Advanced-RV Alternator Improvements

[@mikefranks4528]

This is one of my favorite ARV videos. It's not flashy or has cute music playing. The simple fact that it shows awesome innovation for power and efficiency is good enough for me. Great job. Can't wait to get mine installed.

[@davidstovall2264]

I had the new Delco-Remy alternator installed on my then 15 month old Advanced RV in May. It makes a world of difference. It runs cooler and quieter as mentioned in the video. Also, it's output charging is much higher and does not degenerate with heat. To test this, I ran my 800ah lithium ion battery bank down to about a 256ah SOC deficit. I drove on the most consistent road possible, the non-stop 50 mph Natchez Trace. The battery bank recharged to 100% SOC charge in 1 hr and 2 minutes. Driving faster on interstate highways could have produced over 300 amps and faster charging. The charge rate settled in at about 280 amps per hour charge rate and held that until 95% SOC. Then the Balmar voltage regulator started "braking" the charge rate steadily down to 0 when fully charged. In comparison, my former Nations alternator would charge at around 220 amps initially and would have dropped down to around 180 amps and lower after about 30 minutes. The Nations alternator easily recharged an overnight's use of electricity in well under an hour and usually about a half hour and we drove more than that almost daily. What Advanced RV reported was more extreme users in the south and southwest driving in summer high heat were experiencing a battery deficit in that the Nations alternator was producing less energy than a turned on house air conditioner was producing. In other words a battery "death spiral" as it was put to me and most likely, I imagine, arriving at a campsite with less than 100% SOC and putting a lot of stress on the alternator. Customer feedback drove this. I haven't encountered those driving conditions where I felt I needed to run my house air conditioner but appreciate the improvements, quietness and anticipated better reliability nevertheless. There is a movement in the Class B camper van group to travel free from being tethered to campground hookups as much as possible.The under hood second alternator is one piece that makes it possible much more so than the traditional Onan generator. Larger battery banks, especially LifeP04 batteries of 400ah or more and a high capacity inverter (2800w in my case) make it possible to drive and camp 24/7 transparently no different than if one is hooked up to shore power. In other words all your 120VAC outlets, microwave, induction cooktop, Keurig coffee maker, air conditioning, etc. are always available and you don't have to run an internal combustion engine to use them. This means you can stop anywhere you desire that is legal and not disturb anyone running an engine be it your vehicle or Onan. Cost too much? My answer is priceless.

[@mahfah7911]

David Stovall As a newbie I am to this RV world. would you please explain does all these new improvements has some downside to battery life or engine? What about in rainy conditions since it’s mounted below the chassis? Also, my question for Advanced RV is that how much lower this makes for overall suspension? Do you have to be careful exiting and entering gas stations with steep entrance? From what I can tell these are quite low height sprinters.

[@michaelschneider-]

+1. .. Well said David Stovall. .. Breakthroughs in battery use/storage/etc. are often sought, yet rarely found. .. The engineering staff at Advanced RV delivers; case in point; alternator w/pulley-converter enhancement .. Can't wait,,,, until the significant design benefits surrounding that of 48+ volt automotive chassis systems - fully emerges. .. The ENG's at Advanced will have a field day. .. Talk about a paradigm shift. .. Bye, bye, heavy wiring and the huge Kw Onan generator......

[@agileanalyst214]

great info. ARV's dedication to elegant and robust solutions really shows up here. (hate to be the one, but I think we're spelling it "pulley")

[@gklinger]

A superbly informative video! I really respect that Advanced RV is constantly working on meaningful, technical innovations to improve their products while other RV manufacturers' innovations seem limited to adding more decals to their products.

[@debsmith7120]

Love this type of update video, and the dedication to continuous improvement that it exemplifies. Wishing ARV the continued success that you all so richly earn.

[@sdushdiu]

Can you provide the make/model of the alternator and the make/model of the torque converter for those who do not have access to your services?????

[@nickaltvater5592]

Must be a secret

[@SuperVo2max]

quick question. how can I purchase a 2nd alternator like this for my 2020 sprinter van please? Thank you.

[@wallygater]

I don’t remember seeing anything like this before where you actually show talent working behind the scenes.

[@rickjones8735]

Significant difference. Worth the added cost.

[@AdvancedRV]

Thank you for your kind words!

[@mtaviator]

What’s a pully? Is that similar to a pulley?

[@monicawilson896]

I enjoyed learning about this. Thank you

[@ovidiuficiu2376]

I have Srinter 4x4 2021 with secondary air conditioner from manufacturer and I want to instal a second alternator. What do you think?

[@daviddelfiner33]

I ordered the additional alternator mount so I could charge my batteries quicker. I have a 500ah lithium battery. Which system would be most efficient? Two alternators or one of the type alternators you are using? Also have do you control the amount of amps going into the battery from the alternator? I have a solar charge controller that I can set the high and low points. Thank you David

[@cr0ft-2k]

Yeah, paying several thousand dollars for an alternator alone stings, but that does get you a really nice multiple-hundred amp unit. Though I believe Advanced RV has moved on again, and the new hotness is now a 48 volt unit coupled with 48 volt lithium iron batteries?

[@dynabanjo]

How did you get a substitute nearly twice the size into the engine compartment? Did you have to change the layout significantly?

[@charlest7027]

could you not achieve the same by replacing the stock OEM from the manufacture with a 400ah alternator and then installing a DC2DC charger? or 2 to get the desired amps? or direct from the alternator with inline fuse and have the lithium BMS take care of the over voltage? Dont see why you would need to alternators in a van? I seen people use 400amp alternators and thats enough to charge a 800AH lithium system in long drives and or to power heavy constant loads like RV Rooftop air conditioners?

[@nicholaslandolina]

Whats the power difference?

[@unclelar819]

VERY nice!!!! Thanks for the info.

[@circusboy90210]

looking for recomendations on a 5.9 cummings 350 amp alternator.

[@1diodejay]

Can this be done for a Ram Pro Master 2500?

[@AdvancedRV]

Hi Jodie. We have done this type of work on Pro Masters before. To be sure, we would ask that you send pictures beforehand so we can get an idea of your setup.

[@1diodejay]

Advanced RV I’m just researching now so no set up yet. I’m sure I don’t want solar and was looking into second alternator installations when I came across this. I’m thinking I’ll need 400ah lithium ion to start but want the option to add later if needed.

[@mehdifard4489]

sorry, I did not get he model number of the alternator. will you help!

[@williamoverton7265]

This is awesome, how much approximately?

[@AdvancedRV]

Thank you for your question William. Our second alternator is a component of our battery system and is not sold stand-alone.

[@williamoverton7265]

​@@AdvancedRV And how much is the whole sha-bang installed on an Isuzu NQR with a dry freight body that contains a mobile woodshop please?

[@DrDGr2]

How to deal with the recommendation from Mercedes saying to NOT idling the Sprinter , Even when the RPM is increased (vs using the alternator to recharge depleted battery ?

[@AdvancedRV]

It is difficult to get a definitive answer on the amount of idling sanctioned be MB. We have an MB representative here every spring at our fest. When they are asked that question, the answer generally is that you don’t want to idle the sprinter continually, even with high idle and without driving the vehicle. This works well with this platform as most users are not sedentary for very long.

[@DrDGr2]

Advanced RV : Considering the cost associated with any damage done to the "after Treatment" (SRC, EGR, NOx, DEF, DPF) of those German Sprinter , wouldn't be more prudent to use, a small , silent, immensely reliable, gas generator? (Honda 2000 with the extended gas tank) Sure thise generator will works for longer periods of time. The AC/heat-pump can be started using a hybrid inverter who use the Batteries bank combined to the small gen if needed. The Honda gen is low cost, low maintenance and allow us to boondocks for longer periods of time without putting to much risk at damaging the Sprinter... opinions?

[@AdvancedRV]

Our consideration is to manage only one fuel. Also, our inverter has that capability should one decide that is a prefered solution.

[@circusboy90210]

a def issue???

[@Nicholas-f5]

What's a pully?

[@joeblow19801980]

How much to retrofit my work van with your alternator pulley etc?

[@AdvancedRV]

Thank you for your question. We need more information about your work van to be able to assess feasibility and price. Please call Janice at 440-283-0405. Or you can send us an inquiry with details here: advanced-rv.com/contact-us/

[@noviceprepper5397]

I liked the video, thank you

[@jcs10319squidoo]

Hi Advanced RV what is the small alternator you used to use? Thank you

[@AdvancedRV]

Thank you for your question jc Stone. The alternator that we used to use is a Nations 270 amp.

[@Esthersimpson620]

*Question* why do modern Tesla cars need charging ports when we have modern *advanced Alternator* Technology??

[@cr0ft-2k]

... because alternators require combustion engines, which there are none of in a Tesla...?

[@Esthersimpson620]

*Croft* Alternators do not require combustion engines, they would work very effectively in a Tesla car. Up to 4 if required at the 4 pivot points of the wheel.

[@cr0ft-2k]

The Tesla already has "alternators" driving the wheels, they're just "working in reverse" and acting as engines. If you spin an electric engine, it produces power. If you send it power, it produces movement. Regenerative braking is literally the engines acting as alternators. Although, the Tesla engine isn't attached at the wheel. You can't get something for nothing. An alternator soaks up power from some source, usually a combustion engine, to create electricity. A Tesla uses electricity to drive an engine that makes the car go. If you put alternators on the wheels, you'll use the power for the alternators, not to make the car go. The reason the alternator generates electricity in an RV is because it converts gasoline into electricity.

[@Esthersimpson620]

*Croft* The Car Alternators don't need combustion engines to work. Example, The Water Powered Turbine, Car Alternators uses belts to create power and stores that power in batteries. This massive infrastructure their planning on building for the Tesla charging stations is simply a scam and the dumb sheep are buying it.

[@cr0ft-2k]

I didn't mean that only combustion engines can turn an alternator. I did mean that some outside force needs to do it, in order for the alternator to generate electricity. A water powered turbine takes the power of the moving water, uses that to rotate the alternator, and generates electricity. Gravity causes the water to fall, and that energy gets partially harvested by the alternator. The energy is coming from one place and being stored as electricity in a battery. The idea that you could use electric engines to simultaneously produce movement and other electric engines (called "alternators" when used to harvest energy) to generate the energy that causes the engines to work is magical thinking. The system needs energy to come in from somewhere. Otherwise you have a perpetual motion engine, which is both physically and theoretically impossible. In fact, a Tesla doesn't need alternators at all to produce charge for the batteries - all it needs is a down hill road that never stops going down hill, and it can roll down and use the engines as alternators to generate electricity for the batteries through regenerative braking. The energy is then harvested from gravity. The only problem is that there are no endless hills, and it would also be extremely impractical. What you're saying about the charging infrastructure is as misguided as it would be to say that petrol cars don't need all those gas stations, and that the gas stations are just scams that the dumb sheep are buying. A Tesla battery must be filled up with energy somehow, and that's what the charging stations do. They take energy generated by a power plant somewhere and put it in the Tesla, and the Tesla then uses that energy to make the engines turn.

[@Chris-nl6hr]

Frank - I have a problem with an auxiliary alternator on a 2015 CS Adventurous 3500. Can I email you privately? Thanks

[@AdvancedRV]

Thank you for your question Surewinder LLC. You can call Frank at 440-283-0405.

[@kenthompson7149]

2 years out if you want one, pretty worthless at this point!

[@kristofferpresthaug8018]

So much bullshit talk. Lot of talk no information

[@kristofferpresthaug8018]

Dataaaaaaa

[@cade469316cw]

Vary much liked it gave me tons of usefull info. right up untill u went all PC Politically Correct and call us craftspeople, tf lol. Let me grab my craftspeople wrench all of us men n women of the trade are tradesmen lol Trollolol hehe js

[@william2william]

Good video but next time don't place the microphone near your throat, hearing you gulp really grossed me out.