Why YOU DON'T WANT The People Mover To Return | Disneyland Construction Special

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Hey Brickey!

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@Kodachrome40
@Kodachrome40 2 жыл бұрын
At one time you could stand in Tomorrowland and see everything moving. Autopia cars, submarines, skyway, monorail, rocket jets, peoplemovers, and a carousal of progress.
@shansangr
@shansangr 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think fixing Tomorrowland would be that bad. I think a lot could be done by remodeling the buildings and rides that are already there. It would be better than doing nothing.
@VinluvAntonHandesbukia
@VinluvAntonHandesbukia 7 ай бұрын
Tragically,that’s by design.
@clinterekson
@clinterekson 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Disney execs are watching and listening to you.
@mushieslushie
@mushieslushie 2 жыл бұрын
Tomorrowland is like that meme of the guy running with a skateboard. He just keep running and never puts it under his feet.
@matthowlett6210
@matthowlett6210 2 жыл бұрын
My man says he’s being “realistic” yet is suggesting a full tear down of tommorrowland 😅😂. I LOVE your stuff brickey, but “my idea is great and would improve Disneyland” can be both correct and wildly unrealistic given the current administration at the same time. Saying “this is how they should change Tomorrowland” and then listing stuff that won’t happen in the next decade is less than realistic, in my view. Even if it is a great idea (which it is).
@RoseKat
@RoseKat Жыл бұрын
I’m always amazed at the number of attractions there used to be in the lands and now they spend billions and open a new land with one attraction and another one to come. As kids, we went from inner space to space mountain to Captain Eo, arcades, carousel of progress, people mover, mission to mars, autopia, circle vision, submarines and the terrifying but fun rocket Jets. Enjoyed the music at Tomorrowland terrace. Look at all the rides in fantasyland. Not every ride needs to be a rise of the resistance.
@jamlaw
@jamlaw 4 ай бұрын
Good point. I was sad when they added the new Star Wars land. It's so well done, but after my first exploration, I just kind of wander through it now on my way to other places, or maybe to look at merch. There doesn't actually seem to be much there (for me, at least).
@OgasBoyfriend
@OgasBoyfriend 2 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of taking the bait at the beginning. New Tomorrowland plus a possible new PeopleMover with budget is a perfect plan.
@youknowit.
@youknowit. 2 жыл бұрын
If the insist on having a DVC members lounge. They should have it in the abandoned Captain EO theatre.
@LMGVids
@LMGVids 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, but I just wanted to say there are a few wrong facts about the originality of the structures in Tomorrowland. Most of the buildings that you said were built in the 1967 Tomorrowland redesign were there since 1955, they've just been modified over the years. I also find it ironic how you focus on how Modern Disney should do things that are not Cheap and Easy while proposing to build a clone of the Beauty and the Beast ride from Tokyo. Disney has started cloning rides like Ratatouille and Tron from their international parks because it's Cheaper and Easier compared to designing a new ride/theme from the ground up. Personally, I hope Disney goes back to its old ways and creates new experiences with old ride systems like how they "Cloned" Tokyo's Indiana Jones Temple of the Crystal Skull from California's Temple of the Forbidden eye. Anyways keep up the good work.
@13vansman
@13vansman 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent ideas! I seem to be in the minority, but I love Star Tours v2. I like that new scenes can be added, keeping it the same but different. I would like to see Disney move it into Batuu, somewhere. That would allow Disney to add their latest Star Wars IP to at least this ride as the years move on, without too much investment. That would free up space in Tomorrowland, without sacrificing a ride. That would make way for your extended Main Street idea. It is definitely time for a huge makeover of Fantasyland and Tomorrowland. I thing that would help to bring in Tourists, locals would also have a renewed interest and they be more willing to part with their hard earned $. We can only hope that Disney will move forward and not just slap on a new coat of paint.
@joep4235
@joep4235 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, but have to disagree on this one... Replace Autopia and subs for more Buzz Light year and Webslinger rides? Disneyland is not a museum, but tossing everything with history is a mistake... Don't treat it like another Vegas...
@VaxxedStories
@VaxxedStories 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the sub lagoon with monorail passing over must be preserved. It's too iconic. But I disagree that saving the subs means keeping autopia. I think something else could be built on top of the sub show bldg even though it would take a little extra engineering effort.
@4541studios
@4541studios 2 жыл бұрын
You, my friend, have some of the best disney coverage on YT. The reverance for what was, the hope for what could be and the hard reality of the decline of what is disneycorp today. Keep it up!
@raphaelmarquez9650
@raphaelmarquez9650 2 жыл бұрын
Your ideal expansion of the Main Street U.S.A. area diminishes the original intent of the hub area, which has symmetrical paths leading to each land.
@JoshSchlottman
@JoshSchlottman 2 жыл бұрын
Realistically Disney isn’t going to pay up to totally redo Tomorrowland to how we all want it. Retro Tomorrowland from Walt’s Space Age era seems more logical. That’s where they were headed with the new TL entrance. Plays off the nostalgia of old school TL, it’s way cheaper, and solves the problem of having to constantly update TL. I do like your idea of splitting up the land with new Fantasyland & Main Street extension. Maybe could finally get Liberty Street + Edison Square like Walt wanted!
@raulzarco2063
@raulzarco2063 2 жыл бұрын
An exceptional video … I remember the 1970 Tomorrowland… the Kinetic Energy was spectacular. At the end of the video, I got emotional, this storytelling would make Walt proud.
@pinball541
@pinball541 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brickey! I love the video, & I too am nostalgic for the Tomorrowland I grew up with in the 70's, 80's, & 90's. Since part of the Carousel building houses the storage track for the Peoplemover, I think a good use for it is a dual purpose. Since Disney doesn't like to spend much money these days, just make the bottom floor a Tron End of Line Club. The top floor could eventually be the new Peoplemover Station. They could turn the old Magic Eye Theatre into the DVC Club. As far as Fantasyland, turn the old Fantasyland Autopia side into Frozen land, while keeping the Lagoon. In my opinion turn the Starcade into the Space Mountain queue, on both levels & reinstall a speed ramp to the second level. Return Pizza Planet back to a attraction, & bring back my favorite quick service restaurant "The Space Place". And finally the old Peoplemover Station, take out the tracks in the middle of the lands entrance. Just connect the tracks from the Buzz Building to Star Tours. Put the Rocket Jets back on top of the building, but use the old Peoplemover station as queue space for the Rocket Jets. Just curious to what you think of this idea? Hello from Phoenix Arizona ❗🔥
@liamhawn1414
@liamhawn1414 6 ай бұрын
The end of your paragraph sounds what disny could do since Walt also said Disneyland will never be complete
@DerekHoiem
@DerekHoiem 2 жыл бұрын
Brickey. This one goes deep with me. I grew up going to the Classic Tomorrowland. Inner Space. Peoplemover. RocketJets 🚀 on top of the platform. (they were terrifying at that height. a teenager’s dream). I agree with much of your assessment but not all. No one mentions this fact: Disney did away with attractions that let guests throw things onto other guests. (There was a day where people were cordial enough that this didn’t happen.) If the Peoplemover comes back, each car will be sealed like a gondola. I agree that the Launch Bay building is a waste of space and function. However, with the announcement of the lounge, Disney management has now committed to a “No transformation” strategy. The Peoplemover is not the problem, management’s small thinking, and cost cutting, is. I love the Peoplemover and I’d love to see it come back. But you don’t need Launch Bay to do it. I do think that Autopia should become Arendelle and thus Fantasyland. I agree on that point. Buzz Lightyear isn’t going away, nor Space Mountain. I think everything else is up for grabs. So I’m for a “part nostalgia” and “part Fantasyland” and “part reboot” strategy.
@millcity9711
@millcity9711 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the Launch Bay building also houses the Peoplemover storage track.
@DerekHoiem
@DerekHoiem 2 жыл бұрын
@@millcity9711 I did not know this. Great point. It does look like they are going down the road of a return to the "classic tomorrowland" with the refurbishment of the entrance, the white "spires" of the tomorrowland stage, etc. Do you think Autopia will stay?
@caldwellcoug
@caldwellcoug 2 жыл бұрын
I’m confused. What’s your stance on the most iconic Tomorrowland attraction, the churro cart?
@nf1nk
@nf1nk 2 жыл бұрын
I bet a really creative organization could turn the lower floor of the launch bay into an interesting dark ride without changing the exterior.
@MrGregBMX
@MrGregBMX 2 жыл бұрын
Brickey, the story telling and video editing only gets better and better. I always appreciate the research and thinking behind these videos.
@ericdiaz4437
@ericdiaz4437 2 жыл бұрын
I’m new to your channel and have become a big fan in a short time. While I’d LOVE an almost total teardown of Tomorrowland, I just don’t see them springing for it. I honestly feel the land’s problems are largely aesthetic. The lack of cohesion is appalling. Galactic Grill looks like it’s in a 70s outlet mall. New facades/interior refreshes for the buildings would go a great way in fixing the land. But Innoventions should go entirely, and the Magic Eye theater should too.
@willrontani5894
@willrontani5894 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure I agree with all your points…. But I think there are some great observations. I am uncertain about the points of many of the commenters either. Tomorrowland was best when the future was on the move. With Galaxy’s Edge it is something of a remnant of Walt’s vision. The false narrative here is that people do not understand futurism is always more about predicting the present. Which means Tomorrowland needs to be constantly refreshed. Today, we have a future is mothballed. We need kinetic vibe. Peoplemover is integral to that. So all I see is a future that is mothballed, static, subject to IP that overstays it’s welcome. But what we don’t need is more fantasyland, or more Main Street. We need execs that understand what futurism is. I do not have faith in Chapek to have that kind of vision and if they couldn’t come up with a solution under Iger, I doubt they have enough vision for today. I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
@edstrong597
@edstrong597 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brickey, love your channel, keep up the good work. I have to say you really shined in this video. I enjoyed this video so much. Your passion for Disneyland shines in this video. I agree a people mover for the sake of a people mover is a lame band aide. Your shrinking of Tomorrow Land and expanding its neighbors is intriguing. Im sure if they let their top Imagineers loose on it with a big budget it would be Amazing. A roller coaster that is a sled from Arendel or riding the waves with Moana . Maybe a themed restaurant inside a castle like Jasmine’s or Aerial’s would be a huge hit. I even think they could keep an Autopia if part of the track went under the Fantasy Land expansion and it was like you were driving in the lower level of a future city in electric cars. With a smaller or no Autopia Tomorrow Land isn’t really losing much space. If they layered and themed the new Tomorrow Land it could become a park attraction. Instead of something you walk through to get to Space Mountain. I have to say I like Star Tours. I would prefer it gets moved instead or removed. Let’s hope the Disney executives have a vision for a brighter Tomorrow ( Land ). Thanks for all your videos.
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 2 жыл бұрын
I'm of the mindset that Tomorrowland's layout is almost alright, that is, if Disney Co. actually populated all of their real estate. Buildings are VERY expensive so tearing them down and spending upwards of a billion dollars for new ones is simply not going to happen. Disney will not be hiring Grimshaw Architects, as they did in Shanghai, for all new buildings. These buildings all need extreme facade -ectomies NOT like the kind in the 90s but ones that take some of them down to their respective steel and concrete structures. They can then all be made more coherent. Had Disney not updated Orlando's Tormorrowland its Logans Run aesthetic would still look futuristic. That's why they are slowly trying to put it back. Disneyland is not that dissimilar. Despite what people say, the aesthetics of the Tomorrowlands never became the present.
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 6 ай бұрын
“facade-ectomies” is brilliant 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@libertytree73
@libertytree73 2 жыл бұрын
Well done 👏👏👏👏
@mohutch7863
@mohutch7863 2 жыл бұрын
I have decided, I need a team up/collab video with you and Adam the Woo. Great video, and I couldn’t agree more with your take on tomorrowland.
@JTKell
@JTKell 2 жыл бұрын
It's happened before! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfRf6ywi7FopLs
@J_Pike
@J_Pike 2 жыл бұрын
I love the deep dive. Your talent in story telling is in full effect with this amazing piece of content. Thank You.
@Banjo_Tails
@Banjo_Tails 2 жыл бұрын
bias much :)
@J_Pike
@J_Pike 2 жыл бұрын
@@Banjo_Tails Thanks for the reply. It helps promote the content.
@Banjo_Tails
@Banjo_Tails 2 жыл бұрын
@@J_Pike If i don't comment on some videos i am at least thumbs up them.
@J_Pike
@J_Pike 2 жыл бұрын
@@Banjo_Tails another reply even more support. You are the best. Thanks brother from down under.
@disneygirljamie9974
@disneygirljamie9974 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the Autopia cars NEED to be electric. The gas fumes are toxic for cast members and guests! My son got sick waiting to exit and had to leave the park once with a headache and vomiting.
@marxdesign
@marxdesign 2 жыл бұрын
Is not the People Mover just the Tram on a briidge?
@MrExtraordinaryEmily
@MrExtraordinaryEmily 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a hard reboot of Tomorrowland and ave been begging for one for years 😭 but I don’t think disney will do it for a long time so if they want to make a small update like people mover I am excited ! Especially since this attraction is more for magic keys.
@Believeinthemagic17
@Believeinthemagic17 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos with historical footage. Great coverage and thoughts on Tomorrowland.
@QuincyDisneyVegan
@QuincyDisneyVegan 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the America Sings attraction loaded on the top floor alongside the Tron Speed tunnel. Before the Speed Tunnel was incorporated over that part of the PeopleMover route, just as seen in WDW we passed the same model of Progress City that's now at Florida at Magic Kingdom. The Carousel building's ground floor was used for storage, as many of the animatronics used in America Sings were on swivel stages and elevator lifts that rose up from the lower level pit throughout the presentation. Even before America Sings, during it's Carousel of Progress days and on into its Innovention years (Pre- Star Wars Launch Bay which moved the entrance to the ground floor), the second floor was always the way to enter the attractions that were hosted in that building. My favorite part of entering that building was walking up to the top of the ramp and having to wait for the entrance doors to revolve back to the start position, because the auditorium and outer walls of the structure were on a track that rolled on cue around the stage which sat stationary with its own automated moving elements.
@daphneleah4210
@daphneleah4210 2 жыл бұрын
Tomorrowland Terrace is pretty great. It’s nice to have a place to dance.
@TheProteanGeek
@TheProteanGeek 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't want the people mover" *immediately dislikes in solidarity with Offhand Disney* I'll give the video a watch though. EDIT: Jokes above aside I do mostly agree with the argument put forward here.
@Pab-B
@Pab-B 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a ride like Journey to the Center of the Earth at Tokyo Disney Sea would fit in that space. I think the theme would work along with the water elements of the lagoon.
@jasonharris3873
@jasonharris3873 6 ай бұрын
I would love a new reimagined tomorrow land. It’s been a run down defunct joke for many years. We spend very little time there. The food is horrible and there is so much wasted space. Walt never imagined the park as something only for the rich. That is the direction they keep heading. They charge more for everything and offer less. How about skipping the 10th marvel movie and put some money back into the park.
@moochydacat
@moochydacat 2 жыл бұрын
Love the effort on the maps overlays and transitions. Very cool touch.
@Lbrisbois2000
@Lbrisbois2000 2 жыл бұрын
"Trust me, they'll also love whatever comes next." Great quote and it resonates with me for sure. Tomorrowland needs to change. I go there to ride Space Mountain but unlike any other land, I rarely go there just to hang out. Sitting on a bench in Tomorrowland feels like a sentence.😂
@CarterBaby32
@CarterBaby32 2 жыл бұрын
I was with you until you started talking about star tours 😂🤷🏼‍♀️ that's a precious gem that needs to stay.
@maddercat
@maddercat 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, on almost every point, but there will be a 3rd gate, or an extension west of disneyland dr. which is where the new fantasyland will go. Your plan of taking away 3/4 of what tomorrowland is because you dont have any good ideas of what to do with it isnt a good solution either. Also the tomorrowland terrace is from Tomorrowland 2055 in the 1990's which I believe is still part of the underlying story of tomorrowland. It's the centerpiece of what tomorrowland is and connects to the rest of the park and the overall disney tomorrowland story. This was part of Tony Baxter's overall plan for Disney. It should be the center of whatever they do to tomorrowland in the future.
@scarygary
@scarygary 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that just re adding the people mover is very sort sighted, where I disagree a little is expanding Main Street USA a little bit up to the Matterhorn, I think in a new Tomorrowland we can have that cool new fireworks viewing area if they teared down the faerie meet and greet area and make a tomorrow land building to view it from there, but seriously great video and love your thoughts and viewpoints on this as well
@Believeinthemagic17
@Believeinthemagic17 2 жыл бұрын
Oh don’t you know,they are going to announce removal of Pixie Hollow and bringing back House of the Future 🤣🤣
@spaldingclan1
@spaldingclan1 2 жыл бұрын
shoot they could move Pixie Hollow to the new expanded Fantasyland
@andrenathaniel7180
@andrenathaniel7180 2 жыл бұрын
Perspective appreciated for sure…. I do miss the people mover, yet am open to the possibility if imagineers get to truly go full throttle into imagination of creation for the tomorrow.
@J_Pike
@J_Pike 2 жыл бұрын
So great to see you, my friend. Lisa is teaching in Latvia for 10 months I will make sure to tell her that you two said Hi!
@andrenathaniel7180
@andrenathaniel7180 2 жыл бұрын
@@J_Pike likewise...thank you for passing on the love...I hope to hear the stories when she returns and you are doing amazing...we look forward to seeing you again in the near future.
@TheWorldAccordingtoJim
@TheWorldAccordingtoJim 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible if this actually happens! As a regular guest (passholder) having to look in on the elite guests is a joke. Walt Disney would absolutely be livid. This would be similar to Pirates of the Caribbean looking in on the Blue Bayou Restaurant. The difference is all guests are welcome that can afford the restaurant. Here's hoping that Disneyland does the right thing☘️😃. D23 2022 just might be our first Glimpse at the future of Tomorrowland.
@matthowlett6210
@matthowlett6210 2 жыл бұрын
“All guests are welcome who can afford it…” …..so not all guests then? Got it.
@Mpimentel5
@Mpimentel5 2 жыл бұрын
I was slightly offended at the title but thankfully I ignored myself 🤣& still gave your “take” on things a chance. You have great points and ideas! Thanks!
@maribelsanchez7726
@maribelsanchez7726 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much history and knowledge you put into your videos! If only everyone knew how great your videos are. You should have a million subscribers!!!
@wolftress2503
@wolftress2503 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way!!
@patjeff2679
@patjeff2679 2 жыл бұрын
Well presented. I hope Disney sees this.
@minecraftfortnight
@minecraftfortnight 2 жыл бұрын
How are you respecting Walt's Legacy if you rip out a part of the Hub???
@simplysuelou2014
@simplysuelou2014 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your insight and design sensibility. As a kid in the 70’s, I remember loving Tomorrowland. Now I avoid it unless I really want to go on Space Mountain- (which I would go to more often if it weren’t in a desolate corner of the park). My opinion, and maybe not the most popular.
@carrierobinson6474
@carrierobinson6474 2 жыл бұрын
Brickey you are so amazing at breaking down the design History of Disneyland. So much detailed info and realistic history. So many fun things I miss from my childhood. Loved inner space and America sings. Amazing!!
@wolftress2503
@wolftress2503 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this video Brickey. Your storytelling and conceptualization of a better Tomorrowland is exceptional. Thank you for taking the time to make such quality videos ❤️
@douglashall6326
@douglashall6326 2 жыл бұрын
3:25 Circarama did not open in 1960. The original Circarama show would open a few days after the park opening in 1955. It was replaced in 1960 with America the Beautiful in 1960. Also, several walk through exhibits occupied this building from 1955 to 1966.
@brandoncary2924
@brandoncary2924 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I agree with you that they should invest time and money into Tomorrowland and not let it just fall apart
@sr_spongebob
@sr_spongebob 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!, nice concepts. I so wanted the people mover back, but now I dont. This make so much sense, I'm going to miss Buzz Lightyear but im sure I'll enjoy what replaces it. Thanks for the video.
@christopherquinn1879
@christopherquinn1879 2 жыл бұрын
​Instead of Main Street expansion why not Liberty Square and change Tomorrow Land and change it to Discovery Land. Great video well thought out once again a video done right.
@michaeltaylor1603
@michaeltaylor1603 2 жыл бұрын
I Lovvve your plan of Mickey Mouse park (but also include Disneylandia was to have coin op AA figures in miniature & travel city to city) I personally thought of a "surf coaster" family style attraction to replace Autopia that looked like flying cars that would be indoor/out door with visions of a future cityscape. There could still be a late 50's 60's reto future look rather than steam punk. With the new promise of space exploration + the return to the moon & mars could spark "Horizons 2" Just a thought.
@woodland_rc4712
@woodland_rc4712 2 жыл бұрын
This is what you get when you have a board of directors and investors running the show and not the man himself Walt Disney. He was concerned with families having a good time and they are concerned with the almighty dollar
@JeffA_
@JeffA_ 2 жыл бұрын
I like your idea mentioned at the end for a new Tomorrowland, Main Street extension and more fantasy land. Unfortunately I don’t see the current administration making the long haul investment. I hope I’m wrong too. 👍🏻. Excellent work.
@trishmitchell8002
@trishmitchell8002 2 жыл бұрын
I was mad at this, but then you got me with the Walt Disney themed dark ride. I think there are parts of tomorrowland that need to be preserved and maybe naming it yestrdays tomorrowland might be cool becasue I LOVE the retro parts of it- BUT i have to say I LOVE your idea with the expansion on Fantasyland and Mainstreet. I think youre on to something! Great video!!! AND i'm loving your aerial view jumps from location to location! Keep up the excellent work!
@TELarkin61
@TELarkin61 2 жыл бұрын
In order to have any meaningful change you need to have leadership that loves the park more than money (like Walt); leadership with creative vision (like Walt) and leadership that actually cares (like Walt). All of these appear to be lacking with the current leadership.
@juanppenheimer
@juanppenheimer 2 жыл бұрын
I love star tours it may be a stretch to get it moved to galaxys edge but I would also be willing to greet a new ride with open hands
@karenbrennan399
@karenbrennan399 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing!!!Well done. Wish Disney would hire you to redo Tomorrow Land.
@vicdog4440
@vicdog4440 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. It’s crazy how many of us (me included) usually only sees so far ahead, and in doing so, we “settle” for the middlings that Disney throws our way. Disney NEEDS people like you in their arsenal. I would love to see someone with your background and vision contributing to those decisions at the House of Mouse.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that the problem is a lack of vision or imagination, I'm sure that they have plenty of that. What's lacking is money, or more to say, the willingness to spend the kind of money that it would take to make someone's vision come true. You have to remember that Disney isn't a private company owned and run by the Disney family and hasdn't been for decades. They're a publicly traded company and that means that the CEO isn't the ultimate boss, the board of directors are and what they care about is the price of the company's stock. And if the CEO, be it Eiger or someone new, isn't going to be CEO for long if they start spending money like crazy and cause the stocks to stuffer a massive drop in price. It's also worth noting that a drop in the price of Disney stocks wouldn't just affect these big wigs. It affects anybody who owns shares of Disney stocks, some of whom own them as part of their retirement nest egg. And even if you don't own any shares of Disney directly, if you have any form of mutual fund, or a 401K, you just might be a shareholder and not realize it.
@ericdodson3630
@ericdodson3630 6 ай бұрын
@@Riceball01Disney spent 4 billion on just the star wars IPO, they are making it back hand over fist but they don't lack money, they lack people with vision that know how to spend that money. Hopefully the 3rd park in Anaheim will allow that vision to come to light and see that they can improve something like tomorrow land and make it even better. as much as I love the current Tomorrow Land, I would love to see a re-theme every 25 years or so to keep things up with the current technology, can you image how it could look with LED's and video boards, make it look like the future we were all promised.
@fritzs8117
@fritzs8117 2 жыл бұрын
Bulldoze the entire thing and start over. Yep, even Space mountain. Being in the dark is neither immersive nor imaginative. Start over with what? I don't have that answer, and neither does Disney Imagineering....hence the decades of hodgepodge and mediocre. Even Galaxy's Edge is mediocre. Installing 1977 in 2020 is not "inventive". "Star Wars" predates the opening of EPCOT. I do like your idea about having "Disney-land" within Disneyland. Perhaps rip out the very dated dinosaur and grand canyon panoramas along the DLRR...and replace with Walt's Biography...from delivering newspapers in the snowy darkness of Marceline...to the production studio...his family.... to the Disneyland RailRoad (which you are riding on, right now). It's not 1955....we can get in our self-driving cars and drive to the Grand Canyon on the Interstate Highway (the Autopia) if we want to...... "Dinosaurs" went out in 1992 when that big purple one arrived.
@michelelyons9410
@michelelyons9410 8 ай бұрын
There is virtually nothing in Tomorrow Land that is of interest to me, except the people mover. It was like the Disneyland Train, slow moving, relaxing, with lots to see. It was also one place you could go to rest your feet from walking and standing, yet do it in a way that was enjoyable.
@InternetJury
@InternetJury 6 ай бұрын
Yup, the People MOver was always one of my favorite rides as a kid and teenager going to the park. When they added Tron, it made it even better. I think they forget the Disneyland needs those long, slow moving rides so people can take a break, off their feet while still 'doing something'. But also... I admit, it was the perfect ride as teenagers who wanted 'to be alone' and make-out a little. Not that I would ever have done such a thing, of course. ;)
@iseewood
@iseewood 2 жыл бұрын
Bricky, you are a visionary. However, I would prefer Disney to put such an investment in Disney Forward versus tearing down Tomorrowland. Yes, Autopia, Buzz Lightyear, Astroblaster and Star Tours are long in the tooth, they are good functional rides that kids and families still love today. Perhaps if Disneyland expanded first then circled back to Tomorrowland would be a better idea.
@johncurley8486
@johncurley8486 Жыл бұрын
“They’ll love whatever comes next”-what they said when they pitched the rocket rods. It’s ok for people to like what’s already there. The biggest problem with tomorrow land with its crumbling public transport and infrastructure, continued dependence on fossil fuel, and rich people paying to go to space is it’s too accurate a depiction of what tomorrow will be like. The future is a reflection of the past and to just completely toss out Tomorrowland’s past when envisioning Tomorrowland’s future forgets the “Disney” part of Disney’s Tomorrowland, and if Disney isn’t nostalgia it’s nothing. It’s ok if you want the people mover back, it’s just a theme park
@happilyellisafter
@happilyellisafter 2 жыл бұрын
This 🙌🏼
@disneyLani
@disneyLani 2 жыл бұрын
Tomorrowland was my favorite as a child in the 60’s just so sad they have just forgotten it. I agree let’s make it new and update it it’s 2022🤷‍♀️.
@CupcakeGrogan
@CupcakeGrogan 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brickey. I also get motion sickness and won’t be able to ride Space Mountain while on our girls trip “We turned 50 during Covid” in November. So other than people watching, any suggestions of what I can do while I wait? Thanks for the great videos.
@thebrinksf69
@thebrinksf69 Жыл бұрын
They could put the old Submarine Voyage back. That is timeless. Agreed on a consistent theme for the train station. I don't think a lounge would be useful for America The Beautiful building. The expense you mention sounds worth it to bring back the People Mover. Anyone saying not to bring it back otherwise is not understanding why people liked the People Mover in the first place. Although, I agree that it needs to be more than a lounge to look at. If nothing good can be replaced there, I understand you want the building removed, but I believe the controls to the People Mover reside there, so it would likely need to stay with a retheming. Agreed on the pizza place going back to being an attraction. As nice as a rebuilt Space Mountain would be, that definitely seems unlikely. Starcade should reopened. A complete overhaul would be fine but also unlikely. I would love a Walt attraction too. Keep in mind there is a limit to their budget, so retheming isn't necessarily bad if that's all they can do. It just depends what they do. If they have no option to rebuild the entire land,then I'll take that, but of course, pie in sky, billions of dollars, a new Tomorrowland would be great.
@Mouserocksnerd
@Mouserocksnerd 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm easily swayed because I come off this video going yeah that's a great idea and I came off the people mover video from offhand going yeah that's a great idea 😂 honestly, I think you're right about taking over part of Tomorrowland for fantasyland. There is no way Disney sleeps on a frozen land out here one way or the other... It needs representation and it would be a perfect setting by the Matterhorn. I think It all becomes clearer if you start talking numbers. Tomorrowland rebuild would be 5 to 10 years if it's done right. Maybe they could get it done quick but they wouldn't get it done right. And the numbers don't lie. If you asked people at rope drop which direction they were heading first, you get one of 3 answers, and you know space mountain's number one. I think it's hard to justify killing a land for so long when it draws the crowds that direction and helps with crowd control. Yeah it's kind of bad aesthetically and it's an amalgamation of too many IPs, which is what's causing the problem... But realistically Tomorrowland needs a patch for now. If the people mover is that patch until they can do some serious construction/destruction... I don't think that's a bad plan. The DVC lounge aspect really sucks but a people mover update would go a long way in smoothing things out. That said I would be so stoked if they would theme the land more around space and even putting the astral order back on top of the people mover tracks would be amazing! It really does block the entrance and it doesn't add much there. I love all the rides and Tomorrowland independently but I agree you could cut almost everything except for space and the trains. All in all a great video! I look forward to seeing what other deep dives you've got on your channel!
@hzafary
@hzafary 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort put into this video
@lindsaysmith2510
@lindsaysmith2510 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of controversy in this video. I don't envy you having to read all the comments. Lol. I'll say this video was pieced together well. I loved the old and new reference content. I've got to say you're right Walt would not want to do the easy fix, but I don't think he'd want to cut it into a tiny sliver of the one attraction that did work either. To give up on Tomorrowland is to give up on the idea that human kind has growth to look forward to. I think if they stop hyperfixating on the space theme, then the imagineers could come up with an amazing hope for the future. Call me a grandma, but I don't enjoy either Web Slingers or Smugglers Run. They are too high stimulation and the story gets lost. Attractions like that don't appeal to the whole family. If we keep getting more high stimulus and they take out slower attractions similar to astroblasters and Nemo then it will be just like Six Flags. I will drop off the teens, cuz I don't want to go.
@kaibricturner8836
@kaibricturner8836 2 жыл бұрын
This was nice 👍🏾 🔥🔥🔥
@franklinmimi
@franklinmimi Жыл бұрын
I think the photos of the many guests dressed up shows how many people did this for church and special occasions. Yes, it does give the appearance of upper middle class from the way the majority of people dress today. Back in the mid 50’s we weren’ heavily in debt with credit cards. If people couldn’t afford to visit , then just waited until they had saved for the trip or realized it wasn’t something they could afford . In today’s society there is the forever handy credit card to charge such a trip. This is how many people have gotten in trouble by not making wise choices . I count myself in with this group. My debt isn’t about vacations , using the credit card too often , it’s about charging when I should have paid in cash . I hope my grandchildren can be wise and pay in cash as much as they can .
@disneyqueen7259
@disneyqueen7259 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying "they'll love whatever comes next". It's what I try to tell people when they want to get out their pitchforks when Soundsational ended or just bringing up ending Mickey & the Magical Map (before the shutdown). You won't get something new if they keep running the old. Magic Happens was way better than Soundsational. Unfortunately covid halted that, hopefully not permanently. Although nothing has been announced to replace Magic Map yet, it ran for like 7 years. It should have been replaced long before the park closure anyway. The great thing about KZbin...there are tons of videos of them that the kids can still watch it whenever they want.
@charlenebevilacqua3819
@charlenebevilacqua3819 2 жыл бұрын
Love your knowledge,excitement and ideas. If your not working for Disney you should be in my opinion. They really could use your talent
@rlarry562
@rlarry562 2 жыл бұрын
You won me over on your viewpoint bud. I go into the parks a lot and I realize that I rarely step into Tomorrowland now.
@tech-hm3qy
@tech-hm3qy 2 жыл бұрын
Divide the land as said, move star tours closer to an expanded space mountain, install from the ground up a new people mover and retheme the whole land to Corasaunt from Star Wars. It removes the Tomorrowland on going problem of trying to predict future technologies
@RedheadedMama
@RedheadedMama 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos yet. I could honestly imagine a Disneyland dark ride! You keep out doing yourself! #Club1313
@todisney_andbeyond
@todisney_andbeyond 2 жыл бұрын
Very smart & thoughtful look at Tomorrow Land. I totally agree with your take. If only Disney was of this mindset too.
@muninntog142
@muninntog142 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your points other than the reallocation of land. It’s missing the kenetic movement feel of the future. A Tomorrowland with just space mountain without out it’s movement is just as stagnated as it is today
@stephaniemcguire672
@stephaniemcguire672 2 жыл бұрын
well said, thank you Brickey for the alternative perspective.
@sheilaa1333
@sheilaa1333 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your ‘do not touch’ list. The rest can go... I’d like to see a few rebuilt (people mover, autopia with electric cars and submarines with something faster loading - but that last one only to preserve the water view from the monorail station to the Matterhorn). I like Star tours too, but it makes no sense to have anything Star Wars related with the new Galaxy Edge. Move Star Tours - or visit it in FL.
@anjelica2205
@anjelica2205 2 жыл бұрын
While I appreciate the views you described I do feel the need to point out that while the images shared of what future Tomorrowland should look like, it’s just not fiscally responsible. The problem with modern buildings is that eventually they aren’t modern. Trends change on average every 15 years. Originally tomorrow land was the future but it’s since long gone. Vintage is the way to go, trying to keep it updated would forever be a giant waste of resources. The nostalgia is exhausting, our memories serve us better than the memories really are. The comments about Disney only serving the top tier is literally the laziest argument. Disney has always been for the top tiers. Old footage shows people in their Sunday best. Disney has no problem with attendance, it’s obviously plenty affordable. Walt Disney himself once said when faced between bathrooms or drinking fountains in the budget said “people can’t piss in the street, but they can buy coke” he established the elite club 33. Where is this nonsense that he was for the poor? Where is the outrage for club 33? Disney is a Luxury just the same as a beach front vacation is to some. Let’s stop with the nonsense that he would be rolling in his grave. I do agree with your expansion of fantasyland and I appreciate the content but I just wanted to provide my unsolicited prospective.
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. As I noted, the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland aesthetic never became the present, which is why they are now trying -- not terribly hard and with great success -- to put it back.
@Ameliabelle10
@Ameliabelle10 2 жыл бұрын
Good points. Disneyland does seem was made for more upper middle class families
@meredithmiller9302
@meredithmiller9302 2 жыл бұрын
Just please don’t touch Space Mountain. It’s the best ride ever!!
@williamhaynes7089
@williamhaynes7089 6 ай бұрын
DL charges enough for its tickets, no reason people mover should ever had closed
@finned958
@finned958 2 жыл бұрын
Either bring back People Mover or remove the tracks, but neither is their actual plans. Tomorrowland is stagnant. Leave Buzz Lightyear ride, which is an engaging kids ride that doesn’t have a long wait. I would do a wholesale replacement of Autopia, Submarines, and Innoventions for Tron ride.
@donovandelaney3171
@donovandelaney3171 7 ай бұрын
That's Conspiracy Theory. So shut your mouth.
@christineleonard247
@christineleonard247 2 жыл бұрын
This video needs to be played at a high level imagineers meeting with Chapek in attendance!!!
@ryantelberson
@ryantelberson Жыл бұрын
Don't show Offhand Disney this. Im already mad for him
@chrismurray6606
@chrismurray6606 2 жыл бұрын
Brickey is crushing the content creation. I don’t necessarily agree with your fixes but the spirit is right. Time to do Tomorrowland right. No more band aids. #Club1313
@J_Pike
@J_Pike 2 жыл бұрын
Crushing is right. #Club1313
@jeffjohnson6922
@jeffjohnson6922 2 жыл бұрын
Star Tours > Smuggler’s Run Just sayin…
@Banjo_Tails
@Banjo_Tails 2 жыл бұрын
A nice way to end my very busy day. Great video as usual.
@Banjo_Tails
@Banjo_Tails 2 жыл бұрын
Like and heart those comments!
@daphneleah4210
@daphneleah4210 2 жыл бұрын
“…not unfavorable ones.” 🤣🤣
@ronaldlatham9967
@ronaldlatham9967 2 жыл бұрын
What a great episode. Tomorrowland redo is like a not-yet-opened Christmas present: could be great, could be a dud. But the anticipation is wonderful
@OrangeGrove55
@OrangeGrove55 2 жыл бұрын
You blew my mind again, great analysis !!
@SteveHolst
@SteveHolst 2 жыл бұрын
As I recall, after RocketRods died they said they couldn't bring the people move back because it wouldn't be up to code. And it couldn't be grandfathered because it had been replaced.
@christinemartin5095
@christinemartin5095 2 жыл бұрын
Never been on Autopia--never wanted to. It needs to go, in my opinion.
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