ADV NEWS JUNE 2024 | 2025 YAMAHA TENERE 700 | KTM 390 ADVENTURE | KTM 990 ADVENTURE R

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Welcome to another episode for June 2024. We have spy shots of the Yamaha Tenere 700 for 2025. KTM has been caught out testing their 390 adventure and 990 adventure R. Also it looks like automatic transmissions on motorcycles is the next big thing with Yamaha, BMW and KTM getting into the game recently.
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[@martinharris8645]

A WR350R or WR500R is what we want from Yamaha, 135kg wet. A T700 is 205kg, so it’s like carrying a passenger everywhere you ride. And good luck lifting it back up if you venture off the blacktop.

[@gregducati999]

if aprilia could do a 550 twin cylinder enduro / adv bike that weight about 135 wet 20 years ago I dont see why its so hard for other manfucatures to do now

[@IRLtrolls]

Yes. I want a WR500R and I also want Kawasaki to make a Versy X 500 with the new Ninja 500 engine. 21/18 wheels and a good suspension on a small 500cc twin cylinder adv bike would sell very well but Kawi won’t do it because it will kill the KLR sales

[@thelonewolf666]

poor ktm are so confused, they dont know how many ccs to focus on 390, 690, 890 990 1090 1190 1290 1390 1890 v8 v12 v16, poor old ktm

[@glennboy66]

If the 2025 390 isn't 21/18 and lighter with top spec suspension Im buying the cfmoto 450MT. Auto pfft who cares, no thanks

[@CbassGSX400S]

I think you will be in good company...

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

I was thinking about the CF Moto 450 but at 430lbs is a bit heavy given the size and power. I would prefer the Honda CB500 which has a much bigger dealer network and greater reliability. The CF Moto is compelling but there is nothing to gain really, except for the lower price but at the cost of limited dealer network.

[@lonecoyote5454]

@@Vallecaucanisimo Same here and thats why I hope the Ktm Adventure will be close to 50 lbs less than the 450MT, with more tech and performance.

[@georgemorissette8856]

I have allot of bikes and I like the 19 front , 17 rear for a gravel road , super twisty pavement bike. It’s like a semi supermoto . It rips. I prefer it over my 21” front bikes unless I am doing really rough technical off-road stuff.

[@kai-uweoch1159]

Right now KTM should put all energy in getting their camshaft problem of the 790/890/990 sorted out and offer a VERY generous handling of that problem (= for free) for their customers, instead of just making things bigger. Informed customers, who know about this serious engine problem, will not buy a 990 as long as this is not solved and might even run over to the competition.

[@gabrielkopp2036]

Great info solid.. but i am getting so tired of yamaha not listening to their customers and only their big donors. We want a wr250r replacement not 10 different t7s I'm seriously considering get rid of my wr250r and washing my hands from yamaha..

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

Even with 19/17 wheels, the 390 adventure looks awesome. I just hope it’s light enough and packed with features like the previous model. The CF Moto 450 is a bit disappointing given its weight, and not longer a contender. It would be nice if the KTM comes with bigger wheels but not a deal breaker imo.

[@jaygrafton3048]

Not only have we had issues getting our hands on the T7 in the USA - we only got one version of it! That and the fact that the WR250R is gone and no 300cc replacement has me saying goodbye to Yamaha. They have abandoned us so I am done with them. As an average American blue collar worker I could stretch the budget a little and afford to buy BMW think: 1150, F650, F800, and X Challenge. They now have priced themselves beyond mine and almost all of the people I ride with. The 310 was a poor attempt to bring guys like me back. My current stable includes a Gen 3 KLR - cheap and capable, a CRF Rally, CT125 Trail, and early 80s BMW R80 so no newer BMW and no Yamaha. 2 years ago I would have bought a T7 no question now I do not see it happening.

[@Justen1980]

Yamaha has a factory in France that produces a lot more Teneres than the Japan plant where USA and many other places get their bikes which is why Europe gets so many options

[@2wheels.are.better.than4]

Solid, I think someone noticed throttle by wire on the T7 spy shots, which could mean cruise control. 🎉

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Nice😎

[@FluxExplorer]

That 990 had me so excited til I learned it was another parallel twin. Save the V’s! KTM needs a 390 Adv with 21/18, non-cheapened-out suspension, and minimal electronic bs. Home run motorcycle.

[@CbassGSX400S]

Another great video, appreciate the updates as always! - also... the erzberg "rodayo"? come on... :P

[@algee8228]

Getting a bit worried about the weight on the 2025 390 ADV/Enduro. My limited time on the 2017 CRF250 Rally that I picked up recently, compared with my 250EXCF, has me really realizing that for the type of dualsport riding I would want to do on the 390, weight is super important. Would definitely opt for the lighter Enduro R version for starters, but even that if its much above ~350 lbs (160kg) I will have to think twice. Might make me upgrade from the 250 Rally to a 300, perhaps the KLX300, to keep the weight reasonable and still get moderate performance. Thanks for the update Solid!!

[@karlipopsch4288]

KTM got. to deliver on the 390 front, also Honda and Yamaha.Else I’ll Go CFMOTO

[@rondoltomer]

As a 2021 890r owner I can say there is a massive issue with camshaft failure. Mine died after 28,000km, and I paid EUR 2,000 to fix them.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Unlucky 🙁

[@rondoltomer]

@@chroniclesofsolid from owners I know it is about 20% with the failure and 80% who don't check thier engine

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

@@chroniclesofsolidNot unlucky. That’s become the norm for KTM. It’s the price we pay for performance. I’ve owned several KTM’s and currently ride a 23 701. Every single one of them has had nagging problems that KTM refuses to resolve. We put up with it because their bikes, while running, just perform better. so wish Japan would make a bike like the 701 or a lighter more dirt worthy Transalp. The Tenere is close to being the Unicorn but is too heavy. Still waiting and riding.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Must be really frustrating for you guys. Especially when KTM leaves you hanging 🙁

[@mickleblade]

So a KTM 990 is now a middleweight?

[@beejoutbush3322]

thought the same thing....

[@InternetzVideoz]

A liter bike is not a middleweight.

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

A new division like boxing , Super Middleweight or Light Heavyweight .......

[@gasdive]

We're in the most ridiculous timeline

[@KentwoodWarrior]

What a joke

[@davidmathers1141]

You may have heard of the CCM GP450. A single cylinder 21/18 wheel size proper off road bike but with long range capabilities - 20l tank - made by a small company based in England. Stopped building it in 2018. They put a price tag of between £8k and £12k on it and they sold every one they could build. Even today used ones are being sold for between £3kand £5k. So I reckon a big manufacturer version of same will do very well. BTW I have ridden approx 12k miles on the CCM.

[@kai-uweoch1159]

I owned one of the first CCM 450 GP adventures which were produce (serial number 41 if I recall correctly) and it was one of three sold here in Sweden. All three of them had serious reliability problems, mainly with the electric system. I sold mine back to the dealer after three or four years, very frustrated and far below what I had paid and invested. Had it only been reliable - the concept of a 450cc 40 hp 150kg 400km adventure bike was brilliant. And as you said: they all sold out and production was only stopped because they could not get it Euro5 updated. Now if just one of the big Japanese manufacturers would come up with something similar, minus the reliability problems!

[@davidmathers1141]

@@kai-uweoch1159 I do remember all the problems you had with yours. I bought 2 and while there were some problems, nothing that detracted from the unique riding experience. It probably helped that I live only 20 minutes from the factory. By the way, like you I now own a Norden - the Expedition version. Brilliant machine.

[@Liberty4Ever]

The variants of the KTM 390 Adventure look interesting, but it could have been better if greater changes could have been made to cut the weight (more aluminum, less steel?), at a higher cost of course. Even at the existing 390 weight, more off road would be more better.

[@FluxExplorer]

That 990 had me so excited til I learned it was another parallel twin. Save the V’s!

[@TyB_23]

390 Enduro 21/18 with cruise control and better ground clearance. Please and thank you so much

[@Warerdog24]

I would only be interested in a 390 adventure with a 21 in spoked front wheel . Hopefully they will also address the riding position issue . The currant model is off somehow . Demo one just did not like the feel . I have my finders cross this could my solution for smaller bike . Thanks for the update.

[@yorkchris10]

I watched a press release of the Norden X in South Africa and thought it handled everything quite well - including a low side on a gravel road. I would have thought there would have been a number of users that would've liked the overall handling - especially given the tall suspension.

[@magnusenamd]

I don't like KTM and the fact that they can't release the 590 2 cylinder 270 degree is super stupid for me. 490 not interesting as 275cc per cylinder or more is the minimum if you want a drivable engine from low to medium revs. But KTM is also allergic to things that run well in the engine. 390 and 990 is uninteresting.

[@Fiatmannen1]

So were is kawi in all this? A new versys 500x with 19 17 or 21 18 would be something. As for auto they already have it on the hybrid, just imagine a versy with 21 18 , auto and a reverse!

[@TRAVERSE_ADV]

The KTM cam issue is actually an issue with oil galleries in the head and there is supposedly a redesigned head now.

[@abritablondeabike]

Cross fingers for a good 390 adventure. 😊

[@davidcauchi2837]

Thanks for another informative video; I do have a laugh when you say a 900+ cc bike is a Mid Range! Maybe I am old school. Mid Range to me was 600cc to 800cc. A 900cc is a dick short of a 1,000cc engine...that is a big bike... OK safe travels. David...Adelaide....Triumph Scrambler 1200 a big bike....LOL....

[@chroniclesofsolid]

I am laughing on the inside as well David. These middle weights are as big as the old flagships but the flagships are super tankers now 😅

[@davidcauchi2837]

@@chroniclesofsolid Exactly! Well said...LOL

[@arnoldtm31]

Camshaft issues are with the 19 to 22 790 and 890 models. 2023 onwards both models have revised internals.

[@slug.racing]

Revised to do what .. provide new and improved issues.. KTM owners are a joke that keeps on giving.. 20 years I been hearing..oh new model has a fix .. yeah right

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

@@slug.racingWell, I don’t consider myself a joke but have to agree with your evaluation of KTM.

[@matiasem4510]

Nope, there are reports of '23 owners with cam wear too.

[@miro_s]

Deffo not true. Problems persist with 2024 models

[@Essaiem]

If they're releasing a updated version of the tenere, will there also be a new world raid?

[@user-sj2nr2jh1u]

390 Adventure R or even Rally please

[@miro_s]

Interesting you refer to the camshaft windwhirl in the 890 world! Seems quite serious, more than just anecdotal. I sold mine as a result. How do you think the 990 would be a way to address the problem without admitting there is a problem? Even if they fix it for the new model, there’d still be a ginormous problem left behind!

[@joshdoddadbod]

Been hearing good things about the cf450mt from people I trust. Will be watching Chinas motorcycle market with great interest. I'm hoping Japan gets their stuff together and starts putting out what we have been asking for for decades now.

[@magnusenamd]

Why would you want a heavy, cylindrical 390 when they can make a 590 with not much more weight. So tired of the manufacturers doing this. Solid should be hired as a product developer by KTM so it will be a hell of an order. 390 KTM like Honda's 300 enduro would be something. But I feel bad just hearing a KTM all the rattling noise and vibrations.

[@Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno]

Does that T7 have a 140 rear?

[@leudwigvonshwartsenhelm3624]

I'm curious if they're gonna do a new Super Tenere! I hope they put the CP3 motor in it! I'd buy it!

[@d0b0b]

No more waiting for KTM. Ordered a 450MT.

[@hiranya0071]

A little baffled with underbelly exhaust on the 390 adventure. I wonder if there'll be any concerns in the water-crossings/water-loggings!!

[@andylewis210]

I wonder if KTM have addressed their atrocious reliability in this new model …..?

[@The333]

Wow, that 990 looks slick...

[@wowfish-ob3ew]

What I would like is an enduro bike that is streetable and comfortable enough to sit on for a slightly longer ride. To me that is an hour or two of blacktop in one sitting and I mean sitting as I have never been comfortable on any bike for over 40min. while sitting. The DRZ400 would be just about right for size, capabilty and max. weight. If it had taller gearing in the 5th and a 6th gear. Service intervals of 5000km would be enough. I have the CFmoto 450MT. I will try and do some over night camping off it in West Oz this spring. My limited time riding it ( 600km ) hasn't quite conviniced me that I will end up keeping it in the long term. At this stage it is not my unicorn bike for what I want. Too bulky and heavy, otherwise great, especially on the road and formed gravel roads/fire breaks. But I still prefer a trail bike style machine. I do have a KTM 2016 350 enduro. More power than I need , light weight and I enjoy the maintenance time as I usually do this as a group with my brother inlaw and nephew. It's our family time.

[@henryvaneyk3769]

There has already been reports of excessive cam wear on the new 990 Dukes also. The new 990 engine is not even close to the quality of the old V-twin 990 engine.

[@samhill3496]

Good vid lots comimg

[@kai-uweoch1159]

PS: RAM air system on an adventure bike? Those bikes are normally used a "moderate" speeds, compared to sports bikes. How much power gain could there probably be?

[@willyd-adv]

Can't wait for you to try the MT450 still, definitely my unicorn Also calling a 990 a middle weight adventure bike is like calling a Ford F150 a small lightweight ute 😂 sorry I'm just being a dick

[@PRodent]

Great video. Not a fan of the little pops every time a new image appears.

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Noted 👍 thanks for the feedback

[@benjy288]

So KTM had a 990 adventurer, then they got rid of it, then they released a 1090, a 1190, a 1290, then they released a 790, then they replaced it with a 890, and now they're going back to the 990? any guesses on how long will it stay a 990 for until they bump it up to a 1090? and then a 1190? and then a 1290? and on and on.

[@deanjohnstone9485]

We're is the 690 adventure r, FFS how hard would that be .

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Doesn’t auto gearbox mean ride by wire is mandatory? Definitely not for the T7 then. Forward intakes speculated for the T7 are probably more geared to feeding dust free air to the filter rather then breathing in its own dust via an under seat feed.

[@henryvaneyk3769]

The new 2025 T7 is reported to use ride by wire across the range.

[@johnpanick6080]

Could the tenere 700 now have the world raid tanks for USA?

[@gasdive]

The thinking of the manufacturers is so misaligned with what we need. I know that they see motorcycles the same way that fishermen see lures. Not what's good for the fish. They just want us to hand over money, and they don't care how much we like the bikes after we've done that any more than the fishermen care how much the fish enjoys the lure after the barb bites home. But still.... Automatic bikes, but they won't put cruise control as standard on their ride by wire bikes? I mean auto might be useful if you've got a disability, or if you want a left hand brake, but for most of us... Why? These are litre bikes. If you're commuting you can just leave it in first or second and never bother changing gears. If you're on the highway, leave it in top and never bother changing gears. The only place you're swapping cogs is sporty riding on a twisting road, which is the last place you want the bike to randomly change gears right on the limit of traction and put you in a ditch. It's utterly useless. But cruise control, that lets you crack out the hundreds of km that the gigantic tanks let you do...no, they're not putting that on though it would cost virtually nothing to add. Just a software update. Insane.

[@gasdive]

@@toqtoq3361 haha, I stand corrected!

[@Max-xr4nl]

I could be wrong, but aren’t the “new” spy shots of the T7 just the old spy shots of the T7 world raid? Even the hidden tank looks like a world raid tank

[@nrd90]

I agree, the tank is really large and it has the same protections as world raid...

[@DisableMe123]

And ram air intake is wrong. On my WR it’s just show plastic. No change on air intake. Only difference i see is the banana formed linkage.

[@Hibbicon]

Even KTM wears Vanucci 😁

[@kjaubrey4816]

Larger bore and longer stroke should provide more torque but lower redline.

[@MrBrowne86]

Shed update?

[@chroniclesofsolid]

Slow, I’m out of funds and currently saving the cash to get power to the shed 🥲

[@lipsee100]

Come on Chronic how about doing something about the CF moto 450MT !!!! I,m awaitin

[@chroniclesofsolid]

On it mate, spoke with them last week and we are currently working out a date to do a test ride 👍 these things take time.

[@slug.racing]

Too heavy too slow. There you go done

[@lipsee100]

@@chroniclesofsolid Great,, I just test rode a benelli TRK 702x,,, its got everything we dislike and nothing we like...

[@appymarley]

Nathan the postman has just done a proper review of the cf moto and he really likes it

[@lipsee100]

@@appymarley yeah I saw that,,,but I like to get more then one view,,there is alot of propaganda on this machine at the moment, and I like to see as many unbiased views as possible..

[@numad7660]

We expect a 390 Enduro with specs comparables to a 400 dualsport from 25 years ago. 140kgs wet / 40hp. Any heavier it will just be laughable.

[@CbassGSX400S]

Agreed... 180 kgs will be a bit disappointing... Especially when a CRF Rally ways 150.

[@jimtitt3571]

No much chance, getting it that light is expensive and it would no longer conform to the A2 licence category for the European and other markets.

[@numad7660]

@@jimtitt3571 The 400 DRZ is A2 here in France and there’s a version of the 690 too. The problem for the 390 enduro is the platform, it’s a road bike.

[@jimtitt3571]

@@numad7660 So what? My son has a Yamaha TDM 900 that is A2 (that's right on the limit for A2). The DR400 has to be restricted to be A2, it weighs 1kg! too much. The weight rule makes a 40hp 140kg wet weight bike impossible as it is max. 0.2kW/kg unladen weight.

[@numad7660]

@@jimtitt3571 I wasn't clear. The weight of the 390 Adventure/enduro comes from the fact that it is based on a road platform. Concerning A2 motorcycles, no problem, just restrict them if they are too light. Certainly it sells less. But yes, it's expensive to develop an off road motorcycle. They build a competitor of the Himalayan 450, not a dualsport. It would still be quite ridiculous if the 390 enduro was heavier than the 690 enduro.

[@unclebuck5051]

Too little, too late. Already bought Rally Pro 1200.

[@kairyurider]

Japan waits lower than usa for the t7. And only gets standard

[@thodoris3790]

This is a world raid tenere

[@wowfish-ob3ew]

I have missed one point on my previous comment. The CFmoto 450MT is probably close to a unicorn ADV bike. I watched a German video and one of the first things he mentioned was the ADV unicorn bike, which wasn't what I was thinking of. Though I should state I have worked out that an adventure bike is not what I really want. I don't ride far enough or travel by bike. If I want long distance comfort I would buy a cheap car! The 450MT is a bike that was a known factor, was coming out and ticked a lot of boxes ( I preordered mine ). The price was good and I really wanted to be able to travel on it. Yes it will do the work trip, blast up the hwy, have enough range and handle off road. So in that sense it is a do all bike.

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

It’s too heavy! 195kg/430lbs is too much.

[@Heraklej]

Kove 800x ftw

[@JustForFun-zh7cy]

990 is a middleweight. Really?

[@monokheros5373]

the joke : drive a manual trasmission its the single best anti theft device on the market used to only apply to 4 wheel vehicles... sad to see that so many new riders are going to have thier bikes stolen while us ole riders are confidently leaving our bikes parked on the side of the road with no anti theft attached... cuz we are confident most cant steal em and those that MIGHT we know...

[@monokheros5373]

1930s: Indian gave em what they asked for Harley gave em what they WANTED took indian what 60 , 70 years to recover from that mistake

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

Ridiculous

[@lachlancannard]

An immobiliser does a better job at preventing theft...

[@lcagle33]

19.17 only way to go for an Adventure bike. 18/21 is for dual sports.

[@KentwoodWarrior]

990 “middleweight” lolz. Nobody wants these massive pigs anymore. A wr350/400r is what the market wants. Or a modern drz400

[@alrightdave6135]

I would never buy a ktm.

[@AussieDazza]

Why not ? I have had zero problems with my Austrian built KTM’s. I cannot comment on the newer Chinese engine made ones.

[@jonrobert5847]

Broken record, again and again.....

[@goatman3828]

That KTM 990 looks like a turd with handlebars. 😂

[@coldfeel]

why the annoying sounds?