Truck Backing Episode 7| Choosing the right path | How to avoid a common alley dock problem

[@fabianramirez8565]

Those camera angles are a thing of beauty.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks Fabian!

[@matfinch6873]

indeed, and not only in this ep, the series is full of it, which helps to perceive them

[@djcleanuptheoneandonly6894]

Your patience is magical.. I'm glad that I have you as an instructor... I'm lucky

[@TheAeonflux1]

I'm currently in CDL school trying to get my alley docking down. Letting the trailer do the work for you with the offset law was a huge lesson for me.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Glad to hear that! Thanks for the feedback. Good luck with everything.

[@leegibson5469]

Yeah, I was in school for 21 days and out with trainer for 6 weeks. Not one teacher ever told me to use the trailer offset to your advantage. I learned it my self when I finally got out on my own. Even though my trainer could see I was having trouble with backing. I was fighting the trailer. Whipping the wheel every which way. Now? I hardly move the thing.

[@verdellg89]

My biggest problem is learning to get back under it I always seem to get confused in which direction to turn

[@MemphisBBQ640]

Your videos are the distilled essence of "work smarter, not harder." Newbies and seasoned drivers alike can benefit from the lessons you reach.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you Richard!

[@MemphisBBQ640]

You're most welcome!

[@AxisFlowers]

The way you explain concepts and demonstrate them from multiple angles is so effective! I just passed my CDL test last week, and your videos were an IMMENSE help. Thank you so much!!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Congratulations Kelly! You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback. Good Luck out there. Stay safe.

[@Halopa60]

I have to say, I really like the way you approach your video's on backing. Great camera angles as in this one from three different perspectives but what really makes you stand out from the rest is your simple and succinct explanations. It's obvious that you have an analytical mind and really know how to get to the nitty-gritty with your explanations. I've been watching the My Trucking Skills channel too but, you have a unique ability to focus in on whatever is the most relevant. I have learned more from you than anyone else. Super appreciate it and please keep those videos coming.👏

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@yeaihaulbro467]

I’ve been driving going on 7 months now!! I will tell you I was struggling with alley docking until I watched one of your videos & ever since I feel like I alley dock my trailer into any dock!! Thank you for your videos and knowledge

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Awesome to hear that! Thanks for the feedback. Stay safe.

[@peterrimui5608]

I just love the commentary about the whole video

[@intrasource]

Yes, between the two of you, the world of cdl training has true way showers.

[@devastatn]

Awesome video. Just finished my 1st week of truck driving school and found out how much I never knew about Driving. One more week of class then off to a week with a trainer. I sure hope I get a driver that can convey what truck driving truly is like you do in these videos. It's really appreciated brother. God bless. ❤ 💯 👍

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Good luck!

[@MyTruckingSkills]

Thanks for the shoutout man!! Great video, as usual, keep up the good work!!

[@moethedeaf2746]

You deserve his shoutout. He is a good guy no doubt. So are you. Keep up the good work, please.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks Moe! Will do!

[@hunterclark71]

Miss working with you! Great video,fantastic job!! And people this guy isn’t just the host, he has real hands on ,as I worked with him for years!!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks John! Miss you too.

[@213krm]

That’s how I found you! My Trucking Skills!! Appreciate you both so much!!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Glad to help Karen!

[@RaindropsBleeding]

I'm definitely starting to see how the steer wheels affect the angle of attack at the kingpin, and how you're using that to steer the trailer. what was once a mystical magic trick to me is starting to look more like a clear and simple series of steps.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Glad to hear that!

[@dillongurel1178]

I can imagine how much time and effort you put in your videos! You really helped me out !!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Happy to hear that!

[@SunnyDayz-69]

Love all the different camera shots and in depth explanation. I've struggled with parking my tiny horse trailer & camping camper, your videos are so helpful. I get better every time I try!

[@leightondavies3127]

Just come across this video great demonstration. I'm uk based and thinking of coming to Canada got about 24 years experience and even after all these years I try to avoid a blind side asmuch as I can due to the risks involved especially in the uk people don't understand the size of these trucks and how much room is needed as they will walk past you regardless

[@jimembrey860]

I am in TDS school now. Had a really good night last night practicing my dock backing. It just started to click as to where to aim my left rear corner, using a beginning gentle curve. This video, pointing out the gate post and the different entry points, really solidifies what I was doing last night, and it just makes the best sense. I especially like the analogy of pushing a wheelbarrow, that helps a lot too and puts it all together. I appreciate the time and effort put into making these great videos to help students and new drivers. I am looking to more and best wishes to you and yours.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank You for the feedback brother! That makes my heart feel good. I hate seeing people struggle unnecessarily. Let us know how it goes...I'm working hard on a project I'll get another out as soon as I can.

[@vc8089]

Thank you for all of your videos! You’re really good at creating these and I can see all the effort you pour into making them. Top of the line content!!! Keep em coming

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

You're very welcome! Thank you!

[@sperson1]

echoing the previous poster....so impressed with the level of practical detail in your explanations that are helpful to us newer drivers, the different camera angles is awesome, can't imagine how much time and planning this takes on your part. thank you for doing what you do!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback! Your Sub and Like are thanks enough! be safe out there.

[@cinairizarry9702]

My son suggested that KZbinr and this is how I found you!! So loving these videos- I’m in the process of becoming a driver as well!! Thanks for all this phenomenal information!! Keep up the great work!!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Awesome! Good luck with everything!

[@OldVideoPutz]

I love all the camera angles. I pull a '30 foot travel trailer, and all the same rules apply. Thanks for the video.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Right on! Thanks for the feedback!

[@RMG30594]

Your videos helped me master the alley dock and improved my parking by alot. I used to take a long time to park until I watched one of your alley dock videos. This one is really helpful too. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Glad to hear it! Thanks for the feedback Raul! You're welcome.

[@TheRealest1821]

Beautiful Backing … Thanks for sharing. I’ve watched ur videos many many times and I’m sharing I’ll be watching them some more. 😊Love your videos - I love the way you show and explain why your doing what it ur doing. I find it very helpful to me. I’m a new driver. Starting my training OTR. Thanks for everything ❤

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Awesome Rose! Thanks for the feedback. Good luck out there.

[@munirahmad7015]

What a beautiful back man; Great job!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you kindly!

[@joe8279]

Great vids!!... I struggle so much with backing and this is very helpful. Stay safe n well. Much love from the UK

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks Joe! You as well!

[@slayerbg8235]

Very good explanation 🥇cameras are great in every aspect.I am 1 year driver and was doing same backup like this but i was seeing old drivers doing like 90 degree on this situation.I was thinking i am wrong somewhere...i tried 90 degree but its very hard to straighten...so i am on the right way 👍😁 Keep doing more videos with different situations THANK YOU 👍

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Great 👍 You're welcome! I never use that old school 90 degree setup. That must have been what they were taught back in the day. I talked about it briefly in episode 4. Good luck!

[@adamrussall3944]

I always struggle in the truck stop ...thank you Sir for all the information

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Glad to help

[@mohamedelkhouly9143]

I am really happy to find your channel, i rarely do press like for videos or you can say almost never press like, but for you, i have to press like, people like you must be encouraged for their helpful content. Waiting your videos for different types of single trucks 🚚 and trucks with trailer which is the hardest for me. Good luck, and good job

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

I appreciate that! Glad you like them.

[@hotsaltwaterfish]

Wow so glad to come across your channel I’ve been having alot of trouble backing up in driving school my intructors suck at actually helping show or teach the 90 degree alley dock at one point he had me turning the wheel all the way. Hopefully I can try these methods I have 5 more classes and still not confident I’m ready. Hope I can now get it down packed. 😅🤞🏽

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks Senen! Watch the playlist a few times, and watch the entire trailer rotate. Good Luck! let us know how it goes!

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Another awesome video! Thank you from the UK!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you too! 👍🏼

[@dadeboy305wh]

Great info and love the camera view nice viedoes thanks

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you! Glad you found them helpful. I'm putting the finishing touches on the next episode should be up in the next day or so.

[@matfinch6873]

Great manoevre as always, great solution. But how do i see wen tandems are approaching the path like this?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank You Mat! You'll need to pick out a tire target and use a little imagination to visualize the curved path coming out from it towards your tandems.

[@RipRoaringGarage]

I love the angles. I think Ill be a very difficult student though. Ive been driving coaches and straight jobs...lots of bad habits, one being floating gears or simple clutching. The double clutching has me worried. I heard thats its an automatic fail if you do it once! I need that A on my license though...

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Get the A for sure. i have a blog post about double clutching at www.ltlmentor.com/how-to-double-clutch-smoothly-the-only-guide-you-need/ and.. www.ltlmentor.com/never-grind-gears-again-know-your-acceptable-shifting-rpm-range-and-stay-within-it/

[@medfurd]

So excited to watch this one!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks for the tip Tyler! Appreciate you.

[@ArmedFLGuy]

Great videos. Thanks for the information!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks for the feedback! You're welcome!

[@HybridphotoPro]

Great job on editing. Thanks for the info.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks for the feedback. my pleasure.

[@successeb2883]

Thank you for the video !!! 👍👍👍👍

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

you're welcome!

[@aldelacruz5526]

Great work!!!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thank you!

[@aldelacruz5526]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking u bet!!!

[@medfurd]

Aside from driving, I use an electric pallet jack all day and it is like backing a miniature truck with an extremely short trailer! Very useful for visualizing paths and practicing setup and angle estimation. I think about your principles every day, but one thing I'm still working on specifically is chasing the trailer, or removing offset. You have mentioned timing before, but have you discovered any consistent laws or things one can look for? I imagine it's probably different for every tractor, trailer, steering wheel, and combination thereof, but I'm always looking for those marginal gains in my backing skills!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

I used one years ago when I delivered milk. Don’t miss that! Lol

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Nothing very concrete. Start earlier and pause by straightening out the steer tires if need be. It takes time to get that down. Sleeper tractors don’t turn as sharply as day cabs and chase slower . Day cabs are slower than yard tractors. Those things turn on a dime.

[@alibinahmed6651]

The game is simply amazing

[@piotrbreski9711]

Waiting for more episodes 👍🏻👍🏻

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Working on a good one Piotr! Thanks!

[@emanueltrudeau4754]

For me you are the best !

[@benabraham9995]

Thank you for your lesson.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

You are welcome!

[@russalladam89]

Thank you man ...amazing

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

You're welcome! Thanks for the feedback! Good Luck!

[@davidroberts6594]

Just starting my owner operator business and my biggest worry is backing into docks and crowded truck stop rest areas!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

It will be stressful at the beginning. Just take your time and make good set ups. Good Luck!

[@matfinch6873]

hello there, thx for this one bcoz it looks and sounds very useful to me, exept that i cannot find the reason why the B-line is started so late, or is that my imagination?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

B line starts late because the street is narrow. The shorter B is the longer C is and vice versa.

[@karondibolden1242]

U should show this when backing into tight truck stops

[@phillipwheeler7257]

I really like your vids

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

thanks Phillip!

[@merdan301]

WOW!!! Unbelievable amazing

[@cody3482]

Not sure why you didn't approach from the left , turn left which would leave you with a straight/ possibly offset back ?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Not sure what you are talking about

[@cody3482]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking It looks like you had an option to go straight back so why alley dock?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

that was not an option..pole directly across, and a dead end street with one way in.

[@PostmanLXXII]

Do you drive on the mirrors or are you looking out of the window during the maneuver?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Window until tractor and trailer are close to straight, then mirrors.

[@melbertserdan8134]

Amazing

[@noeavila77]

Lo puedo hacer 😊👍🏼 Saludos desde México 😊

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

¡Sí tu puedes!👍🏼 ¡Buena suerte mi amigo!

[@tonymitchell5059]

How is it driving for Yellow Holland? New CDL holder would be my first job out of school

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Not as good as it used to be. The pay hasn't kept up with the rest of the industry. Benefits are good. No longer contribute to your pension, but who does anymore. It's a good first job out of school. What city?

[@tonymitchell5059]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking Cleveland, Ohio

[@tonymitchell5059]

Between Holland, Sysco, RDF Logistics, and Foodliner

[@johnnycray4427]

Does the setup change with daycab, & sleeper? I ask because you mentioned that you set up a little further to get gradual pathway of the tandems into the "hole"

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Setup will be the same. You will pull up a little farther because of the added length of the sleeper. Pull up until the trailer tires reach your intended entry path.

[@johnnycray4427]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking ok, thank you 🙂

[@jakethehitman-187]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking that are you guys talking about leg C what about leg B let's say in this example you have all the room forward you want but you don't want to do a straight line back how do you know when to stop leg B A lot of people say when the tractor is pointing that way do you agree with this I think sometimes my leg B is too short because of the hard right but I think that you said if you're be is short you just make your C longer can you overshoot leg B

[@jakethehitman-187]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking excellent!

[@johnnycastle8686]

Perfect 🎉🙌🙌💪🏼💪🏼

[@kylerokitjanski7598]

What are the chances of going through backing up a b-train?

[@Derictab]

Looks like getting out of there would be hard too

[@thomasbarnes624]

Saw the sticker on the pump at a circle k lmao

[@KahmannMan]

near 2 years in and i still have no idea what im doing backing. I can get in anywhere but always chase way to late and end up doing 20 pullups lmao haven't hit anything yet tho so theres always that 😅 I try to watch videos like this to learn but iguess im always scared if I chase too early im gona slam into the trailer on my blindside. I probably would have tried to offset blindside into that gate from the road you pulled in on lol seems easier to me /shrug

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

It was a dead end street, only one way in...Chase sooner and watch the trailer. Check your setup. Have you watched all my videos in the series? If you have a fear of slamming into the trailer on the blindside if you chase too early then you might be a victim of "The opposite myth". The rear of the trailer will not move to the right if you turn the steering wheel hard left. It's a lie! Watch episode 2.

[@KahmannMan]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking I'll check it out next time I stop thanks! Back to drivin I go

[@ThorLivesMatter]

Why not straight back from the perpendicular street there?

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

They are not lined up with each other and the street is at a 45 degree angle.

[@kocfkocf]

Sir what do i do if i haven't yet sold my soul to the devil to be able to perform this maneuver? Practicing on a 35 ft trailer with a single axel tractor. its proving to be more difficult than parallel parking

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

I think its mostly about becoming familiar with the properties of the Offset Law. Try to practice it with your tractor wheels straight. Just observe the entire trailer offset while you do nothing with the steering wheel. When you gain a feel for how long it takes to offset you can then start to speed it up or slow it down with small steering wheel moves.

[@kocfkocf]

@@AdvancedTruckBacking Watched your videos as you said and became more familiar with the offset law! I can 90dagree with my eyes closed now! Thank you so much!

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.

[@garretthughes4451]

I've got my CDL but my backing skills are so horrendous, I'm experiencing major anxiety, I was never placed with a trainer just tossed to either sink or swim, someone please help.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

First thing...take a deep breath. Relax and expand your focus. You must have an expanded awareness of your ENTIRE TRAILER...where your TRAILER TIRES ARE ON THE GROUND vs where you need them to be... and HOW YOUR TRACTOR IS INTERACTING WITH THE FRONT OF YOUR TRAILER. Think of the trailer as a rearward facing arrow. WHERE IT IS POINTING is where the trailer tires are currently going. How the TRACTOR INTERACTS WITH THE KINGPIN determines how fast the trailer rotates. The trailer behaves like a long wheelbarrow. Our only connection is at the kingpin. We are moving the front of the trailer and learning to point or aim the trailer precisely where we want it to go. While traveling in reverse, with our hand at the top of the steering wheel, the front of the trailer moves in whatever direction we move our hand. Clockwise moves make the front corners move to the right and vice versa. Good Luck! Check back in and let us know how you are doing.

[@Poker_Pirate]

Why didn’t you just left turn into the street across from the entrance so you could just do a simple straight back and make tiny adjustments all the way back into the dock? I watched you drive up onto and over the curb which is something a driver is NOT SUPPOSED TO DO.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

It's a dead end street so you can't approach from the other direction. And the side street is at a 45 degree angle and NOT directly across from the entrance. I explain in the video that I don't advocate running over curbs, but at this place I made an exception and why I did.

[@dineshadhikari1260]

Do you have no I need to take a class for 2 weeks

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

email: sheltonATltlmentor.com

[@reading-with-dad7]

Has anyone "played" the My Trucking Skills simulator? I just graduated from Trucking School... and was wondering how well done the game is. If any experienced Truckers can comment... Is the physics in the simulator very accurate? I might download it if it is truly accurate to the real world and helpful.

[@حمیدخسروی-ع6ف]

اوکی❤

[@samishg]

Fantastic camera angles and very cheesy explanation on the frequent mistakes committed y rookies

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Thanks Samish!

[@moethedeaf2746]

What is an e-mail address I can write to you? I have a suggestion that may be helpful.

[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

[e-mail]

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[@JeffreyCrowther]

Still a rookie driver

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[@AdvancedTruckBacking]

Awesome thank you!