Advance Paris A10 vs A12 We’ve built 100 systems with them! Here’s the answer!

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Lenny Florentine

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@WardoUSA Ай бұрын

Finally!!! I have been waiting for a good review of this brand.

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy! We will be doing one for each model individually soon!

@WardoUSA Ай бұрын

@ awesome

@jimcullen2211 13 күн бұрын

I use my Advance Paris A10 Classic with my Klipsch Forte IVs. It drives the Klipsch speakers plenty. I am super satisfied (finally) with my system.

@LennyFlorentine 13 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing Jim!! That’s exciting to hear, we love the Forte IV’s! Tom’s favorite!

@joeythedime1838 12 күн бұрын

I had an A12. I really liked the sound signature and it does look cool. I didn't like the way you have to go into the menu's to change things like picking between A + B speakers. And, as much as I liked the look the faceplate is plastic and attracts dust and you need to be a bit careful cleaning as it will scratch. The only other things I wish they did was use higher quality knobs and use the same DAC in the A12 that they use in the A10 (AKM DAC). In my hifi journey I went from the Advanced Paris A12 to an Accuphase E-4000. I will say the A12 sounded a bit more powerful in the bass range and was more lively.

@PaulFauteux-i7t Ай бұрын

You don’t even know the product you sell. Then laugh about it. 🤔

@Carl-bd1rf Ай бұрын

Yeah not prudent.

@austinpowers6260 Ай бұрын

Yeah this is pretty terrible. Research the product before you discuss it.

@thomasperina2990 Ай бұрын

Hello Fellow Audiophiles And Friends: Thank you Captain Sub for this video. I personally have never heard of A P in my life. But since Bose purchased Macintosh and Sonus nothing surprises me. I've always wanted a complete Macintosh setup but since it's now under the Bose umbrella that got shot in the Butt. Thank you Lenny, Captain Sub for all you do, God Bless, and stay safe. TMP from N.J. 😊

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

I can’t wait to talk about that! Thanks!

@O.G.LIL-MAN Ай бұрын

Actually there are alot vids on Advance Paris, you just don't watch the right audiophile channels. About 20 of the 50 plus audiophile channels I watch have talked about them over the last 2 years

@annebokma4637 Ай бұрын

Just get the good McIntosh gear, you know the much cheaper genuine products on the used market. Save yourself a fortune while doing it too 😂

@marksydor3108 17 күн бұрын

People dissing the Advance Paris A12, are either lying about ever owning it, or lying about ever listening to it. I did an a/b with an Advance Paris A12, a Hagel H600, and a Unison Research Unico 150, and an Electrocompaniet ECI 6 DX MKII, and to me the Advance Paris A12 sounded the best and it wasnt close. And most of those Amps are almost 3x the price of the the A12. I also was not expecting the A12 to win the shootout either at all (before you say im biased). My next amp will be the A12 no question. Just a bunch of snobs on here tha want to sound all niche but have no clue what they are even talking about. Seriously, don't sleep on the A12. If you have a chance to go listen and compare, you won't regret it.

@VincesBodyShop 13 күн бұрын

What an awesome product I’m gonna put a order in with you guys today on the a12, great video too explains a lot. Keep up the good work guys.

@LennyFlorentine 13 күн бұрын

Thanks!!🙏

@user-rg4xn3ib4c Ай бұрын

So I have watched several videos on Advance Paris amps. Not one of them talks about the sound, just the looks and that concerns me. Has anyone seen a video about the sound, internal parts? Let me know, thanks.

@justasimplefox 28 күн бұрын

I have owned 2 of them, never again 😊

@user-rg4xn3ib4c 28 күн бұрын

@@justasimplefox That's all I need to hear. Something seems fishy when no one talks about SOUND! Thanks.

@justasimplefox 27 күн бұрын

@@user-rg4xn3ib4c Yes they are not very expensive but housing of the case is very thin, cheap components inside, VU meters + lightning look a little cheap, the display from my amp was glued in crooked...some people claim they look like McIntosh, indeed maybe from 20ft away. Sound was underwhelming. In summary, I found zero proudness in owning these.

@EastSide_Motel 20 күн бұрын

@@justasimplefoxcheap audio man YT channel has a couple of vids about the sound

@limitlesssky3050 13 күн бұрын

@@user-rg4xn3ib4cIt sounds very warm, I just did the comparison with Mcintosh c252 with kef r3 meta. The A12 is very warm, and the treble is a bit recess, while the mcintosh is more treble heavy so more detail.

@tyronejohnson6482 Ай бұрын

Dude, I'd like to hear about the SQ compared to other brands! What tubes are used? Watts, vs. SS amps and so forth..

@tda3fjr Ай бұрын

I've been subscribed to your channel for a couple of months now and enjoy the content. Decided to go to your website because you mentioned parasound. I'm trying to decide on components for a system. I'm currently making do with Denon stereo reciever with a pair of Klipsch Cornwall IV. For years I've wanted McIntosh and although I can afford it, I really can't justify the $12K - $15K for what I want. I pretty much settled on a Parasound P6/A21+ combo. Until I saw the AP equipment. Oh, and then there's PrimaLuna as a tube rig. So now I'm at Option Paralysis. I'm thinking i need to call you guys for a conversation/opinion.

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

I think that’s a good idea! We can go a little more in depth on both. Since we have used them with Cornwalls IV’s as well, we can provide real advice on the pairing and what to expect.

@SwampersRC Ай бұрын

I use my roku tv as my streamer. I'm retired and only income is ss/ssi so i can't spend much. My speakers are cerwin vega at12s. I was using an old radio shack 100 watt per channel pa amp (made by pyramid) with no tone controls. The sound is amazing! It was giving me some trouble (which ended up solving itself) so i took a chance on a pyle pda8bu 5 channel reciever. It sounds just as good as the pa! And it plays as loud as the pa with total clarity! The best part is it only costs around $80 delivered! Look it up it might just be the be the bargain of the year! I'm using the at12s and some rca 40-5016 3 way acoustic suspension 8" bookshelf speakers.

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

So great to hear! Those Cerwin AT12s are amazing!

@misterzero8667 Ай бұрын

Because of your age you wouldn't hear much anyway ,system sounds loud and harsh

@annebokma4637 Ай бұрын

@@misterzero8667don't generalize like that. But even if true, be happy when it starts for you, imagine how much you can save eliminating tweeters in your setup 😂

@mr.b4444 25 күн бұрын

First, thanks for the review. I had the Advance Paris A10 running a pair of Magnepan LRS+ with a Rel Tzero MkIII sub. The music source is a Cambridge Audio Azure 851N which I play FLAC files from an SSD. I also have a Rotel CD-11 Tribute CD player. Prior to the Advance Paris A10 I was running an Outlaw Audio RR2160 MkII. I purchased the A10 because the Outlaw seemed to be under powered with LRS+ which are a bit inefficient; however the bass response was good anyway. The Outlaw and the A10 are about the same wattage wise but I have to say that I was a bit disappointed with the A10's inability to push those LRS+; it seemed even more under powered than the Outlaw. However I think the A10 is a better sounding amp. The upper mids and highs are a bit pronounced and I like that but the bass seems to lack presence and muscle. I'm not a "bass head"; in other words I really don't care for room shaking bass. Particularly with the kind of music I predominantly listen to mostly jazz piano trios, straight jazz with acoustic instruments, upright bass, etc. With the Outlaw I really don't need the subwoofer; it's just there to add slightly more presence to the sound-stage, but with the A10 I absolutely have to use the subwoofer otherwise not much bass. Additionally with the A10, mellow jazz guitar on some tracks sound a little recessed and slightly distorted more than I've heard on other amplifiers. The A10's sound stage also seemed a little narrower that the Outlaw.The A10 is a lovely amp overall but I returned it. I've considered the A12 but I've read comments about the same thing, bass seems to be lacking a bit. I eventually purchased a Rotel RA 1592 MkII which was on sale for about the same price which has a lot of muscle and seems to work better for my needs. It's really difficult trying to make a decision when we don't have retail stores to check the sound out before purchases.

@CarlVanDoren61 22 күн бұрын

Current is your best friend 🧡

@LennyFlorentine 20 күн бұрын

That’s a great setup and I’m glad you found a solution! You can always call us for advice!

@randycochones5965 16 күн бұрын

i like AP products, but take VINCENT products into account. Deep, clear powerful bass capabilities. They come near some AUDIONET 7.000,- price region.

@casesimmons2645 Ай бұрын

I wish I could afford a Advanced Paris they are gorgeous looking

@MarkRehorst 19 күн бұрын

I have an A12 and use it to drive my B&W 703 S3s and SVS 3000 Micro sub. Sounds great, and I have yet to see the meters read 1W. I have had some difficulty getting the HDMI port to work reliably with my LG TV, but that seems to be an LG problem. I connect to the TV using optical. I have an old VRDS-20 CD player that I connect to the amp via balanced analog and coax inputs (I don't really hear any difference between them, but I'm getting old and my ears aren't what they used to be). Yes, there is white light surrounding all three knobs, and the power switch displays a white ring when power is on. Floor standing speakers are usually more efficient than bookshelf speakers, so the A10 should be fine with big floor standing speakers. OTOH, more power never hurts. The DAC in the A12 is a Burr- Brown (owned by TI) PCM1796. It sounds great to my ears, but so does the SMSL SU-1.

@LennyFlorentine 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing Mark! Great info!

@bobzador4038 20 күн бұрын

Did you guys say the Splendor Classic 100 speaker at $ 14,800.00 is a common pairing for the Advance Paris products. IS this your serious advice ?

@scottbennett3119 7 күн бұрын

You got me interested in these amps. I'd like to know how warm the A10 and A12 run? Have you guys tested how many watts they consume at idle? Could someone there check? Thanks.

@greatpix Ай бұрын

For you old codgers like me the Adv. Paris A10 at $2,500 would be equivalent to you spending $850 in the mid '80s. My brain is sort of hard wired to judge everything against what I paid for something in the '80s. Back then I bought a new PS Audio Elite Plus integrated amp for $600 and another $500 on an AR 'The Turntable' with a Linn Basik Plus arm. So that makes the AP A10 a decent deal, especially now.

@ThatHiFiMania Ай бұрын

If you applied that same logic to gas then you might never drive anywhere these days. Lol.

@rochi5 18 күн бұрын

I demoed the A10 and thought bass was light. It was clean and good air and separation. Swapped out the A10 with a Halo A23 and the A23 had more bass impact. Same speakers and room. It was attractive tho.

@LennyFlorentine 18 күн бұрын

Very interesting! We have the p6/A23 so that may be a fun comparison

@frankgarcia9834 17 күн бұрын

I am looking at the A12 and the Magico A1 to go with my SVS PB2000 and probably be done.

@LennyFlorentine 17 күн бұрын

Give Tom a call he will help you out!

@stephannordmann5346 Ай бұрын

If I buy french Hifi it would be Atoll 👍 100% MADE IN France

@justasimplefox 28 күн бұрын

100% 🤝🏻

@MotownAudio 17 күн бұрын

I have the a12 and it’s great

@theoracleprodigy 9 күн бұрын

I'm confused usually floor standing speakers are more efficient than bookshelf's. You should be able to drive floor standing speakers with less.

@av_rob79 29 күн бұрын

You're videos are awesome, wasn't it you that made a Christmas video last year based off A Christmas Carol? I've been trying to find it for days with no luck

@LennyFlorentine 29 күн бұрын

It’s unlisted but here’s a link since you were trying to find it A HIFI CHRISTMAS CAROL kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipyZmaGIjc2FbM0

@av_rob79 29 күн бұрын

@LennyFlorentine Thanks!!

@philgarrison3049 26 күн бұрын

Do you know if the A12 has theatre bypass ?

@scottbennett3119 7 күн бұрын

This is pretty funny 😂! Your friend not knowing what aptx is, or much of anything about these products. (Mabey, it's too early in the morning, and you're tired?) But I know you guys are cool and normally very knowledgeable.😊 I appreciate your raw honesty!

@StrangeBrewReviews 11 күн бұрын

Need to get in the new Adcom and Cerwin-Vega

@dtracy03ss Ай бұрын

Dang wheres my Free Bluetooth plug in!!! The Deal with Their Looks is that they Back.up.the Looks With Killer Performance! Also For Tom my take is that 190 watts to the Klipsch isthe Headroom you have for Super Clean Power instead of maxing out a 10 Watt Tube amp.

@ericbachmann8037 Ай бұрын

You are also streaming when watching KZbin videos.

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

That's very true!

@mbvx7 3 күн бұрын

I just bought the Sonus Faber Sonetto III G2. Is the A10 enough? I play at 70-76 average. I might hit 86dB max. 15x14 room. 88db efficient. is the A12 Worth $1400 More? I had thought about the new NAIM Uniti CI-102 since it is 150/250 wpc. Is there anything else under $3799 that is good for the Sonettos?

@LennyFlorentine 3 күн бұрын

We have some options we can go over with you for the system. Give us a call or text 443-402-5056!

@TheFofo78 25 күн бұрын

Are Kef R3s a good match with the advance A12

@LennyFlorentine 20 күн бұрын

Yeah that’s a good pairing. You can always call the guys for advice and how it sounds.

@harrytrattner2287 Ай бұрын

la scalas match the best with which Advanced Paris A10 or 12 ( by sorce Lp/sacd )

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

Depends what sound you are going for, I’d recommend shooting over a text and we can help more in depth

@Giantidiot 14 күн бұрын

People can like whatever they want, but my experience of owning an Advance Paris A10 Classic RA-1062 is that they are nowhere close. The Advance Paris is by far the best amplifier sonically I have ever had (after having two different NAD amps, a Musical Fidelity, and a NAD), so I am not sure what people looking down on it are comparing it to. For 1400 euros that I paid for it, it was a steal.

@RobertKohut Ай бұрын

Soooo, romantic lighting is your thing now? 🙂

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

Ha still playing around with it but soon I’ll have the back lit up with all kind of stuff

@mikedelara8226 Ай бұрын

I want to believe in your channel so bad. I'm a big fan. But everything you guys said was purely obtainable through other videos. I'd really like someone that I respect to do a deep dive. And sadly, I agree with a couple of the other comments about not knowing about the product you're selling. I'm sorry.

@LennyFlorentine Ай бұрын

It’s all good appreciate the feedback. We don’t watch other videos so maybe it’s a consensus, we also did this off the cuff, the myconnect is brand new to the US as of like last month so we’ve only got to use it once.

@pedrodepacas4335 12 күн бұрын

This is Tom. Not Dave Navarro. 😂

@LennyFlorentine 12 күн бұрын

Are you sure?

@madcrabber1113 16 күн бұрын

Where are they made and where is the company from? Just cannot force myself to save money buying anything from China at this point. On a side note there are some great sounding bluetooth codecs now.