Trackers: The Sound of 16-Bit

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Ahoy

Ahoy

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@uamee
@uamee 3 жыл бұрын
Regular people pirate to spend less money, gopniks pirate to listen to keygen music
@drone6675
@drone6675 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy your music is rad as hell bro! I play it at the shop all the time!
@lobsermahn7262
@lobsermahn7262 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@soulassassin0g
@soulassassin0g 3 жыл бұрын
This is some high quality nahui.
@nikodimov
@nikodimov 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually they start using Sunvox to make their own keygen music
@romefalls.
@romefalls. 3 жыл бұрын
un ko tu te dari, mister latvieti? :D
@bobjones8838
@bobjones8838 3 жыл бұрын
Dude makes a 40 minute video about computer sound interesting then disappears for another 6 months. Legend.
@Robert-tj3jq
@Robert-tj3jq 3 жыл бұрын
> Bursts in to recommendations > Talks about 16 bit music > -Refuses to elaborate- Elaborates a lot > Leaves
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robert-tj3jq Based
@kylegamer48
@kylegamer48 3 жыл бұрын
Soviet Womble has a better upload schedule than Ahoy.
@banzaiking187
@banzaiking187 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylegamer48 ah yes but ahoy here does the research, refinement and review before upload.
@zyriuz2
@zyriuz2 3 жыл бұрын
That's ahoy for you, he is a very talented researcher and video maker that simply puts quality over quantity, making these nicely put videos (in this case it's more closely video-art tbh) takes time and well he just does what he wants and put the schedule and release date to "when it's done" state. Btw if you ask me one particular topic is Seattle as there's tons of great games and pc stuff that originates from there mortal Kombat, duke nukem, Bungie, halo, and just a very interesting history of individuals that simply together shaped the videogame industry and broke new grounds often in the 80s and 90s. It's a broad topic perfectly suited for a ahoy video
@ModernVintageGamer
@ModernVintageGamer 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this video. Amazing work as always
@BenPotts
@BenPotts 3 жыл бұрын
funny seeing you here
@CompleteAnimation
@CompleteAnimation 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know MVG watched Ahoy! You're one of my favorite KZbinrs!
@badasahog
@badasahog 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to know you've discovered Ahoy! You two are brothers in art
@TheTinnin
@TheTinnin 3 жыл бұрын
why did you like this so much? Do you make music?
@nrg753
@nrg753 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTinnin I believe MVG makes all the music for his channel
@realkekz
@realkekz 2 жыл бұрын
You're on a short list of S+ tier KZbinrs with high production value, interesting yet niche content, and a charming aesthetic, never change.
@ZonicCeasor
@ZonicCeasor 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Stu is a cut above a lot of KZbinrs. His content is always quality
@marinellovragovic1207
@marinellovragovic1207 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Posy is on that list. He and Ahoy have way too much in common.
@realkekz
@realkekz 2 жыл бұрын
@@marinellovragovic1207 I was thinking "who is that that name is vaguely familiar" then I found out I was subscribed and remembered who he was, and yes he definitely is
@marinellovragovic1207
@marinellovragovic1207 2 жыл бұрын
@@realkekz Superb based tastes, dude.
@hmmburger8485
@hmmburger8485 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish there were more gaming videos, and less guns...
@pawahara
@pawahara 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is a rare example where the months-long waiting for a new video is absolutely worth it.
@AmericaLexicon
@AmericaLexicon 3 жыл бұрын
Ahoy, Captain Dissolution, Tier-Zoo, Curious Droid are all great.
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmericaLexicon All great names are here.
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmericaLexicon Adding Oversimplified, Lemmino, *Captain Disillusion, CGP Grey, Kurzgesagt, Technology Connections, SmarterEveryDay, Veritasium, Vsauce, Joe Scott, Climate Town, Mark Rober, Coldfusion, RealLifeLore, Ilyx, and Internet Historian to the list
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 3 жыл бұрын
Another example I can think of is accursed farms
@guser436
@guser436 3 жыл бұрын
@@earthling_parth Mark Rober?
@MedlifeCrisis
@MedlifeCrisis 3 жыл бұрын
It is a great day when I find Ahoy has uploaded a new video. The wait in between only makes it sweeter, and the music selection to accompany this video is 👌
@michaeltang6290
@michaeltang6290 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect you here medlife :)
@terminator572
@terminator572 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn't know you also liked Ahoy
@EricHamm
@EricHamm 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. You have great tastes in YT creators. I see you in plenty of comments of videos I have seen. I appreciate your good attitude and helpful nature and just makes this video and comment section so much more wholesome. Cheers!
@MedlifeCrisis
@MedlifeCrisis 3 жыл бұрын
@@terminator572 one of my videos (about ASMR) actually features a little Easter egg tribute to Ahoy ☺️
@terminator572
@terminator572 3 жыл бұрын
@@MedlifeCrisis neat, gonna be on the lookout for it
@ChristianIce
@ChristianIce 3 жыл бұрын
It's safe to say that soundtracker brought me where I am today. If my mom bought me a gaming console instead of an Amiga, my life would have been entirely different.
@hri7566
@hri7566 3 жыл бұрын
i'm jealous
@mattynek2
@mattynek2 3 жыл бұрын
@@hri7566 Who asked tho
@shinren_
@shinren_ 3 жыл бұрын
mind asking you why? was it that you tried doing stuff on it instead of gaming or something?
@Empirism
@Empirism 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinren_ I think he meant more other things than gaming... These tools in this video including soundtracker was not in gaming consoles... atleast in the production like Amiga and C64. Doh well :) Im pretty sure he's life would have been entirely different, If I had had the same thing,my life too.
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinren_ Why yo brain so smooth dude?
@-Rook-
@-Rook- 2 жыл бұрын
I love that VLC still has tracker support, I have an old original collection of tracker music that I have moved from machine to machine over the decades and its nice to have the simple double click ability to play it.
@vosce
@vosce Жыл бұрын
The vetaram foobar too
@vosce
@vosce Жыл бұрын
Trackers are relatively easily file formats to decode. Rendered music files such as MP3 has comprehension, what usually need third party stuff. Trackers must be view like a script accomplished with resouces of a DJ at a given time, not really a audio file.
@android584
@android584 Жыл бұрын
That's good to know, I used to use Winamp to play mod files.
@BringMayFlowers
@BringMayFlowers Жыл бұрын
I use Audacious, a continuation of xmms that's essentially Winamp for FOSS, even uses the same GUI and is skin compatible.
@PEPSIMaxMusic
@PEPSIMaxMusic Жыл бұрын
​@gabriel.epsilon so it's sort of like a Midi
@Full_Egoism
@Full_Egoism 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get back into this gaming history after 6 months!
@bluauber409
@bluauber409 3 жыл бұрын
Next up: RetroAhoy.
@ikagura
@ikagura 3 жыл бұрын
@UCWTgYlza_NGzR1UbMooxHdw what
@momobobo5430
@momobobo5430 3 жыл бұрын
The wait is worth it
@kaptenalex421
@kaptenalex421 3 жыл бұрын
Yes ai like ahoy my opinion is pension but no!
@MedicMain9
@MedicMain9 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluauber409 famous last words
@TheOnjLouis
@TheOnjLouis 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a blind musician that used to write bog-standard, 4-track mod files in Dos using ModEdit in the 90’s and early 2000’s. Still have everything I ever wrote. I loved it and have thought many a time of trying to get back into it. This video was not only nostalgic but also amazing, and absolutely top-notch as all your videos are. I’m grateful for the time you take with your work and appreciate your channel very much. Thank you.
@glowinggrenade
@glowinggrenade 3 жыл бұрын
Do you find that trackers were more accessible than modern DAWS?
@TheOnjLouis
@TheOnjLouis 3 жыл бұрын
@@glowinggrenade Hmm. These days I’m a Logic Pro user, and I get around it fairly easily, but there was something to be said for what basically amounted to a step-based input method. Could lose your place if not paying proper attention, and some of the menus didn’t read very well with my screen-reader of the time, but stuff was doable for the most part. #GoodTimes.
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
respect
@doomerboomer9402
@doomerboomer9402 3 жыл бұрын
how do you type and use the interface if you cant see?
@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere
@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean fully blind or partially/legally blind I imagine using software being ridiculously difficult if someone is fully blind
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 3 жыл бұрын
Things I learned today: -Piracy has a pretty banger soundtrack.
@MorbidMindedManiac
@MorbidMindedManiac 3 жыл бұрын
Things I learned today: -Piracy is banger
@chillhour6155
@chillhour6155 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mIned a Razor ost to be honest
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's a lot better than hearing "Yo ho ho ho the pirate's life for me" ad nauseam...
@JMDAmigaMusic
@JMDAmigaMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickfifteen Mirror hacker? ;)
@IgnatRemizov
@IgnatRemizov 3 жыл бұрын
Pirates always did have the best shanties :)
@Felice_Enellen
@Felice_Enellen Жыл бұрын
A LOT of the modern game industry's senior people started out in the demoscene. During my own industry tenure, it was crazy how many people I met & worked with who wrote the demos, cracks, or early games that I had downloaded for my C64, Amiga, then PC. It was basically the era when there was no major commercial competition and anyone with a home computer could be the first to write something and have it go viral on SneakerNet or later FidoNet. Amazing times.
@AlexCBrandon
@AlexCBrandon 3 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely glorious history of MODs. Thank you so much for creating it.
@Baegus
@Baegus 3 жыл бұрын
We got a legend in the comment section! Jazz Jackrabbit 2 soundtrack is something I still listen to from time to time. ❤️
@MarcSola7
@MarcSola7 3 жыл бұрын
And THANK YOU Alexander for being part of this history with your contributions to the tracker scene, especially Unreal.
@elblanco5
@elblanco5 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Nice to see you here! Glad to see you made it in the industry. The demoscene (particularly the DC/Baltimore area scene) was always too small for you. It's been a pleasure to watch you hit gaming hard with what you have.
@Dann0r
@Dann0r 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you here Mr Brandon! Huge fan of your music. Your work on the Unreal soundtrack in particular was incredible and helped make the game so atmospheric and memorable. I still go back and listen to it often, almost 25 years later. I learnt about trackers a few years later and was fascinated to see how you built those tracks!
@commandhat
@commandhat 3 жыл бұрын
*fangirl freaking out noises*
@pedro.camacho
@pedro.camacho 3 жыл бұрын
My love for trackers is infinite. My father died shortly after hearing my first original song in Amiga with OctaMED Proaround 1990, when I was 11 or so. I often wonder what he would say now but, I am still glad he heard and loved my first one. I still have a small notebook, handcrafted in school, where I placed all tracker commands. I had around 20 disks filled with my own samples which I mostly ripped from the gamesusing Action Replay-like cartridges... I learned a lot with trackers before going into classical school.
@arnislapsa1619
@arnislapsa1619 3 жыл бұрын
Our hard drive failed and I lost my early FastTracker II works. Dad was really sad about that. I still punch some tunes here and there. Spinning Bitwig nowadays.
@FrogFWK
@FrogFWK 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this - it's fun reading these stories today, as tracker music connects ppl over decades, it seems :)
@pedro.camacho
@pedro.camacho 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrogFWK I just had to share it. It's been with me for so many years and this video deserved it.
@FrogFWK
@FrogFWK 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedro.camacho Absolutely. Did you do the Witcher 3 soundtrack? I lovit. Yes, production quality is great here. And it's worth reading the comments too, as sometimes there's more than warm memories to be found :) Well, none of my soundtracks did make it into this video, but one of our Demos did at 14:39 (it's called demons are forever from 1988). What made me smile was your keeping the sound-disks, as mine are still sitting here on the shelve (9 disks I think), although my amiga is long gone ;) Seems to me, this tracker era really changed some lifes for the better.
@NHSLvlog
@NHSLvlog 3 ай бұрын
Lets be friends brother.
@masterzen258
@masterzen258 3 жыл бұрын
"Why does pirate software has such amazing soundtrack" What a fantastic way to start
@shableep
@shableep Жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving such love to such a niche topic. I kind of can’t believe there’s such an insanely high quality documentary like this on the subject of trackers. I was tracking music back in 1997 using Mod Plug Tracker on my PC and to this day I write game music. There’s so much history here I didn’t know about. Thanks for the VERY unexpected nostalgia trip and giving to anyone else with curiosity such a deep history and appreciation for this niche craft.
@charliesnark6535
@charliesnark6535 Жыл бұрын
Any tracks from games that you've made music for that you're particularly proud of?
@benjaminshields9421
@benjaminshields9421 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Ahoy can take something I know nothing about and make me finish a 45 minute video on it
@maiyusakiryu7498
@maiyusakiryu7498 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW!!I T WAS OVER SO QUICK AND IT DIDN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE NEARLY 50 MINUTES! THIS GAVE ME A NEW LOVE FOR TRACKER MUSIC AND HEIGHTENED LOVE FOR CHIPTUNE!! FAMITRACKER, MEGA DRIVE, (genesis) SC-55, (midi/MS-DOS/doom 1993) SID, (commodore 64) AND ALL OLD COMPUTING MUSIC IN GENERAL!!!
@Zenzuke
@Zenzuke 3 жыл бұрын
There's one very important thing trackers had that you didn't mention... The format the songs were in was open by design, so if you could play it, you could also see how it was done and pillage their samples and instruments. That was an incredible learning tool.
@doom_cough
@doom_cough 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It's how most us learned by digging deep into tracks to see how things were done. Still learning new tricks 20 years later.
@AA-gl1dr
@AA-gl1dr Жыл бұрын
Collaborative art is the best
@zaadworks
@zaadworks Жыл бұрын
now with AI generative art, some people are following the same steps, generated image has metadata that you can dig in and learn how it was made
@katagonn
@katagonn 4 ай бұрын
@@zaadworks trackers will always be better than AI though :)
@MarkusKaarlonenMusic
@MarkusKaarlonenMusic 3 жыл бұрын
A big thanks for featuring Space Debris in the video, I'm honored to be included! ☺️ A great history lesson, there was some stuff from the early days of trackers I didn't even know / remember. - Captain
@stefansynths
@stefansynths 3 жыл бұрын
Space Debris has always stuck with me as an incredible piece! Just yesterday I was grabbing the Ares soundtrack off my old mac so I could use some drum samples on my modular synth. I copied Space Debris too while I was at it. What's the connection to the mac game by the same name? Was it written for the game? Did you develop it?
@edstar83
@edstar83 3 жыл бұрын
Amiga was ahead of its time. And so was your music. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpnRia2Le6-hnLM
@icestar65
@icestar65 3 жыл бұрын
I listened to Space Debris for many hours when I was a kid when it was included (probably without license) in Macintosh game of the same name. The game wasn't much, but that sound kept me hooked for hours. Thanks for the amazing track and defining my current taste in music!
@surject
@surject 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU!
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 3 жыл бұрын
Had my hands in the air when I heard the first notes :D One of the earliest MODs I recall digging a LOT (and do to this day).
@Neptune0404
@Neptune0404 2 жыл бұрын
I love how for so many of these videos I have next to no previous interest, nor any previous knowledge, yet straight away I'm hooked, and at no point am I confused. They take full advantage of the niece nature of delving deep into a topic like this, which makes it such a fun learning experience. They are incredibly well made and are so incredibly fun to watch.
@tedjohansen1634
@tedjohansen1634 Жыл бұрын
Ahoy is an absolute magician!
@Lyra_ciel
@Lyra_ciel 3 жыл бұрын
00:00 Kenet & Rez - Unreal Super Hero 3 00:49 Walkman - Let's Hear My Baby 01:28 Bill Williams - Alley Cat 02:00 David Whittaker - Speedball (Atari ST) 03:07 POW - Wonderful Life 04:19 Fred / La Marque Jaune - The Sign Of The Death 06:17 Deluxe Music Construction Set - Bach Fugue in G Minor 06:40 Chris Huelsbeck - Shades 08:41 Karsten Obarski - Amegas 10:28 Karsten Obarski - Crystal Hammer 12:08 Comrade J - Fairlight 12:46 Mahoney - Ghost 13:09 Horace Wimp - Running Water 13:24 Karsten Obarski - Telephone 14:02 Diz - Unit 5 14:53 Uncle Tom - Occ San Geen 16:00 Banana - Echoing 17:12 Luxor - Cousin's Song 18:14 Chip - Ghost of Parallax 19:20 Mahoney - Sleepwalk 20:13 Dr. Awesome - Moongazer 20:44 Jesper Kyd - Global Trash 3 v2 21:16 Jogeir Liljedahl - Overture 21:25 Jester - Stardust Memories 21:36 Lizardking - LK's Doskpop 21:56 Mel O Dee - Scales of Joy 22:20 4mat - L.F.F. 23:01 4mat - Anarchy Menu 1 23:15 Zap - Killing Denise 24:04 Brian Johnston - Hired Guns Main Theme 25:26 U4ia - Take a Trip From Me 26:44 Captain - Space Debris 27:49 Zak McKraken (PC Speaker Theme) 28:37 George Stone - CANYON.MID 29:34 Purple Motion - Future Brain 29:59 Necros - Point of Depature 30:54 Purple Motion - UnreaL ][ 32:01 Elwood - Dead Lock 32:44 Chris Jarvis/Analogue - Blue Flame 33:28 Robyn Miller - Myst Theme 34:26 Robert A. Allen - Epic Pinball (Title) 35:25 Alexander Brandon - Flight Castle 35:51 Michael van den Bos - Foregone Destruction 37:50 Fluidvolt - The Gusts of Aeolus 38:29 X-Ceed/Scope - Voyager 39:16 Hoffman - Eon
@Bartnick81
@Bartnick81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed you could find all these bar one
@Lord_Revan
@Lord_Revan 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE HERO I NEEDED. THANK YOU.
@dlvnmedia
@dlvnmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Necros is a good friend of mine - he still uses trackers even using them in the albums he did with synth pop band Iris - which he used to great effect.
@blissfu_lee8522
@blissfu_lee8522 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Hina
@U4iaF8
@U4iaF8 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just told my son to be quiet for 40 minutes whilst I am walked through a wonderful history of my past musical adventures and computer crashes. Great piece of documentary work. And thanks for featuring my work "U4ia - Take A Trip From Me". Makes me feel all fuzzy and warm to know I was part of history. Cheers.
@commandhat
@commandhat 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like your track was miscredited - It's listed in the video description as "U4ia - Take a Trip From Me". Edit: Commenter updated his comment to change the song name. S'all good now.
@robertraymond762
@robertraymond762 3 жыл бұрын
Mind your son, fella.
@fuzion_mixer
@fuzion_mixer 3 жыл бұрын
hey man, i actually wanted to inform u about ur song being featured in this video...but seems u got here before i do so heheh
@uros.u.novakovic
@uros.u.novakovic 3 жыл бұрын
The pure joy one feels when Ahoy uploads a clip
@GraemeGunn
@GraemeGunn 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right???
@yuyureishinoshojo
@yuyureishinoshojo 3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY
@renatocfrancisco
@renatocfrancisco 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeahhhhh
@TemkaUwU
@TemkaUwU 3 жыл бұрын
Godly feeling
@daviddavis1322
@daviddavis1322 3 жыл бұрын
All the feelings at once
@zeddash
@zeddash Жыл бұрын
I'm working on a game and it uses a tracker because I can make it adapt to the game perfectly, I can stretch and squeeze without distortion and branch the music when the scene changes. Levels have their own tempo and so when you go to the next level the tempo shifts and if the shift is too much for a particular song it will insert a bridge and move to another song with a closer tempo. Also there are a collection of songs for the menu which then get bridged into level songs when you enter a level. Everything is constructed in a huge Markov chain (everything seamlessly transitions, no hard starts or stops, and single songs can be played continuously while not being completely repetative) with links being dependent on scenes and triggers, it's so much easier to construct using trackers than audio files.
@TimothyJesionowski
@TimothyJesionowski Жыл бұрын
Any info about the game? I'd love to see how that works, because as a programmer it's not quite obvious and sounds really bloody cool.
@ihaveagoddamnplanarthur
@ihaveagoddamnplanarthur Жыл бұрын
so something like IMUSE from the secret of monkey island?
@demonindenim
@demonindenim Жыл бұрын
i'd love to see what you made!
@juim1080
@juim1080 Жыл бұрын
Thats so cool, it makes me want to buy and play your game!
@chaoticsystem2211
@chaoticsystem2211 2 күн бұрын
i really miss that in gamess...
@Fanaticalight
@Fanaticalight 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved 8-bit and 16-bit sounds and soundtracks in pretty much anything, as well as the amount of variety that exists in the world of trackers and demoscenes. Even though I don't know a whole lot of what goes on, seeing Ahoy make a video on this taught me a lot more than what I had previously thought went on in the scene. The best part is it still is a bit of a starting point that leaves a lot more room to discover should the person want to learn more about trackers as well! Beautiful representation as always Ahoy! Keep up the amazing work!
@clankplusm
@clankplusm 3 жыл бұрын
Is this comment visually dimmer on mobile for anyone else or is it just me
@leonardofranzinribeiro4220
@leonardofranzinribeiro4220 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in that part near the end, our guy pretty much handed us a roadmap to learn more about anything in the video.
@BLiu1
@BLiu1 3 жыл бұрын
@@clankplusm might just be you
@bassbusterx
@bassbusterx 3 жыл бұрын
16-bit is such a timeless and nostalgic style for us. A testament of this is how even today, almost 40 years later, we still widely enjoy 16-bit and even 8-bit music
@ikagura
@ikagura 3 жыл бұрын
What about 32/64 bits?
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikagura not old enough yet.
@ikagura
@ikagura 3 жыл бұрын
@@KingLich451 How? Even the 128-bits era is 20 years old already. Actually I'd take more indie game taking cues from 32/64 or even early 128 bits instead of rehashing 8-bits nostalgia again.
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikagura i dont know honestly, i wouldnt mind those
@CrimsonCrossFire88
@CrimsonCrossFire88 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back man!, looking forward to next year.
@betr8
@betr8 3 жыл бұрын
How is this 2 days ago?
@TsunamisKid
@TsunamisKid 3 жыл бұрын
@@betr8 he pre-ordered
@betr8
@betr8 3 жыл бұрын
@@TsunamisKid lmao
@heet6612
@heet6612 3 жыл бұрын
@@betr8 I guess patreon
@OtterFlys
@OtterFlys 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Damn, I miss that Amiga so bad..
@BartechTV
@BartechTV 3 жыл бұрын
19:24 - The Silents, the group who released NoiseTracker, went on to become DICE, the developers of the Battlefront games and Mirror's Edge.
@jackmio
@jackmio 2 жыл бұрын
@@PieterPeter-ud7wf the one they shit on recently
@hongkyang7107
@hongkyang7107 2 жыл бұрын
@@PieterPeter-ud7wf This joke became less funny as time when on, let me tell ya, or funnier depend on how you look at it.
@gamechip06
@gamechip06 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh yikes
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: DICE's past has been brought up before on RetroAhoy. Which episode was it?
@override7486
@override7486 Жыл бұрын
@@alaeriia01 Pinball Dreams obviously.
@RaptureMusicOfficial
@RaptureMusicOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video and documentary! I'm a tracker musician from the PC-Demoscene. I've started with Fasttracker 2 in mid 90s, and then Milkytracker on the PC. I made game music which is based on Milky XM tracker files, like Mission in Snowdriftland by Nintendo. The game gets an update and re-release on Kickstarter at the moment! Musical greetings, Rapture
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@AsteroidWrangler
@AsteroidWrangler 3 жыл бұрын
It's an absolute mindblow on my part to realize that I Created Disco is all tracker music. That album was an absolute JAM when I was a student DJ. Went back and damn is that sound unmistakable to me now. As always, an amazing video Ahoy.
@pkaulf
@pkaulf 3 жыл бұрын
In this case OctaMED was only used to sequence an Akai sampler, but the tracker soul is in there.
@AsteroidWrangler
@AsteroidWrangler 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkaulf Huh, ok. That's really interesting to know. Thanks for adding more context to this revelation on my part, I really appreciate it.
@wirehack7
@wirehack7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was part of the Demoscene long years ago. This video just gets it on point. Please keep making videos on the style of this. Awesome!
@smilespray
@smilespray 3 жыл бұрын
This brought me back to my days as an Amiga tracker artist. You also mentioned several of my friends. Thanks!
@coscorrodrift
@coscorrodrift 3 жыл бұрын
What do you do now? Are you still making music in some way or another or is that a hobby of the past?
@ARTala88
@ARTala88 3 жыл бұрын
Nice too know
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 3 жыл бұрын
It’s still going strong with beautiful custom made music like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/moGqc2aKpq57jKs
@ludoviajante
@ludoviajante 3 жыл бұрын
Your work is simply amazing and unique. You are an inspiration to anyone who creates videos on the internet. Much love from Brazil!
@johnsmith-ir1ne
@johnsmith-ir1ne 3 жыл бұрын
Huehuehuehue Gibe moni plox
@Handicaptain
@Handicaptain 3 жыл бұрын
Hello random man I have decided I love you
@luancarlosoliveira5128
@luancarlosoliveira5128 3 жыл бұрын
É sempre bom encontrar um criador nos comentários de outro criador
@DerAua
@DerAua 3 жыл бұрын
Also he put a list of all the music used in the description...!! 😍
@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 3 жыл бұрын
Sudden Brasileiro out of nowhere Sempre adorei seu conteúdo, nunca pare por favor
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 жыл бұрын
As a software engineer and a fan of many genres of music including electronica, this is absolutely fascinating. By the time I started programming, Windows 3.0 already existed (we couldn't afford a computer before the 90s), so I never had to deal with direct hardware access except for the occasional fight to get a game to run in DOS with whatever video card our computer had. Even though I've written assembly code before, it's hard to imagine such primitive conditions being the _only_ option for getting anything done. It makes me strangely nostalgic for a time I never truly experienced firsthand, when it was amazing just to successfully use computer for any purpose at all. Things are so very different in 2021, 30 years after my family got our first computer.
@a5cent
@a5cent Жыл бұрын
You would have been a perfect fit! You have the spirit that drove the hyper creativity in the demo scene.
@TheCrazyStudent
@TheCrazyStudent Жыл бұрын
The production quality of the videos on this channel is in my opinion far superior than the average KZbin video. Thank you for all the great effort in creating these documentaries.
@ZicoTops
@ZicoTops 3 жыл бұрын
¡Gracias!
@beesinpyjamas9617
@beesinpyjamas9617 3 жыл бұрын
this videos defenitely the most deserving of the first paid comment ive ever seen
@IgnatRemizov
@IgnatRemizov 3 жыл бұрын
@@beesinpyjamas9617 I didn't even know that paid comments were a thing!
@ivrgn1720
@ivrgn1720 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't know this.
@flyingstonemon3564
@flyingstonemon3564 3 жыл бұрын
@@beesinpyjamas9617 It's my first time I see one too, good video for It
@dlfon99
@dlfon99 3 жыл бұрын
@@chyza2012 someone saying "thank you" is hardly advertising. Adverts have something to sell you on; paid comments like these are a way for people to actually help creators on a platform that largely does not give a shit for the people who make content like this. If you do, however, see a paid comment trying to sell something (which I suspect will be rare) feel free to report it as spam like the rest of us. Until then: grow up, and quit complaining about the people who are willing to chip in to projects they care about.
@Indigo_Gaming
@Indigo_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Inspirational as always! I remember the first time I popped open a .MOD file to see how one game dev managed to make their music files so small and without the use of .MID files, I was stunned at the sheer creativity and complexity of the medium. This just puts all of that into context!
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 3 жыл бұрын
boring checkmark comment pushed to the top by rigged comment section again
@Ttegegg
@Ttegegg 3 жыл бұрын
The bottom comment section will not be suppressed
@thewiirocks
@thewiirocks 3 жыл бұрын
A friend gave me three MOD files and the trackers to run them. AxelF, AllThatSheWants, and GirlFromIpenema. I remember opening AxelF first and jamming out to the sounds of Beverly Hills Cop. Sounded WAY better than any MIDI file I'd ever heard. Then I opened up AllThatSheWants and heard... vocals? As in, actual voice samples?!? I killed the program and checked. The file was small. Small enough to fit on the floppy along with the other two songs and the trackers. Absolutely *blew my mind* that a song that sounded like it came off the radio was playing on my computer.
@roygalaasen
@roygalaasen 3 жыл бұрын
My first experience with trackers was the ultimate sound tracker itself. I remember it crashing for no reason at all and it was an incredibly steep learning curve before I finally found out how to load a song because it was so finicky to use. It did not save mods at all. When I got a tracker that could save mods, I kept saving as songs still, because of space issues. I eventually started to save as mods so that is the only songs that I made that I can actually faithfully listen to. The other songs I don’t have the instrument disks any more, so it is a bit more challenging to recreate those songs, but I did some research on them once. I think the songs have the exact same structure as mods, except the sample part at the end is cut off. They are also compressed, but it is not hard to find the algorithm in any of the tracker source codes.
@roygalaasen
@roygalaasen 3 жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien just out of curiosity, could you explain why this is a problem. I see comments from modern vintage gamer and medlife crisis in here as well. Please inform an ignorant me. Edit: I noticed the next comment indicating that it suppressed other people’s viewpoints. I have personally not found that to be a problem. Maybe if you only read the first 5 comments.
@hackerx7329
@hackerx7329 3 жыл бұрын
There are areas where tracker music still has a HUGE advantage over prerecorded music. You can have the music be reactive to the game in a variety of ways. Turning on and off channels, panning individual channels instead of an entire recording, have different patterns to be switched to for a more dramatic or calmer version of the exact same song, triggering different note effects depending on in game environments, the ability to change the tempo of the music without pitch shifting anything, and I'm sure there are more examples. And all of that with a single file instead of multiple prerecorded tracks or audio tracks on a disc that may have required a split second of buffering or loading time. The access times aren't a big deal now with SSDs but boy did that make a difference for a long time. Because of the relatively small file sizes it also meant you could have a LOT more music in a lot of games that had space constraints or compared to a CD where audio took up a whole lot more space than a tracker file.
@vincelang3779
@vincelang3779 3 жыл бұрын
Is that how the music for NO ONE LIVES FOREVER works? I'm still amazed how it morphs tempo as you play . . .
@hackerx7329
@hackerx7329 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincelang3779 No. It was actually split into several files. It was MIDI but with custom instrument sounds stored in a separate file.
@jamesbulick1897
@jamesbulick1897 3 жыл бұрын
Would doom 2016s soundtrack count as an example?
@Alxasaurus
@Alxasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Why this reminds me of Harmonix's "Chroma"? They made multiplayer FPS games whose background music reacts to gameplay, because they store music in MIDI format and lets the game engine play the MIDI files. Maybe with Tracker format they could make the background music more reactive than ever... alas Chroma was mothballed indefinitely.
@defaultname25
@defaultname25 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbulick1897 mick Gordon came to mind straight away
@StellariumSound
@StellariumSound 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this and seeing the parallels to how modern DAWs are designed is fucking awesome.
@Stereozentrum
@Stereozentrum Жыл бұрын
You would be suprised to find out that the first version of Cubase is actually from 1989 with a lot of the key features of a modern DAW and the kind of music presented in this video could be done much more easily and faster with a sequencer software such as Cubase. It's a shame (and an obvious flaw) that he didn't mention this at all.
@Meganaut
@Meganaut 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing the Tracker scene a HUGE justice, my dude. Here I thought I knew almost everything about the Tracker scene but boy was I wrong. Really informative video and an awesome tribute to one of the most under-appreciated scenes in computer history. Keep it up!
@ANDSENS
@ANDSENS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by the level of detail on the artwork for the faces of the coders (6:48) and by the sheer number of different screencaptures required to make this video happen! Also: "VLC has support for a wide range of tracker formats". I want to say I'm surprised... but at this point I would barely raise an eyebrow if astronomers dropped a file on it containing samples of the cosmic microwave background radiation only to be greeted with a video of the first few seconds of the big bang.
@wellwell5483
@wellwell5483 3 жыл бұрын
Goat of players
@BrightSpark
@BrightSpark 3 жыл бұрын
It's like the SFW equivalent of Rule 34: If it exists, VLC can play it.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrightSpark unless it's on bluray, because heaven forbid you be able to play this disk you bought
@Iwantapplez109
@Iwantapplez109 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewparker9276 unless it's from the seas :)
@roland_the_cursor
@roland_the_cursor 9 ай бұрын
I was so glad to see Follin on here.
@cyrillemiller8798
@cyrillemiller8798 3 жыл бұрын
He’s back! Liked the video before listening to it, Ahoy never disappoints anyway. The quality is just insane
@SkyFly19853
@SkyFly19853 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I liked it before it started!
@ErichZann13
@ErichZann13 3 жыл бұрын
same here...same here...=)
@madeintaiwon6533
@madeintaiwon6533 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I shared it to friends before watching it
@badermanone
@badermanone 3 жыл бұрын
The quality is beyond insanity :)
@cide241
@cide241 2 жыл бұрын
Weird how nobody pointed out that the early PopCap games (Bejeweled, Dynomite, etc) OSTs were made by Skaven of Future Crew and there exist the dumped files of the musical suites of these games online if you know how to find them! Beyond The Network is Bejeweled's but I forgot the rest.
@Ribeanie
@Ribeanie Жыл бұрын
Insaniquarium!
@colinouille2786
@colinouille2786 Жыл бұрын
thats sick as hell
@matthieucneude5761
@matthieucneude5761 Жыл бұрын
It explains why I played Dynomite so much... loved the music!
@sodaodaoda
@sodaodaoda Жыл бұрын
Hamsterball's OST is also made by Skaven, great stuff! I have the dumped files on my phone
@EpicTkoWko
@EpicTkoWko Жыл бұрын
@@sodaodaoda to this day hamsterball has one of my absolute favorite soundtracks to anything, there’s just such a unique feel to it skaven’s work no matter what game it was for was incredible
@agitat0r
@agitat0r 3 жыл бұрын
26:45 hearing Space Debris again after almost 30 years playing it on repeat in Digitrakker hit me like a nostalgia bomb. I ripped that tune apart, it was basically my intro to making music with computers. I'm almost in tears. Lovely video!
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome episode mate, thanks for making it :) .
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey
@mungojerrie86
@mungojerrie86 3 жыл бұрын
Where review.jpg
@amigaman2305
@amigaman2305 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! who knew old keyboard mate was into such things.
@kingacastus8915
@kingacastus8915 3 жыл бұрын
Holy heck it's Chyros! Thinking of it, makes sense that the music was so good, they had some great keyboards back then!
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 3 жыл бұрын
That ZX Spectrum mention at the beginning was an instant reminder.
@saxxonpike
@saxxonpike 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo I wrote music for the Reloaded cracktro at 0:34, thanks for featuring it hahaha Edit: now that I've watched through the rest of it, excellent presentation! It's good to see something so graphically exciting also this well researched. The world of trackers is so much more varied than covered here, but I think you've given folks a good starting point if they want to know more.
@mars1683
@mars1683 3 жыл бұрын
very talented lol
@NeroWolf42
@NeroWolf42 3 жыл бұрын
this dude is the bomb when it comes to retry game documentary's your music is pretty good btw
@l4dfanatic11
@l4dfanatic11 3 жыл бұрын
haha ive heard that song various times before!!! its really nice :D
@parttime6506
@parttime6506 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly nostalgic for me, thank you
@VarenvelDarakus
@VarenvelDarakus 3 жыл бұрын
Nice:) I heard this track few times before , good work:)
@marek_vybiral
@marek_vybiral Жыл бұрын
I'm blown away by the quality of this video!
@exploitedmind
@exploitedmind 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who spent countless hours tinkering with more "modern" trackers in my high school days, this video is easily my favorite ever posted by this channel. Getting a comprehensive background into the history and scene is quite a treat. Absolutely ace content, man.
@ulti-mantis
@ulti-mantis 3 жыл бұрын
One area where trackers continued used in a more "mainstream" context well beyond the 90s were the Nintendo handhelds. The DS still used it for most soundtracks. Even the earlier disc-based home consoles still used a lot of tracker music with pretty high quality samples
@j.a.8224
@j.a.8224 3 жыл бұрын
Which makes sense, the SNES used tracker style music (the only limitation being the tiny RAM profile for the DSP contained all the sounds and samples, thus they were rather compressed), and that continued to the N64 due to storage and memory size limitations. The GBA and DS used the same, because a lot of it was ports and they had small memory profiles so streaming audio while doable was trickier in the 4mb of ram for a DS (and limited often to say videos). Trackers have always been compact files and kept their use on systems with tiny profiles and some sound processing but no MIDI synth chip.
@Tehstroyer
@Tehstroyer 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, earlier phone games as well. Multiple demoscene musicians found their paycheck niche there. For example, Alexander Brandon and Peter Hajba composed for the Bejeweled games.
@seronymus
@seronymus 3 жыл бұрын
@@CerealKiller your comment makes me want a midi keyboard
@milk_bath
@milk_bath 3 жыл бұрын
Modern hardware trackers are very fun. Check out the Polyend Tracker, Dirtywave M8 Tracker, and all of Elektron’s instruments are tracker based.
@rvnx
@rvnx 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really call things like SF2/USF tracker music. It's more akin to MIDI with a custom soundfont in the way it allows to have a central file for samples and then have small file for the actual composition.
@modyphantom
@modyphantom 3 жыл бұрын
This man's content is a masterpiece. He should have like 10 million subscribers at least!
@Blank-js3zt
@Blank-js3zt 3 жыл бұрын
ye
@tito12star
@tito12star 3 жыл бұрын
Let make it happen!
@miroslavzima8856
@miroslavzima8856 3 жыл бұрын
@Thaddeus Cosse You are right, but the depth and enjoyment is top notch!
@botplays6893
@botplays6893 3 жыл бұрын
100% 100 million
@MassimoRough
@MassimoRough 3 жыл бұрын
Then share this video on your social media. Make an impact, not words.
@PsylightFF
@PsylightFF 2 жыл бұрын
If I hadn't found Scream Tracker 3 on a BBS when I was a lad, I would never have considered that music was something I'd ever create. For years I spent hours at a time making tunes on Impulse Tracker. I still have a huge collection of module files that I converted to MP3 and listen to regularly. Ahoy, you brought a tear to my eye with this video. Fantastic job!
@TheChromieHomie
@TheChromieHomie 3 жыл бұрын
It's so wild to see the extreme evolution of ahoys content. I remember watching the MW2 guides and now we're here 11 years later with documentary level production
@bearmatic
@bearmatic 3 жыл бұрын
As an user of Noisetracker 1 and 2 on the Amiga, and later Fasttracker II for DOS, this was an incredible history lesson. Back then, we just used whatever version we could get from a friend of a friend. This comprehensive overview was extremely interesting. Thank you for your incredible works on all your videos. Far apart, but damn the quality is worth the wait to put it mildly. No other KZbin channel can comprise all my interests with such immaculate quality.
@TERPormf
@TERPormf 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that this is one of my favorite videos you’ve done so far. I’m actually blown away by all the new things I’ve learned from it and have an even greater appreciation for the Amiga now.
@arctic215
@arctic215 3 жыл бұрын
1 day?
@betr8
@betr8 3 жыл бұрын
1 day ago in nov19 ?
@IngoPagels
@IngoPagels 3 жыл бұрын
@@arctic215 yehr. lol. was 50 seconds live and got 99 comments. I guess he uploaded it, set it on private and has a small review by a core audience.
@mauz791
@mauz791 3 жыл бұрын
@@arctic215 patreon supporter
@Jesse.Dangerously
@Jesse.Dangerously 2 жыл бұрын
This was super nostalgic, thanks for making it! ST3 and IT were my entries into making sample-based hip-hop in the early 90s, pushing the limits of my soundblaster 16 and later my gravis ultrasound to loop, chop, and arrange samples from vinyl in extremely limited resources. I only know a small number of other people who worked this way - it was really hard to integrate into the demoscene because the files were huge by module standards, and everyone was using BBSes at 14.4K when we started and 56K when we stopped. Plus it wasn't as flashy as having dozens of individual notes triggering and modulating, except when we used offset interpolation to invent the earliest version of pitch-independent timestretching I know of. Just mentioning this here in case anyone who views this video finds it an interesting footnote. All of the music on my first four albums (1997-2004) was made in Impulse Tracker 2.15, with stems bounced out using MODplug and mixed in a friend's basement on more current software at the time. I still have dozens of modules of beats I started in the 90s and early 00s that I draw from and recreate in new software today.
@OmarFW
@OmarFW 3 жыл бұрын
Tracker music arguably is what made me fall in love with gaming and PCs in general. Unreal Tournament's soundtrack was all tracker based and it immediately sucked me into another world. I had never heard anything like it.
@robcall4551
@robcall4551 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah, I used to load them up in fast tracker and borrow the instruments.
@Domarius64
@Domarius64 3 жыл бұрын
I still listen to that soundtrack, and all the unreal series. The composer has a distinct style, I can only describe as atmospheric and fantasy Sci-fi. It does take you to another fantasy place.
@pseudonayme7717
@pseudonayme7717 3 жыл бұрын
'Excellent!'😄
@pseudonayme7717
@pseudonayme7717 3 жыл бұрын
@@Domarius64 Agree. The soundtrack from Speedball 2 was similar in style and also excellent
@GuilhermeSouza-tm4ud
@GuilhermeSouza-tm4ud 3 жыл бұрын
@@Domarius64 Not only that, but theres a reason Foregone Destruction is so memorable, it really fits so well on the Facing Worlds map that its crazy. The unsettling calm vibe from the start while you watch the earth from a distance is a experience I still waiting to be replicated, it fits too well, only to the track pick up in intensity while you battle for the flags that most of the time replicated the game motion so well. That map brings me memories. UT99 dont get a fraction of the recognition it deserves for that OST.
@VideoGameAnimationStudy
@VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 жыл бұрын
1:29 - ALLEY CAT! My god that took me back before I even realised what I was listening to.
@MR-vj8dn
@MR-vj8dn 3 жыл бұрын
Took me a few seconds but I recognised it too 😃
@omengaming9391
@omengaming9391 3 жыл бұрын
@@MR-vj8dn Same, took me a little at first to recognize the music, and I used to love playing Alley Cat, bit later though, late 80's, 89/90'ish
3 жыл бұрын
OMG! My brain triggered on that too! That brought me back to 1990s when playing on mom's work PC :)
@karakenio
@karakenio 3 жыл бұрын
took me zero seconds, haha
@MR-vj8dn
@MR-vj8dn 3 жыл бұрын
@@karakenio Awesome 😊
@Audiojack_
@Audiojack_ 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing and hearing "Second Reality" still makes me shiver. Greetings from Finland.
@Jaaxfo
@Jaaxfo Ай бұрын
@16:00 This is it! I've looked for this tracker song for so long! It came with my old SB AWE32 with its MS DOS software pack. I've wanted to find it for so, so long and didn't even know what to look for because I was a child when last heard it
@MauLerYT
@MauLerYT 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when you upload, sir.
@gueton5200
@gueton5200 3 жыл бұрын
oh hey look it's the longman
@YumiCakes
@YumiCakes 3 жыл бұрын
The thought of the longman himself fangirling over Ahoy like the rest of us makes me giggle.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good YEAR when the man uploads.
@batmangovno
@batmangovno 3 жыл бұрын
He covered a whole topic in 40 minutes, so I hope you came here to learn
@Critical_Hit
@Critical_Hit 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey it’s you. The objective reviewer. Will you do a 5 hour response stream to the video?
@KC-bg1th
@KC-bg1th 3 жыл бұрын
About 9 years ago I begged LHS Chiptunes (guy that makes Reloaded crack themes) to remix one of my songs, and he did. I thought it was as simple as providing him a .midi, and he'd be able to quickly make it sound chiptune. I was obviously ignorant, but he still did it for me. To this day I respect him and love his music more than any other artist. I hope he gets more recognition through this video; I strongly suggest everybody to give LHS Chiptunes Palace Walls a listen. It's quite possibly one of the best chiptune songs in existence.
@cannedbeverage7687
@cannedbeverage7687 3 жыл бұрын
"makes Reloaded crack themes" as in present tense? Pretty sure there haven't been any new games with RLD's name slapped on them in years
@KC-bg1th
@KC-bg1th 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannedbeverage7687 Hahaha, yeah I'm not too sure. I haven't torrented since my last computer, so 5+ years ago? Even then the game I torrented might have been older. But yeah, he isn't very active and even 9 years ago he wasn't. If you look up LHS Chiptunes Reloaded installer, you'll see whenever his last Reloaded crack theme was.
@Drozerix
@Drozerix 3 жыл бұрын
39:03 "In essence, trackers are a performance -- it's the sound of 16-bit." very well put! I agree :)
@ShizukanaEntertainment
@ShizukanaEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
"Bergsmätaren lever" by Mattis has to be one of my all time favourite tracker tunes. So much good music came out from these tools, but this one stands out.
@GYTCommnts
@GYTCommnts 2 жыл бұрын
You may like my enhanced version of that masterpiece, then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWbEmqiEicplmLM Hope you enjoy. 😉
@ShizukanaEntertainment
@ShizukanaEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@GYTCommnts Thanks! I've listened to that one many times as well. It's great! However, nothing beats the original. :)
@GYTCommnts
@GYTCommnts 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShizukanaEntertainment Of course! It's just an enhanced version, not even a Remix. The original is the work of art here. 😉
@andyjohnson4907
@andyjohnson4907 3 жыл бұрын
Not in a million years would I think that I'd want to watch a video about the music from the demos before my pirated Amiga games when I was eight. But here we are. Great job as usual.
@jefftheworld
@jefftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched and well produced! Particularly great to see small, but important details like the true origin of the term "chiptune" put in. I've been a follower of your channel for quite a while so to see a video pop up on a topic which I'm quite familiar with like this was very exciting and I think you did a fantastic job!
@az09letters92
@az09letters92 3 жыл бұрын
This. As someone who lived that era as a scener, I can confirm this video was *very* accurate on all counts.
@chefnerd
@chefnerd 3 жыл бұрын
As a 90ies kid - this kind of music has a special place in my heart. Thank you for the trip down the memory lane
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker 3 жыл бұрын
Even developers outside of the Amiga were in on the tracker music action. I loved Shadow Wraith, Souls in the Sytem, and Candy Crisis on the Mac, Tempest 2000 on the Jaguar and Iridion 3D in the Game Boy Advance all used tracker music. That was a great era for computer music!
@mikaeldk5700
@mikaeldk5700 7 ай бұрын
This is a real "Why did I first discover this fantastic channel now?"-channel. I am really impressed by all the footage, all the knowledge, how well it is presented... Instant subscribe.
@metfan4l
@metfan4l 3 жыл бұрын
*HE'S BACK*
@grlt23
@grlt23 3 жыл бұрын
He is alive?!!
@Aletheides01
@Aletheides01 3 жыл бұрын
Is it the same person though? The voice sounds not at all like in the earlier videos on this channel? Is it a voice actor/narrator? Or is it just me :D
@OverCoat
@OverCoat 3 жыл бұрын
I may have known almost everything in the video already, but I still watched the whole thing with a big smile on my face :). I still listen to those old mod files almost every day, and I use Renoise exclusively these days to make my own music. The demoscene and modscene are an important part of computer history to me that I want to help share and keep alive, and this video is a well-made introduction to what that's all about.
@solwogan5356
@solwogan5356 3 жыл бұрын
Sup, SOC :)
@OverCoat
@OverCoat 3 жыл бұрын
haha omg hi Sol
@seronymus
@seronymus 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sad that I'm only 23 and never got to get into all this beautiful scene, or really experience too much of the old internet/old computers. :c
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
@@seronymus me too, at least we have these great videos to show us tje way
@OverCoat
@OverCoat 3 жыл бұрын
It's never too late! There are still demoparties out there, even if a lot of the big ones mostly converted to LAN parties. Any compo category can always use more entries!
@janoznl
@janoznl 3 жыл бұрын
Great video that brought back a lot of memories. I do have a little addition though. A big advantage of using tracker music in Unreal was the ability to seamlessly change the type of music based on what was happening, making the soundtrack much more dynamic and immersive.
@trwijbenga
@trwijbenga 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@ville_syrjala
@ville_syrjala 3 жыл бұрын
The dynamic music changes in Unreal always impressed me. The MIDI based counterpart that comes to mind is Lucasfilm's iMUSE system, used to great effect on classics such as TIE Fighter. It was a truly sad day when simple CD audio became the norm in games.
@the8thark
@the8thark 3 жыл бұрын
This concept first appeared in Monkey Island 2 via the iMuse technology. Though after that it became quite widespread and many games incorporated this concept into their games. Even to this very day. A good example of a modern game incorporating this concept is DOOM Eternal, famous for not having a traditional soundtrack, just parts that seamlessly changed depending in what the player was doing and where the player was. Infamously Bethesda (and others) edited these parts into a soundtrack that could be commercially sold. This angered Mick Gordon (Sound composer for the game) and allegedly he vowed to never work on a DOOM game again because of this.
@ricky2k3_
@ricky2k3_ 5 ай бұрын
Although I have been born in 2003, I was (and still are) fascinated by how old computers did stuff, from graphics to audio - and learning about the Amiga, trackers, MIDI and so on has basically molded the way I do some stuff or perceive it. I like all of this retro computing gizmos, I watch demos all the time, either emulated or, if possible, on hardware. This video just fulfills that need to know more about the past of computing. Brings me back to an era I'd wish could live in. Thanks for the video, amazing production and great telling.
@RhoTrepaan
@RhoTrepaan 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived through almost everything here. Still, to see it in a documentary like this is awesome
@Fixxate
@Fixxate 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't lived through most of this but it's still pretty damn cool!
@vanprax
@vanprax 2 жыл бұрын
I was never in the Amiga scene I was a PC guy being in the US but I do still remember the first time I saw Future Crew demos. Late 90s I was absolutely obsessed with the sound and demos of the time. Many late nights spent with a lot of these trackers still brings back wonderful memories.
@nateb4630
@nateb4630 3 жыл бұрын
One more cool feature, which you aaaallllmost touched on at the end by likening mod playback to a "performance", is that the player software had a bit of control over the music too! In some players at least, the user can turn individual channels on and off, like a real-time "remix" that simply wouldn't be possible if the whole tune was pre-rendered to a monolithic stream. It's handy for stuff like picking out morse code hidden in the music, because you can just isolate that part so it's easier to pick out. And completely absent but I think very important, is pattern looping. You showed how a song can be pattern 1-2-3-2-3-4 for instance, but being able to seamlessly loop 1-2-3-2-3-2-3- for as long as you're in the menu, and then break the loop and let 3 transition to 4 which nicely wraps the menu song as the game loads, isn't possible with any other format that I'm aware of. And of course, better players give you this control too, so you can disable looping and just hear 1-2-3-4 once through, or turn it on for a while and turn it back off, or reveal "hidden patterns" that the author left in, knowing they'd only be heard by people with players (or trackers) capable of manipulating the patterns. So a given piece might go 1-2-3-7 if played normally, but if you turn off jumps while listening to 3, you can hear 4-5-6 as well, the little easter egg in the music. I think these are generally referred to as "hidden subsongs". Beyond that, a single module can include a bunch of subsongs but only store the sample data once, so for instance 1-2-3-2-3-4 might be the menu, 5-6-7-6-7 might be the main gameplay, and 8-2-9-3-2-9-3-10 might be the high score screen, reusing some of the riffs from earlier. This takes up very little disk space since the samples tend to be quite large compared to the note data in the patterns themselves.
@MotorGoblin
@MotorGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
The great thing about trackers is the unique workflow (with all its limitations) that makes you come up with different kind of music that you'd normally produce. One reason to use them in the 90s was that PCs were pretty terrible at recording multitrack demos. This meant that a lot of song-writers used trackers to sketch out their songs even when they would later record it "properly". Many people also used trackers to create drum tracks for their otherwise traditional recordings. So trackers had a lot of impact in many genres that aren't typically associated with them.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 3 жыл бұрын
I got into trackers in the late 90's and used them to create backing tracks for my guitar playing. Although I eventually abandoned trackers for that purpose, I still have fond memories of the countless hours I spent programming music with them.
@soulwynd
@soulwynd Жыл бұрын
A lot of my teenage years were spent in front of FT2 composing music, or in an asm decompiler. Thanks for making such a nice video about the old scene.
@rorychivers8769
@rorychivers8769 3 жыл бұрын
When you were dismissing the usefulness of trackers in comparison to CD audio, you missed one crucial and arguably unique advantage: When a CD track is finally rendered, it can never ever change, it is static, it plays back the exact same way on all devices. Sounds like a great advantage right? So what happens when you want to incorporate dynamic music in your game that responds to the state of play ? That's right, you have to re-invent a "Tracker" like setup to break your music into chunks that can be assembled dynamically. That alone makes statically recorded music an evolutionary dead end, as far as computer games are concerned.
@MadsterV
@MadsterV 3 жыл бұрын
yup, tracker-style music is VERY useful in making incidental music for games
@PrekiFromPoland
@PrekiFromPoland 3 жыл бұрын
The people behind Unreal Engine 1.0 understood this and both Unreal itself and Deus Ex, among other UEngine games, heavily utilize this feature of modules. You can use these same samples to compose a soothing ambient song and a frantic combat track in one file and switch between these on the fly via playback from a chosen pattern. Having the song loop at a certain point (ie. after the intro is over) is also useful for games.
@marksmithcollins
@marksmithcollins 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft thought that, and created DirectMusic as nextrunner of DirectSound. As you know, it failed unknown. Gamers didn't want sophisticated low resolution(generated in their machine) sound rather than high quality prerecorded sound. Future sound generation might be more neural and procedural, not assemblic.
@marksmithcollins
@marksmithcollins 3 жыл бұрын
Change of mood needs transition, not reconstruction.
@tiggerbiggo
@tiggerbiggo 3 жыл бұрын
@@marksmithcollins Modern computers are more than powerful enough to fully generate high quality audio in real time. This has nothing to do with a tradeoff of quality AT ALL.
@JeroenTel
@JeroenTel 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing indepth document about what we as "sceners" and us as early composers for games, demos and mentioned cracktros on all mentioned platforms lived through. It is fun to see it analysed in historic perspective. Thanks for this! 🙂
@hongkyang7107
@hongkyang7107 2 жыл бұрын
Because of this video that I discovered you have .XM library that equally great to your C64 tunes. Thank you for your works.
@doom_cough
@doom_cough 2 жыл бұрын
*Waves* ha! ;)
@twitchykun
@twitchykun Жыл бұрын
Bro the RoboCop 3 NES theme still lives rent-free in my head to this day.
@fredfredburgeryes123
@fredfredburgeryes123 3 жыл бұрын
Got actual goosebumps when I saw Second Reality show up! My father had some association with Future Crew at the time, and it's crazy to think that that demo was as major as it was. I always thought it was just a cool video with cooler music. Thanks for bringing niche subjects like this into the light, mod music deserves every bit of attention it can get.
@wallyhackenslacker
@wallyhackenslacker 3 жыл бұрын
It must have been amazing being in the demoscene around that time! Future Crew were truly a bunch of John Carmack level geniuses to manage to get something as technically incredible as Second Reality to function in MS-DOS PC's at all. From Fabien Sanglard's blog, iirc Second Reality actually emulates an Amiga sound chip (the PAULA) in order to sound as good as it does.
@thewiirocks
@thewiirocks 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a computer running Second Reality at the Midwest Gaming Classic convention a few weeks ago. Really hit me in the feels to see it again. My friends and I just marveled over the demo back in the day. Incredible music, scaling, rotation, distortions, and even 3d graphics! And let's not forget the _piece de la resistance_ - what appeared to be a real-time raytracing scene complete with reflections! Just amazing stuff.
@roygalaasen
@roygalaasen 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this demo being the turning point where I was willing to acknowledge that PC was about to take over from the Amiga regarding capabilities.
@spaalonebabaguuscooties
@spaalonebabaguuscooties 2 жыл бұрын
this is just by far the best channel on youtube by such a huge margin it's not even a competition. love this channel so much
@superscatboy
@superscatboy 3 жыл бұрын
I used a Octamed for years, even did most of my GSCE Music coursework with it. It was absolutely awesome. These days, despite having a fancy DAW setup, I still play with Renoise frequently, and use Deflemask to make music for the Megadrive. Trackers will always have a very special place in my heart.
@skoalsniper006
@skoalsniper006 3 жыл бұрын
Man 11 years and this channel went from a call of duty gun channel to a channel that gives awesome videos that are very informative. Content uploads may be few and far in between but the quality hasn't changed. And I will happily click on a video the next time one pops up. Keep up the great work Ahoy!
@NestorCustodio
@NestorCustodio 3 жыл бұрын
Unreal Tournament is still the best possible representation of what mid-90's PC gaming sounded like. A phenomenal soundtrack indeed.
@Q36BN
@Q36BN 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this was extremely informative and done in such a professional way with good narration. This could easily air on TV as a professional documentary.... Ps. "You killed me" with that Jesper Kyd info. I first heard his music in a Hitman and immediately fell in love with it, and wanted to know who is the composer.. and now i know a little bit of history there.
@MortRotu
@MortRotu 3 жыл бұрын
Ahoy has graced us with another absolute diamond of computing history. Loved every second and had completely forgotten that DE had its origins in the Unreal franchise. They might be an interesting company to do a bio-pic of in the future
@flippedoutkyrii
@flippedoutkyrii 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER rad touch with the computer displaying all the info upgrading to newer tech as the timeline goes on! ;) Hell of a video! I guess this explains why all those trainers I used to download back in the late 00's had such rad music!
@squillz8310
@squillz8310 3 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite part of this project was hearing the music evolve throughout the video. That was really cool.
@colinbrown7947
@colinbrown7947 2 жыл бұрын
fearofdark is certainly my favorite current tracker musician, absolutely incredible what they're making
@RussellRRocke
@RussellRRocke 2 жыл бұрын
Motorway is one of my favs of his
@labfire8964
@labfire8964 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure fearofdark is the one of the best because not only does he introduce a lot of people to tracker music but he’s usually the only tracker musician people listen to
@georckbread3403
@georckbread3403 2 жыл бұрын
@@labfire8964 fr. fod got me into using famitracker
@labfire8964
@labfire8964 2 жыл бұрын
@@georckbread3403 Same never thought I’d be making music on a tracker that emulates famicon/nes music
@mariokingplayer7497
@mariokingplayer7497 Жыл бұрын
couldnt have said it better myself brother
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango 3 жыл бұрын
Your graphic of the 5 composers/programmers at 6:48 is the best thing I've seen all week
@SlyBac0nNZ
@SlyBac0nNZ 3 жыл бұрын
I love UT 1999's soundtrack. Ever since my dad showed me it in 2012 I fell in love with the game and the music sounds like nothing else, so I encourage anyone to give the game a try.
@Kruzhh
@Kruzhh 3 жыл бұрын
I played it non-stop when I was a kid! The sounds are so nostalgic to me now
@Brissles
@Brissles 3 жыл бұрын
I code to it all the time.
@bradcavanagh3092
@bradcavanagh3092 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that might have been worth adding is that the most widely-used audio library/middleware for games - Fmod - started out as a module player in the demoscene.
@onceonly1111
@onceonly1111 2 жыл бұрын
I played so many apogee games on a PC with 1 bit sound, so it blew my mind years later to discover that they had MUSIC and that sometimes the characters would actually SPEAK.
@MidnightBlueMetallic
@MidnightBlueMetallic 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! ScreamTracker 3 and "Point of Departure" by Necros. I was surprised to see this one playing as you introduced ST3 (as it is still a favorite to this day). Impulse Tracker was the clear upgrade to ST3. What a time and not many probably know existed unless you were there. Five Musicians, Kosmic, NOiSE (New Objectives in Sound Exploration), etc.. there was so much talent in this scene.
@actionvestadventure
@actionvestadventure 3 жыл бұрын
Love NOiSE and KFMF, still have a lot of their stuff.
@JeroenvanOmme
@JeroenvanOmme 3 жыл бұрын
I remember soldering my own soundcard (just looked it up, it was a Covox; some resistors and a parallel port) so I could listen to tracker music. What a change to the PC speaker :-)
@override7486
@override7486 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a soundcard, more like a DAC.
@zulupox
@zulupox 2 жыл бұрын
I made one too! Then I used screamtracker on my 10Mhz pc to make music. That computer was too slow to t playback the samples correctly... so I got a different sound out of that computer than others :)
@jlewwis1995
@jlewwis1995 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss finally a big youtuber covering trackers, they are some of my favorite kinds of daws especially when it comes to chiptunes which makes sense considering that's pretty much what they're made for especially there days with the likes of famitracker deflemask LSDJ etc though obviously you could get more fancy and use VSTS in openmpt or renoise or be in the middle and go purely sample based like milkytracker or protracker or impulse tracker, there are even super niche trackers like a tracker for specifically making music for earthbound rom hacks for example or trackers that can output general midi files instead of modules
@BurleyBoar
@BurleyBoar Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. As a teen growing up in rural remote Oregon USA I was downloading these things on 1200 baud modem waiting for a local BBS to swap in a compilation CD with mods, trackers, and demos on certain nights on my family's 386. At points it was fun to shout out what was coming next in your video. The filling in of my gaps of knowledge with your great video was very entertaining. My and my few friends watching second reality were floored by it. We could not communicate this with others. It's nice to know we were not alone all these years later.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 3 жыл бұрын
16 bit musics are so good! I'm so happy whenever Ahoy uploaded, even though he only uploads a year once 😂
@rzr82
@rzr82 3 жыл бұрын
I knew hitting the bell on this channel would pay off once again! Thank you so much for this delightful retrospective. As an FT2 user myself back in the day, this was complete nostalgia overload for me. I still have all my modules from back then, and I hope I will always be able to play them in their original format.
@itsmeurboi
@itsmeurboi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be re-watching this one for years to come, absolute masterpiece!
@kajmak
@kajmak Жыл бұрын
reminding you for your annual re-watch
@itsmeurboi
@itsmeurboi Жыл бұрын
@@kajmak Holy fuck its been 12 months... Well i know what im doing tonight!
@Edwin-ts4kj
@Edwin-ts4kj 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a hidden gem on youtube for everybody with nostalgic feeling for retro pc gaming. I really enjoyed this high quality documentary and will definately watch it again!
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