AESPA 에스파 - ARMAGEDDON (4K FANCAM) 20240914 at KRAZY SUPER CONCERT

[@my.winter87]

Aespa ate! Vocals are 🔥🔥🔥

[@chrisl3732]

I don’t want to hear anymore slander about aespa live vocals. They all killed it I can’t wait for their next comeback

[@maemiming4568]

fr 😂haters gonna hate. but aespa has am impressive live vocals

[@ClintMVasquez]

The issue is not their love vocals, we all know these girls can sing and got some pipes. The problem is with the company who makes them lip sync all the time.

[@y0ung5one]

​@@ClintMVasqueztheir company is one thing, but kpop fans are also part of the issue. many other stages like this exist where aespa sings live, but instead they focus so much on the stages where they lip sync and make a fuss about it. to non fans or other people who don't really bother to watch stages/fancams like this, all they hear about is "aespa always lip sync".

[@urclue]

@@y0ung5one - fr. no thanks to those “fans” who always bringing their “lipsync” issues to every platform (despite they know dam well, it’s sm issue), the haters picked up that too and use it as weapon to mock aespa.

[@nodescription7286]

@@ClintMVasquez they don't lip sync all the time. this video is the proof for that. their voices need rest. aespa rarely have long break. even in their break, they still record song for osts, etc. i don't think there are singers on earth that can sing live entire time with busy schedule and song recording. especially idols with minimum two comebacks a year.

[@justlosergirl]

When aespa use a loud backing track and dance perfectly, people say aespa cant do live singing, when aespa do live singing now people say they are not good at dancing

[@klwtozier]

People just want to find reasons to spread hate, nothing satisfies them.

[@ClintMVasquez]

Those people are dumb. No one can do the choreos these girls do and sing perfectly live. It’s impossible.

[@urclue]

there’s no way u can hit high notes perfectly with heavy choreo and on heels. blackmambas just say anything to be salty.

[@moraeine]

ning❤ aespa‘s vocal ❤❤❤

[@carriemedina9501]

Ya sabemos 🙄

[@moraeine]

@@carriemedina9501？

[@moraeine]

@@carriemedina9501 Muy bueno❤️

[@JChris21]

Those crazy notes!

[@Renee-e5v]

ningning always has louder voice🥹the best vocalist

[@GsmCasa-xh1pl]

Ningning highnote in the end song

[@0greendragon]

Vocal queens

[@user1-b2g]

omg they finally sang this song live

[@dragonlight9321]

They sang live this song many time :)))) let's check again

[@mimiokoi]

I've seen them perform it live two other times

[@urclue]

Finally 🤡

[@user1-b2g]

@@dragonlight9321 i mean i saw them in their tour but they lipsynced this song. however other songs they sang are so amazing they have stable vocals and angelic voices

[@anhpham6506]

@@user1-b2g I went to the concert and I don't think Armageddon was lipsynced. They had louder backtrack to support them for sure and sang with lower volume to conserve energy, but I could hear their voice on top of the backtrack when they had to belt. I think they just master the technique to present a smooth vocal performance and great appearance on camera.

[@seerdaf7246]

I reaaallly need aespa coachella 2.0 with Drama, Supernova, and Armageddon A👏S👏A👏P👏

[@kaylanethania2326]

Okayy, ningning eat!!!

[@anhpham6506]

Ningning's ad lib is chef kiss

[@streamillusionandsavage5037]

im in love with their vocals

[@tamisnazzy7272]

Ningie😘

[@winingaerina]

ITS LIVE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@andref-ds8dt]

karina’s vocal being that stable without reducing the energy in dancing😮

[@klwtozier]

@@andref-ds8dt Her vocals are not as demanding as the other members, so her stability is "better"

[@aespaaess]

2:40 karina?!! omg she nailed that choreo, her power🫶🏻

[@yangyang-ij2qb]

Aespa 🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍

[@friedrice0922]

THE LIVE VOCALS??

[@hey_912]

Yassss

[@DUNGSTA]

The best in the game

[@JRKDAdventures]

Yeeees!!

[@P.KS20]

2:42 karina????? 2:28 ningning’s highnote 2:31 throw it back Giselle 3:03 center winter

[@ELISEAlyssa18]

They danced down a bit but nvm..those live vocals killed

[@dbskmidoyo]

Sometimes it's necessary to tone down on the dance a bit to stabilize your breathing as much as possible and aespa didn't take away from the choreo that much imo.

[@Jknvru]

Sorry Karina isn't included

[@ELISEAlyssa18]

@@dbskmidoyo i dont mind at all, i always prioritize idols vocals over dance. Well, you know crazy kpop fans (read as haters) would nitpicking everything about Aespa's performance. When they danced well with live vocals=lipsync. When Aespa danced down to focus on vocal projection=Aespa's dance sucks. For me i only stan idols who can sing

[@richardk-iz9qu]

karina did great imo, ningning kinda good too. i notice when they sing live karina is always the most energetic in dancing, but when they lipsync she kinda doesnt put that much power compare to when they sing live. thats why i wish SM let the girls sing live more often from now on, bcs they def enjoy doing it

[@Poop-pd9tg]

exactly, it's easier to be good at dancing/ especially just doing kpop choreos than actually SING SINGING.

[@winingaerina]

guys, they so tired after a long time tour few weeks ago. and they still dont have enough rest after that, now they have to attend krenzy concert, tma award, an more. no wonder if they dance so weakly 😞. but they still amazing 🔥

[@giangcam9600]

Karina vocal 😮

[@日罕霍]

N2 is best！❤

[@christian7370]

Who ask you? 😒

[@日罕霍]

@@christian7370 excuse in my opinion.if you don’t like ,just go!

[@Ning2_Yyds]

宁艺卓唱得好❤

[@lm__notbluudesu]

And they say aespa can't sing live while performing. What now haters?

[@goofingbear]

Giselle 10/10 Karina 10/10 Winter 10/10 Ningning 10/10

[@yvizuki]

gigi needs to start singing live more, u can hear the other 3 singing over the track but u can literally hear their voice. Ning Ning did amazing here but when it came to gigi her parts were quiet and I just hear the backing track. just need my fav to use her talent I know she has I miss hearing it

[@rosiya1]

[@codyody-qs5tt]

Karina can dance and still be stable while singing live wow other members dancing was meh here maybe because they don’t want to sound out of breath but karina puts so much strength in her dancing while also singing live

[@klwtozier]

Is it not possible for you to praise Karina without disparaging the other members? Kindly find something more productive to occupy your time; each member possesses her own unique style of performing on stage, and there is no singular standard to be met.

[@LMSYGANG]

Kelakuan solo stan karina di mana2 sama aja ya, TOXIC

[@user818jajajsj]

😂 there's clearly a motive for that, Karina is not the one singing the most important and harder parts so the anormal thing would be her being lazy when she does not need to save her voice for nothing

[@SeoJieunJieunie]

Real 😂, people forget that the order of aespa's most powerful vocals is: 1- NingNing 2- Winter 3- Giselle 4- Karina ​@@user818jajajsj

[@prmmdnn]

Giselle was sick while performing, Winter and Ningning got the hardest part in the song especially with the high notes so they'll have to sacrifice their dancing a bit, no need to pull down the other members just to compliment Karina

[@PawKitty-kv8hc]

They served vocals, but some notes for Giselle that she needs to step up the game in live performances. I notice that every time aespa sings live, giselle seems unconfindent that i rarely hear her voice. I can hear karina, winter, and ning ning voices over the backtrack but it's not for giselle. I know giselle is a better rapper but she doesnt have the charisma or powerful presence as a rapper. Her voice tend to be swallowed by the backtrack everytime aespa sings live. That's why giselles seems to have least fans because she always get overshadowed by other members in terms of visual, singing, rapping, dancing and stage presence.

[@klwtozier]

@@PawKitty-kv8hc What you said is unfounded. Giselle possesses stage presence, sings, raps, and has the looks; you, who prefer to overshadow her, fail to see that Giselle is excellent on stage and is already an ace of the group. You simply do not recognise this because you choose not to, dismissing all that she has contributed to aespa and constantly belittling her efforts. She does far more than you realise for aespa's success today. She is an extremely charismatic individual on stage, interacts with fans, and is not insecure about her singing. It is not her fault if the company assigns her fewer lines in the songs; if she had more lines, it would be remarkable as her vocal ability surpasses that of Karina. You are just not ready to acknowledge that the company is undermining her. During that same performance, she complained to the production about the microphone being too low more than three times yet maintained her professionalism. It is insufferable of you to demand something from an idol without even having watched the entire show.

[@4espababy]

You simply don't know Giselle. You barely realise that her vocals are superior to Karina's, and you’re unaware that she has been unwell this week, yet still attended the show. If she hadn't, you'd likely criticise her for that as well. Giselle does far more than you give her credit for. Without Giselle, aespa would never have achieved the fame it has; she created the entire concept, introduced rap, and yet you claim she doesn't stand out on stage. The blame for all this lies with the company, which consistently gives her fewer lines. You are fully aware of her potential but still attempt to overshadow her by comparing her to the other members. Karina’s stage presence stands out because her vocals aren’t as demanding as those of Ningning, Winter, and Giselle. If you knew anything about singing, you’d understand that performing vocally requires less movement on stage. You are simply ignorant when it comes to Giselle. Admit that you don’t like her because you're an OT3, and you don’t even bother hiding your favouritism. You’re always trying to undervalue her work, constantly complaining about *everything*. I always notice that, when it comes to Giselle, you never offer support, and you’re always criticising her with lies. You’re just looking for someone to hate for no reason.

[@PawKitty-kv8hc]

@@klwtozier from what Ive seen since aespa debut. Giselle is still insecure in her singing in my opinion. Yes she improves her dancing but still on some performances she still cant synchronize or catch up slightly for a second and some are noticeable. She as a rappers doesnt stand out enough or giving powerful presence compared to other rappers like kyujin nmixx, ruka, asa and ahyeon baby Monster. Karina is choosen to have more lines considering she is good at delivering it in performances that's why she always get chosen as the opening in almost aespa's music video. I know Giselle is better rapper and singer than Karina but Giselle needs to train her presence more and put much energy and maybe doing some adlibs like another rappers in other groups while performing. I just hope giselle gain more confidence and do better next time.

[@klwtozier]

@@PawKitty-kv8hc You continue to hold a weak opinion. Giselle is not insecure when singing; her insecurity was caused by you and by internet users who made her believe she danced poorly when in fact she was dancing well. You did not support her. If you truly follow aespa, you know she has ALWAYS been wronged, and they have consistently favoured Karina because Giselle is Japanese and not the visual of the group. Another of your errors is thinking that Karina starts the songs because of her stage presence. Little do you know that Karina begins the songs because she is the leader and the oldest member of the group; it is not a matter of talent or performance, but of position within the group, as each member has a role. Karina also makes many mistakes on stage, but you refuse to acknowledge them because you are a fan. Giselle is always criticised for everything. If she shows charisma and confidence, you complain, but if she does nothing to stand out, you call her uncharismatic. Giselle has always been disrespected by you and the company; you always place all the weight on her, despite knowing that everyone there is doing their best and also makes mistakes. Mistakes are human.

[@PawKitty-kv8hc]

@@klwtozier i don't say Giselle dance poorly tho. I appreciate her dance improvement compared to the savage and girls era. But she still slightly late or fast for a second in some performances. And I don't even complain her detail coz not everyone can master some skills in dancing like pop and lock. I just hope she improves more how to more synchronize. And u are so wrong that Sayung being the start of a music video because a member is a leader or the oldest one. Boemgyu txt said that choosing the starter of a music video is an important thing because that's the thing which attracts or grabs viewers interests to watch the MV not just because a member is a leader or the oldest. I just hope giselle more relaxed in a performance like a rapper should do like doing an adlibs. I know she has fewest lines in aespa but she can make the fewest lines she has become memorable by giving spectacular performance.

[@jmw19845]

외국 팬 여러분들 궁금한게 있습니다. 여러분들은 한국 k-pop의 AR 라이브를 어떻게 생각 합니까? 사기라고 생각 하나요?

[@ELISEAlyssa18]

Hold on a second. Are you trying to imply that in this clip they didnt sing live?

[@jmw19845]

​​@@ELISEAlyssa18그건 아닙니다. 이 영상에서의 에스파는 라이브를 훌륭하게 소화했다고 생각합니다😊 단지 저는 요즘 케이팝에서 흔히 하고 있는 AR 위에 라이브를 하는 것에 대해 고민 중이었습니다. 처음에는 AR이 들어간 라이브는 라이브가 아니라고 생각했지만 케이팝 특성상 숨이 차는 안무와 동시에 노래를 해야 하기 때문에 AR이 어느정도 들어가는 것에 대해 이해를 했습니다. 왜냐면 AR없이 한곡만 생라이브를 부르면 음정이 안맞게 되고 더 좋게 들리기 위해 노래를 한다면 몇 곡 부르지도 못하고 가수들의 성대는 고장날 것이기 때문입니다. 하지만 외국인 입장에선 어떻게 받아들이는지 궁금합니다.

[@urclue]

@@jmw19845 - I personally don’t mind it and don’t think it’s a scam as long the Idols themselves proved it they’re indeed can sing and didn’t sounds different from their recorded vocals in the original song. Cause’ some idols does sounds different when they sang live w/o AR, because of hella autotunes their company put into their recorded vocals 😀 But I hope they don’t do AR all the time, because sometimes raw vocals is more fun and made them human. Also for concerts, I hope they use AR as minimal as possible, because fans are paying to hear their voices live. It’s okay to tune down the choreo a bit. Maybe use AR only for your hit iconic song (eg for aespa: Next Level, Supernova). +) I do understand for concert they need to use AR for some songs to let the idols breathe and to protect their vocal chord. And maybe on the some events/shows they use AR because the idols’s throat isn’t in good condition.

[@ELISEAlyssa18]

​@@jmw19845thanks for explaning it to me. In Aespa's case I have seen them couple of time singing without AR or back track so i kinda know their raw vocals do not sound far from the recording. So when they sing on top of AR, i dont find it as a scam, especially when it involved heavy choreography. I can name a few other gg who depended 90% on live AR and their raw vocals sounded 100% different from the recording. This is the case of "scam". I shall not name which gg so let's just leave it here as in not to create war with other fandoms 😅

[@jmw19845]

​@@urclue답변 감사합니다. 저는 외국 팬분들이 아이돌이 백트랩을 사용하는 것을 모르고 있다면 사기가 아닌가 하는 의심을 했었습니다. 😂 저 역시 가수들의 생 목소리를 좋아하며, 많은 노래에서 AR 없는 노래를 듣고 싶습니다. 실제로 노래 잘하는 가수들의 무반주를 듣는 것은 너무 좋더군요^^

[@afifaalwiya4301]

What is wrong with Winter? 😢

[@DragKpoplover]

Giselle is lipsyncing..u can tell from the 2nd chorus. No hate because the other 3 sang live but not her

[@klwtozier]

They are all singing live, stop hiding your hate, we all know you just want to attack Giselle for no reason.

[@DragKpoplover]

@@klwtozier not really. I'm just being realistic fan, not blind delulu. Giselle did not sing live here. The others, yes. And saying she lipsync is not a hate BTW. U were just triggered

[@klwtozier]

​@@DragKpoplover If you only notice the movements, you'll conclude that everyone is lip-syncing. You, disguised as fans, love to attack only Giselle. If she's lip-syncing, then everyone is. Learn to pay attention, here is one of the performances from that same show. Stop trying to put all the blame on Giselle; it’s obvious they’re all singing live. Her movement when the microphone is away also makes the sound disappear - you're just being inattentive.

[@mi-jinasmr.1221]

You are determined to despise Giselle at all costs, as you constantly attack her, without even concealing your baseless hatred. It is impossible for only one to be lip-syncing; if one is, then they all are.

[@4espababy]

If Giselle is dubbing, they all are, go find something to do, they are all singing live.