Final Fantasy 8: 101 Facts You Didn't Know!

Here are 101 interesting facts that you may (or may not) know about Final Fantasy VIII!
Let me know which facts you find most interesting in the comments below.
Or do you have any other interesting facts about Final Fantasy 8 that you’d like to share? If so then it would be great to read them too!
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Timings / chapters:
Squall - 0:17
Rinoa - 7:40
Quistis - 14:26
Selphie - 18:20
Zell - 23:18
Irvine - 27:26
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[@FF-Gamr]

What's your favourite bit of trivia about Final Fantasy VIII? If you enjoy this video, please do hit the like button and subscribe as well if you aren’t already ^_^ thanks!

[@XXPYR0XX]

1:51 so dumb why the hell give him a girl face. why not have the same face thats on the cover of the ps1 game

[@comochinjodesyoutuve]

Final Fantasy 8: 102 What happens if you defeat the spider robot X-ATM092 before it destroys the car before reaching the beach? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmizk4Whlt-rnLc

[@Jotari]

Can't believe they invented a character who uses social media and called her bloody Selphie in the 90s.

[@FF-Gamr]

True 😆 that's some foreshadowing right there

[@Seekarr]

@@FF-Gamr Well, to be fair, they did have personal and/or event websites that would later be called "blogs" in the 1990s. Can't speak for the "Selphie" name though 😀

[@redjoker365]

@@Seekarr A bit anachronistic of a term for the 90s. We called them forum posts or online diaries back then, though we would call those sites blogs today

[@comochinjodesyoutuve]

Final Fantasy 8: 102 What happens if you defeat the spider robot X-ATM092 before it destroys the car before reaching the beach? jajaajaj kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmizk4Whlt-rnLc

[@TechGamesAU]

I hate that people pushed this narrative that Squall tried to hit Rinoa. He didn’t even come close to hitting her, he made a *GESTURE* toward her.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, I have to admit that I never really interpreted it as anything too serious. Maybe the graphical limitations actually helped in that respect. I was quite surprised that anyone would see it that way.

[@blazervol3357]

I thought the same thing. Like a throw your hand up in the air kind of thing. When I played when I was younger (probably about 10-13) I still never was under the impression that he was trying to actually hit her

[@PrettyGothBoi6085]

I agree. It looks like he made a frustrated gesture with no intention to hit her, and she flinched to be playful.

[@Yukari_MAiG]

Yeah. You know it's like when you're annoyed at a close friend and just make some gesture pretending to hit them. You aren't actually trying to hit them.

[@jootpepet]

Noone is pushing this. It's the writer himself who admjtted "He shouldnt be hitting her. Its really not good to have a guy hitting a girl." 02:24 So basically we're all wrong and Squall is actually a wife beater. Writer's own words.

[@bigdirtygaming6429]

I never thought Squall was actually trying to hit Rinoah, I always read it as playfully swatting. "F%ck off, leave me alone. "

[@Weniavin1206]

Same!

[@FF-Gamr]

Same here tbh, it's not really something I can imagine him doing

[@bethbendall2586]

I thought so too, I thought he was swatting at her - nothing violent. He doesn’t seem the type.

[@matthewjones3481]

I always thought he was just trying to put his arm around her.

[@NoName-hj6cs]

The only way this works with the premise and story is if that's the memory he experienced at that moment Meaning that it was based on frustration and not violence Ff8 is based on the perspective of squall and to a lesser degree his friends to heart

[@octagonseventynine1253]

Squall, Laguna and Raine all have water-based names and it’s implied they are father, mother and son.

[@FF-Gamr]

Those moments between Laguna and Raine in the ending FMV ... always emotional 😔

[@KamPOV01]

Number 46. A notable person you missed who wears glasses - Auron from Final Fantasy X ☺️

[@FF-Gamr]

I know, I can't believe I missed him of all people - especially as he is The Boss 😎😅

[@maartenquick6188]

Barrett from FFVII?

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

​@maartenquick6188 He doesn't wear them all the time, though. ;-)

[@jaimesmexia-santiago3252]

I mean you could argue that he said glasses and not sunglasses 😂 though I still agree with you lol

[@1Nostrand1]

And Hojo.

[@bandoelsarkas1321]

What keeps me coming back to this game is the Renzokuken + Lionheart

[@FF-Gamr]

Such an awesome weapon 🔥

[@bandoelsarkas1321]

@@FF-Gamr I meant it to be the last limitbreak move for Squall which happened to have the same name.... That 9999 dmg was awesome at the time

[@FF-Gamr]

@@bandoelsarkas1321 ah, I see. You're right though, it is always awesome to see!

[@Celanoj]

Of course Rihnoa has the best compatability with cerebus. He’s a dog.

[@FF-Gamr]

Now that you mention it... 😅

[@alexware6803]

He's three dogs!

[@chrysm6842]

Fact #102 : FF VIII is a masterpiece !

[@FF-Gamr]

Agreed! 💯

[@Usernamehear]

That doesn't work because that's a fact we did know. Not a fact we didn't know.

[@juliorosal9698]

Seifer tidbitt. His sword/gunblade style is highly influenced by Laguna. As Laguna played the knight in the show "knight and sorceress" in game. So Seifer is using galbadian style. Could be just reusing assets but chronologically speaking in game, it connects

[@FF-Gamr]

I really like that fact, the way that Seifer's kinda arrogant stance was influenced by what he saw. Which would be part of his romantic dream to be the hero/knight. It makes a lot of sense when you realise it.

[@juliorosal9698]

@@FF-Gamr also could be the reason hes into being the sorceresses knight thing. Living the childhood dream

[@second_second_]

I love that we can listen to what Squall is thinking in the bracket textboxes. Maybe that's why some people might not like Squall, but it gives us more depth on his character development. I guess Cloud is similar too, but it's just we couldn't see what in Cloud's mind (isnt it?), so fans are free to imagine whatever character he is.

[@FF-Gamr]

I suppose it's tricky - from a story telling point of view - whether or not you show a character's inner thoughts and feelings, because you're right, that certainly impacts the way we see them and understand them.

[@juleswinnfield9097]

I remember getting this when it first dropped in 1999, all nicely wrapped in its plastic, the cover of Rinoa and Squall embraced, the manual waiting to be read and savoured, and those discs looking back at me waiting to be played... Wish I kept it. No idea what happened to it.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, call me old fashioned but I wish physical games still came with manuals. At least some come with art books but you have to pay for the collector edition to get them...

[@Beeyo176]

Some of them had the pages for notes in the back. I never used them, but I miss them now​@@FF-Gamr

[@rta23cerberus]

The Rinoa is Ultimecia fan theory is a lot better than the dumb ass “squall is dead and dreaming”, yeah shot through the shoulder in a world of magic totally says “he died”

[@timfredericks5018]

Fact 103 Zell's tattoo strongly resembles the boxers Mike Tysons face tattoo

[@FF-Gamr]

Zell taught him everything he knows 🥊

[@PhilWithCoffee]

Since FFVIII came out before the face tattoo, does that mean that Tyson copied Zell?

[@timfredericks5018]

@@PhilWithCoffee wow, that's a huge coincidence!

[@akiraasmr3002]

Kitase actually back tracked on that statement he made about Rinoa not being Ultimecia. Theres a video on youtube you can watch where he addresses it called "Yoshinori Kitase retracts his statement on Rinoa/Ultimecia fan theory being debunked". He said he didn't think so but there are 2 other writers including Tetsuya Nomura and someone else might have made the Ultimecia being Rinoa from the future a thing.

[@FF-Gamr]

Oh yeah, good point, I think I did read that about him saying that the others may have had different ideas or interpretations that didn't make it into the game. Still, it's interesting that it wasn't an aspect of the story that he initially considered.

[@JackSparrow-ct4mh]

@@FF-Gamr in dissidia they are defenitly teasing with R=U

[@wren7195]

Love Rinoa, but Selphie best girl. She's unhinged, which is hilarious since her weapon relies on hinges. I'll, I'll go now.

[@FF-Gamr]

Can't argue with that 😆🚂

[@GeaForce]

Ultimecia was bullied in middle school because she had an speech impediment and cound't spell the letter "C" korrectly

[@FF-Gamr]

Ah so that's why she was so mad 😅

[@adolcristin3526]

The true reason for Time kompression!!!!

[@WiredRoot]

Found your video on the FF8 subreddit. It's always a pleasure to hear other people share their interest für my favorite FF title.

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you 😁 I know it's not everyone's favourite FF, but I've loved it since the first time I played it

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Squall was voiced by the guy who played ANGEL!? 😮

[@ReisSns]

i was surprised as well xD

[@derekjordangregg7468]

@wiseguy240Winston those lames ain’t squall. Squall has never been voiced.

[@Tesla2586]

@@derekjordangregg7468 Whatever you say man.

[@BranBal]

​@@derekjordangregg7468 Whatever

[@nOT_sURE08]

​@@derekjordangregg7468 whatever

[@MrIronJustice]

Thank you for actually making this 100 interesting facts and not 100 well known facts ripped straight from Wikipedia.

[@brianmaglalang9409]

Me and my friends screaming for Lionheart after the Renzokuken. This is the most memorable moment for me.

[@FF-Gamr]

100% - never get tired of seeing it 💯

[@stephanbursztynsky1663]

In regards to using Devour on Rinoa during the boss fight against Sorceress Adelle you CANNOT actually use devour on Rinoa. I’ve tried many times on the PS-1 version, the re-release on the PS-3 and up through the PlayStation marketplace and even on the FF VIII remaster from a couple years ago. Every time I try to use Devour on Rinoa it just lets me confirm the action but when a character starts to move forward to perform the action they stop(like when they move to use “draw-stock” and it fails the draw then it shows a text box saying “Cannot Devour!” and resumes active time in the battle. Despite what the game’s strategy guide and online sources say you CANNOT devour Rinoa as doing so means an automatic game over and failure in the fight.

[@Queen3210]

I've always wondered what type of flavoured bread Zell liked since I first learned that his favourite food was actually flavoured bread (and not hot dogs). Glad to know that it's Melon Bread! thanks for that!

[@FF-Gamr]

No problem 😊 speaking of melon pan, if you haven't tried it but have a chance to, I'd certainly recommend it (as long as you enjoy sweet things!)

[@Queen3210]

@@FF-GamrI do very much enjoy sweet things! I'll hunt for them and check it out! Thanks!

[@Jeneric81]

Ultimecia being Rinoa is way too teased to be completely accidental

[@FF-Gamr]

While I'm not 100% sure about the theory, there are ways in which I think it makes sense. Whether we'll ever get it totally confirmed by Nojima or Nomura, or included in a potential remake, is another matter!

[@tmacm2237]

We need a Parasite Eve remake.

[@FF-Gamr]

Definitely 💯

[@ZeChADPK]

Another fact, Rinoa is named Linoa in some other versions of the game Which, not only would be closer to the Japanese pronunciation but also would mean something like 'late' Which adds some more to the ultimecia theory and time compression Especially if we read squall evolution through the game as a personification of grief With his gforce ring named griever, used by ultimecia, future Rinoa grieving her lost of squall, trying to compress time to relive her happy memory of him forever Also going to the 5 stages of grief, being quite obvious with her last monologue before you defeat her, even with the mistranslation. And there is many more 'coincidences' for it to be just that I won't point them all but at some point it can't be ignore and I wouldn't be surprise if one of the author actually wrote it that way, not kitase obviously 😂

[@alessandromelito565]

Japanese pronunciation is Rinoa. Linoa is far, not close.

[@zockerking2061]

Not really. Japanese people dont pronounce a "r" really. Not exactly like an L, but more a L then a R.

[@jessl1934]

​@@zockerking2061They pronounce an r sound that is extremely close to how we pronounce r in English in some contexts. The ɹ sound is very similar to the ɾ sound.

[@second_second_]

"She's just wearing bigger shoes that day, who knows." 🤣

[@FF-Gamr]

I couldn't resist 😂

[@sophmys7653]

Rinoa being Ultimecia makes the story 100x better. Considering Ultimecia just appears out of nowhere and has no character development. Also Irvine looks like Micheal Jackson.

[@FF-Gamr]

I do wonder whether or not they would alter the story to include it if the game was ever remade. That does seem like a big *if* though sadly...

[@ReisSns]

the "Squall is dead" theory is still one of the dumbest things i have heard like..wth xD

[@FF-Gamr]

I have to say, it never occurred to me during my first times playing the game, until I saw it on forums years later and just thought "wait, what?"

[@Tesla2586]

I dunno. I have seen VG characters die from less than being impaled by a giant Ice Lance. So its possible. But Squall has Main character plot armor. So he wouldnt die from something like that.

[@allgoodnamesaregone0]

It's as dumb as the Star Wars theory of Jar Jar being a Sith mastermind

[@PierreLucSex]

​@@allgoodnamesaregone0 no no no you can't compare those theories. The Jar Jar voice actor precisely said that he worked his voice with this possibility well engaged. It would have been a similar plot device than the one used by Isaac Asimov (I won't say who this guy is out of respect for you) in the end of the Foundation saga. Squall is dead is galaxies away more dumb. Darth Jar is actually an excellent theory and the only one redeeming the ever sinking plot of Star CGI Wars.

[@ubergamer2010]

I feel like the demo including Rinoa and having her be the only one who can summon GFs was a hint at her powers/role in the story (strong magic user --> eventually a sorceress). They did the exact same thing by including Aerith in the FF7 demo.

[@FF-Gamr]

That's a good point, the demos do seem similar in that respect!

[@wolfpackflt670]

Leveling up in FF8 is a fools errand.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yep, I learned that the hard way when I got all my characters to lvl 100 on my first playthrough and couldn't finish it 😅

[@YaddyHyrule]

@@FF-Gamr I only recently learned this the hard way. I never had much trouble beating it naturally at level 100 (I have literal thousands of hours in this game spread across all the versions, including OG PS1 on discs), but I recently did a challenge run of my own making which was No GF/Magic usage, No drawing (with the exception of drawing GFs), Junctioned GFs are permanently junctioned and cannot ever be removed, No using the "switch" menu command to swap character junctions or magic inventory, No character/boss/GF card modding, Item -> magic refining is allowed, SeeD exams separated by disc in increments of 10. And beating the game like THAT at level 100 was a decent challenge lol. Died at final form Ultimecia quite a few times with that.

[@RevenantAD]

I love that Zell's final weapon is also the name of a game square released that has fighting game aspects and rpg elements

[@jamiecranton]

That original concept art of squall looks so much like lightning I wonder if he retooled the design

[@FF-Gamr]

There's probably a good chance that certain character designs influenced others later down the line, whether consciously or subconsciously

[@nadstengco2591]

#6 I don't think he should have made a statement about that because for me as a gamer and a kid back then, I took it as somewhat of just a sway.. Like swaying a fly that is annoying.. Never in my mind did I took it as Squall hitting her.. They were so pixelized ffs so how can you ever come up with that.??

[@alessandromelito565]

Plus we are talking about people who shoot and take fire blast, thunder and dragon fire. What's that thing?

[@nadstengco2591]

@@alessandromelito565 yep

[@jameswulkson8904]

Barret wears glasses although it's only for a little while and in remake only when he's embarrassed or emotional

[@FF-Gamr]

Yet not as much in Rebirth, even though they're actually out in the wider world and not stuck in gloomy Midgar

[@KrogerCareBear]

They should have also mentioned that the Gunblade in Parasite Eve II actually functioned like Squall's trigger mechanic in Final Fantasy 8. Hitting the R1 bumper when Aya's attack landed would cause an explosion for MASSIVE damage. I feel like it's been 10+ years since I've played PE2 but if I remember right; the Gunblade trigger was the second most powerful attack in the game, next to the railgun that took a full 5 seconds to charge up each individual shot.

[@hayden-tan]

Regarding # 15 : If you press R2 while Aya is swinging the gunblade, it will deal extra damage, which is similar to FF8's mechanics.

[@FF-Gamr]

Very cool detail 🔥

[@jamesgoatcher]

I've played through FFVIII close to 20 times and never knew about #7, the Mr. Aki reprimand scenario. Looks like I have to squeeze another play-through into 2024!

[@FF-Gamr]

I can't believe it took me so long to find out about it either! 25 year old games still have their surprises...

[@ThommyofThenn]

I wonder if the Squall is dead is also a Beatles reference at some level? A real life urban legend theorizing that Paul McCartney died in the mid 60s in a car crash and was replaced by a doppelganger

[@FF-Gamr]

Well, I have to say, I never imagined that connection being made!

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@FF-Gamr I looked through the first few dozen comments and saw no one had mentioned it. Even if unintentional, it may still be viewed as a bit of wordplay humor. Thanks for the video btw. I've only played 30 hours of the FFVII remaster so im interested in the other titles somewhat

[@chrisrounds1242]

Do not forget about Auron wearing glasses in Final Fantasy 10. In Final Fantasy 14, you can wear it as a glamour accessory as part of the avatar’s character.

[@FF-Gamr]

I feel bad for forgetting about Auron given that he's an all-time classic character!

[@chrisrounds1242]

@@FF-Gamr no worries

[@TrueTydin]

You missed Auron, those babies are prescription sunglasses hahaha

[@FF-Gamr]

Maybe they are 😎

[@mekobaby101]

I really love this video! FF 8 was the first that got me into the series and I absolutely still have great love for this game! Thanks for all the awesome facts!! Also, I really CANNOT imagine Kitase or anyone going with the ''Squall is Dead'' theory over the ''Rinoa is Ultimecia'' theory. Making Ultimecia be a more fractured, future version of Rinoa would actually make a lot of sense and flesh out both of their characters more. Squall being dead for literally 3/4 of the game would really be awful, and I'm not sure how they could implement that without butchering the game.

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you 😊 that's good to hear! And yes, I pretty much agree with you! Squall being dead is an interesting enough concept at first, but then beyond that, I can't see how it could ever really work, narratively. Rinoa = Ultimecia, however, seems much more plausible given that we don't really know much about Ultimecia's origins, and barely actually get to see her in the game.

[@HAZARDOUS88]

Excellent video. Thanks!!

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you 😊

[@dolie3083]

Selphie did remember. She said its because she hadnt had interactions with gf till she came to balamb.

[@second_second_]

Thank you for adding that translations! 5:09. Actually Squall is not that cold, i believe, from his japanese phrases/nuances. And sometimes it's rather funny.. "Whatever" is easier though, but makes him appear kinda cold or indifferent..? But his japanese phrases show that he seems to be not that indifferent. Maybe i should play both languages. Amazing we can have two different characters in one game. Like how I found english lunafreya differ greatly from japanese lunafrena in ff15

[@FF-Gamr]

Well, I suppose that's the thing with translations / localisations - whoever is actually doing the translating will always have their own interpretations of certain aspects that are hard to translate like-for-like. Not to mention phrases, sayings and idioms that are culture-specific. It's definitely a tricky thing to get right!

[@Schiebi86]

in 8th grade, my classmate julia looked just like quistis. i was scary much they looked alike. Even our teachers, our parents and other said she looks likes her.

[@adolcristin3526]

I bet she's so pretty

[@solomonnichols2969]

Not sure if it’s still possible. But on the original version on the PS one, a second player can be used. Only in battles. Should be in the battle menu. So technically, the part in Charlie’s Angels was correct.

[@scitizenkane1]

FF9? yes, FF8? No 2 player.

[@kellypanda4243]

This was great. Would love to see you cover some of the other Ff games.

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you 😁 I'm hoping to do some more like this as well, it just takes a bit of time for me to put them together. But hopefully the next video will be ready fairly soon!

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

I had no idea Squal was based on River Phoenix!!! That makes so much sense.

[@PierreLucSex]

Why ?

[@SquallLion1]

french players thought Adel is a girl because the french word used( "sorcière"=witch/sorceress) instead of "sorcerer" lol. However, even Zell himself tell Adel is a boy in crude term. in FRENCH VERSION, Zell loves 'bretzel'(Pretzel), not hot dogs ; the erotic magazine is not 'Girl next door' but 'comtesse Cochonou' (= Piggy countess) etc. about speedrun, French version is preferred because less word characters in dialogues.

[@VoidVintage]

2:28 - Fujin: 😮

[@gaaraandami]

I never thought that was Swuall hitting her jsut thought it was him saying Hey! Stop that and her being a bit dramatic!

[@FF-Gamr]

That's what I thought too

[@SunJianMaster]

i like it, good work, it is my favorit FF^^

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you 😊 that's good to hear!

[@nicoledin7091]

I like the long hair on squall

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah it's a good look!

[@balthasar369]

i dont know about point nr 25. For me how i view the story, the naming of the necklage being the gf she uses. I have a feeling they dont understand their own story lol ^^

[@FF-Gamr]

Kitase has actually addressed the theory again in a more recent interview - which I only saw after making the video - in which he said along the lines of "I can't speak for Nojima and Nomura and their interpretations of the connection between Rinoa and Ultimecia". So maybe there is more to it after all

[@alexdoyle4997]

#60 think there was a line somewhere that she did not use GF while at Trabia Garden so maybe she did still remember.

[@FF-Gamr]

I suppose the nature of memory and the fact that it isn't always reliable could mean that it could be 'manipulated', so to speak, into making you think you didn't do something, when in fact you actually did, and vice versa

[@mikec5400]

I want to know what the devs were thinking making Rinoa look like that in Dissidia. Turned the girl next door into middle aged mehlf who smokes too much

[@rtjb2074]

Loved this video!

[@FF-Gamr]

Thank you! 😁

[@Seekarr]

Ultimecia is more like the Zemus/Zeromus of the game, while Edea is the Golbez. If Lunarians are the equivalent of sorceresses, then Rinoa would be like another female Lunarian, perhaps living on the "Earth" rather than from the moon.

[@YuunaAndCuddles]

Edea is a playable character... for a short while.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yes, sadly not for long

[@ttiwaz4398]

I'm playing FFXV atm and it's a good game. But I really miss the old FF:s. Old FF:s have got more replayable value for a geek like myself. I have mastered 8, 9, 10, 10-2, 13. 13-2 and I always come back for more. The only FFs I haven't finished were FF7 and FF12 (not including 1-6 and online games). I guess I have got a quirky taste.

[@BCOG1691]

They really shud have used the japanese dialogue as we cud have Sassy Squall.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, it would have been pretty funny 😂 though "whatever" will also be forever iconic among FF fans thanks to him

[@legatomodi3522]

At 25, even if Rinoa herself in her body becomes ultimecia is irrelevant to Ultimecia having aspects of Rinoa imprinting in her identity, like Greiver being a knight for her, because for Ultimecia to obtain the powers she must get them from Rinoa in the future or someone who did. So, an excuse for Ultimecia being somewhat like Rinoa is inherent. It's just a wonder how close in lineage she was to rinoa and how much jealousy and possessiveness and other negative traits were hiding in Rinoas mind before hand

[@FF-Gamr]

It's reasons like this that I still like the theory - it opens up a lot of interesting ideas for discussion. I do wonder how they would flesh things out if the game was remade.

[@legatomodi3522]

@FF-Gamr I for one think if the theory is true it ties everything together perfectly. I consider fiction to belong to the people if it stays in their consciousness long enough. It may come to pass Rinoa and Ultemecia are the same person no matter what the creators say.

[@Beliasa01]

Jihl Nabaat, from 13, wears glasses too

[@annlee6102]

Fun Fact: Barret & Gladio share the same voice actor in Germany. He also voiced Kratos (God of War), Nomad (Ghost Recon) and Artjom (Metro).

[@Faladrin]

Cid wears glasses often (goggles perhaps, pince nez I think in some cases too).

[@Sencilia]

Rinoa is Ultimecia is less likely to be added to a remake but Squall is Dead is? Ugh, I honestly don't like the Squall is dead theory.

[@FF-Gamr]

I should have added - though I only saw it after making the vid - that Kitase did actually say in a more recent interview that Nojima or Nomura might have had their own interpretations on how Ultimecia and Rinoa are connected, so he couldn't rule out the possibility

[@Sencilia]

@@FF-Gamr That's good lol

[@simchi5611]

I didn't interpret that move as Sauall attempting to hit Rinoa! Just shoo or dismiss her.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah I know what you mean, I didn't see it that way either

[@katerinarihova5346]

Barret from FFVII wears sunglases. ;)

[@FF-Gamr]

That's fair haha. I guess I should have differentiated between characters who seem to wear glasses for fashion purposes, and those who wear them because they need them. Then again - maybe Quistis is just a hipster and even she's just wearing them because of the style! If I ever get to interview Nomura, I'll have to ask him ^_^

[@espourtoe]

there were some fun ones in here! to add to the glasses list, koana from the latest expansion of FFXIV! 💚💜

[@FF-Gamr]

Thanks 😁

[@no_mark2805]

The funny thing is that the "rinoa = ultimecia" possibility would actually be cool tho...

[@FF-Gamr]

Well, at the very least, it seems more plausible than Squall being dead for most of the game!

[@dadadies]

Rinoa is definitely Ultimecia. Even if the creator doesn't know it or didn't intend it. How can the creator know if Rinoa is Ultimacia or not, if Ultimacia is from the future and has no in between from the present to the future to reveal anything about her. The creator has no way of knowing who Ultimacia is, because there is a void, both in the story and in the characters. All the creators know is that Ultimacia is a sorcerer from the future and thats it. FF8 is so convoluted, especially in the time travel and time compression part, that even the creators doesn't know what is what. Ultimacia definitely is Rinoa from the future. Its what makes sense. Well, that's how I see it. But more likely the creators knows it, and for some reason cannot reveal it. Maybe they are stuck in a time compression themselves. This is the most practical reality, that the creators know that Rinoa is Ultimacia, but they simply deny it to keep the audience guessing and interested. The foreshadowing and signs are all there. It is the most obvious thing ever. Yet it can never be confirmed ever, until the creators officially establishes who Ultimacia is by developing the next part of final fantasy 8. Until then they can deny it all they want.

[@FF-Gamr]

I mean, the theory makes sense to me. I don't think it takes anything away from the story whether the creators confirm it or not. And when you're playing around with the idea of time, that opens up all kinds of possibilities anyway, so it's not surprising that there's been speculation about it for years.

[@missenlee4745]

I think Zell is designed reference to Mike Tysons, especially his face tattoo

[@danielsnyder4331]

Legend of Dragoon came out around the same time rime as this I remember. Some of them had the demo discs for FFVIII. Just like how you would get Dino Crisis on PS1 demo disc for buying Resident Evil:Directors Cut. Or the demo disc for Resident Evil 3: Nemesis when buying Dino Crisis 2 for the PlayStation 1. Awesome fun days playing those and seeing the differences again on here. Thanks

[@ActionRan]

9:06 25# in fact! he backtracked that statement in another interview and said more or less that; in his vision its not true BUT! the other 2 persons who wrote this might have had it in mind. So you said, it is not certain that they are not the same person!

[@FF-Gamr]

That's true, sadly I only saw that interview after making the video. Still, it's interesting to know that he now hasn't ruled out the possibility of it being the case!

[@Shaunography]

Rinoa is a mistranslation of Lenora

[@zombiiexmassacre]

auran from ffx wears glasses, but are sun glasses

[@danielsnyder4331]

I wish they would re-create the Triple Triad Cards from VIII. They're very expensive on eBay for Originals. I've collected all of the Bandai figures that they released which are awesome ❤

[@FF-Gamr]

Me too, that would be so cool and surely pretty easy for them to do, so I'm surprised they haven't. I do have some FF8 cards, but they're basically standard playing cards with various FF8 images/key art etc on them. Still love them though 😁

[@danielsnyder4331]

@@FF-Gamr those are the Poker Cards that had come packaged in a clear cassette-style like container, right? I have a few of those left that have survived the years. It's still trippy to me that Angelo is Griever in the future of FFVIII. Hopefully they will give FF VIII as much love and remake as VII. That would be sad if they skipped it and we lose out on them recreating the Triple Triad sets for retail with playmats

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, that sounds like the same ones! I can't even remember exactly which site I bought them from haha. We'll just have to see if it ever does get remade...

[@Joe_334]

Imagine if Ultimecia scaled off of how much you have Rinoa in the party. I would have had a hard time on the first playthrough I made it to her. I had Rinoa's Best Limit Break, and her ultimate weapon.

[@FF-Gamr]

That would have been a pretty cool dynamic actually, but yeah could also have made things a lot harder!

[@InsomniacMatt]

Number 46, Final Fantasy IV Cid wears goggles, does that count?

[@FF-Gamr]

Hmm, that's a good point, though I don't think I'd class goggles as glasses, unless he needed them to see...

[@ZoeBlacktail]

there is a fact about Irvine that I find intresting of all the facts about him; He is the youngest member in the team.

[@loganthrives]

I only stumbled across this video tonight so I don't know if you have another facts about FF8 video that includes these, so please ignore this comment if any of my infodumping is a repeat of something you've already done! Also I've only every played the North American release of the game on PS1, both the original and greatest hits versions, and then later got it on Steam just so I could get the contrived finish achievement, so if there is additional context or differences between those versions and the PAL or Japanese versions I'm not aware of them. Anyways, Rinoa lore dump incoming: One thing you missed that seems to lend fandom credence to the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory is that she has the ability to cast Apocalypse in Dissidia as one of her abilities. That's a spell you can only draw from Ultimecia at the end of FF8. Also, Ultimecia's Griever takes on the name Squall has for his ring, which you get to name in a cutscene with the two of them during the attack on Balamb garden by Galbadia garden right after he rescues her. The default name is Griever but it can be anything you choose (I always go with Fluffy). Squall also suggests in that scene that it holds a GF of some sort. Later on in the game, in the cutscene where Rinoa runs out of air as she's floating in space, the ring can be seen on a chain necklace she wears that also has her mother's wedding ring on it. She wanted Zell to make a copy of it for her because its cool, but they didn't get around to it before she fell into a coma, so she has the original ring still with her in that scene. What saves her after she runs out of air in space is never explained, but it could either be the fact that she's a sorceress now, or it could be that Griever saved her somehow. In either case, she has a connection to Squall's ring, and Ultimecia has a GF that adopts the name of it. (I shall junction myself... Unto Fluffy!) I know they said its not canon, but there are too many parallels and coincidences like that, and the ones you pointed out in the video for that not to have been at least an intended plot during the development of the game's story IMO. In Ultimecia's final dialogue in the last stage of the final battle she not only loses the accent, but implies some sort of regret, but you don't get to hear the full thing because once she gives the line "And...", any damaging attack to her will end the battle. You could throw 1 gil at her and win. Minor clarification, I don't know if you just didn't mention it or thought that she was a sorceress the whole time, but she was not actually a sorceress until Edea dumped her powers on her. Her gaining the Angel Wing limit break aboard the Ragnarok (where she also doesn't have her dog Angelo) is supposed to be a clue to her newfound powers. The way the sorceress powers pass around is interesting - at the beginning of the game, only Edea and Adel are sorceresses, with Adel already on ice in space. Edea is controlled by Ultimecia in the future but dumps her powers onto Rinoa so she can no longer be controlled. This puts Rinoa into a coma until she gets to space and is possessed into freeing Adel. When Adel expires, Rinoa gets a sorceress power dump again, but that's the catalyst for the time compression to launch forward to Ultimecia's time. When Ultimecia is defeated, there is a scene of her arriving in the past where present Squall is talking to past Matron, who explains that sorceresses cannot properly die unless they pass on their powers. Matron, Edea, also reveals that she is already a sorceress. This creates a bit of a time loop, where Ultimecia gives Edea the powers that she uses to control her later in her timeline. Back in the present time though, it also means that Rinoa is the only sorceress left in the world, having the combined powers of Adel and Edea (and, presumably, Ultimecia from her having gone into the past to give them to Edea). If there is another way sorceresses are made beyond them passing on their powers on to other young women, the game never tells us, though the time compression sequence does imply that there have been many more sorceresses throughout history. But, that's another mark in the Rinoa = Ultimecia fan theory's favour: If she's the only sorceress left in the world, then who else could Ultimecia be?? She would also know about the Junction Machine Ellone and of Ellone's power, if not during the adventure (a lot happens to her okay please leave my girl alone) then she might learn of it in the aftermath. My fan theory is that something happened in Ultimecia's past that turned her dark, and her desperation to access Ellone's power is so that she can try and change the past somehow, since Squall is somehow able to reach Rinoa through that power while she's floating in space - she can hear his voice. They are able to support Laguna Kiros and Ward through that same power by basically lending them their strength through that connection during critical moments in their past, facilitated by Ellone, where they temporarily inherit the junctions and GFs of your party and allow them to affect their decision making - something Laguna later refers to as 'the faeries' during the Winhill sequence. So not only can you experience the past through someone else, but you can make an impact as well. I think that's what Ultimecia was after, but she couldn't reach far enough back in time without accessing Ellone herself, and time would march on making the Junction Machine Ellone less and less effective, so? Time compression. Make time a smaller factor in the process or make all points in time accessible from that ruined future. I dunno it makes sense to my brain, lol. This game is a lot. Random tangent but in the scenes with Laguna in the past the singer Julia he goes to the hotel room of to chat is Rinoa's mother. He never returned because he got stuck in Esther and was heartbroken, so she wrote Eyes on Me and married Caraway instead while he escaped to Winhill to recover and where he married Raine instead. Rinoa doesn't like the song and if you select the right instruments to play it during the concert she gets mad and storms off. Kind of awkward that Rinoa and Squall's parents were a missed connection. Also she is still wearing a denim miniskirt in her character design but its high-waisted and is worn over a pair of black shorts that have zippers down the front of them. The skirt has kind of a weird design in that it has four round white buttons down the front of it instead of a zipper (I know this for cosplay reasons). I always figured that was why she was moving so weird in that one cutscene where she climbs the boxes - not a lack of athletic ability, but her range of hip movement was restricted by the skirt so she had to do a lot more work with her legs splayed out to either side, lol. No one gets a panty peek with the shorts on underneath but there are still sacrifices made for style, I guess. One last thing before my autism special interest for this game wears off for the night: You mentioned character heights but you didn't go into detail about their ages, specifically that all of them are teenagers. Most of them are 17 with Quistis and Seifer (and I think Irvine?) age 18. I just feel like that really puts certain moments in the game into perspective, like Quistis being a bit hot-headed and lovesick at times in spite of her putting on a front as a mature instructor, the random awkward talks about girls between the boys, the emotional outburst Squall has when everyone decides that Seifer must be dead, and Rinoa running off if she hears Eyes on Me. I first played this game in highschool and so it meant a lot to me to have characters who were immediately relateable, who had unfair expectations put on them at such a young age and were expected to fill the role of adults before they could even hope to be ready for it. And what does it mean for this world to have teenagers run off to provide mercenary support to a village across the ocean against an invading army as an exam/field trip?? It reminds me of something I heard in reference to Romeo & Juliet, the play, which helped make it make sense to me some time ago: They were teenagers. They should've been allowed to be teenagers.

[@samdavies2069]

102. Rinoa was run over by a steam roller, giving her a wide face.

[@catulusinferni8612]

About the glasses: do Aurons sunglasses count? I always thought it makes him look like an older guy who needs to protect his weakened eyes from bright light. like tainted reading glasses and not sunglasses. They never looked like a "coolness" thing to me, and he doesn't wear them (aka does not need them yet) when he is younger. But maybe thats because I grew up with many people with different kinds of blindness, since both of my parents have impaired vision and I saw the strengh of those people represented in him...

[@FF-Gamr]

You know, tbh I did just think it was a 'fashion' aspect of his design. I hadn't really considered that he might be wearing them because he needs to, but yeah, you could be right about that. I've never seen it mentioned by Nomura or anyone else, but maybe there's something in the Ultimania about it. Sadly I don't read Japanese so I don't know!

[@samdavies2069]

Whose squall voiced by in kh3? …. Oh wait….😢 forgot it was a Disney ride advert and not an ff Disney crossover game.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, it's a shame there wasn't more FF representation in Kingdom Hearts 3...

[@Shaiya99]

i like the other theor about rinoa x ultimecia more - a younger ultimecia gots rinoa power after she died and ultimecia gots more as just her power a piece of rinoas soul. witches transform , when she " absorb " other witches or many witches. maybe it was a key part from absorbing a piece of rinoas soul that ultimecia transform directly and so she try so change the time without do know why she want it because she handle like rinoa want it

[@jalonalexander23]

You missed Auron who wears glasses!

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, I'll concede that one haha but as I replied to someone else, I think his are more of a fashion statement than him needing them to see with, so it might be slightly different to Quistis! 😎

[@jabiraidan]

Hmm when I first played FF8, the band scene I never got the impression Squall was going to hit Rinoa because he wasn't shifting or looking at her, to me it looked like he was faigning annoyance to hide him liking the attention (a common attitude for tough guy characters made of butter in Japan). Honestly I think the "striking" comment was a posthoc comment because femanists got their knickers in a twist and wanted to find issue.

[@averagejoe1337]

Could you throw a “probably” in there before “didnt” some of us played that game like a career and most likely knew all that and more.

[@frankvermillon9576]

Haha i remember not being able to look up Selphoes skirt 😅

[@Goodpizzaa]

did the fact at 1:09 ever leak through some to the ff7 remake i wonder?

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, it may well have done haha 😅

[@second_second_]

Long-haired Squall?? Please release that as a special costume or whatever. He looks great in that art sketch

[@FF-Gamr]

Well, it ever does get remade then I'm sure there'll be plenty of mods for it anyway, like there are for FF7 Remake.

[@SterlingCandelario]

Auron wears sunglasses

[@FF-Gamr]

True 😎

[@dragon1011dk]

I still love FF8 with all its faults. Back then when it came out, I was a bit of an Emo kid... And I was always thinking "Whatever" all the time in my head, (LoL) and that was even before playing FF8.

[@FF-Gamr]

Squall would have been proud 😆

[@dragon1011dk]

@@FF-Gamr no, he would just say.... Whatever 😎

[@ashleyellis8875]

I had the PlayStation demo version it was the dollet mission but was not Rinoa I wonder if it because I had a uk port of the demo

[@FF-Gamr]

Oh, well it wouldn't surprise me if maybe different versions had be made... stuff like that happened more back then

[@marvolom787]

I'll say that both Sqall and Clive looks cursed without their scars/brand

[@FF-Gamr]

Yep, it's weird to see them without them! 😅

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

I noticed you pronounced Quistis's surname as Treep. :-) That IS how you pronounce it according to the Japanese characters as well. Her full name was intended to be pronounced as "Key-stis Treep" (Ki-su-tee-su Tu-ri-pu). However, because of "Qu" usually being pronounced as though you're saying "Queen", this wasn't elaborated on in English language media, so "Qwis-tis" became the presumed pronunciation instead.

[@FF-Gamr]

Yeah, it's one of those things that always makes me stop and think "I hope I'm saying this right", when it comes to certain characters' names! 😅

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

@FF-Gamr Yes. I was one of those that actually used "Kett-Shee" for Cait Sith, as I have Celtic-Euro heritage (it's from the Gaelic for "Cat of the Fairies"). I was more than a little narked that Square Enix US chose "Kate Sihth" as the pronunciation for the English Version of Rebirth. One thing that Squaresoft should have done was have a pronunciation guide in either their original PS Official Guides or their instruction booklets. That would have saved a lot of arguments.

[@scitizenkane1]

🙄

[@FF-Gamr]

Now that you mention it, that would have helped a lot! Then again, I suppose attitudes were quite different in the 90s, considering that things like Aeris being called that rather than Aerith didn't get corrected at the time, which is hard to imagine happening now...

[@aricente]

I’ll be honest, I really like this game but it is definitely the weirdest ff game I’ve ever played. So many half assed systems and concepts. And god the story. The story has to be the weirdest story. The way things just happen and everyone either reacts or doesn’t react always trip me up.

[@FF-Gamr]

It is a weird one to be fair. Sorceresses, space, and time compression was always going to be a heady mix. I do love it though 😆

[@williamlafond1319]

That' Ultimeciatly the problem when you don't flesh out vilains, compared ff7 to ff8 and ff9. The first one has no issue, you establish that Sephiroth is the bad guy at the very beginning. Then there's time compression, ultimecia and also Necron? Not the director, the writer or evne the president can decide who is not Ultimecia when they did'nt even make her make sense to begin with.

[@FF-Gamr]

I see where you're coming from, but I don't mind the whole "appear-out-of-nowhere" aspect of final bosses like Necron - though I wouldn't want to see it happen in every game. Also, I do agree that Ultimecia probably could have been fleshed out more. Not necessarily in the first half of the game, but when she leaves Edea and takes control of Rinoa, it would have been interesting to see her feature a bit more in some way.

[@Ais458]

Baku and Dr tot both wear glasses in ff9

[@FF-Gamr]

True, though to be fair they aren't playable characters