Aesthetics: Crash Course Philosophy #31

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How do art and morality intersect? Today we look at an ethically questionable work of art and discuss R. G. Collingwood’s view that art is best when it helps us live better lives. We’ll go over Aristotle’s concept of catharsis and how it can resolve the problem of tragedy. We are also exploring the paradox of fiction and the debate between autonomism and moralism.
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@joshuajones888
@joshuajones888 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind me, just keeping the chom chom trend alive
@razatsutradhar7059
@razatsutradhar7059 7 жыл бұрын
Is anyone going to question the monkey's name? Naruto
@shredheadbob9972
@shredheadbob9972 7 жыл бұрын
NARUTO HAHAHA
@christian_swjy
@christian_swjy 7 жыл бұрын
IKR hahahahaha
@strawberrymilksamurai
@strawberrymilksamurai 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@children_of_indigo
@children_of_indigo 4 жыл бұрын
The artist behind the photo is the camera. The camera blended light to create the creation we adore. 😏
@-westman3619
@-westman3619 4 жыл бұрын
@@children_of_indigo And the camera is used without its consent at the whims of someone who claims unashamedly to own it. Would that then mean that the camera is a slave? By extension does that mean all cameras are slaves? If in fact they are, then all photo and videographic representations of our history only exist by means of slavery?
@kaelobmiller7025
@kaelobmiller7025 4 жыл бұрын
That one hair that stood out of place on Hank’s head was art.
@AdamService
@AdamService 7 жыл бұрын
I love that Hank calls out his brother John for not agreeing with Aristotle though he came up with Catharsis-an emotion many, many people felt while reading or watching John's own art, A Fault in Our Stars.
@neri7538
@neri7538 4 жыл бұрын
Charm Hole thanks I was wondering who John was and why he said things that are so spectacularly wrong about Aristotle
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 7 жыл бұрын
At some point during the 1960s, someone (possibly an employee of EMI) obtained a recording of birds singing for EMI's sound catalog. Later, that recording of those birds was used by the Beatles for the song "Blackbird". Later still, Pink Floyd used those same birds for "Goodbye Blue Sky". Now, the sound artist for EMI didn't cue the birds when to sing or prompt them in any manner whatsoever. All he did was place a recording device in the area and that device eventually picked up the sound of those birds. Just like David Slater (who had to turn on his camera), the only action taken by the sound engineer was turning on his recorder. After that, the engineer had no more control than Slater did when it came to what ended up being recorded. By the copyright office's logic, does that mean the descendants of those birds are owed back royalties from both the Beatles and Pink Floyd?
@sada0101
@sada0101 7 жыл бұрын
If you can find them, sure. :D
@GregTom2
@GregTom2 7 жыл бұрын
From that logic anyone could rip off the cinematic camera shots of lord of the ring for their own movies without paying 200 000$ to rent helicopters and visit faraway locations. The guy owned a recorder, wanted bird sound samples, and actually went through the effort of recording it. He should be able to benefit from the work he did.
@thebonesaw..4634
@thebonesaw..4634 7 жыл бұрын
GregTom2 -- That's my point. David Slater did the same thing. He wanted to get pictures of monkeys, so he took his camera to an area where monkeys were, turned his camera on (the monkey didn't do it), then he allowed the monkey to grab the camera to see what would happen. Aesthetically, everything that ended up on film was guided (no matter how loosely) by Slater's willful actions... which means all of the shots, including the ones snapped by the monkey, should be considered his. I would like to add that, I don't believe Slater's story. I'm of the opinion that Slater either took that photo himself, or he otherwise coaxed the monkey into taking it. Slater then invented that story in an effort to make his photo go viral (which it did). Slater screwed himself with his own story because he gave the monkey way too much credit (more credit than it deserved). And that ended up causing him to lose the rights to his own photograph in the process (poetic justice).
@lumen8341
@lumen8341 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebonesaw..4634 it's honestly delightful and hilarious when you put it like that.
@josie7287
@josie7287 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebonesaw..4634 also, what would the monkey or the birds do with the money? they aren't humans. all this stuff with recording and money and copyright is just the society that we humans created. the animals don't have anything to do with it. obviously we shouldn't be cruel to animals, but sometime peta goes a little to far with that. the monkey wasn't going to be harmed if it didn't get the money or the rights to the picture. Also, peta released a vegan guide to playing animal crossing; the bugs and fish in animal crossing aren't real they are just numbers in a program and lights on a screen. Im not completly against peta or anything tho.
@BenCadetThePastafarian
@BenCadetThePastafarian 7 жыл бұрын
chom choms are yom yom in my tom tom
@seanisawesome000
@seanisawesome000 7 жыл бұрын
🍌🍌🍌🍌
@qaedtgh2091
@qaedtgh2091 7 жыл бұрын
nom nom nom
@cas_thefriendlyghost2156
@cas_thefriendlyghost2156 7 жыл бұрын
You like Chom Choms, too? 0.0
@haleygold9481
@haleygold9481 7 жыл бұрын
NOM
@BenCadetThePastafarian
@BenCadetThePastafarian 7 жыл бұрын
NiggaBlossom Oh yea? Choms Choms no like you!
@ThePrimoZ
@ThePrimoZ 7 жыл бұрын
A E S T H E T I C
@MagiciteHeart
@MagiciteHeart 7 жыл бұрын
S A D B O Y S ™ and S A D G I ® L S unite!
@boris8105
@boris8105 7 жыл бұрын
The_Primo_Z Could you explain please? Where is this phenomenon from?
@ThePrimoZ
@ThePrimoZ 7 жыл бұрын
n o i d e a t b h
@boris8105
@boris8105 7 жыл бұрын
The_Primo_Z K t h a n k s t h o
@KatSnowmew
@KatSnowmew 7 жыл бұрын
it's vaporwave
@Zeldaschampion
@Zeldaschampion 7 жыл бұрын
So blending a goldfish is animal cruelty but boiling a live lobster isn't. Ok.....
@whitecrowcodoom
@whitecrowcodoom 7 жыл бұрын
The difference is one you eat the other is killed for the sake of killing, and for others amusement
@intelX1000
@intelX1000 7 жыл бұрын
+David Pardy Taste is okay, but thought isn't?
@whitecrowcodoom
@whitecrowcodoom 7 жыл бұрын
No its okay I just saw a lot of people saying stuff like "oh gold fish blending is bad then why isn't killing cows bad" I honestly applaud that piece of art
@LashknifeTalon
@LashknifeTalon 7 жыл бұрын
So I guess blending goldfish would be okay if you drank the contents of the blender afterwards?
@warumzumquadrat
@warumzumquadrat 7 жыл бұрын
If the content of the blender were drunken up with the intention to actually get nurished, than yeah. If it were drunken for the sake of a sadistic show element, than no.
@lukaslambs5780
@lukaslambs5780 7 жыл бұрын
That goldfish blender exhibit is twisted, but genius
@lumen8341
@lumen8341 5 жыл бұрын
found the voyeur
@shostycellist
@shostycellist 6 жыл бұрын
I am in the arts - I have a doctorate in cello performance - and I always chuckle at some of the philosophers' comments on art. There has been an "aesthetic Puritanism" among some philosophers that have a problem with a person simply having a pleasurable experience with art, and feel the need to give art some higher "purpose" beyond just a wonderful encounter with the beautiful. It's all quite silly. They feel they have to justify art as having some higher purpose such as a moral purpose and so on. I like what Kant said; to have an aesthetic experience you have to *put aside* all scientific explanations or ideas of the utilitarian purpose of the object and simply enjoy it for it's beauty. If you approach art from the standpoint of the utilitarian or scientific you will miss the beauty. Take for example a beautiful piece of land with a river running through it surrounded by mountains with a host of trees; if you look at it and think about its purpose such as, "This would make a great place for my farm. I could put the chickens there, and the cows over there" or a scientific explanation as to how the valley came into being, or even "This would make a great financial investment", you will miss the beauty.
@icarusnote
@icarusnote 7 жыл бұрын
No fish were harmed in the making of this episode.
@amused6415
@amused6415 7 жыл бұрын
"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable." - Banksy
@NawidN
@NawidN 7 жыл бұрын
"Stick-with-it-ness"? You mean "perseverance".
@allisonscanlan4144
@allisonscanlan4144 5 жыл бұрын
I think he means glue
@geepersweepers3184
@geepersweepers3184 4 жыл бұрын
Allison Scanlan Or maybe duct tape
@aragonbuckle7743
@aragonbuckle7743 4 жыл бұрын
Dont be so dreary. People dont have to express and talk like you want
@verdatum
@verdatum 7 жыл бұрын
I so love catharsis. I have moments where it feels like I need that feeling more than just about anything. I can't say I know what that means. But if there weren't those forms of art, I fear there'd be times where I'd snap like a bowstring.
@khills242
@khills242 7 жыл бұрын
About to fail my philosophy exam
@Richi_Boi
@Richi_Boi 7 жыл бұрын
good luck dude, u might need it
@FengMei99
@FengMei99 7 жыл бұрын
same here 👋👋😥😭😭
@peterj1979
@peterj1979 7 жыл бұрын
You don't appear to be very concerned about it.
@khills242
@khills242 7 жыл бұрын
why fight it...at that point it was fate
@nealkelly9757
@nealkelly9757 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Hills Determinism is true so you are right
@thomasr.jackson2940
@thomasr.jackson2940 7 жыл бұрын
One of the most prominent features of human cognition is the ability to treat make believe objects as real. Countries, money, laws, these are all abstract inventions. I see nothing different about our ability to experience emotional responses from fiction or other art, or any good reason to assume without evidence that our emotions aren't "real", whatever that means. True, people do tend to process and react to a death on the big screen differently than one on the sidewalk. But even that distinction is blurred. Your Uncle Tom's Cabin example is a case in point, with readers acting more appropriately to the fate of fictional characters than they did to the conditions of real human beings. Goodness, badness, or morality of art is a different matter, but as for its actions on our minds, there is no reason to imagine and invent some special mechanism at play different from our reactions and interactions to the world in general. They both manipulate the same neural machinery in similar fashions. Philosophy should not abandon science or think of itself as some separate discipline unrelated to its "higher" concerns. A great error of the nineteenth century.
@elephantwarrior53
@elephantwarrior53 7 жыл бұрын
That was amazing, however, money and nation are divisive, while art generally is unifying. They are 2 sides of the same coin, but one deserves to be face down.
@thomasr.jackson2940
@thomasr.jackson2940 7 жыл бұрын
Elephant Warrior perhaps. But money and nation and other abstractions have also been enormously unifying, enough so to produce civilizations and amazing technical progress. And art has its divisive points too, sometimes intentionally so. I would also include a great deal of religious material, iconography, stories, architecture, rituals, as art, with its own history of both unification and division. But some insist on putting this in its own category. I suspect the principals are very similar though.
@Cantabile
@Cantabile 7 жыл бұрын
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@andrelee7081
@andrelee7081 7 жыл бұрын
The human capacity for symbolic thinking is truly amazing; we can create symbols and imbue deep meaning into them, and these meanings in turn change us and our reality. You might be interested to know that in anthropology, there is a theory that as natural selection gave us the ability to have culture, culture in turn helped drive our evolution into what we are today.
@firedunebuggy2581
@firedunebuggy2581 7 жыл бұрын
Most modern philosophers today are working under a broad umbrella term of 'New Realism'. Philosophers like Thomas Nagel, Susan Haack, the late Umberto Eco, Diego Marconi, the late John Searle, the late Hilary Putnam, Lewis Gordon - just to name a few - have a new definition of 'realism' that 1) makes a distinction between 'being' and 'existence' (A distinction that goes back to Alexius Meinong). 2) Defines existence soley through a specialized form of 'context.' _I.e. existence without context is ruled out by definition._ So if we say that 'a country' doesn't exist, what we really mean is that it does not exist in a context without humans, but we also imply that it _does exist_ in the context of human existence.
@DuranmanX
@DuranmanX 7 жыл бұрын
After watching this, how are video games not considered art?
@P1nstr1p3
@P1nstr1p3 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian Duran they are by most people.
@EmperorLjas
@EmperorLjas 7 жыл бұрын
They are. People who say otherwise just haven't noticed that 20 years have passed by.
@SlocketSeven
@SlocketSeven 7 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about the aesthetic meaning of goat simulator. Some games are just simple escapism. I don't go looking for escapism when I'm looking for art. Other games with a decent story? Yup. Clearly art.
@theemathas
@theemathas 7 жыл бұрын
Some art is just simple escapism too, so video games can be art.
@JustianoHolguin
@JustianoHolguin 7 жыл бұрын
Well, is too controversial and complicate for some people.
@tobi2731
@tobi2731 7 жыл бұрын
I really do think about Helena (the goldfish installation) as amazing art but it's also incredibly scary and not directly because of the potential death of the goldfish (although that's also not a nice thought) but rather because of the reflections it questions not only us as individuals but even our whole society and the concept of living.
@StCrimson667
@StCrimson667 7 жыл бұрын
I want to create magic art and, hopefully one day, the world will get to experience it.
@TyDreacon
@TyDreacon 7 жыл бұрын
Wish you the best of luck and confidence!
@jmiquelmb
@jmiquelmb 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Marion My piece of advise is: don't expect public acclaim, or cult classic. Just try to make something you value, and think others can enjoy. I think it's the right attitude, doesn't matter if it's a success or not
@ManSeaweed
@ManSeaweed 7 жыл бұрын
hopefully you get to make it in the first place is more like it
@StCrimson667
@StCrimson667 7 жыл бұрын
+TyDreacon Thanks! :D
@AlexTrusk91
@AlexTrusk91 7 жыл бұрын
wish you sucess. think about your life, what matters and what changes it, what may change it. If i do this, its like a fountain of toughts for paintings, texts and even music.
@akap
@akap 7 жыл бұрын
"Interntional artist."
@Spirolli
@Spirolli 7 жыл бұрын
Ehrmagerd, interntional ertists!!!
@EL3CTROSLAP
@EL3CTROSLAP 7 жыл бұрын
It's just the aesthetic bruh
@dawn8293
@dawn8293 6 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the question "Do we have an obligation to consume certain media/art in order to improve our outlook?" I've had many friends try to pressure me into watching certain movies that I'd rather not, and their reasoning is that it changes the way you think. I would love to know what philosophers have said about this.
@cavejohnson9938
@cavejohnson9938 7 жыл бұрын
And here I thought Aesthetic were all about vaporwave and Meme
@ArcturusMinsk
@ArcturusMinsk 7 жыл бұрын
Chariots Chariots
@mickeynotmouse
@mickeynotmouse 7 жыл бұрын
and for that im gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN with the LEMONS
@johnnysparks44
@johnnysparks44 7 жыл бұрын
Western Civilization was Precipitated on the Principles of Greek Egyptian Sumerian Babylonian language...Roman was Forced upon our World by Priest of the Catholic ordo... Priori is Key to Most Gnosis you seek,,,, Enoch a Door was open,, Jesus said He Knock The Door is Open,,, I Knock Every Door Opens says a Me.
@SirGamerismify
@SirGamerismify 7 жыл бұрын
w h o s a y s i t i s n t ?
@johnnysparks44
@johnnysparks44 7 жыл бұрын
Crash course is fun
@QuarterMoonRachel
@QuarterMoonRachel 7 жыл бұрын
I was never very interested in philosophy before I started watching these crash course vids and now I look forward to every new episode. Thanks crash course for giving me a fun and interesting way into this subject :D
@JK_2998
@JK_2998 7 жыл бұрын
A E S T H E T I C S
@MagiciteHeart
@MagiciteHeart 7 жыл бұрын
S A D B O Y S ™ and S A D G I ® L S unite!
@janelippfanclub5086
@janelippfanclub5086 7 жыл бұрын
you mean Aesthetic
@4l3t
@4l3t 7 жыл бұрын
Gym is all the dopamine i can afford, so full of herpes, damn you cheap dopamine you cause cancers... and you killed zyzz stop mirin [at] me brah... damnit brain we need more RAM... and cocaine
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 4 жыл бұрын
Could films , literature, and fiction, also be considered of aesthetic philosophy because films are considered an art JK
@rogerpenroset.blaine4233
@rogerpenroset.blaine4233 4 жыл бұрын
N A R U T O
@szotyaGD
@szotyaGD 5 жыл бұрын
i'm doing a minor in aesthetics at uni and still had learned so much from just one short video.. amazing how you can compress knowledge into 10 mins :O thanks for the experience
@littl3chik0r1t4
@littl3chik0r1t4 7 жыл бұрын
I came for the art and thought process behind it just to be mindblown that an actual primate is named after an anime character created by Kishimoto. we have come far. What a great time to be alive.
@maldoran9150
@maldoran9150 7 жыл бұрын
This somehow quickly became my favorite crash course series. Unexpected and very welcome, thank you!
@date_vape
@date_vape 7 жыл бұрын
Slater should get thoser pics... if a human stole my camera and took a selfie, I wouldn't consider that to be their property.
@cas_thefriendlyghost2156
@cas_thefriendlyghost2156 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I tell my friends that if they take silly pictures on my phone, they'll never go away lol
@date_vape
@date_vape 7 жыл бұрын
LavernLC But was your phone stolen from you at the time against your consent, is the question? If that's the case I'd argue that it isn't their property, it's yours and you can ues it as evidence as well.
@GMovieSeeker
@GMovieSeeker 7 жыл бұрын
How come nobody argues that Naruto is an animal, and that animals can't own property, since property is a human concept? The only situation in which animals could legally "own" property is when a human "gives" them the property; and even then what gives the animal a right to "own" the property is human will.
@date_vape
@date_vape 7 жыл бұрын
GMovieSeeker True...But I think the argument here is more that the man can't own it because he didn't create it... which doesn't make any sense because zoos sell paintings made by elephants all of the time.... It just seems like PETA trying to make a point, and a publicity stunt, as always.
@SyskeBehard
@SyskeBehard 7 жыл бұрын
Art, like everything else, does not exist in a vacuum. If someone's art does harm, directly or indirectly, they are not immune to responsibility for that harm.
@justtheouch
@justtheouch 7 жыл бұрын
SyskeBehard Does that subsequently reduce the aesthetic value of the art though?
@benjaminchen8857
@benjaminchen8857 7 жыл бұрын
Aesthetic value is valued by its novelty. Since the resulting work is also novel, but in a different way, it has undergone both reduction and growth. Whether that is a net reduction depends on the viewer.
@endofjourney665
@endofjourney665 6 жыл бұрын
It is stupid. The one who is guilty is the one who did the crime, not the one who inspired the other to do so. If we say that artist is guilty why then we don't say that the guilty one is actually somebody else who inspired him to create the product of art? And then infinity of the guilty ones. Like all humanity history is guilty because you read this comment, then you may get angry and kill somebody. Lol
@ReallyNo.01
@ReallyNo.01 Жыл бұрын
6:53 even though we don't want to admit we all think about it. The things that make others sad.
@basyoni95
@basyoni95 7 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of this course, thanks to everyone who helped make this show
@hollandscottthomas
@hollandscottthomas 7 жыл бұрын
Follow up episode on Neo-Materialism? Who creates the artistic image? The person taking the photo? The subject that lends themself to its creation? The creators of like art that inspired it? The company that manufactures the camera? The designer who made the schematics? The worker in the factory that machines the parts? The person who discovered the technique behind the process of photography? And so on and so forth. It's a really fascinating wormhole :)
@andrewkiminhwan
@andrewkiminhwan 7 жыл бұрын
my favorite crashcourse, great timing too!
@lisa_in_space
@lisa_in_space 7 жыл бұрын
I love this series so much! Thank you for being so inspiring 😊
@Ngamotu83
@Ngamotu83 7 жыл бұрын
4:41 "Art requires an interntional artist." But what about intentional artists? That aside, considering that the sorts of cameras used by professional photographers, don't require much configuring by the photographer and have features such as autofocus, that allow for quality photos to be taken without any intent required on the part of the one handling the camera. So, no, Naruto is not the artist behind that photo, and can't claim copyright. Never mind, that the whole scenario begs the question, what would a monkey do with money?
@pirrepe
@pirrepe 7 жыл бұрын
only a percentage of the money; you know, for the trouble.
@mickioo
@mickioo 7 жыл бұрын
pirrepe I doubt the induvidual monkey would have gotten any real money, perhaps they would give him some prensents (chom choms offcourse) just to appease the people that are strict on it. I don't believe they had to truly believe that the animal had a right to copyright, just looking to exploit a legal loophole for the purpose of helping their organization, financially and for publicity.
@knewledge8626
@knewledge8626 5 жыл бұрын
Get elected president.
@nikkifeltman8523
@nikkifeltman8523 7 жыл бұрын
I watched this while eating a chom chom
@Lemwell7
@Lemwell7 7 жыл бұрын
Naruto? Who named them naruto?
@lumen8341
@lumen8341 5 жыл бұрын
lol weebs killing me over here. Naruto is a fish cake. the ninja is named after the same thing the monkey was. I know, joke, but it's a reeeeeeeeeally common comment and it hurts my soul. Naruto is so frickin' good, too. try it.
@the_official_ballbagman
@the_official_ballbagman 5 жыл бұрын
kagebugino gusu
@nicobellic2238
@nicobellic2238 4 жыл бұрын
@@lumen8341 What makes you think the monkey was named after the fish cake and not the character?
@margaritamartija6611
@margaritamartija6611 4 жыл бұрын
Nico Bellic also isn’t being named after a fish cake weirder than being named after a sentient character
@fromscratchauntybindy9743
@fromscratchauntybindy9743 7 жыл бұрын
I would have loved it if this episode was even longer! Fascinating :)
@Bartholomule01
@Bartholomule01 7 жыл бұрын
I love catharsis. There aren't a bunch of songs that can bring me to tears but there are a few I can go back to when I want to cry that do it for me, it's great.
@mrswan7745
@mrswan7745 7 жыл бұрын
Crying for the death of a character? ONE WORD: Hodor
@henriquemiranda393
@henriquemiranda393 7 жыл бұрын
A S S T E S T I C L E S
@reemar2168
@reemar2168 7 жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting video! Great job CrashCourse! :)
@LyssandraNorton
@LyssandraNorton 7 жыл бұрын
As an art maker, I appreciated this immensely. So much of this makes a lot of my decisions make more sense and give them more meaning when I make them.
@dowLoveTap
@dowLoveTap 7 жыл бұрын
Aesthetic Meme
@IAmSnuffles
@IAmSnuffles 7 жыл бұрын
4:40 "Art requires an international artist."
@irynastavynska6329
@irynastavynska6329 6 жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing course. Thank you so much! Now I feel like philosophy is so fascinating and important, and very helpful in my every day life!
@katherinemosquera2732
@katherinemosquera2732 7 жыл бұрын
This would have been really great a year ago whilst I was studying a module of Philosophy and the Arts at uni! dammit! So much love for this channel.
@knownstranger2570
@knownstranger2570 Жыл бұрын
But can someone tell me why art/ beauty/ aesthetics are so attractive when it has no survival need...I'm talking about the beauty of things in general not just humans
@nizzy1999
@nizzy1999 7 жыл бұрын
"ART! (whoo, yeah) WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!" -Plato (probably) if you get that reference we can be friends
@josie7287
@josie7287 4 жыл бұрын
sorry i dont get your reference but what are you referencing
@claire413
@claire413 4 жыл бұрын
lmao uhhh this isnt a reference to edwin starr is it
@toreinimene1071
@toreinimene1071 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode, Hank.
@SpartanAegis
@SpartanAegis 7 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this series
@PhosphorusThoth
@PhosphorusThoth 7 жыл бұрын
In the republic Plato is not actually against art. He is describing a terrible state where everything is banned so he can make the point at the end of the republic that if everything is banned then the citizens will have no experience in life and will not be wise. In the symposium he talks about how artist are inspired by love and love is the greatest helper in seeing the Beautiful which is the Good, Truth, and God.
@satriapramana300
@satriapramana300 4 жыл бұрын
Hi crashcourse, thank you again for an informative video. I'm still confused though about the distinction between the philosophy of aesthetics and the philosophy of art. From what I've read, what you're explaining in this video is more specifically gravitated towards the philosophy of arts and not (more generally) of aesthetics. I think this is quite an important distinction to begin with, because the philosophy of aesthetics itself hasn't reached a conclusion to whether or not it should only be concerned with the "arts" or - more broadly - of "beauty" and "taste". It would be much appreciated if you could clarify this question. Thank you again :))
@ekin9359
@ekin9359 4 жыл бұрын
The channel I was looking for a long time. Just throws knowledge on you...
@raquelnovelortega5577
@raquelnovelortega5577 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh i just can't get over how liberating this videos are
@h.m.d.2989
@h.m.d.2989 4 жыл бұрын
*I CRY REAL TEARS BECAUSE DUMBLEDORE WAS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF MY CHILDHOOD YOU MONSTER*
@MagikosEksMaikhina
@MagikosEksMaikhina 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, the selfie monkey's name was Naruto? I'm just imagining this otaku nature photographer like "This one's Rukia, and this one,s luffy, and, GUTS STOP SMASHING THINGS DAMNIT!"
@levidunn2055
@levidunn2055 7 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of writing a paper on literary aesthetics, so this is perfect!
@nadyaam.1139
@nadyaam.1139 4 жыл бұрын
Aestheticism is underrated yet most philosophers have had the experience or the tag. You guys need to make more vids on this. Thanks!
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 7 жыл бұрын
No goldfish were harmed in the making of this episode.
@ariel_haymarket
@ariel_haymarket 7 жыл бұрын
probably helps to think of PETA not as an activist group but as a group that proclaims that it is an activist for animal rights, but instead work against the animal (see the various reports about their euthanizing various household animals that couldn't be adopted) or for their own self-interest (I mean, let's be honest, WHO would be getting the profits from the sales of Naruto's photos?)
@Bartholomule01
@Bartholomule01 7 жыл бұрын
+
@elephantwarrior53
@elephantwarrior53 7 жыл бұрын
I think the profits should go to the park where he lived to promote conservation.
@jmiquelmb
@jmiquelmb 7 жыл бұрын
khesed Masashi Kishimoto
@josephineblum5506
@josephineblum5506 7 жыл бұрын
it's better to euthanize an animal that wouldn't be able to find a home than to make it spend its entire life in a cage.
@discountconsulting
@discountconsulting 7 жыл бұрын
If you start justifying killing as an alternative to suffering, where do you draw the line? Suffering is relative and without it, no being could ever experience relief or deliverance from suffering.
@JungleScene
@JungleScene 7 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting the chom chom reference haha. Well done Crash Course!!
@edgar9422
@edgar9422 Жыл бұрын
I love this video keep up the good work :)
@Infernoraptor
@Infernoraptor 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused about Walton's "quasi emotion" argument. If he defines quasi-emotions as emotions felt in the context of fiction, isn't that kind of a tautological cop-out? All he's doing is saying the "quasi-emotions" aren't emotions but he does nothing to explain what they are instead. It kind of feels like saying that the answer to an algebra problem is equal to a constant whose value is equal to the (unknown) solution: it just doesn't really progress the discussion. Sure, we may react to equivalent emotions differently in the context of fiction vs reality, but can the same not be said of differing contexts that are equally real/false? (For example, using the horror movie analogy, you would react differently to a person breaking into your house versus a spider. Both cause fear but they do not have the same response.) Psychologically, I imagine some of that comes down to us doing something interesting: the same way humans and some other animals play to practice adult skills in a safe environment, could art, then, be a form of mental play-behavior? (I should clarify that I meant "safe" for the viewer, the goldfish wouldn't call the blender thing art and the same could be said, as an example, for the "works" of Sander Cohen from the Bioshock games.)
@EHyde-ir9gb
@EHyde-ir9gb 7 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail makes me think war: what is it good for?
@planclops
@planclops 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@EHyde-ir9gb
@EHyde-ir9gb 7 жыл бұрын
planclops No! The answer is: absolutely nothing! Come on now!
@sexybeast7728
@sexybeast7728 7 жыл бұрын
this was really fun episode
@UseLessInLife
@UseLessInLife 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love more about Aesthetics please.
@alarimbaud3155
@alarimbaud3155 7 жыл бұрын
Love this series. I just started watching it a few days ago and am already, well, this far into it. But 2 episodes about Aesthetics and the role of morality in art without a single mention of Oscar Wilde? For shame! Aside from that, great work.
@jordanw6918
@jordanw6918 7 жыл бұрын
What can I do with a degree in philosophy? I'm a senior in high school and I'm applying for the colleges I want to go to, but I don't know what I want to do or major in. Im deeply interested in philosophy, theology and religion, as well as psychology and social sciences. I feel like a major in philosophy is what I want, but I'm too afraid that it won't lead me to a particular career or field, maybe a teacher or lawyer? Or some field in science or theology? I don't really care how much I'll get paid, I just want to make sure that my love for philosophy will lead me into a field and will pay off, and I won't just spend years and thousands for a souped-up hobby. Maybe I should major in psych or social work and a minor in philosophy.
@mikhailanfinson8354
@mikhailanfinson8354 7 жыл бұрын
You can pursuer carriers in law, journalism, psychology and consoling (which is what I'm doing, carries in law, teaching, etc. I had the same problem as you when I was applying for colleges but did know what I could do with a philosophy degree. It may be wise to duel major in something so your job opportunities are not cut short.
@bluesteel1389
@bluesteel1389 5 жыл бұрын
jordan w omg same. I'm in senior high too and have been so confused whether I'd pick psych or Philo but I suggest if you want to know more on apparent truth go for Psych because you can become a researcher and actually answer the questions that you ponder yourself on philosophy.
@NLperso
@NLperso 5 жыл бұрын
@@bluesteel1389 a psych B.A. is inferior to a Phil B.A. psych is only relevant if you go the PhD or psychiatry route, even the psychologist track is iffy. This is coming from a university senior who knows computer scientists and law students that did Phil in undergrad and has only one friend (rich international student) that went psych cause she isn't worried about ROI. I'm an econ major so no horse in the race, but Phil in the US is more analytical than continental, you will work with logic and probability and counting and permutations and you might even work on induction. Some high level phil classes were objectively harder than some stats classes and shared much of the same material.
@resentfusion5634
@resentfusion5634 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video glhf
@PaulLarke1980
@PaulLarke1980 3 ай бұрын
Was it just my mind that when a different direction when he talked about voluntarily walking into a movie theatre clutching a box of tissues. It just got worse when he said the emotional purge that comes with the experience feels really, really good.
@spinningninja2
@spinningninja2 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I've reached the point where he can say chom chom instead of banana and I didn't even blink
@Connieireland1
@Connieireland1 7 жыл бұрын
ba-na-na? I don't understand
@TKO_CEY
@TKO_CEY 7 жыл бұрын
how are you gonna pay naruto and i dont mean simply giving him chom choms
@saeedbaig4249
@saeedbaig4249 7 жыл бұрын
Im ASSUMING (don't quote me on this) that the money would go towards the preservation or protection of their jungle or a breeding program for his species or something.
@frankschneider6156
@frankschneider6156 7 жыл бұрын
+Kaan Ra Via his swiss bank account of course
@Rantttt87
@Rantttt87 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Peta has a vested interesting in deciding how Naruto can spend his cash.
@Stormaes
@Stormaes 7 жыл бұрын
Yea, I think that Naruto should be compensated, at least in some way like providing his family with some bananas every now and then, but PETA should be left waaaaay out of it.
@eliasoliveira6809
@eliasoliveira6809 5 жыл бұрын
@@Stormaes what is banana? I know chom choms.
@robertandersson1128
@robertandersson1128 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video, John Green and the others at _Crash Course_ Philosophy! This video has really made me thinking. I do believe art is necessary in our lives in order to be able to freely express emotion and that is art’s primary purpose but art that actually does some good and changes the world or the lives of people and/or targets the intellectual part of ourselves is to be valued a little bit higher, like this video should be valued a bit higher by most people than _PewDiePie_’s ‘KISSING MY GIRLFRIEND’ or ‘TOAD SHITS ON ME’. Thank you for making me reconsider my attitude towards art! By the way, I do think both the monkey and the photographer are to be credited for those amazing images! 50/50 man!
@melaniespecht8509
@melaniespecht8509 7 жыл бұрын
Very good Content as always! I really hope there comes more about aesthetics or art from you, or maybe you even hire a artist to make a category on your channel. Would love to learn about that :)
@callmeperseus
@callmeperseus 7 жыл бұрын
"why do we waste time shipping"
@Zerepzerreitug
@Zerepzerreitug 7 жыл бұрын
he said: "why do we invest time and energy in shipping?"
@yangwenli73
@yangwenli73 7 жыл бұрын
Naruto just wanted to become Hokage... dammit PETA!
@PatrickBoberg
@PatrickBoberg 7 жыл бұрын
Hank you continue to be awesome.
@Quickfingerhg1
@Quickfingerhg1 7 жыл бұрын
Damnit, i just love crashcourse. You guys are amazing. i appreciate all your guys video's. Love getting smarter with you all, everyday.
@Sandokan4
@Sandokan4 7 жыл бұрын
Crash course: V A P O R W A V E
@ianalvord3903
@ianalvord3903 7 жыл бұрын
Why would the cops come for making a sushi smoothie?
@ultimategamer876
@ultimategamer876 7 жыл бұрын
cruelty to animals
@Alexaflohr
@Alexaflohr 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I mean, it seems cruel to me, but blending a goldfish is not illegal.
@Rantttt87
@Rantttt87 7 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, this was in Denmark, not the US. Animal cruelty laws change depending on what country you are in. In Sweden, it's actually illegal to buy only 1 rat. You have to buy him a buddy to live with or it's considered cruel. :)
@timothym9398
@timothym9398 7 жыл бұрын
Many places have distinctions on why the animal is being killed. If it is being done for pleasure to entertainment is it a crime. If it is being done for a practical reason it is not.
@-.Ren_Ren.-
@-.Ren_Ren.- 4 жыл бұрын
What if why this feels really really good is that it renews our knowledge almost as prepare ourselves to be able to better understand and read others emotions and everything surrounding them to make decisions from there, from that which is being prepared to be a precise and as rounded as possible conclusion as to what is happening to another human on the emotional level.
@-.Ren_Ren.-
@-.Ren_Ren.- 4 жыл бұрын
What if it is strongly linked to the concept that some like to call 'emotional transport' and what i like to call Empathy
@Tiberious_Of_Elona
@Tiberious_Of_Elona 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included Harambe in this video.
@MegaKoutsou
@MegaKoutsou 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I love John Green, but I also love Aristotle.... how can I live with that?
@kikogonzales5198
@kikogonzales5198 7 жыл бұрын
gijijijijijijijijijijji Yes.
@noahg7442
@noahg7442 7 жыл бұрын
gijijijijijijijijijijji but I love Hank Green, the presenter
@elviscove
@elviscove 7 жыл бұрын
Same problem. I just assume John is being hyperbolic. Aristotle was a nice guy. Couldn't wrestle well, but nice anyways.
@wemakeasiansurveys4U
@wemakeasiansurveys4U 7 жыл бұрын
Elvis Branchini This is Hank Green. John is his brother.
@elviscove
@elviscove 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny Nguyen I know, I was reffering to the frequent attacks that John throws at Aristotle.
@gerald9962
@gerald9962 7 жыл бұрын
Knowledge
@ericvanbergen8849
@ericvanbergen8849 7 жыл бұрын
damn
@gerald9962
@gerald9962 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Vanbergen I know right
@elephantwarrior53
@elephantwarrior53 7 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant concept. You should be an artist.
@vaibhavjain3234
@vaibhavjain3234 6 жыл бұрын
love the starting music
@joseaadac
@joseaadac 6 жыл бұрын
I just this guy so much. He talks fast, throws in a bunch of other subjects (that make part of the thought line), and one should not lose track of the main idea. Thank you for being so helpful!
@koneal2000
@koneal2000 7 жыл бұрын
We invest time and energy into shipping in order to transport goods over a long distance.
@bryn5238
@bryn5238 7 жыл бұрын
"Why do we invest time and energy into shipping?" I ask myself that same question everyday. 😐
@MichaelHopcroft
@MichaelHopcroft 4 жыл бұрын
Shipping raises some of the same questions as the Slater/Naruto case does. Because when you ship, you are in a sense taking ownership of these fictional characters -- characters you had no role in creating -- and having them behave in ways you would prefer rather than those preferred by the creator. Many shippers assume that just about every character ever written is on the LGBTQ spectrum without "canon" evidence. ("Canon" in this case refers to what is present in the original artwork the shipper takes inspiration from -- for example, it is canon in Steven Universe that Pearl had been completely fixated on her leader Rose Quartz for hundreds and thousands of years, while it is speculative that Peridot and Lapis are a couple, albeit a dysfunctional one.) Other shippers take friendships and advance them into romantic or sexual relationships. While many creators pay absolutely no attention to this, knowing it does not prevent them from writing those characters the way they choose, others are offended, while still others find them food for thought. If the creator of the work does object to what you are doing, do you need to stop? Do you need to stop if future canon material contradicts your speculation? Who is the real creator of a piece of fanart or fanfiction?
@unoewho
@unoewho 7 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, when this segment started I was like "Oh great, 'Art'. Who cares?" Now that the segment is over I am far more interested. Thanks Crash Course.
@hughiehunter5753
@hughiehunter5753 Жыл бұрын
An online teacher just doing good. Thank you for your information
@hendezat7767
@hendezat7767 4 жыл бұрын
omg I love philosophy! Need to write a dissertation for BFA and all I'm drawn to is philosophy, I think I'm going for MA in philosophy!
@stargirl7769
@stargirl7769 7 жыл бұрын
i was looking through this playlist right when this was uploaded 😂😂😂
@medjed2511
@medjed2511 7 жыл бұрын
V A P O R W A V E
@TuskaDogLover
@TuskaDogLover 7 жыл бұрын
Are you calling my feelings towards all my husbandos 'quasi-emotions'? How dare you?
@revitellect3129
@revitellect3129 7 жыл бұрын
Plato's attack on Literature/Fine Arts. :D I think that was the first main topic we studied under Literary Criticism in Literature. :) Had some good points, though they weren't complete/too negative (which Aristotle later supplemented to and balanced out).
@yojasmagic
@yojasmagic 7 жыл бұрын
It should be of the pleasure of a poem itself to tell how it can. The figure a poem makes. It begins in delight and ends in wisdom. ~Robert Frost
@yaumelepire6310
@yaumelepire6310 7 жыл бұрын
How could an animal own anything and why would it get any money? What could he do with it anyway?
@TheR971
@TheR971 6 жыл бұрын
The hypocrisy of shutting down the goldfish-blender exhibition is just superb in a civilization that eats mammals.
@hayleyjo2543
@hayleyjo2543 5 жыл бұрын
for some reason i learned more from this about art theory than like um my 4 years in art school
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