Advanced Rider Safe Course - What to expect - Walkthrough

Here's a video of what to expect at the Advanced Riders Safe Course.
I've put times on each separate part of the course so you can pick and choose at your leisure any specific parts of the course you are interested in.

[@sanjayprancis3459]

27th may 2022: everything is the same! Start to finish and time goes so fast!! Don't be nervous guys the actual assessment is way easier than the Learner's assessment and pretty straight forward! Good luck to those who gonna go for their p's!

[@kolatt1409]

Thanks

[@Xedokai]

Just a comment for any of those going for their R-Date. And yes! I do realise how old this video is. Though for people like me, it's still very useful. Any-hoo, I passed my Advanced Course today (Yay me). Just wanted to clarify that the scoring system has either changed or the person who made the video was mistaken in advertising "21 points for this exercise" on each exercise. 1. The TOTAL amount of points you can incur for the ENTIRE assessment is 20 points. Meaning, you can incur 20 points across all 5 exercises and still pass. 2. The MAXIMUM amount of points you can incur for each exercise = 10 points. So, 11 points incurred for a single exercise = failed the assessment. 3. For example; if you put your foot down twice, say, in the figure 8/u-turn exercise. That will incur 10 points (5 points per foot down). However, you can still pass, as you've only incurred 10 points for that exercise (As per the maximum) and less than 20 for the entire assessment. If you then hit one of the "snake eyes" (as they call them) in the weave exercise, that'll be another 5 points. So 15 points incurred in total across 2 exercises = pass. 4. Failing to stop within 11 meters at 30kmp/h will incur 21 points and obviously, fail the assessment. Hope that's helpful. And thank you to the creator of this video. Helped me understand what's to expect before doing my course!

[@mcfly6161]

Instructor clearly says that a maximum amount can be deducted during each activity, not allowed to be deducted. Specifically noted at the first test when he says you can cross over the line 7 times or put your foot down 6 times you’ll only lose 10 points.

[@Xedokai]

@@mcfly6161 Bit late for a reply. Still.. Been to that exact location and done it. I know the point system.

[@mcfly6161]

@@Xedokai never too late for a reply when it’s in reference to a video. Has the video changed? And, it is in fact only possible to lose a maximum amount of points per exercise. The only individual test you can fail is a the braking test. Otherwise you fail by accumulating points that carry over.

[@Xedokai]

@@mcfly6161 Which is basically what I said lol

[@mcfly6161]

@@Xedokai fora single component, @@Xedokaipoints @@Xedokaithe S component @@Xedokai

[@Nixa44]

A note for everyone, I did my Advanced Level 2 course in April 2023 and it is still exactly the same as what’s presented in this video. Tip for anyone doing it, keep calm, and use plenty of throttle for the friction zone while riding rear brake, wring the f**** out of it if you have to. They do give you plenty of time to practice before the assessment.

[@Massacheefa]

I’m going for mine today 👌🏼👌🏼

[@xthobitus]

Thanks heaps for posting this. Super helpful. LIttle surprised they let you film tbh

[@mmmtho3847]

Thanks mate. Did the test today and passed without a worry. This clip definitely put my mind at ease, especially since I haven't ridden in about 5 months. Big ups!

[@LJawz]

Thanks mate. Super happy to hear this video helped you! Share it with any mates that are interested in doing the advance course. Peace

[@jackclarke8602]

They explained it way more for you than when i did it. I did my advanced course after being on my L's and riding around for 4 months and passed first shot. When i did it they expected everyone to know what to do to ride a bike which is the whole point of the course. But they explained the exercises as well. Also good to see you are a fellow adelaidean 😂

[@LJawz]

Really depends on the teachers you get. But I mean they should expect you to know what your doing by that stage, I was with a couple of guys that I believe shouldn't have passed but hey,what you gonna do. See you around man! Ride safe

[@Mackathne]

@ As far as I know, in the US it's not. I got my endorsement last week with just the 1st basic rider course

[@LJawz]

This course was taken in Australia. You have to do the basic course to get your learners. Then an advance course to get your r-date license which you'll be on for a year. Then you'll be eligible to upgrade to your full license. Would imagine they have a different system in the US.

[@jesterwrath]

May I ask if this is the course at St Agnes in Adelaide?

[@ariseyhun2085]

@@jesterwrath yep i believe so, i recognise the inspector from when i got my L's

[@mikehowes12]

Great video! No changes to the course as of Sept 2021 apart from the updated scoring system mentioned in other comments. Passed first try using their Suzuki! Only 1 failed out of a group of 7.

[@KAI..._]

Used this video to help me prepare for my Ls last year and am using it now to prepare for my Ps today! Looks simple enough. I got this! 😄

[@jeffveraart2695]

Thanks for posting, I've been riding to work almost daily for the last 6 months and it's time I thought about doing the advanced course. This gives me an idea about what to practice.

[@LJawz]

No worries man! It really isn't as "advanced" as they say it is. I just enjoyed myself that day and met some cool people and got to ride bikes. What more could you ask for

[@MarkLange-wi9cr]

Legend cheers for this vid. I’m doing my advanced tomorrow. Seen in the comments that this is still how they’re doing it, as recently as two weeks ago. 🤟🏼

[@alanpearson2534]

Thanks heaps, mate! Just passed Advanced... which I almost certainly wouldn't have had I not had this video for reference - and subsequent practice prior to the actual course! I can confirm firsthand - practice what you see in this video PRIOR to commencing the Advanced course and your chances of success will be great, if not certain!

[@Aastax]

Went n passed the course today at the st agnes location. Everything still the same, vid helped alot cheers mate.

[@ls4movement322]

I just got my msf endorsement about a month ago thanks to this video.. I also will be going back to that open area with the painted lines to practice on my own times the more skilled the better

[@rockyp3917]

When you grow up in India riding motorcycles, you end up developing 360 degree awareness. Everything else seems easy

[@oscarhemmings9166]

2020 update: Just did the advanced course at the same location as in the video and can confirm that the exercises shown in the video are exactly the same as in the actual course, as is the order of the exercises and the penalty system. Still going strong at four years old!

[@LJawz]

Thanks for the update mate! Did you pass?

[@surakshasubedi8739]

I have test coming this week. I am little anxious as I never practiced this particular sets of skills properly. Been riding for a while though. Do you know any places we can go and practice?? I am from south side.

[@andrewmadge]

Thanks for publishing this video.. it was really helpful. I passed today and this definitely helped. I watched this video over and over again. I still practiced for hours and hours but it was a great help to know beforehand what the course was about. Safe riding and all the best.

[@LJawz]

No worries mate! Glad I could help you out. Congrats on passing! Stay upright brother!

[@snm79]

Top work on the video mate, was a big help, aced my test last week thanks to you :)

[@matthewschulz391]

Thanksci complete test today I passed with one point spare this clip def helped

[@StillOnTheRun]

Going for mine next month, Cheers for the video mate!

[@LJawz]

Goodluck mate

[@petes6347]

Thanks for doing this LJawz! It really helped. I did my Advanced day today and the riding part was the same as you have here. Sometimes the instructors don't explain much, so it helped to have seen the exercises before. I think the points scoring was about what Xedokai said below.

[@kamikazeclaymore]

Thanks for posting this! Taking the advanced class soon and was curious what to generally expect. Ive logged a few thousand (city/hwy) miles on a Vstar 1100 over the years so it’ll be a change on something smaller, lighter and more agile. Concept is the same though. Control the bike.

[@LJawz]

No dramas mate. Best of luck!

[@kamikazeclaymore]

@@LJawz Thanks! Finally got my bike back after too long. Now just need to finish the paint and rebuild so she’s ready for a road trip. 3 weeks and counting. Stay safe!

[@malachai5542]

Exactly the same 12/03/2023. They won't let you record video like this anymore. And as long as you keep your nerves you'll pass - they prepare you for everything.

[@rockyp3917]

Thank you so much for uploading this video, many people will find this information super useful. Thank you again, good Sir

[@LJawz]

+Rocky Pingale you're very welcome! I'm glad I could help

[@simantkaushikluitel4333]

I’ll be moving to Adelaide in February. I prefer motorbikes over car, so how convenient is it to use them there in terms of weather and traffic? I’ll mostly commute from Parafield garden to city for work and to Mawson lakes for university. And thats a cool bike, which model is it?

[@dot7735]

I have a sneaking suspicion this is the range near Tea Tree Gully, Adelaide?

[@jeffveraart2695]

You'd be right lol.

[@savage9742]

It’s held at St Agnes isn’t it? I don’t know myself, I’m about 3mths off going for my L’s

[@AndrewWilsonOz]

Just passed my L's there. Very faded lines now. Much harder to see. :) Funnily, I did better on the first day, than the second. Still passed though. Advanced in 6 month, I think.

[@ZeShirky]

I have mine tomorrow morning. Hopefully all goes well lol.

[@joytan4979]

Hi，I am wondering did you take this video in Adelaide? Because I will take this course after a day tomorrow in Adelaide. Thx.

[@greenaquatics9503]

Hey thanks for the vid 👍 helping me practice

[@LJawz]

No dramas mate. Hope it helps

[@LightGesture]

This is our beginner class to just get an endorcement, Only thing we didn't have was the spiral and the s curve, however, we had other exercises similar, some higher speed chicanes

[@Alex-os5co]

Another huge thanks for posting this mate

[@LJawz]

Aye, no dramas mate! Hope it helped

[@Mel-k7q]

Still relevant. Not much has changed. Not even the instructor.

[@sausagesandwichSA]

Thanks mate....Does everyone one use the Rider Safe supplied bikes as I would have thought there would be more L plates seen...presuming this is the course to go from L to P ? Not sure wether to use my bike or Rider Safe...we'll see when the time comes. Cheers

[@LJawz]

+South Aussie Outdoors hey mate, everyone I went with used the bike supplied but you can use your own if it's registered and working well etc. The benefit of using their bike is that you can ride the clutch at slow speeds without having to worry about wearing it down like you would on your own bike. Best of luck!

[@matthewschulz391]

I'm going tomoz thanks for this but I'm still hopeful to psss

[@Justin-df1lf]

I reckon thats bruce the bigger guy in light blue. He was at my murry bridge course a month ago.

[@davinmb]

Hi, can anyone confirm the dimensions of the u-turn box?

[@RADskillsJeff]

Excellent clip very helpful

[@LJawz]

+Jeffrey Lane glad to hear

[@kolatt1409]

A million thanks, It's been the most precious KZbin ever for me, I gonna go for R date soon. Anyone know the measurement for u-turn and cone distance for weaving ?

[@sanjayprancis3459]

Did you pass? If so, was it easy cause I'm going for mine tomorrow and lowkey nervous

[@andz829]

Hi LJawz, Thanks for the vid For the figure 8, do they expect you to full lock?

[@LJawz]

Hey andz, It's been a while but from memory I don't believe they "expect" you to full lock, as long as you can do it within the boundaries. Having said that, it would be pretty hard to do the figure 8 without fully locking. Hope this answered your question

[@andz829]

@@LJawz I practised the figure 8, passed it today. Your vid does help. Thank you

[@conroygreyfin7011]

A lot of people have been telling me that practising on my bike (Vstar-650) will make this course a whole lot easier. It actually makes me a little more anxious about it. I sucked at u-turn during the beginners course and I don't use clutch or brake when u-turning my bike (which I can do in just over two car spaces).

[@LJawz]

In some sense it might make it easier, as the bikes you'll be doing the course on will be a lot lighter and have a better turning circle. My advice would be to keep practising on the vstar and begin to start using clutch and rear break to try get the tightest U-turn you can. And remember to look in the direction you want the bike to go, that helped me a lot.

[@conroygreyfin7011]

@@LJawz I have this odd feeling that a lighter bike will throw me off a little. It is amazing how much just moving your head a little can change an entire turn. I still have about 14 months before I even have to attempt the advanced course though. Appreciate the video and response.

[@petes6347]

@@conroygreyfin7011 Yeah it will be different. But those TU250x are easy to ride.. I did my Ridersafe 2 today, and after only a few minutes, I was doing better on it than I do on my bike. So it was a good choice for the test. Practicing on yours is still worth while, of course: on the day you have some learning to to, but everybody does. To pass the test, I think they're going to insist you use clutch and brake. The whole day of the advanced course is about low speed.. the words Friction Zone were heard over and over. And Turn your head!

[@conroygreyfin7011]

@@petes6347 The only downside to practising on my bike is the friction zone almost doesn't exist which I have read may just be the way the bike was made. But that challenge is part of the fun.

[@petes6347]

@@conroygreyfin7011 Ah okay! Doesn't that make it hard to ride? Specially at low speeds? I spend lots of time in the FZ, not that I'm an ace or anything.

[@chickenpotato9681]

Hey mate, I havent been on a bike in about 8 months althought before that i was riding daily for a while. Do they give you much time to get your bearings at the start or is it straight into it?

[@LJawz]

+Chickenpotato they give you enough time to get used to the bike your​ riding and what to expect in the final assessment. Might pay off just to get back on a bike for an hour and get your bearings again.

[@chickenpotato9681]

I no longer have a bike to practice on thats the problem haha, cheers though man I might just wing it

[@LJawz]

+Chickenpotato good luck. Let me know how you go

[@tonymontanam2110]

how did you go brother?

[@cjumberger7489]

Now do you have to use your own bike for the Advance course? Or do they supply a small cc bike?

[@LJawz]

+cj umberger they supply a range of 125cc and 250cc. Trail bikes and Honda cb's and option of scooters were at my course. Although you can use your own bike if it's street legal

[@Massacheefa]

I’ve got mine this afternoon 👌🏼👌🏼

[@DocMoss]

Sure doesn't look very advanced to me. In fact, it looks like part of a very old beginner course from the 1990s.

[@LJawz]

+Doc Moss I agree 110% with you. I was expecting a lot more from this course and didn't come out learning anything new or feeling more "advanced". We've had 22 motorcycle deaths in 2017 in South Australia alone, triple the amount from 2016, and I think these courses are to blame

[@danielparker1511]

I'm going for my basic course nexr month what can I expect from that. Gonna be honest didn't read the name of this vid and thought this was the basic and stressed out

[@mikefirthy]

Thanks champ ...

[@flynnjacobs1662]

Hi, know video is a bit old, but I’m 16 I have my L car licence, if I want to ride motorbike, do I have to pass this course what your doing, then I can go out on the road? Thanks

[@LJawz]

Hey mate, not sure if you're in Australia or not. But if you are, you can do a similar course to this ( in my opinion they're both relatively simple and easy ), and then you'll be able to ride on the road with a motorbike at 16.

[@flynnjacobs1662]

LJawz yeah I live in Adelaide, won’t be able to go for it for a while cause the virus stuff, I’m also trying to convince my parents about me buying a motorbike, and one thing, is a 125cc ok for a first bike? I don’t have too much money and I’m looking and like a cbr 125

[@benjamin_1652]

@flynn Jacobs it's hard to say too many variables best thing do is your research

[@jimmyconnolly188]

It would have been more helpfull if wee could hear what the instructor was saying

[@jakematthews5659]

I went today, unfortunately i didn't pass my basic rider first day lmao. i didn't feel i did bad, here and there i may of did quick take off but nothing that would be very dangerous. I understand clutch mechanics but i think my biggest problem was squeezing the tank with my legs a lot of the time. so i was having some difficulties.I have enlisted in the military so i cant get another shot at it till possibly later this year (2020) after they booked me weeks after i paid... i found my wrist slipped down the throttle (not applying just the angle) after time. They tried to give me advice but it didn't help. they also changed my bike three times :/ so i had to get use to the clutch on each bike. Guys were nice at St Agnes but i found it didn't help i was among a group of experience dirt bikers so i stuck out like a sore thumb. Can you give me any advice to take away?? do u think i should just get a dirt bike and ride it on some family property then go for my L's? thanks for the content

[@LJawz]

Hey mate! Sorry to hear you didn't pass first time. It can be a bit of an overwhelming experience especially when you're there with experienced riders. So what exactly did they deduct points from in the final assessment? If you were doing the basic course I believe it was the two turns and the emergency brake? Some advice I could give that helped me then, and I still use today, is look in the direction you want the bike to go. When doing turns or cornering, look through the turn and not right Infront. As far as clutch control goes, the best thing for it is practise. If you have a friend or relative that has some property with a dirt bike, it would help to maybe take it out for an hour and practise taking off, changing gears and stopping without an "audience". Hope this helped! And all the best with the military.

[@ThrillaPark]

Thx

[@LJawz]

No worries mate. Hope it helped

[@BruceeVision]

Hi, what are the measurements of: the parallel lines, s curve, slalom and u turns? (if known) Thank you.

[@xthobitus]

I measured it out on google maps and got the following (bear in mind these wont be 100%, but should be pretty close) U-Turn Box - 5m x 13m Weaving - 7 cat's eyes at 3m intervals. Lines 2.5m apart Straight Line Balance - 18m S-weave - 2 Semi circles, small circle radius 1.7m Large radius 3.2m, approx 1m between lines Hope that makes sense

[@shitestirrer6973]

Thanks

[@DoWorkNP]

So is this just the course to get you cert. that you take to dmv to get your license? Because I just got my certificate and we did a lot of the same drills?

[@LJawz]

Pretty much. This is the second course you do to get onto your R-Dates. And then after a year of being on that you'll get your full R license.

[@DoWorkNP]

@@LJawz Oh ok I see. Are you in California? How much did this class cost, and was it two days like the first? If you dont mind me axing

[@LJawz]

@@DoWorkNP Australia 👍 first "basic" course was a 2 day course. This second "advance" course was half a day. Not sure if it's the same system over in the US

[@DoWorkNP]

@@LJawz oh ok I see thanks man!

[@3512jacky]

This video os good but I need a voice over

[@Jackwhite634]

Is the advanced course much different to the basic course? Im starting next week

[@LJawz]

In all honesty the advanced course didn't feel very "advanced". I would argue that it's almost similar if not the same as the basic course. No new techniques were taught and I feel some of the riders there, as good a riders as they were, didn't deserve to pass.

[@Jackwhite634]

Thanks for that bro, i passed the basic, really didnt expect it to only be a very tiny assessment, they recommended 6 months but i feel confident to do it in a couple months as the 5 manoeuvres i feel are easy ish aha

[@LJawz]

Yeah man. You did well going earlier. Ride safe!

[@phantomcruizer]

Can you train on an automatic motorcycle?

[@LJawz]

Yes, they give you an option to learn on a scooter. But I'd recommend at least trying the manual bikes

[@fredrochler9829]

@@LJawz Also need to know that in SA, if you do the basic test (the first one) on an automatic, then you only get endorsed for a learners which allows scooters/automatic bikes, not geared ones.

[@rubyleah2928]

Roughly wat speed do u think you were doing in the first activity slow riding .. I’m currently getting slowest speed at 5kmh on my bike but feel that’s still “too fast” for that particular activity

[@LJawz]

+RubyLeah29 the first activity was an exercise for the final assessment. When you get marked on it they'll have you set up behind two lines that you need to travel between, the person marking will start walking and you'll need to stay at approximately their pace (4-5km/h).

[@rubyleah2928]

LJawz thanks heaps for your reply i appreciate it man I’ll keep practicing and see if I can get down to 4kmh.

[@LJawz]

+RubyLeah29 no problem mate! Let me know how you go! And yeah this is the SA course. Did it at st Agnes

[@TheSlimjadey1]

LJawz ooh, that’s where I’m going for my beginners course in just over a week

[@LJawz]

Good luck

[@imaadshukur9200]

What city is this in?

[@LJawz]

This is in Adelaide

[@kysparre5071]

How old do you have to be to do this

[@LJawz]

+Ky Sparre at least 16

[@kysparre5071]

LJawz thank you

[@Jordy1979]

I wouldn't recommend someone to just do this without doing a bit of time on a bike while on your Ls

[@LJawz]

I'd agree. However the course is very similar to the basic course. Just depends on how confident you are with riding

[@Jordy1979]

@@LJawz true mate. Just did it today and passed only dropping 3 points but you could stuff it up pretty easily if you never did much riding on your Ls. Unless you had a experience on dirt or track.

[@LJawz]

Good job mate! Stay upright

[@asakapa0003]

So i took the msf been riding for 3 months now.. how helpful is the advanced or intermidiare course?

[@LJawz]

+asakapa0003 not so much helpful as you just want to do it to get onto your R-Dates. It's half a day course so they expect you to know most of this stuff already.

[@LightGesture]

What's the guy wearing at 10:23? Lmao

[@LJawz]

The thing on his head? They're not that fashionable I agree 😂😂 It's a disposable hygiene "helmet". If you borrow one of their helmets they give it to you to stop you contracting possible lice and other stuff like that.

[@billknows1980]

this is advanced training ?/ are you kidding me ??

[@LJawz]

Yep haha, was extremely similar to the basic course if you ask me

[@MHeadroom256]

This is a nice explainitory vid, It's the BASIC course not advanced

[@LJawz]

Can assure you this was the advanced course. Things may have changed since doing it but at the time this was recorded it was the advanced.