AEC. Euclid. Foden and Scammell. Coal board dumper trials at Arkwright Colliery. 1953.

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October 1953. AEC. Foden. Euclid and Scammell and several pieces of plant all taking part in evaluation trials at the Arkwright Colliery, Derbyshire.
As stated in the film there was problems with one of the camera's used, I've tried to edit that out without loosing the narration.

[@jonathangriffin1120]

I remember a lot of these bits of kit from when I was a we lad living on the eastern end of the Mendips, The brand name 'Chaseside was often used as a generic term for any wheeled loading shovel regardless who made it. The quarry in my home village had a six wheel AEC dumper similar to the one in the film. Wainrights of Stoke St. Michael had a couple of Eucs and a Foden. Didn't see any Scammells until the Sherpas came along. Great piece of film!

[@stewartt.2384]

Great film, takes me back to the Yorkshire Pits. Back in the day I used to have to repair these trucks out in the field - whatever the weather, mainly AEC and Foden, plenty of clutch failures and punctures. The main concern was to keep the hopper empty, and keep moving out the 'muck' so the pit could keep operating. Thanks for posting this, very nostalgic Stew.

[@jackthebassman1]

Fantastic!!!!!!! My first truck driving job was at the ARC sand and gravel quarry in thrapston Northants driving a Foden half cab 8 wheeler with Gardener 180. I think that's what started my tinnitus!

[@michaelandrews4403]

lorry.men/

[@lynwestwood1762]

Drove a Leyland album 400 on most pits in s Wales,1968.never let me down.wish i could go back.

[@347chas]

Super film, loved the sound of the engines & exhaust note, so miss those days when we had proper lorrys.

[@VAHOSS]

Euclid went on to dominate the rigid frame truck industry. Some of the old Euclids like in this video are still running to this day

[@firglenchainsaws]

Fantastic film! Proper wagons. I remember a Foden and Scammel like these in quarry near where I live. Still used 15 years ago! Sadly long gone now.

[@Improveng1]

Really interesting old film, thanks for sharing.

[@roybowden795]

I worked on 60 ton Euclids in a open pit copper mine in Northern Ontario Canada, they were powered by 16v 71 Detroit Diesels and Allison transmissions, small by today's standards , but work horses never the less.

[@GreenmanXIV]

Scammell, the only one that went up the bulldozer hill. As a Scammell apprentice, I knew it would. ;-)

[@relathan1]

The more youtube vids I watch about these massive brutes, the more I love them

[@petersmith4455]

i support the aec truck as i used to work there in the 1970s.we also made all wheel drive trucks as well as scammell did when i was there it was the ld55 tipper

[@northstar1950]

Fascinating footage, the Euclid was modeled by Dinky Toys in the 50s.

[@markjosephbudgieridgard]

What a great film.... Purely on looks I'd take the Scamell and Euclid I love the layout of these dumpers with the bullnose front... 👍

[@alanmcewen508]

I drove 120 and 210 ton Euclid articulated at a coal mine in the 80s, they've came a long way since then.

[@petersmith4455]

the AEC did well.i knew it would. I worked at aec In the 1970s.great place.

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

Me too Peter, as an Apprentice at Arlington Alma Bristol. Started in April 1965. £ 4 .00 a week.

[@billythomas5616]

Enjoyed that, very much.

[@ianmilgate8164]

these flims are just great

[@SMayleification]

+ian milgate Thanks for viewing.

[@logicalcreation4349]

Great Video.. reminded me my child hood days... Gud effort.... Luv India'

[@jrf84]

The AEC and Foden vehicles performed well,but I was most impressed by the Scammell.Wasn't the Scammell dump truck demonstrated here known as the Mountaineer? If so the vehicle really lived up to its name. I was surprised the Euclid performed poorly in certain tests.

[@davereade4017]

Back in the 80s I drove half cab foden with a 220 Cummins

[@grahamstephenson9393]

so what did they buy in the end?

[@johnsamu]

It's striking how often the gear change went wrong. Probably the drivers all were experienced, so maybe the gearboxes were cumbersome? It gives a bad impression missing gears when showing your products.

[@Jon-em4kc]

Crash box, no synchromesh, and an unwieldy 2 stroke diesel motor! Bloody horrific.

[@cummins4416]

Another good video,in the 70/80s my uncle and great uncle did day and night in Arkwright stocking well emptying the bins when the train had been with a brand new man 8 wheeler ,they used more diesel getting there than all week ,card playing ,sleeping and frying steak was the main activity , a good job for some 7 yrs even though it was through Pinxton transport and later K & M .

[@SMayleification]

+Cummins Ran out of their myself back in the day, what a shit hole ! Four a day to Cottam, that was through K&M.

[@davidmorris6788]

Euc was built in Scotland. Foden built its own Two stroke. Engine. With cav. Injection.

[@lwilton]

Excellent film, it is good that it was preserved, though unfortunate that the camera pointed at the screen did not have auto-focus and auto-exposure disabled.

[@SMayleification]

This was how I received the film, but I spent a lot of time improving it, editing out the really bad bits without losing the body of the film, I did request the raw film but nothing came of it.

[@roberthuron9160]

Back in the 1950's,there was NO AUTOFOCUS,AND NO AUTOEXPOSURE,as that technology didn't come in until the late 1960's, and early 1970's,so any exposure/ focus was strictly manual! And there were handheld light meters,but that was only how far the technology had gotten! Note: this was before the wide spread use of transistors! I know, as I was an Air Force photographer,and we were still using WW2 vintage equipment,and only some automation was just coming in,and that sporadically!! Lots of transition at that point in time!! British Rail was still basically steam operated in the early 50's,so take from there! Also note; Foden and Scammel were both builders of steam traction engines,so they had much knowledge of less than ideal working conditions,and the engineering showed,obviously!! Great video,and most education 👏! Thank you for your efforts!!

[@ivanrowland6353]

Brilliant film love it

[@CycolacFan]

Might have been better off testing the cameras than the trucks...

[@patricedugue6990]

Super reportage

[@hectorkidds9840]

This all looks quite privative, but they still have had temporary ways and steam locomotives clearing spoil just a few years earlier, and not long before that ponies dragging little carts about.

[@gizsealface]

That AEC didn`t look well loaded compared to others?

[@gregg4164]

Oh and that dump mechanism on the scammel is going to rip right off the back of the truck the way it works.

[@thesupacoop4002]

Looks like a PR stunt to me. Tests and trials can be construed to determine a desired outcome. There are horses for courses, in this case, Trucks for transport !! Which make has survived to today?

[@isakjohansson7134]

Cool and cute trucks!

[@kumarancvk]

Wow 👌 machines..

[@terra2805]

Who won then? Scammel or Foden I say. Lol. Can anyone tell me what AEC is an abbreviation for?

[@SMayleification]

Don't know who won the day, but AEC stands for Associated Equipment Company.

[@terra2805]

SMayleification Thanks. I was curious. Lol.

[@baggypanttrucker]

Associated Equipment Company.

[@nigelbranthwaite8471]

The abbreviation AEC was Associated Equipment Company ,until 1st of October 1948 when the initial AEC just stood for AEC . AEC became part of ACV group companies which included Coachworks Park Royal and ROE .Also Crossley Mandalay and in 1962 Thronycroft.

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

I worked for AEC in Bristol as an Apprentice, 1965 onwards, and i always knew it as Amalgamated Engineering Company.

[@kimmorrison9169]

where are the Macks and Caterpillars?

[@SMayleification]

Not in the UK during the 1950s. Mack made a brief appearance during the 1960s and 70s in road going trucks.

[@donaldbartram6315]

WAs the EUC American made or do they make them in the UK also?

[@SMayleification]

Euclid had a factory built in Motherwell Scotland around 1950, very handy as Cummins built an engine assembly plant just up the road at Shotts. Euclid was later taken over by Terex.

[@donaldbartram6315]

I was just wondering if they were imported or made there Thanks. Euclid & Terex were both good machines. I believe they were bough by GMC at one time.

[@Moo01100]

Truly outstanding.

[@gregg4164]

That Euclid has a bigger body on it than just ten yards. You have 4 completely different classes of trucks here what was the objective of this test?

[@teamidris]

Was wondering the same thing? Keeping the haul roads flat meant the all wheel drive ones were well over spec. Strange test day.

[@VAHOSS]

Euclid went on to dominate the rigid frame truck industry

[@fatlad5090]

vulva and back scuttle noise

[@MePeterNicholls]

You should have turned auto focus off 👍🏼

[@allanmacbadger5692]

And to think what was available from Czech manufacturer Tatra at the same time. Although the Fodens look the business and with good tipping action.

[@306champion]

Scammell drivers didn't know how to back by mirror back then

[@SMayleification]

Probably that much vibration you couldn't see anything anyway.

[@hectorkidds9840]

And mirror was only about 4" across

[@eyeballpaul3276]

wards recovery has 1 of them foden dump trucks its had a easy life not worked hard at all its sat in there yard

[@daveprice4982]

I had one of those when I was a kid, I'd fill it up with smarties and crash it against the door

[@CosgroveNotts]

Great stuff

[@johnwharton2617]

I wonder who got the job?

[@SMayleification]

John Wharton Probably none of them, some local tipper operator with a knackered old Foden 8 wheeler would have done it on nights, that how it always looked to me, having done it. ha-ha.

[@Karsiyaka02]

All in a days work for the AEC!!

[@MrGodsking]

had a mercury 470 and a 505

[@michaelandrews4403]

lorry.men/

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

@@MrGodsking Hello Mr Godsking, i thought a 505 was a dry liner engine fitted to the tilt cab models. ?

[@fatlad5090]

old back scuttle noise old trucks make

[@Indy6130]

this movie is dream

[@Joelontugs]

An unusual 2 stroke diesel aka a Detroit lol

[@SMayleification]

Foden manufacture, it says so in the commentary. Foden's were developing the 2 stroke engine during the war, and put it into production in 1948.

[@jasperedwards3341]

euclid is that yankee truck

[@SMayleification]

Yes American but they did build them in Scotland as well Motherwell I think.

[@ГалияБралимова-д1в]

Foden aec

[@drstevenrey]

The track is so funny. There is no climb, there is no hill, there is no hairpin turn and there is no speed on the speed run. And then the camera breaks down, surely British.

[@michaelbamber4887]

I was thinking the same. An that euclid thing looks fucked already, could it go any slower or miss more gears? It even ran out of steam on the non Hill, hill climb!

[@hazelluke9361]

cut my teeth on afoden dump truck at kielder water for public works Ltd ( THE RUBBER DUCK )

[@adamkowalski2740]

NIE MA TO JAK ZIŁ ))))

[@andrewrcmadwilkinson6999]

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