Affinity, but Timeless | Much Abrew

[@VodShod]

15:30 "We didn't even draw our namesake card, our Synthesizer, and we still beat the Primeval Titan deck" *Simulacrum Synthesizer left sitting in hand*

[@ther3aper561]

Lmfao I loved he drew it, asks if he even wants to play it, and then says that. Gotta love Seth

[@holopldl]

Letting CraterHoof Behemoth through was an excellent play!

[@midn8588]

I mean, it was uncounterable

[@purplereignin]

I read this before I watched that part and thought you were being sarcastic LOL

[@SirDerpinmire]

@@midn8588 I think they meant not bouncing the craterhoof, which is the most obvious target to bounce since it prevents the most damage

[@hornifurhonky212]

Even though it was uncounterable that's our craterhoof

[@MrDeliworker]

I get what Seth was saying since he wanted Blue for rebuke, but it was funny to be see "we really need to hit an untapped land" at 30:46 then proceeds to draw one, and goes "welp we didn't"

[@tilnation14]

The bridges are all tapped lands

[@rhisccth4094]

And then he plays the land so casually while lamenting 😂

[@brushwagg7735]

Man’s a born showman.

[@bensteinhauser784]

I assume he meant he needed an untapped land to have the counter spell up. It was funny though.

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

The duel between pithing needle and necromentia is truly what magic is about

[@joshuabrown1607]

Needle on necropotence is the best.

[@crazycappie]

"if they hoof *we* win" Scratch that off my never heard sentences bingo card

[@geeeorge16x83]

Im geeeorge from the first match It was a pleasure to play against you!

[@SpitefulAZ]

So you're the titan player. 😅

[@2007Shockwave]

Hope one of these times to catch one SaffronOlive in a game. Either way watching your game currently here.

[@geeeorge16x83]

@@SpitefulAZ i ended 101 this season with titan 🤩🤩🤩

[@Ovcharka88]

you GG'd before turn 1. bm dude

[@geeeorge16x83]

@@Ovcharka88 not for bm only tried to be polite

[@vividsyntax5301]

"Puppet Tron's gonna hold back the hoofing." Amazing. 😂

[@YayapLives]

I've been running this deck for a couple weeks now. A few thoughts: I'm not sure two copies of the one ring are worth the power spike that is timeless. The deck is pretty much fully functional in historic otherwise. Instead of the three mana draw cards that aren't artifacts may I suggest an Emry, lurcker of the lochs package? Also for one-drop replacements of memnite I'd recommend either stonecoil serpent or gingerbrute: Gingerbrute can be sacrificed for life against burn and is the best for dodging blockers while equipped. Stone coil can be cast as a three drop to trigger Synth and blocks flyers and multi-colored all day and does have the trample for the equipment. Both play incredibly well with Emry. I agree that memnite is the missing link powerwise but this deck would also absolutely kill for a frogmite. Which I find quite amusing.

[@nvvv_]

That's been my thoughts but my deck also uses a mystic forge package. The deck needs a frogmite crazy bad.

[@brendancollins4817]

Hope of Ghirapur is a sweet one drop too even tho it's legendary Also a big fan of the clue land for possible card draw with all the scrying Hulking Metaporph is a decent budget choice

[@zachgray4767]

I don't get Spire of Industry here, since you only have blue spells. It's just an Island that hurts you. Could be playing Inventor's Fair + another Island instead.

[@SpitefulAZ]

It's anti Hidetsugu's Second Rite tech 😂😅

[@Tawnos_]

I hope someday Wizards prints "Shadow Sphere" that is on power level par with Shadowspear. The chaos of pronunciation confusion would be hilarious.

[@KarmicMishap]

Then they print "Shadows' Fear"

[@OmNommSnom]

Shadow's Peer

[@Enja_Near]

Shadow's Seer

[@jdworlow]

Shadow Sear Shadow's Ear Shadow's Bier

[@Tawnos_]

@@jdworlow Shad O's Beer

[@thecrazycapn]

What I've learned here is that former great Phyrexian Metamorph is still pretty great. Copy your own payoff, or copy opponent's Craterhoof, or copy opponent's The One Ring, or copy and kill opponent's Bowmaster. So good!

[@rodneymeyer4894]

Playing a historic deck in timeless is unhinged

[@juanneox]

You could have avoided a lots of headaches by casting Phyrexian Metmorph copying the bowmaster and pinging the bowmaster

[@jdworlow]

Every time Seth chooses to play his affinity bois while holding a 2nd+ Synthesizer, I just want to reach through the screen and shake him.

[@timothye.2902]

46:40 "that is the downside of putting Ornithopter in your deck, is you do draw them sometimes." had me reeling xD

[@davidwipperfurth8465]

Dude, you gotta' take a moment, count to 10. Don't just snap keep a 2 lander in an 18 land deck against a taxes deck that already taxed you out on game one.

[@zev8970]

The" ha-ha Turn into a real boy" has me laughing! 17:20

[@Rangerdp117]

Game 1 proves Craterhoof is always lethal, just not always for who you think it is.

[@affintytosquirtle]

Affinity!!! Now only if we can make the Karnstructs into Squirtles 🤔

[@tianruixiao9239]

Synthesizer is such a nutty card, I played against this kind of UW artifacts deck with the Fabrication Foundry and ThousandMoon Smithy, it got out of hand so quickly. As a former affinity player I shed a tear of happiness.

[@lumenauta]

Also, why no Gingerbrute over Inquisitive Puppet? It holds Nettlecyst much better, I'm not sure the scry is worth it over that

[@MissingFish]

Was just about to suggest this.

[@Captain_Wasabi]

I was about to say that lol! The only thing I see for the puppet is that it dodges bowmasters?

[@lumenauta]

@@Captain_Wasabi I guess the scry helps you find the synthesizer, which is key to the deck

[@Captain_Wasabi]

@@lumenauta yeah but it's a bit of a stretch I'd say

[@soonerj97]

At 38:26, Seth casts a Metamorph on The One Ring to gain protection. My question is, for copy spells like metamorph, do you get the cast trigger for whatever it is you are copying? If you Metamorphban Ulamog do you get to exile?

[@Sylvia-t1f]

So, for Ulamog no because it isn't an Ulamog while you cast it. The One Ring works because it's an ETB that then checks if you cast it (which you did cast the spell).

[@gaminggeckos4388]

Just wait till Kappa Cannoneer gets here...

[@Mark.Twain007]

"Ha Ha, We're going to turn it into a real boy"

[@noobtube2799]

18:00 It would be correct. to place the forging the anchor first because you would then draw the land for free and see only 1 fewer card while getting it 1 turn earlier

[@halfmanhalfchicken]

puppet tron was chefs kiss 🤣

[@bkweddle7599]

The amount of times I said "Why doesn't he just attack?" during the Necro deck match....Seriously Seth, attacking is also a way to win games. Sheesh

[@ian-kr8kc]

good thing to note, you can play jegantha as your companion

[@gator-li1ls]

why are playing Spire of Industry the deck is mono blue i can't see any card that can use it.

[@reyntime8735]

Because islands are boring I guess

[@JonaxII]

Force of habit from other affinity style decks, I guess.

[@lumenauta]

What's the point of Spire of Industry in a mono blue deck?

[@seanclark4071]

If I had to guess, in some older attempts at making this deck, Seth had a couple of red spells in the sideboard or something

[@lumenauta]

@@seanclark4071 Yeah, I thought the same, and was surprised when I couldn't find any

[@dmany13]

As Seth always says. " I feel like I never lose to that prime time deck" and this the theory continues

[@wudgethenumbers]

Deck seems cool, but it's also just entirely Historic-legal apart from I guess the Ring nerf which is a pet peeve of mine with Timeless content.

[@StrawMan1235]

the ring wasnt even relevant in most of these games so the nerf isnt even a big deal.

[@jeffreyjackson1739]

Your opponent at 26:00 loses the game because he doesn’t point the Bowmaster’s triggers at your face. If he had dealt 2 to you, you’d be at 9x then he could return the Coat to his hand and then put it back into play with Stoneforge, then attached the third coat to the 3/3 Army to swing for 9 unblockable

[@arcdevil]

I think its pretty well established by this point that >95% of arena players are absolutly terrible at Magic, as in, schoolyard levels of play

[@oddsketch9969]

Memnite for real. He was a staple in my ensoul artifact deck back when.

[@UndeadB3ard]

Haven’t played any Timeless yet but I absolutely love the artifact archetype. Nice games 🍻

[@IM-xg2ki]

The hardlock was beautiful to see.

[@OGNoNameNobody]

1) Oh, a new Timeless build. Seems neat. 2) [Build loses to *Show and Tell* ] 3) Oh. Nevermind, then, I guess....

[@natejablonski]

There was a way out game 3 against Show and Tell after Atraxa ETB'd. With the known Thoughtseize, it would to be play Moonsnare, take one Atraxa hit (which shouldn't be an insurmountable life swing for a Synthesizer deck), and draw a second Moonsnare to channel and tuck Atraxa, which the opp might not have been able to recast. Yeah, it requires luck or the opp to misplay, but the early scoop with (part of) a potential out in hand can be frustrating.

[@maddoxgould5564]

theoretically could a against the odds pithing needle and give the opponent a necropotence be video because that would be hilarious

[@Ganymedical]

at 3:15 you look to your right like there is something terrifiying sitting xD

[@as95ms98]

It would be interesting to find out the player numbers for Timeless. It seems like Seth has been playing a lot of different ranks ranging from platinum to mythic. I feel like that doesn't normally happen unless there isn't a big enough population to find opponents in the same rank as you. I haven't really seen this in other ranked formats. I've only ever played against a mythic ranked player while in diamond once when playing Standard, and I was playing late at night for that game.

[@andreadepolli4322]

Hey, i tried your deck and i find that the new land Fomori Vault works perfectly in the deck, pay 3 tap: discard a card look the first x of your library where x Is the number of artifacts you control for a card and put it in hand. Discard your thopter for a prototype seems fair

[@RafitoOoO]

Great affinity deck. You're only missing Arcbound Ravager and Skullclamp. 💀

[@obsydian_k]

surgical metamorph is also available for this decklist

[@joeysmith5767]

With kappa coming, i wonder if it would be worth it to splash green for beanstalk

[@Catquila]

As someone that has lots of experience against a Urza chief artificer commander deck I'm just really glad my friend has not pulled this card

[@herbertwiley]

Mirage Mirror from HOU? It has mv 3 so it will trigger Synthesizer, then for 2 mana it can copy Synthesizer for your next mv >= 3 artifact and double up the constructs. Alternatively, it can copy a construct and be another +x/+x creature. Also, Whir of Invention, the instant-speed, improvise, find an artifact with mv = x and put it onto the battlefield spell.

[@jacksmith3518]

Gingerbrute is the best 1 drop artifact creature on Arena, it has haste and for one mana becomes unblockable**, really good as a top deck if you have nettlecyst in play

[@Arcolyte13]

I've been trying to think of a Doppelgang Synthesizer brew, but I lack the institutional knowledge to put it together. Think it would probably go well in your simic crime-ageddon as an alt wincon

[@egoalter1276]

OG affinity during mirrodin bloc was the most opressive deck ever, its odd seeing nostalgia for it.

[@AndrewLawniczak]

Hey Seth! I know this is a few months old, but hoping you see this: First the deck is 100% historic format. Why play it in Timeless? Second, this was before Frogmite and Frogmyr Enforcer were in Arena. How would you change the deck based on those inclusions? Third, I've played a deck similar to this a lot lately. One thing you can do is tap the germ token with the Springleaf Drum for mana to pay for the equip cost of the nettlecyst. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[@olipod5470]

38:43 Opponent didn’t choose the right One Ring to keep no?

[@Captain_Wasabi]

Ok so it seems it doesn't hold on Timeless... but what about Historic?

[@robertlandrum]

Actually, in that last Pithing Needle game where Necropotence prevented drawing and Pithing Needle prevented the one ring from activating, the opponent would have won if he ran you out of cards, right?

[@kylersaunders6539]

great games im wondering if we can run altar of dementia as the wincon you pump out so many big threats maybe instead of attack them down you can just mill them out ?? thoughts ??

[@JacoDeltaco]

hard locking the greedy greedy Necro+ring play is the kind of Seth content I am here for

[@JoshRudis]

Seth, I'll just leave this here: Lavinia, Azorius Renegade

[@fpjrzman]

The Game 2 v. Necro turned into Seth wins by doing nothing.

[@silent_statement757]

we are getting kappa cannoneer in mh3 so hopefully that will make this a tiered deck

[@carlosvalverde9075]

So happy to see this

[@rivithewarlock]

There are ways around Show and Tell, especially in Bo3, but in BO1 it's such a menace. You either need to play a deck that can interact on the stack or somehow be faster with a crazy burn draw or something. Lay claim on the card they show and tell can be funny as hell though, so that makes it all good.

[@zackestin1368]

I love playing winota against S&T because your 7 drop steal a permanent always goes hard

[@ther3aper561]

Is it possible show and tell stays because arena is getting a free counterspell soon in MH3?

[@swisssaga4419]

what is the reason to play spire of industry over just more islands?

[@PrismaticSparx]

This deck seems mostly historic legal too. Reckon it'll be viable in that format?

[@ZerFayt]

I really want they keep one legacy+ power format in mtg arena.

[@christianbarrett3040]

There is an argument for disruption protocol instead of spell pierce in the side board, but your blue mana is a bit low

[@RLKC8]

Game 1, if they had an untapped land, they could have titaned btw

[@lucasmachadoh]

The word: Palamtir The way it sounds: plant here

[@olivermorin3303]

Mistpronunciating words is just what Seth does.

[@theduckcompany]

Honestly this is bothering me more and more about magic content producers. Like i know its not a big deal, but its sorta their job? I wish they took it a little more seriously.

[@olivermorin3303]

@@theduckcompany Fellas, is it against a content creator's job description to... *checks notes* ...be a little silly sometimes?

[@olafthemoose9413]

Opponent messed up either in game or in deckbuilding. Could've fetched bosejiu + arid archway (the desert bounceland) with their titan trigger, bounce bosejiu with the bounceland, channel to kill nettlecyst.

[@Civera89]

The HP card backs should mess up the fronts as well.

[@JonaxII]

Memnite, Shield Sphere, Phyrexian Walker.... It doesn't matter at all.

[@moonstatue9657]

LETS GO SETH WEEN SHIRRRTTTTT BOOGNISH IS RISING

[@maxwellsanger8569]

Can soneone explain why Spire of Industry is in the deck?

[@Distantone11]

generous plunderer wants to know your location

[@mrpinguimninja]

If you wanted a 1 mana artifact creature why puppet instead of gingerbrute

[@tonnenpanda]

I love Karnstructs 😂

[@MadMakem666]

I would play esperance sentinel in this deck.

[@mattsreacts]

THIS DECK is something ive been playing for weeks. you lose to mill nuts draw and any kind of pest controk

[@brucedunn4338]

Lmao chill on the inhales

[@joeallan3706]

no whirr of invention?

[@redbeardmtg5788]

Ka-Zah-Doom

[@abdo19code]

why didn't you spell pierce the counterspell?

[@frikifit]

Everytime a weirdo with a My Little Pony avatar loses on Arena, an Angel gets its wings🙌🏼

[@bensteinhauser784]

Its a cool deck but thr flop was clear from the start since it's weaker than the modern version and being played in a format that's stronger than modern.

[@egoalter1276]

Affinity got gutted by bans becore modern became a thing.

[@AkodoNoEyes]

I want Phyrexian Walker added to Arena. The 0 mana 0/3 is legit. Or ShieldSphere from Allainces.

[@AesirOdinn]

Who let Seth in the kitchen again?

[@Eldritch_Panda31]

Why no patchwork? He is like a staple for artifact decks lol

[@Jp-gl9gi]

I bet this is a standard mana base

[@romino_freex453]

bro equip the shadowspear please😂

[@olipod5470]

My gosh I didn’t think it was that bad but yeah, so many times he could’ve done it

[@JT-91]

Does seth play on mtgo anymore? Seems like all his content is timeless or standard

[@dr-rer-nat-jonathan]

maybe 18 lands should be 19 or 20?

[@egoalter1276]

18 lands is standard for aggro decks It gives you 50% chance for 3 lands until turn 4, and >99% of at least one. If you are planning to win by damage on turn 4, which you should with aggro, you want 18 lands.

[@noobtube2799]

Yess my favorite archetype (I only like moderrn affinity, pauper affinity is boring imo)

[@frantabartak2273]

kahazad-DUUUUUUUUUMMMMMM

[@Tinil0]

I believe that you are indeed not pronouncing Khazad-dûm correctly, the û is a "oo" sound IIRC. Also, please. Ar-bor-e-al. Not Ab-re-al.

[@willwithanxbox]

Give us memnite, walking ballista, arc bound ravager and mox opal please magic gods

[@LunaLasceria]

Playing an entirely* Historic-legal deck in Timeless? Weird flex but okay, I guess. [*Yes technically the two copies of The One Ring are slightly un-nerfed, but they don't really change the deck.]

[@glazed6178]

I just saw someone playing your deck! Crushed them in two turns with a gruul agro deck. Only saw the two artifact lands lol

[@dennyonthefly3237]

Phyrexian walker for zero also

[@swampybwoy]

You love inquisitive puppet 🤪

[@nintandem2119]

Synthesizer, I barely know 'er