundblaster video, so the education in this channel is progressive. Even today, Heretic is still my favorite Ad Lib soundtrack, which it was composed by Kevin Schilder. I'm glad to see the mod tracker here 'cause I've always seen videos in youtube about chip tunes in the mod tracker n' never understand them except that they put musical notes in there but with this video, I'm more than familiar with it. You're like the Angry Video Game Nerd but being his department more focused in the quality of videogames with toilet humor and yours in VGM with a more serious tone. You got yourself a subscriber!!!
@LSpiro7 жыл бұрын
6:54: “…designed around the Amiga sound shitter.” I swear I keep hearing this.
@filenotfound__38714 жыл бұрын
4:07 R.I.P SID chip
@kevincruz2904 жыл бұрын
Sid chip 2: I’m about to save this man’s whole career.
@vittoman43924 жыл бұрын
4:29
@filenotfound__38714 жыл бұрын
@@vittoman4392 ?
@vittoman43924 жыл бұрын
@@filenotfound__3871 It's cool 😀
@benwemyss97903 жыл бұрын
I'd heard old school musicians were pulling apart old C64's just to get their hands on an original SID chip. I loved the audio on my C64:)
@LexEllis2 жыл бұрын
I must have watched that part at 5:38 like 20 times, god that sounds SO good.
@sandhamwich21998 жыл бұрын
5:26 I want that picture on my wall.
@thesparxeffect97343 жыл бұрын
This video just made me appreciate game music much more than I already have.
@PaulHofreiter3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Super interesting, knew some of the basics but could have listened to these details all day
@Rolls-Royce4 жыл бұрын
THX you for the high-quality information that is hard to find anywhere on this channel.
@tsuki47373 жыл бұрын
is this a roast
@AmigaX3 жыл бұрын
@@tsuki4737 I think soo
@alternatecheems81453 жыл бұрын
@@AmigaX yes because he just keeps meandering over shit and is really repetitive and uninformative in his other videos
@AmigaX3 жыл бұрын
@@alternatecheems8145 roast!
@alternatecheems81453 жыл бұрын
@@AmigaX yes, roast indeed
@95ZR5805 жыл бұрын
I've never played mule before, shoot, ive never even heard of it, but I rocked out hard with that music sample
@VenomStryker3 жыл бұрын
Try listening to the music from Skate or Die. Was some good tunes in that title!
@stampedetrail20033 жыл бұрын
Nice playing! I had one of those Casio keyboards you had on your wall in subsequent seasons. By the way I was blown away by the Commodore 64 sound playing Ultima IV.
@aboyplays72784 жыл бұрын
6:31 such a catchy tune it’s so 80s I wonder what game that is
More information about Vovol: When the sound has high volume voltage, the speaker membrane is stretched like a guitar string, so that the sound becomes more sharper, realistic and noise-free. This can be achieved by using an equalizer with a preamp. First, all frequencies are lowered, to, for example, -12 decibels. Then you raise it up to +12 decibels, with a preamp. This is how I usually experiment, with vovol, because currently there are no tools, or apps, to do this. If you, or any of you reading this, have an equalizer with a preamp, I think you should try it too. And thank you all for reading! :-) Again, great video!
@stevethepocket8 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just remembered to ask this... how did eight-bit computers do speech synthesis like the famous "Stay a while... stay FOREVER!" in _Impossible Mission_ or SAM on the Apple II GS? Was it just a matter of someone figuring out a combination of square, sawtooth, and "noise" frequencies that sounds close to speech when they're played in the right order?
@DoritoMcDew8 жыл бұрын
Pocket Fluff Productions might of been DCPM.
@punchingplayerpenguin32918 жыл бұрын
Pocket Fluff Productions using an online 8 bit music maker, i synthesized a laugh and some dialogue out of the nes style.
@da5idnz7 жыл бұрын
I typed in a little program for the Commodore=64 once that allowed you to put an audio tape into the Datasette and "record' the sample. Basically what it did was just record a sample based on changes in volume. When the computer played back the sampled file it just turned the volume on and off.
@handwriting88047 жыл бұрын
it was just the computer processing a pre-recorded sound .
@joeygonzalez8837 жыл бұрын
VitinhoCarneiro Rate It Can Play For PC speaker and C64 And Nes 11khz 8khz 7khz 22khz 33khz 44khz Sounds Silmar?
@forfluf9 жыл бұрын
I wish I could understand in detail how my Commode 64 was able to synthesize voice and even text to speech with 3 channels and 4 types of waveforms. It amazes me to this day.
@bytesabre9 жыл бұрын
Technically it didn't use the voices to do that. Programmers managed to get the Commodore 6581 SID chip it used for sound to do a simple form of PCM by exploiting a glitch in it. It doesn't work on later commodore machines that used the later 8580/6582a SID chip as they fixed the glitch.
@forfluf9 жыл бұрын
+Zofe Stormcaller I think I know what that glitch was, I think there was a way to get a positive constant voltage to the audio out and it utilized the 256 levels of volume control to shape the wave. I'd need someone to confirm that tho. That alone should be an awesome video. I had my C64 do all kinds amazing things. First time I heard "Pump up the volume" was sampled for a C64. I heard a crazy tune called "Pif Pof a Gorbachev" and of course the SAM programs.
@bytesabre9 жыл бұрын
+forfluf I can't remember exactly how off the top of my head (I'm at work right now), but I just remember it was something utterly brilliant.
@ericclark97709 жыл бұрын
+forfluf From the WikiPedia article on the SID chip: "Due to imperfect manufacturing technologies of the time and poor separation between the analog and digital parts of the chip, the 6581's output (before the amplifier stage) was always slightly biased from the zero level. By adjusting the amplifier's gain through the main 4-bit volume register, this bias could be modulated as PCM, resulting in a "virtual" fourth channel allowing 4-bit digital sample playback. The glitch was known and used from an early point on, first by Electronic Speech Systems to produce sampled speech in games such as Impossible Mission (1983, Epyx) and Ghostbusters (1984, Activision)."
@forfluf9 жыл бұрын
Eric Clark I remember the 4 bit volume control. It sounded pretty good for 4 bit. Thanks for the info.
@briancherry80884 жыл бұрын
I geeked out when I saw the Casio sampling keyboard. It was one of my favorite Christmas gifts ever!!
@Jigsaw23838 жыл бұрын
NOW THIS is an amazing gaming channel
@PaschanTOPs5 жыл бұрын
More like technology than gaming channel
@lordevyl8317 Жыл бұрын
@@PaschanTOPs Yeah, this is more of a general computer tech channel, not a gaming channel. Unless you're counting David's own games, this channel is more hardware based than software base TBH
@Danger-ff6rk5 жыл бұрын
3:39 my fave part omg
@corkbulb28953 жыл бұрын
Great job recreating the Ultima 6 intro theme on a keyboard! My best friend from high school recreated the Final Fantasy 6 (Final Fantasy III in USA) Overworld Theme using just an Electronic Keyboard in his music class. It took a whole night but he did it and played the MP3 record file and got an A+ in his music class! It is just AMAZING how music has evolved in game consoles over the years and how Certain music can be recreated using other music chips in other devices! Great video! Keep it up!
@Bry100222 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens if the yanny/laurel sound was played on a synthesizer keyboard, what would it sound like?
@rlevitta5 жыл бұрын
I like how you frequently use my favorite NES game - Super Mario 2 - as an example. Yes, I know it's a rework of Doki Doki Panic. I don't care. It's still my favorite.
@jimfowler59305 жыл бұрын
Just "discovered" 8-bit Bach, Mozart, et al, on KZbin. As a classical Cellist, I love the sounds produced in 8-bit!! Great video to you both, and thank you for the education (I sorely lacked!).
@andree19918 жыл бұрын
Can you play more ultima 6 music on that keyboard? That was SICK
@bobbobson40695 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! So professionally produced! You don't have to be nerd to find this interesting!
@goeuldi7 жыл бұрын
So basically, computer music 30 years ago was more complex than today's? I mean, if you think about it, a .mp3 file is just one big sample. w00t!
@SpeedySPCFan6 жыл бұрын
@Walther Penne Professional artists have never really used MIDI files for their music in the same way consumers did - just like today, the files they used were *highly* customized and practically useless if you didn't have the exact same setup they did. Being pre-recorded doesn't really mean much either unless you're listening to the source file yourself, because the music has to be recorded at some point in order to be in a format that's actually shareable. It was like that even in the era of MIDI being used in a professional setting, the only time where raw MIDI files were actually shareable was during the time when standardized MIDI formats became a big thing (General MIDI, Roland GS, Yamaha XG) and amateur musicians were sharing their tunes on the net. Modern music production actually offers even more potential for varied instruments and sounds given that you can load a whole crap ton of VSTs and get tons of synthesizers right at your fingertips for cheap, it's just that certain sounds and genres sell so they always stick to those; if you want variety then you have to look deep outside of the pop scene. Though, many of the popular MIDI centric synths of the time have fallen out of favor so I don't think you'll see a lot of artists who use a Roland JV-1080 on a regular basis. I'm the only person off the top of my head who's still creating music with old 90s Roland and Yamaha MIDI synths...
@leoleonvids5 жыл бұрын
The MP3 compression format is pretty complicated, though... WAV would be a better comparision.
@scottiebones4 жыл бұрын
@Walther Penne it's not lame nor lazy, it's using modern techniques that are simply more effective, it's less time/resource consuming and bottom line is working smarter not harder.
@lainwired39464 жыл бұрын
@@scottiebones I mean, it's MP3... it is LAME 😅 but not bad!