Aero WAS Everything, Light Bikes Are Back?! | GCN Show Ep. 621

[@gcn]

Do you think lightweight bikes are back? 🪶 Let us know in the comments! And what do you think of our brand new set? 😍

[@adambowman1812]

Lightweight was never away. It was all about selling new bicycles.

[@JMise]

I finally upgraded my 16 year old Scott addict in the spring. Is the new bike better in every way? Apart from weight, yes. Is it annoying that a 16 year old bike with hydraulic rim brakes and alloy wheels is 1,5kg lighter than a new +3000€ bike with carbon wheels? Yes, very much.

[@r.j.4173]

New Schmolke Leggerissima with 5.4 kg...

[@janetw9016]

Jack Burke got the Alpe d'Huez KOM on the new Scott Addict RR! According to his podcast, he had to sit on the result until Scott released the bike.

[@andrewhill9369]

I have a beautiful Celeste, 2017 Bianchi Specialissima. It’s classed as lightweight before I get on the saddle. (Am working hard to put this right, though). 😊

[@FilipMoravcik]

Some acoustic treatment of the new studio is needed!

[@gcn]

#BlameLloydy

[@JonPaul]

@@gcn Sounds like they are in a tin can

[@bikecommuter24]

I see some Acoustic Tiles in the studio's future.

[@iecrime]

First thing I tought. :)

[@velodjk2975]

Set design, hack. Sound, bodge.

[@bobvonkaenel1438]

Love you guys, but the audio needs some work. Sounds like you're speaking from the bottom of a bucket.

[@gcn]

Don’t worry, we’ll get Conor to fix the microphones, he’s the only one who can reach

[@risesir]

@@gcnright there is the problem 😂

[@doctorscoot]

@@gcnit’s the wall floor or desk materials! Lots of harsh mid range reflection. Put some mass behind the walls (my bet is you’ve got hollow framing behind them?) or absorbent materials in front of them.

[@slowridr]

Came here to say this too. I realise GCN is a sausage fest these days but get some soft furnishings in there!

[@m.talley1660]

Back to your old mic setup will probably fix the audio.

[@lwittrock1]

Lightweight has never gone out of style nor has it gone away but is simply back in the forefront.

[@pinkyfull]

as a 96kg male, i can safely say that a few grams of weight on a bike is by far and away NOT the thing that will make me faster.

[@凸Bebo凸]

I'm 100kg and ride with a 35 km/h average. When I eat properly and drop down to 96kg it's super noticeable on the bike, are you sure about that?

[@dylanluhowy]

@@凸Bebo凸He means weight of the bike obviously.

[@凸Bebo凸]

@@dylanluhowy So you wouldn't notice going from a 12kg bike to an 8kg bike? Use your brain before @ people on the Internet. Only talk to people if its interesting or useful, no one cares about the 1st thing out of your skull, save it.

[@dylanluhowy]

@@凸Bebo凸 Easy tiger, no need to be antisocial. 🤣 He said a few grams of weight on the bike, not 4 kilos.

[@凸Bebo凸]

@@dylanluhowy I'm being antisocial because you are bringing that never been hit in the face European muppet level of conversation where nothing useful is learned, its feminine, I'm not getting paid so that's what you get.

[@stuartwalker6786]

Not that the other combos aren't good!, but Dan and Simon are the PERFECT duo! The dynamic is spot on.

[@bobfoster687]

Seems natural! Nothing is forced!

[@lhd9979]

Absolutely...

[@joannastiller3013]

My thought as well, their sense of humour works perfectly.

[@eduardomartins8246]

Without GCN Show life wouldn’t be the same.Thanks guys, big hi from Portugal 🇵🇹

[@Dxniel-quit]

Hello everyone. I come from Germany and really enjoy watching your videos. I really like the British humor and the quality of the videos is excellent. Better than GCN in German. Please keep it up.

[@adeplu]

This is unfortunately true, maybe get them over for some lessons?

[@easternbrown]

#captioncompetition Being cyclocross the bikes do not need to abide by the laws of gravelty

[@charlesdufour9276]

The difference between Canadian and British winters: Canadian winters are cold, British winters are depressing. Once the temperature gets cold enough (below -15°C I would say) snow tends to stay bright white on the fields and trees, the air seems to sparkle from small water droplets crystalizing, and it is more likely that you will have clear, sunny days and starry nights that make things beautiful and the cold more tolerable and enjoyable (to me at least). The perpetually grey skies and drab browns and greens of the British winters would just be miserable. Edit: This comment is a generalization for both countries in the style of the annual worse winters debate on this website (areas of northern Scotland tend to get mostly snow, coastal BC gets a lot of rain and cloud cover, Atlantic Canada gets lots of cloud cover and mixed precipitation...). The purpose of this comment was to highlight that it is not necessarily the temperature that makes one winter worse than an other, but the conditions that are associated with those temperatures. If it were possible to get Edmonton type cold with persistent Vancouver level cloud cover and there was no snow on the ground, I would find it unbearable.

[@VonHanzee]

but Canadians are generally just miserable to all others with your nickel and diming and passive aggressive ways.

[@Crall-xb8he]

BUT less likely to be eaten by a bear…

[@mpvsystems9302]

Obviously, you do not live in Vancouver!

[@Thezuule1]

@@Crall-xb8hebicycles are faster than bears, especially when the cyclist is being chased by said bear.

[@markmoore6667]

@@Thezuule1you don’t have to be faster than the bear just your buddies

[@heatherbellbikes]

My hubby, who’s not a cyclist (anymore), but who’s been roped in by me to watching GCN, and now watches the GCN Show voluntarily with me, says ‘you need Lavalier mics and sound dampening tiles. He also says ‘get yourself a sound mixer’. He’s a musician, so he’s passing his knowledge onto you, while he gains from your knowledge.

[@Stephen-nq5kd]

#captioncompetition: sometimes you’re jumping canyons other times the Canyons jumping you.

[@mtbwithben8648]

#captioncompetition Canyon’s new bike is Inflite!

[@seanshumka]

Stopping at red lights: Having grown up in Canada, lived in London UK for 17.5 years, I’ve always stopped at red lights as the norm. Now having recently moved to Denver Colorado, by law cyclists can yield at a stop sign and use a red light like a stop sign. And it works. No increase in traffic to cyclists accidents, and I stop, look that it’s safe to cross and I pedal on. If done correctly and safely, there seems to be no problem with cyclists doing the above at stop signs and red lights under the law allowing us to do so.

[@santiagobenites]

Of course lightweight bikes are back. Now just re-engineer the direct mount rim brake to accommodate a wider rim and be done with it! 😉😄

[@billyblanco8106]

I have 2 rim brake bikes, 2011 S-Works with Campy Record & Cipo RB800 with Shim DA calipers, and both accommodate Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon & Hunt Carbon wheels with 19 mm internal rim width / 26-28mm tires...so I can't blame the rim brake calipers...LOL...

[@StratoJohn]

Odd looking at a different background, but love the bike frames on the wall. Didn't even notice any sound issues, but the rest of the comments section did

[@stevemawer848]

Having cloth ears can be a blessing! 🙂

[@JIMMYHIBBS1]

Litterally sounds like you are in a shipping container 😂

[@gcn]

Ahoy there sailor

[@foldupaudi7645]

In a shipping container under some blanket

[@gcn]

we had to use the blanket, it was cold

[@foldupaudi7645]

@@gcn hehe. You made me snort

[@RoScFan]

@@foldupaudi7645 Oink oink 😆

[@JeremyScoones]

I think the main reason why the speeds are higher and pro racing is more dangerous is because the athletes themselves are much faster. The racing is flat out from the gun and the collective standard of the peloton is much higher and much closer. The onus should really be on making the routes the safer rather than trying to slow the peloton down...IMHO.

[@Eramsay121]

Lightweight bikes are great, but not when a new disc bike that weighs the same as a 2017 Supersix Evo HiMod costs 5x more

[@krisbowditch827]

😂😂😂 mugging the paying customers off 🙈💰💰💰💰💰

[@stevemawer848]

Light, fast, cheap - choose two. 'Twas ever thus.

[@billyblanco8106]

@@stevemawer848 so then light + cheap IS an option...update needed as...cheaper, faster, better - choose any 2...LOL...

[@michaelskelton8516]

Best intro ever…so ‘real world’ 😎👍🚵🏻‍♂️

[@stiubhart7283]

Definitely

[@pedro_8240]

#CaptionCompetition Usually people try to jump over a canyon, this if the first time I see a canyon jumping over someone.

[@johnrodgers6049]

Like the new studio. The Orbea frame would be better in a bright color against the black walls.

[@ChrClausen]

Increasing the weight limit to 8 kg will leave much more margin for hidden motors and batteries.

[@derickcastillo9083]

I am cool with you saying that Lance should not be considered a tour winner, IF everyone who cheated in his era is treated the same way. If the UCI did that, there would be no results in any race or racer the entire era. Pantani, Ulrich, Riis, Indrurain, Contador, Sastre, all would not have tour wins.

[@davidmurphy9151]

Correct.

[@skylerschwendeman]

To be fair, most others in that era weren’t themselves running massive criminal enterprises in service of their cheating and ruining the careers of journalists and other riders over it.

[@timtaylor9590]

​@@skylerschwendemanbecause he was the only one winning genius. Is he was losing he would've keep his results despite all else considered

[@skylerschwendeman]

@@timtaylor9590I’m not here to argue about results, I think other dopers should have theirs stripped as well. Just pointing out that the size and second order effects of Lance’s cheating were far, far bigger than others doing the same, and the methods he employed were more vicious.

[@DouglasSimkin]

Totally agree, it's ridiculous that contador is a commentator for eurosport as well.

[@fredrikbeskow5358]

The studio looks great! What an improvement!

[@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling]

i wonder how many people will test the new wahoo wind accelerometer after their christmas day sprouts

[@gcn]

[@StratoJohn]

Top comment!

[@gcn]

Red Bull gives you wings, sprouts give you wind

[@BravoMike-gu8ni]

Safety Factors are used in engineering to account for variance in materials and manufacturing. For example, if a bike frame is designed to hold 250 pounds, the material specifications indicate a certain thickness required. The engineer might then apply a Safety Factor of 2 and order the frame material to be twice as thick to theoretically hod 500 pounds.

[@kaneherbert2369]

You 2 are definitely my favourite 2 GCN producers. Bravo 👏

[@MnBicycleCommuter]

Lightweight bikes. I raced as a junior in the late 70’s. I had a race day bike and a training bike. The training bike was heavier. When race days came my race bike always felt super fast, light, and amazing. Using this method any bike can be a lightweight bike.

[@simongoh9461]

Light weight bikes are back. Sounds like cycling is like the fashion industry, black is the new black.

[@charliedillon1400]

mom jeans came back, so anything can.

[@Thezuule1]

The cycling industry will exploit any opportunity to sell bikes.

[@SystemParanoia]

I wish kids bikes were 6kg.. Most of them are 10kg+

[@charliedillon1400]

Same as Freestyle BMX, they're made to be strong, that's why they're heavy.

[@SystemParanoia]

@@charliedillon1400 I get that.. But that weight robs many kids of the joy of riding If they weigh 10kg themself, having a bike of equal weight to oneself is miserable

[@fabianbinder3681]

Whoom, Orbea and Cube among others make lightweight kids bikes. Picked one up for my daughter, really worth it.

[@SystemParanoia]

@@fabianbinder3681 have you weighed them?

[@fabianbinder3681]

@@SystemParanoia Woom Explore 4 has 7,8 kg, Orbea MX20 has 9 kg (but you can shave at least 0,5 kg off with smaller tires).

[@peternovak2696]

As a recent resident to Utah, Canyonlands is incredible and is seriously underrated. I am super stoked to see this trip! I was there last week and told my wife that we are coming back to bike pack this area! We were both grinning ear to ear! GCN you guys are amazing and I love watching your stuff keep up the amazing content!

[@Funkmasterors]

Love the new Scott Addict ❤❤

[@fredthompson9814]

Rim Brakes for the win. Always.

[@bimblingalong]

#CaptionCompetition 'Anything Si can do I can do "better"'

[@GaryCain]

Congrats on the new studio. Did GCN decide to go old-school on the audio - tin cans connected by a string?

[@gcn]

it's Reynolds 531 headtubes and some old brake cables

[@toddbagley1775]

The new set looks great

[@gcn]

thanks!

[@grahambowes756]

I love the hills. I’m 68 and 60kg. For me light weight makes a big difference. I’m not super fast now on the flats, but lucky to have an Aethos which is a tad over 6kg and is super fun to fly up the hills on. I really do notice the difference than on my heavier bikes.

[@garycrays6667]

My story is very similar. I'm 69 and 58kg and I absolutely love the way my Aethos feels, not just on sustained climbs, but also on the many rollers that I'm surrounded by where I live.

[@robbchastain3036]

So the GCN Racing News Show and the GCN Show are a great one-two punch at the start of the week, thanks, Dan and Si and all hosts called up from the bullpen. And I would still like to see Ollie revive his pre-GCN weekly show with his man-about-the-cycling-town vibe each Monday evening. This week's episode could've been therapeutic for him as he lamented this diminishment of aero by his mates and received lots of comforting comments from his fans, sort of a collective hug and another cup of coffee and a cheer for his aero glory days. 😀

[@angusfraser1598]

Great show this week! Makes me think that Dan’s improved fitness has also improved his mental speed and his sense of humor! Something all of us older riders could benefit from.

[@mattwirkkala]

Your new studio is acoustically bright.

[@gcn]

Soon, we’ll be recording the audio in the bathroom, so if you hear running water, now you know where it’s coming from

[@garycrays6667]

And not in a good way.

[@petervonl]

That was bloody awesome 🤩

[@CatManDoSocial]

Si, excellent use of the word "apoplectic". Bravo.

[@cosbro5389]

For my situation, heavy bikes are back...a 10kg gravel bike allows me to put out more power for slower speed which matches my slower reactions as I age...making staying strong a safer endeavour

[@DB-sj8km]

Bizarre take. Whatever works for you though.

[@chasc301]

Good to see (and hear) the Chuckle Brothers presenting from inside Lord Hank’s disused water tower. Quality.

[@crobbw]

most other sports, particularly those that endanger the participants, require protective clothing. Wearing Lycra at 60 kph is lunacy. UCI should require protective kit, this would stimulate investment in developing said kit that is comfortable, fast and protective. This would benefit us all.

[@thiscocks]

No one would wear it though.

[@maxt1617]

Any sub 7.3kg *rim brake* bike is a joy to ride (and work on).

[@lux-wattage]

Colnago could probably design the wildest bike imaginable as long as Pogi rides it. A bit crazy fits his personality perfectly. Whatever it looks like, Pogi fans would adapt and inevitably see it as cool.

[@Mavrik-60]

Lance won the races alright he just pissed the wrong somebody off and they hounded him relentlessly untill they found something. They can do that to any if the rider's they want. Got to be a member of there club whatever that means.

[@agamemnonhatred]

😂😂😂No, Armstrong won nothing.

[@cwgrivett]

#captioncompetition the new canyon in-flite launch is a success

[@unbridlededification]

Given what Si said, wouldn't it make sense to nullify all TDF records from that period?

[@Aeronwor]

Regarding the visualization with the hunk of beef, one would have thought that after the transformation Dan might have been enough. :D

[@jonathanfroggatt5865]

Lance Armstrong did win the Tour de France 🇫🇷 coz I saw it on tv 📺 😊

[@robaly123456789]

"The use of canyon bikes is reaching new heights in Dublin!"

[@JonPaul]

Good, now I can pull out my old Emonda at about 15lbs. I built it for hill climbs but then realized we have virtually no real hills in Iowa.

[@adrianhibberd9342]

Fantastic new set GCN

[@DanGRoberts]

"Spead it on my body" cracked me up. I actually lolled standing in the que in Tesco's, got a few funny looks.

[@KOIFLA]

Recently got an S-Works Tarmac SL-8. Aero at 6.6kg. Rides nice.

[@BikePappy]

#captioncompetition Is that a shadow stand? Super nice! 🛎️

[@shahrynnedmunds1921]

I get that there was a lot of cheating going on in the era of Lance Armstrong, but my impression (based on documentaries etc) is that he was also a bully. He clearly knew what he was doing and yet stood up in front of the world and held himself up as someone we should admire. He lied and cheated on many levels.

[@stevemawer848]

Agreed! He was beyond the pail compared to the relatively amateurish attempts by others. And he sued newspapers who told the truth and won! Awful man.

[@infocuslearning]

Horrible man. Loser of at least 7 Tours

[@garycrays6667]

That's always been my beef with Lance as well. He treated anyone who accused him of cheating with such utter contempt that for me at least, it overshadowed the actual cheating.

[@freebird61885]

He’s a pretty not great person. But, the rules don’t require you to be a great person. Merckx, Hinault, and tons of others were huge a-holes.

[@allanfoster6965]

New premises? Congratulations.🎉

[@gcn]

Nah, back to our original office! 🎉

[@albionmarch]

Looking forward to Dan's new video on the history of saddle bags.

[@MarkusFolkesson]

I have always priority durability and comfort over both lightweight and aero (well, I use bended bar because they are more aero, but not more than that). That is also good for my wallet because as a rule expensive bikes are also fragile as far as I know.

[@D2traveller]

Forget trying to get free tyres… but we all want to see a GCN presenter in Edmonton participating in one of those winter challenges. Make it happen!

[@bensteel1343]

Si looks a bit like a floating head with that top/background combo. 😂

[@ricokeijzer]

#Captioncompetition - Flying Dutchmans are really down to earth people

[@buzzman4860]

New studio with Hambini level sound

[@shaun7163]

The new studio looks great, the lighting is really good, glad you have your table back, but I have to agree with the other comments about the sound being "off"... Once you've got that dialled in, this set up is going to be amazing!

[@gcn]

for now…. We’ll get it sorted

[@mee3sy]

Caption: That's one hell of a canyon between those hurdles...

[@robbchastain3036]

Caption: "The fans enjoyed a day at the races, particularly the inflatables and the launchables." 😀

[@CAL7A]

Si and Dan wishing for less resin = Global Cannabis Network confirmed.

[@garycrays6667]

Si mentioned that the new studio is like a bat cave. Yes! That's exactly what it sounds like!

[@jgourdo]

On the Dan Bigham request… I wonder, counterintuitively, is it possible that by increasing the weight limit that it will open the market MORE for those that want lightweight bikes? I.e. brands make their top spec bike at or around the weight limit but if the WT becomes all about aerodynamics and heavier weight, perhaps the brands will start to make the 4/5kg bikes the people want!

[@notkaty]

Think it would mean the cheaper bikes become 10kg 😑

[@maitrivihara]

caption-the new beautiful bike can fly as the eye Canyon see

[@wwcyclery]

👉👉Caption Competition --- Good example of a bike --- That is just too light.👈👈

[@rdlperry]

A few have said already but yes, acoustic treatments would help in the new studio. GIK Acoustics make diffusers and absorption panels that look good too.

[@MrDavidlloyd86]

Caption - The bike to Simon - "Anything you can do, I canyon do better!"

[@david-olivierpham3364]

Yes, please improve the sound quality 😊

[@DaxHale]

27:42 The new 5 pound cyclocross bike from canyon. The secret… Helium. “Can be held by only your pinky” - Fallen Rider

[@Biketech4us]

good laugh and entertaining as usual,.... you know you're riding too much when cycling jokes are funny

[@KerryJapan1]

That new Colnago is channeling the old Kestrel.

[@raychessum2890]

Love the look of the new GCN mega base but can someone turn the forks round the right way on that Orbea on the wall behind you. It’s doing my head in!!!

[@Acousticmarine678]

Love my 2015 Domane 4.5 (rim brakes), goes for around 17lbs with the carbon handle bar and custom HED wheels (aluminum alloy) I put on about a year after buying the bike. The 28mm pro one tubeless tire setup running around 60psi makes for a very comfy ride. Lastly, I can and do all the maintenance, I love cables:)

[@oplkfdhgk]

1:30 nice power number 😀 it's perfect. even 1 watt more and it would have been ruined.😀

[@jethroduarteman]

Dan's hair looking great, so much more natural than a while ago. Fair play brother

[@gcn]

The rumour is that it is a wig

[@MrDfmcos]

Aero with light...winning combo😅😅

[@TobiasCassidy]

#Caption competition. If this was GCN tech Bike vault, Alex would be saying, "Its a wonky angle and the valves aren't aligned, but becasue of the shadow stand, it gets a super nice".

[@DJMSydney]

Hack: Bondage tape is easy to install and really does do a brilliant job of protecting your top tube. Bodge: the explicitly graphic diagrams that accompany the said bondage tape, especially when your wife opens the mail! My wife looked at me and shook her head like a disappointed parent and said; “Shaved legs, lycra and now bondage tape. You need professional help”….😂

[@space.youtube]

wahoo head unit, like all other "aero measuring" (lol) device with a single sensor rely so heavily on algorithmic assumptions that it's better described as a random number generator.

[@AMLay1234]

#captioncompetition Sky's the limit for this Canyon

[@Biker322]

I had an Scott Addict R1 in 2008, I've never had a lighter bike since. Missed that bike , was so good on climbs, especially with a set of Reynolds DV46 Tubular wheels , ended up owing it for 13 years before finally upgrading to a bike with disc brakes. Also rode a lot of gravel with it as well, id estimate it had down around 140,000kms

[@MountainClimberZoom]

After my bike was stolen, I went to my favorite shop to buy a replacement. They had an 18-year-old Torelli Titanio that was just placed on the rack to sell. I snagged it, and I have loved riding this lightweight titanium bike.

[@jonathanevans5677]

@captioncompetion: Lightweight bikes are indeed back. So light they float.

[@MarkMark-cl6fv]

The new Wahoo is chunky to say the least. I definitely don't need something to tell me whether I'm cycling into a headwind!

[@danielakerman8241]

Congrats on the new studio! Si in particular had a lot of slap-back echo on his audio. Sounds like his mic and the camera mic were both in the audio, or the room just needs some sound absorption.

[@darrentownson7652]

12 yards long and 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride, Canyon Aeroad, Canyon Aeroad

[@stewartmarler1416]

Caption: Senna Remijn raises his bike in what will go down as THE most premature victory celebration in cycling history.

[@colinrichards7572]

The Canyon Inflite CFR - Inflite by name, in-flight by nature...

[@nineunauk]

Caption: Canyon have gone from direct to consumer to direct to finish line for the CX season. Their riders are flying!!

[@tomspinks9049]

#captioncompetition Canyons 2028 lightweight and aero bike “so light you can ride it with your pinky”