How Plants Absorb Living Microbes and Convert Soil Pathogens into Beneficials with James White

In this episode of the Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, John Kempf and Dr. James White of Rutgers University discuss how plants “farm” microbes, convert fungi from pathogenic to beneficials, and send endophytic ambassadors to forage for plant nutrition. Listen to this absorbing conversation to hear John and James cover the science behind these functions. See the complete show notes at regenerativeagriculturepodcast....
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[@wendyscott8425]

Considering that human beings are supposed to be mostly microbes, it makes perfect sense that plants operate in a similar manner. Fascinating!

[@brandongardels4931]

The book Humusphere mentions research from Hugo Schanderl in which they found that green plants, when digested by ruminant animals released organelles that would transform back into bacteria while in the rumen. Eating plants didn't just increase the bacteria in the rumen because it provided a food source for them and they multiplied, but the bacteria came from the food source. It sounded like a scifi story to me originally but it sounds like there is some correlation which this research. Absolutely crazy!

[@leopoldotovar876]

It's a great book humusphere

[@jamesbutterson5218]

Great show for all GROWERS! ☝💚

[@allanturpin2023]

Great interview. I hope James noted for future interviews that playing with his pen gets picked up by the mic.

[@simmonds6063]

There is a movement for landrace breeding to improve production, disease resistance, etc by introducing genetic diversity. This would apply to heirlooms and hybrids alike. The tobacco was only 7 generations removed from it's original wild environment and already exhibited decline. I would love to hear a discussion on the relationship between endophytic activity and genetic diversity, and what each may attribute to performance. It would seem that cultivation and seed saving practices contribute to both. Would be a fun topic I think with a lot to uncover😊

[@hosoiarchives4858]

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[@tcotroneo]

It’s becoming apparent that one of the most important tools on a farm is a microscope and classes in biology to identify what species you have in your soil, plants, and seeds! It would have been nice if they talked about general seed treatment of endophyte bacteria for growers.. For example, soaking seeds in raw milk before planting to recover beneficial microbes..

[@roscorude]

I'm going to soak my pepper and tomato and random flowers seeds in worm casting juice this weekend before planting...then when I do set them in soil to sprout I'm going to add a dab of soil from my worm bins. Super excited to see if these seeds make it and like it. I'm working on a vibrational monitoring device especially for plants. Will they scream with delight being inoculated with worm juice? Or moan with the pain of being eaten by bad nematoads! Stay tuned.

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

See Dr. Elaine Ingham’s work on soil microbiology. It’s phenomenal.

[@nedobrien6375]

Is the milk a food source for other microbes, or is it a source of microbes?. This seems a very easy process for me to try as I am a dairy farmer. Thank you for this post.

[@samuelm370]

This explains why "volunteer" plants that come up from the previous year always do better.

[@michelangelou7]

Wow how amazing!

[@Horse237]

Still in planning stages for a climate battery greenhouse. But you have given me a lot to think about in terms of growing soil biology. I would love to see a more complete description of the proper means of seed saving and storage to maximize the health of our seeds. Might be a good idea to grow several crops in a series of greenhouses for diversity of both crops and soil biology..

[@TS-vr9of]

I've looking forward to this one. :D going to have to wait till tomorrow to listen to it though, can't wait.

[@frankbertola3662]

Wow thankyou I farm in Australia and my first brush with this lines of revelation came to me from one of your fellow country men Niel Kinsey and hands on agronamy. As to the subject of this presentation it has always been a theory I have held for a long time that being plants and animals gain nutrition via the ingestion ie absorption of well nourished bacteria live or dead through stomach villi or root hairs. This is absolutely critical (gut flora) in any ruminant. This is the cause of pregnancy toxicity in these animals ie dead gut. Happy to have come across your channel.

[@MrBob58o]

I love listening to this stuff. I don't know if John is full of it or the real deal, but I feel optimistic after listening to him speak.

[@pedrobagoduva1091]

Could be happening, hypothetically, that the roots’ cells integrate temporarily the microorganisms’ organelles, pretty much as the mitochondria were integrated by eukaryotes... Super interesting and cutting esge contents feom you, as usual! Thanks!!

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

So, the disease state of those pathogenic fungi is actually the OUT-OF-BALANCE state, and their endophytic state is the HEALTHY, BALANCED form of those fungi.

[@JohnKempfVisionBuilder]

Exactly! Isn't that incredible?

[@carlosvalencia5963]

Thanks You for sharing knowledge.

[@dennistaylor3796]

I had a neighbor who said under almost every huge tree is a huge rock...

[@jekesainjikizana9734]

Hahahaha THATS A GOOD QUESTION, love it when IRON SHARPENETH IRON!! well done you two on an awesome seminar

[@tanjawestfall-greiter9814]

Wow.

[@dubtroy331]

I love micro music in the soil what like the micro they sell I go to the woods to get mine

[@jimmartindale]

The transformation which takes place under the influence of prospering health imparting microbiota in a friendly soil eco-system is soooo much a reflection of the nature or character of the Creator God, that I have to give Him Glory. He is at all points reconciling all of His Creation back to Himself. Colossians 1:19-20

[@iwenive3390]

I see prickly pear routinely grow out of metal roof gutters with no soil or water

[@dennisjackson6153]

The frequency of ads is too high.

[@dubtroy331]

I believe in drying plant roots of different plant grind them up Put in my soil but that me it works

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

Dub t roy, you might be interested in Dr. Elaine Ingham’s videos on soil microbiology and aerobic composting.

[@jimmartindale]

This is especially poignant in the discussion relating superoxide production and importance of nutrient uptake. Soil water management is key to preventing high levels of CO2. The redox study bears this out as well.

[@richardruss7481]

Vegans all over the world are going to freak out that plants are omnivores. What will they eat now?

[@JohnKempfVisionBuilder]

I know, right?

[@billiebruv]

Nice one, quote of the century

[@richardruss7481]

@@JohnKempfVisionBuilder I recently listened to you being interviewed on Back to the Roots podcast (i loved it). And it struck me that the only creatures on earth that do not eat other creatures are bacteria (and archaea and perhaps fungi?). We all ingest bacteria and other microbes, so the whole idea of being a vegetarian is kind of absurd. Now, i try to eat as little meat as possible these days, but it is not because i am morally against it, but because i am morally against how animals (that are available to me) are "factory farmed" and full of bad things like antibiotics and hormones. I have been brought up to believe that eating only meat is unhealthy, that fruits and vegetables are needed, the question i have is: do creatures like protozoa, nematodes and micro arthropods also need soluble nutrients to be healthy?