Affordable 5K Display for Mac: ASUS ProArt 27JCB Review ($799)

[@diogoalmeidavisuals]

I have a CalDigit Element Hub and it is my favorite thunderbolt hub right now thanks to the extra USB-A ports it has over the offerings from OWC and Satechi. But it is anything but "a tinny little package" when you take into account that massive power brick

[@Rezzered]

Being a 240hz monitor user, i just can't go back to 60hz, it's a major roadblock. Otherwise that 5k clarity is juicy.

[@bren.r]

Forget 240 Hz, I just need a 5k 120 Hz glossy monitor.

[@Menalix]

Agree, I can just tolerate 90hz as minimum but 60Hz... ew

[@messicomps344]

@@bren.r idk how likely it is that your gpu can sustain 5k 120.

[@Rezzered]

@@messicomps344 RTX 2 series and up -> easy, if we are talking about the gaming then it's a different story. Still RTX 4090 with optimizations would do fine, but really depends on games. Those who have small frame pacing, basically stable 60fps will look fine on 120hz displays.

[@envynoir]

Why not a 360hz display? Your eyes will thank you.

[@garyarg]

Also, thank you so much for posting a real review that isn't just reading off a spec sheet. I really appreciate you providing actual feedback on the picture quality, both objectively and subjectively. Other reviews are just like "it's colorful", which is utterly unhelpful.

[@Bernstein1984]

Really love the content which includes backlight issues for instance. Others are just praising it like an ad! Great job!!!

[@JerrySchulze]

Much appreciated!

[@Espesia1]

Man, I don’t understand those companies… If you are making a monitor specifically for MacOS, and asking a premium price for that - why don’t you do deeper integration of your monitor with MacOS?! People choosing Apple devices because they are plug&play. And I’m sure ASUS could achieve a better integration without inflating development budget.

[@JerrySchulze]

Should replace the speaker budget with macOS software budget.

[@mattbosley3531]

But they aren't asking a premium price. For a 5k monitor this is a discount model.

[@Espesia1]

@@mattbosley3531 What planet are you on? $800 for a monitor is a premium.

[@mattbosley3531]

@@Espesia1 Not for a 5k. They're scarce and because of that the price is high.

[@Espesia1]

@@mattbosley3531 Well, in general, $800 for any monitor is a premium price.

[@seyi8206]

Would love to see a review of the BenQ PD2730, also a 5k display.

[@albreaud000]

does anyone have their hands on an actual pd2730? Can't find one anywhere. I'm curous about the longetivity of both the ASUS and BenQ. Would like to go with the one that might have the longer lifespan/track record.

[@jchi6822]

If you need pixel perfect fonts rendering on macOS without slight blur everywhere, its actually nice option. I wish they had also 23" 4K for 400~500USD.

[@TheMad0ne]

As a pro graphic designer who’s been working on 4k monitors for years finally purchased an apple studio display a week ago and let me tell you. I feel bad I missed out for so long. If you are looking for the best monitor just pull the trigger and buy the apple studio display, especially if you’re in the apple ecosystem. It just works. Wish I would’ve purchased long ago.

[@spinnetti]

Its really hard to use anything else after an Apple display even with the "Apple tax".

[@TheMad0ne]

💯

[@haysoos123]

It’s fine for what it is, and I’ve been using one at work since release. But 60Hz and the lack of HDR is disappointing for the price. They added a lot of things that IMO weren’t necessary to justify to the price but skimped on the real things that matter for a display.

[@TheMad0ne]

@@haysoos123 What do you do that you require more than 60hz? I do not game on it and my work consists of primarily static image editing and digital creation. Like I said for that? It's unmatched. Also the fact that its plug and play, no messing around with settings. One cable from my MBP to it and I'm up and running. ONLY complain is the usb c ports output very weak.

[@SergiySev]

true story

[@rewanji]

Yes 5k but the chassis still suck. Most Mac users care for design, quality materials and convenience so why no other manufacturers seem to able to provide a similar or better solution than what Apple does? We need competition on that middle/high / high segment urgently.

[@jleetj]

If they did, they would cost as much as the one from Apple or close to it and no one would buy them.

[@greg.murphy]

The Samsung, this Asus, and the upcoming BenQ supposedly have the same panel, same issues. The BenQ suppposedly has mac integration.

[@JerrySchulze]

Interesting. Where did you find that info?

[@nwylynko]

Is backlight seperate from panel? The Samsung has 600 bits while asus is only 400.

[@greg.murphy]

I thought I replied to this. displayspecifications thinks they have the same panel. Mac integration was on some BenQ webpage that I wasn't able to find again, control brightness from the keyboard.

[@greg.murphy]

The BenQ costs 50% more according to one preorder price, $1200 vs. $800 for the Asus.

[@lucashuang1980]

As an iOS app independent developer and gamer For me, the biggest advantage of this monitor is having HDMI It allows me to use one monitor for both work and gaming, making my space more organized While gaming is limited to 60Hz, it's still good - compared to using a capture card, it should theoretically provide a smoother experience for games like Elden Ring Although both the Apple Studio Display and Samsung S9 are 5K monitors, they don't have HDMI

[@NirHason]

I wish they had this in a 43 inch version. I just can’t go back to smaller monitors and I do love the ProArt display.

[@jrr2479]

Yes!! It has bugged me for years. I can't understand why all true 5k monitors are only 27 inches, 6k only 32 inches, 8k 32 inches, gaah. I want a big tall and wide monitor with good resolution. Wide only like 5k2k and dual 4k landscape is really not most peoples optimal use case, though they might not know it. More screen estate. (Eq to at least dual 27" 1440p in portrait, or why not tripple 27" 1440p portrait)

[@richardlang3460]

You said the cable management passthrough (hole in the stand) is too low because you can see the cables from the front if the display isn't set low. I see your point, but if the hole were higher up, then for people who do set it low, cables plugged into monitor back ports would point down, then need to turn sharply to go back up to reach that hole. Takes from the cable length and puts a sharper bend in the cables. You questioned why the resolution and energy star bit were on the stand base. Just guessing, maybe to advertise the resolution selling point in one more spot that might stand out if it's in a retail position (e.g.: a row of monitors at Best Buy someday)?

[@PawFromTheBroons]

As enticing as these 5k monitors are, they achieve the hard task of explaining why the Studio Display is so palatable.

[@panzer_TZ]

I have to agree. Every time one of these new 5K monitors come out, the Studio Display just looks more enticing despite it's high price tag. Unfortunately I think the fact that only Mac users have an affinity for 5K has kept the price of 5K monitors high.

[@itshadouken]

@@panzer_TZonce you go 5k you don’t go back, these monitor companies know this. Once users get a taste of 5k, 4k is done. Then someone needs to go 6k-8k, they want to maximize 4k profits as long as possible

[@chidorirasenganz]

tbh a smaller (retina sized) 4k display would work fine as well but they always make 4k displays at least 27in 😅

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

@@chidorirasenganznot for MacOS though

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@CertifiedSlamboy It would. At 2x scaling it would be the equivalent of a 1080p display. It’s the resolution of the older 21.5 4k iMacs

[@adamr4198]

Great review. I keep waiting for the price of used Studio Displays to make it worth avoiding the DIY iMac 27 conversion project. One day I will replace my Thunderbolt Display. 😅

[@steveblanchard7293]

Arrived to late in the UK, sticking with a iMac to replace my 2017 5k 27". Don't forget you will need a webcam and a sound system with your mac mini/mackbook.

[@bryans8656]

I purchased the 2K 27" ProArt a couple of years ago and it has been an excellent monitor, so I'm really tempted to get this 5K model.

[@muhammadnabeeel]

Unfortuntely, all the ProArt lineup has this bleeding and local dimmiing issues, got mine few months back and even with a lot of tweaks, you still notice these issues at some point.

[@giovannivicentin8438]

Just guyed mine now. Can't wait to use my Mac on it, and my Asus Pro art16 to 3d and render work. The ability to change between they without external gear is a great plus.

[@petripuurunen]

Thanks for honest review. At first Asus was on first shopping list but now I can leave it in the shop :)

[@ChrisPTY507]

It sucks that there aren't many 5K displays. I wonder why. The Apple Studio Display is still the best 5K monitor, and the most expensive one....

[@ziich1]

It is absolutely wild that the studio display is essentially a 27 inch iMac without the computer for the price of the full computer and years later there is essentially no competition for it.

[@ChrisPTY507]

@@ziich1 It’s just better overall than the current competitors so they get a free pass at overpricing the studio display. The build quality,the microphone, the speaker, and even the crappy webcam that Can at least come in clutch if you use it sparingly or on zoom calls and the durability itself of the monitor… all that is taken in consideration in pricing it. Maybe it’s expensive because the monitor you can use it on several MacBooks and even Mac studio or mini? Making it more future proof than an iMac?

[@JamesBond-fo6ow]

cost to build. supply vs demand.

[@robinsherman3373]

@@ziich1 I wouldn't use the word "wild." My mid summer 2017, 5K, 27-inch iMac is the best monitor I've ever had for color and shaprness. But I need a 30+ inch 5K now at a cost of $1,000 or less. Doubt it will happen soon.

[@franciscodiaz5778]

Go figure. You buy a US$ 599 M4 Mac Mini "The cheapest Mini PC for most people" and "in order to have a good display" you have to buy the cheapest Apple option, a US$ 1600 monitor, because Mac OS is not able to scale right a 4K monitor, like Windows and Lynux does, not to mention you have to buy a keyboard and mouse, to complete your Mac Mini workstation. Remember, not everyone already has all the accessories since the beginning. Then, the US$ 599 Mac Mini becomes a US$ 2488 thing, + taxes. Go figure.

[@ahmadafnan3756]

But next2 years if you want to upgrade the cost just 599

[@extra4542]

Why can’t these alternate 5K displays actually have a premium design? They all look so generic/ugly

[@crestofhonor2349]

Because that massively increases the cost and it's not something most users care about

[@Stockfish1511]

This is a monitor is for work, not display. Like nobody will buy this to have a gsming screen or to have it go with your pc. It would be waste of money if you buy this for work

[@alb.1911]

Because if you want that you have to pay the double and you already have the Samsung ViewFinity S9 and Apple display...

[@GBR9794]

EIZO the industry standard costs about 7K to 10K and it looks ugly too. But damn that schiits reliable asf for decades.

[@MattHalpain]

I've been looking at a Dell 27in 4K monitor selling for $200., new, to pair with my M2 Mac mini.

[@JerrySchulze]

If it works for you, go for it.

[@enemigodelsol]

650 for the s9 where exactly? in none of the shared links at least

[@alexkooistra]

I'm waiting for the new Benq 5k monitor that will come out beginning 2025 (no date mentioned yet)

[@robinsherman3373]

I need a 5K, 30-32 inch at less than $1,000. Does such a monitor exist?

[@Tigerex966]

I think the ips black 6k is the best monitor kvm TB dock webcam speakers pull down ports matte coating full stand for Mac. It has better non hdr contrast color resolution. Xdt has much brighter HDR performance in the 576 mini led area but has blooming and ghosting.

[@bren.r]

Huh? What monitor are you talking about? Brand? Model number?

[@Chewyness]

I don’t know what it is with having a glass screen versus a mat one but a clear glass screen like on a Oled is so much better of a viewing experience for me

[@TazBo-wd2ig]

After looking at all these monitors I got my self a Mac Studio display. It’s the best for the MacBook

[@PeterCooperUK]

I had the LG Ultrafine 5K which is also very good (though a bit old now) but the thing that grinds my gears about all these monitors is only being 27" (or, equally, ridiculous 40"+ ultrawides). That res deserves at least 29-30" especially as my eyes are getting older 😅 I ended up getting a 30" 4K display instead which is far worse on paper but better in reality.

[@mochachaiguy]

I still have my LG 5K and use their 5K2K 34” ultra wide as my main monitor. I run them both at half resolution for my 60yo eyes.

[@ruffmadman]

I feel like that issue could easily be solved by moving the monitor closer to your face.

[@LordHelmchen333]

You know that this display has a big brother? 6k at 32"

[@AryaStarky]

PPI is more important to me, it’s just super clear even viewing close.

[@PeterCooperUK]

@@mochachaiguy Hmm, the 34" might be tolerable for me actually, thanks for mentioning it. I don't want to reduce my resolution so much because I need the space, but just basically want everything the 27" 5K shows but spread over, say, 30" 😅

[@UrbanBDKNY]

I think you told me you had a video coming for proper Mac scaling. I ll be back to watch this

[@DanEmmons]

The Samsung S9 5K Viewfinity's are $599 on amazon now. I got 3 of them for the same price as one Apple display.

[@JerrySchulze]

Very cool!

[@DanEmmons]

@ oh I forgot I have all of them hooked up through the IVanky dock, as well as a 42” LG OLED c2 … and since it’s all through the dock, it’s just basically one cable to hook up all those monitors

[@huggeebear]

They’re very good. I got 2 of them.

[@longlostcoder6322]

How does it work on mac? I heard it had issues when sleeping?

[@albreaud000]

I've read loads of creepy samsung spyware you can't turn off? And features that require using the remote control?

[@squatch545]

I've owned many monitors and I've yet to have one with an external power supply. So I don't know why an internal power supply is supposed to be such a great bonus feature.

[@JerrySchulze]

Many recent monitors do not have internal power supplies. Like the viewfinity s9 as an example. Just thought I would mention.

[@LorenzoNW]

It would be really helpful if you would produce a video explaining what the individual settings do and what settings are optimal for different applications (i.e. web design, vector art, photo editing, video editing). The "manual" is pathetic. It's one page that lists a few of the menu items without explanation or how to set each of them to represent the final product as accurately as possible. Also, someone told me the HDMI port is designed specifically for video while the USB-C DisplayPort is better suited for multiple applications. Is that true?

[@MateuszGraczyk1992]

Is it true that picture is grainy because of LuxPixel ?

[@JerrySchulze]

Matte displays will have a slight grain, just how light works but removes many reflections so trade offs.

[@MateuszGraczyk1992]

@@JerrySchulze Yes i know about that, but i read that this display is very grainy, more than typical matte displays.

[@KierDarby]

Will it offer a 3840x2160 display option if the user wants 4K, or is it limited to the native 5k 😅resolution settings like the Studio Display and the LG UltraFine?

[@REcloudnest]

Can you install third party lunar app on Mac to adjust brightness of Asus monitor?

[@ruffmadman]

Personal, but maybe controversial opinion, but I like glossy displays over matte displays. I'm curious about Alogic's take on the 5K display. This Asus, Alogic's monitor, and the Samsung are most likely using the same physical panel, but I think Alogic seems to be the only one not planning on putting a matte coating on it.

[@akyhne]

In Windows, we have two volumen controls. The one in the speakers, and the one in Windows itself. So, you just turn up the volume to 80% or whatever in your monitor, and never touch it again. Then with many keyboards, there are volume control buttons, to turn up & down the Windows volume. If not, you just use the volume slider, in the task bar. Pretty simple, actually.

[@danzzmusic1]

how would you say this compares to the eve spectrum 4k glossy. I like the 5k but with a matte screen, IDK which way to go as I can get the eve/dough spectrum much cheaper.

[@JerrySchulze]

Leaving aside the whole 4k/5k, I have had some stability issues with the eve like not going to sleep, and difficulty changing inputs on multiple Dough displays. I think I would trust ASUS more. Or Samsung which is cheaper now.

[@itshadouken]

5k is a million times better at 27”

[@Dyno_k]

Thanks for your video. I don't know why it's so hard in 2024 to build several screen 5k for Mac.... they are only 2 or 3, non adapted for Mac, and without good specifications.... Hug from France :)

[@Bisley1]

Thanks for the review! I just want a 32-34“ display to use with my Mac Mini but all the options seem to be 27“ or extra expensive and very large 40“ - do you know of anything slightly larger?

[@TheDevarshiShah]

Can 2 of these be in Display Daisy chain? running one cable to laptop would light 2 displays?

[@JerrySchulze]

Nope, not thunderbolt.

[@TheDevarshiShah]

@@JerrySchulze quirks of Apple Display in half cost 😅

[@AxiA]

Would you say that the good ole LG Ultrafine 5k is still a better choice? I found one in good conditions in my city for 300$, it's an older monitor but has integrated Mac Os and I think a very solid Image quality. What do you think ?

[@JerrySchulze]

The only concern with those is the thunderbolt ports seem to break after time. But yes the pic is still great on those.

[@itshadouken]

I’ve owned 3 of the LG 5k Ultrafines and they all broke after being fixed a few different times. They ALL had thunderbolt issues, they all had issues connecting to anything using the USC-C ports. Two of my 3 had internal power supply failures due to overheating in a room that isn’t even 70 degrees. They all started getting dead pixels and I eventually took them all to the dump. Would avoid.

[@karoltarasiuk8939]

@@itshadouken how long did you have them? I got mine for 3 years now and works just fine with no issues whatsoever. Would definitely buy a second one if I could get one in Australia.

[@itshadouken]

@@karoltarasiuk8939 maybe 6mo before they broke

[@itshadouken]

@@karoltarasiuk8939 I’ve actually had 2 of the smaller ultrafines (the 21.5in 4k) for about a year w an Apple 5k as my primary (3monitors total) and no issues w any. Great little fully retina setup, actually prefer this to 2 5k’s, the space is easier to use effectively

[@Phuong-cx3pb]

What did they think abt bottom bezel? Why they don't fix it? Ughhhh.... OCD is terrifying 😢

[@tdrg_]

I just bought the Samsung ViewFinity S9.

[@garyarg]

The Samsung Viewfinity S9 also had that dimming effect as you looked toward the edges. This basically looks like a radial gradient applied in Lightroom. Imagine trying to actually apply a radial gradient to a photo...you would have no idea how bright/dim your photo was at the edges of the screen. In fact, the effect was so pronounced on the Samsung that the center of the screen was painfully bright to look at, while you had to squint to see what was in the dark corners. What is the point of selling a monitor aimed at creative professionals if the brightness is completely inaccurate? Note that the LG 27" 5k and the Apple Studio Display (matte) do not have this absurd brightness shift. I don't understand why a manufacturer cannot combine the awesome panel and backlight in the LG with the compatibility and connectivity of the Asus (and upcoming BenQ 27" 5K).

[@owendyer6583]

I have a 1440p ultra wide right now and I want to upgrade to something higher resolution. Ideally this would be a 6k 32” monitor but I can’t afford an xdr display from apple

[@JerrySchulze]

ASUS also has a 6k 32 version but not released yet.

[@owendyer6583]

@ is it basically the same as the 27” version but bigger? I was not very impressed by the backlight and panel quality

[@JerrySchulze]

Seems like it.

[@JamesBond-fo6ow]

theres also Dells 32" 6K, around 2K. Ready to retire my 2020 27 iMac... but still cant see it. Im a print designer, need the better color, and the 128 GB of ram. M4 pro 64/1tb ($2200) + Studio ($1200 on sale) is double what I paid for my iMac as a refurb.

[@ASUSUSA]

We will be offering a 6K display soon. We already annoucned it at the same that we annoucned the 5K and 8K updates. ProArt Display PA32QCV Explect release in Late Dec to Jan 2025.

[@nico4477]

@Jerry, for photo editing, would you prefer this Asus 5K, or the Benq MA series?

[@JerrySchulze]

I had a better panel in the MA than I did on this one. You might have better luck. If they both looked great, I would probably go with 5k.

[@nico4477]

@@JerrySchulze Ah you think yours was an unlucky panel then? In fact, some reviewers don't point too much finger at the non-uniformity of this panel. I guess Asus doesn't have such high quality standards. If the panel was more uniform, would you still prefer it to a larger diagonal like the Benq MA32U, for example? That 4k 32" from Benq would give me a larger screen for $200 less, sacrificing the 5k resolution, which is the thing that is torturing me 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PureGlide]

An external power supply is much easier to adapt for battery usage. Just use a correct DC-DC converter. For example to use in a campervan, without an inverter. So that's a shame. I use the Apple display at the moment, it's even worse with a built in non-removable power cord... a PITA if you want to unplug it often.

[@antonio.zanella]

Also an external power supply is easy to replace in case of failure. It happened to me.

[@alb.1911]

DAMN! Not yet available in Europe!

[@breadtoucher]

5K OLED 27"/32" would be a dream combo. Too bad we will never get something like that...

[@znatnodobre]

OLED is for entertainment, 5K is for work. You'll get fast forward to burn-in if you use OLED for work.

[@moot6794]

I'm open to non-Apple options, but something really rubbing me the wrong way about the design of this monitor.

[@SergiySev]

MonitorControl app can handle audio control on mac

[@wushuhsu]

Can I hook 2 of these up to a M4 Mac Mini? It only has 1 HDMI port.

[@JerrySchulze]

You can connect 3. 2 through thunderbolt.

[@wushuhsu]

@ I don’t see any Thunderbolt ports on the ASUS specs, only USB-C 3.2, which can’t drive 5K at 60Hz.

[@brightboxstudio]

@@wushuhsu This misunderstanding is all too common. You don’t *need* any Thunderbolt ports on the display, because the thing about Thunderbolt and USB-C is that the good implementations (like on Macs and many PCs) can also carry video protocols such as DisplayPort and HDMI. So all you need is an adapter or cable that has USB-C on one end (plug that into the Mac mini), and DisplayPort or HDMI on the other end (plug that end into one of those ports on the display), and that display should light up. Thunderbolt/USB-C don’t just carry data. They can carry data, power, video, and networking. You take advantage of that video support to add more displays to a Mac mini without needing Thunderbolt ports on the display itself. Just the right cable/adapter to make the connection. That is the same reason a hub like the Element Hub in the video can have displays plugged into it even though the hub has no video-specific ports.

[@bestt2252]

@@brightboxstudioThis was super helpful, thanks 👍

[@DerekBartlett]

Can the Caldigit Element Hub in the video handle 2 of these Asus 5K monitors connected to it? The Caldigit website says “Dual 5K 60Hz Apple Studio Display Only. (Does not support Dual LG UltraFine 5K)” but doesn’t reference this Asus 5K. Thanks.

[@DM-dq1mh]

Hi , just found your video, great you went into calibration detail, just wondering if you ever did calibration of the ASUS pro art pa279crv and if so what was your Adobe 1998 percentage result

[@juurstudio]

What about the 6k Asus ProArt PA32QCV?

[@JerrySchulze]

Not out yet.

[@cvo-ff]

What did LG do to you and why won’t you mention their 5k display?

[@JerrySchulze]

The 10 year old discontinued ultrafine?

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

Nice video, kind of unfortunate that sub90 coverage of aRGB and that worrisome deltaE of 4 in one of the colors. my suggestion, do not care too much about the deltaE average, the critical one is deltaE Max.

[@JerrySchulze]

If it makes you feel better, every monitor I test does poorly on that teal color.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

@@JerrySchulze strange. I think my Benq SW and LG OLED Pro monitors do very well in all channels. I need to re-run it in my cheap Asus PA279CRV. did you check the calibration report for this monitor? does it show a DeltaE Max better than the one you measured?

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

@@JerrySchulze thanks again. I just checked with my SpyderPro on this Asus PA279CRV. Native preset. Windows 11. I get MaxDeltaE of 1.17, and 97 percent aRGB, 98 percent P3. what preset are you using in the monitor menus? P3 or Native?

[@JerrySchulze]

Native and I did the 48 color test vs the 24 that they did at factory. Not home right now to check that report again.

[@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll]

@@JerrySchulze Thanks. happy to follow up. Any chance you have a PC to check the same? now I am puzzled if it is a Mac versus Windows

[@nsiebenmor]

When are we going to get OLED 5k or 6k monitors?

[@ChrisPTY507]

Hopefully never. You won’t want to see tons of users complaining about their expensive monitors getting burn ins.

[@CALISKAN01]

Is 2k good like 5k without same scaling issue like full hd or 4k

[@utube9487]

why not 120Hz 5K Oled?

[@JerrySchulze]

Hopefully soon with Thunderbolt 5

[@Tigerex966]

This and the 6k matte dell samdung for $1999 are really shaking up the prosumer and pro apple monitor market if you get a good sample but initial results seems hit and miss even with apple but apple has the best service and return policy.

[@Mangold108]

how many nits the samsung? 400 is too low for me.

[@valisvlog2461]

Should I go for the ASUS PA27JCV or the Samsung Viewfinity S9? I am planning to use the monitor for both macOS and Windows mainly for work and coding. The Asus is still not available in my country, but it will be next year at around 1000$ but the Samsung is, at around 800$.. What would you recommend? The panels seem to be almost the same with matte coating, and I can't see a better build quality for the Asus or more features.. Thank you in advance!

[@JerrySchulze]

Samsung for price. Just know that you will need usbc or mini DisplayPort.

[@valisvlog2461]

Thank you for your answer, yes, I only need USB-C for both Windows and Mac systems. I’ll try the Samsung and see how it is

[@jdassonval]

Was on my wishlist. After your review, nope. I'll skip. But damn it's hard to find a good 5K display that is not an apple display (expensive)

[@JerrySchulze]

What about it made you remove from wishlist?

[@danzzmusic1]

BenQ releases one soon too. It at least looks a little better than this Asus. Reports say spring 2025 which is still a long wait time lol

[@jdassonval]

@@danzzmusic1 I have an old Benq 32", happy with it but in 4k.

[@jdassonval]

@@JerrySchulze the colors, which aren't up to top-notch and especially not uniform.

[@JamesBond-fo6ow]

agreed. the backlight uniformity looked bad. Perhaps a normal user would be fine, but for designers... not ideal?

[@beauslim]

Just discovered Silo and binged everything over the last 4 days. Great show!

[@wilhelmenns791]

Does it have speakers ?

[@JerrySchulze]

Yes, but nothing worth using and changing volume is harder than It should be.

[@markshirley01]

Can't find a UK link for this monitor - I'm guessing it's new, I've been to Asus site but they don't have a buyer link either

[@akyhne]

It is brand new, as in the paint isn't dry yet.

[@mich8261]

I think I’m going to wait for the BenQ 5k display

[@TomasRamoska]

Now we have two affordable 5K options Samsung and Asus for ~$800 perfect for Mac Mini

[@janplexy]

Studio Display is the best and it is the most expensive. Those two things often go together.

[@akyhne]

The best at what? You can get better monitors, for less. But it depends on your needs.

[@janplexy]

@ can you name one better monitor for less? 5K, acurate color, 600nits…

[@akyhne]

@@janplexy It depends on your needs. Better for photography? Sure. Better for color grading? Sure. But not in 5K and not 600 nits. But they are not needed. 5K is nice, 600 nits is a total overkill. I don't know the office market (coding, office, spreadsheet), but I'm sure there are monitors on the market, that can beat the ASD in that area too.

[@janplexy]

@ there are.. somewhere.. we don’t know where.. but there are!

[@znatnodobre]

@@janplexy There is simply no competition on 5K, so that's why I went with Philips 4K 144Hz miniLED instead... 1000nits btw, 1400 in HDR

[@rickdg]

Can it be held by a vesa mount?

[@JerrySchulze]

Yes

[@Clickworker101]

That’s what I always wanted a 5k display I can use a cross platform and doesn’t look so ugly like the Samsung

[@dragon.6575]

studio display : high grade lg nano ips panel viewfinity s9 : boe panel this : auo panel

[@lukeno4143]

i bought this monitor primarily for gaming at 5K. why dont people review them for games for people like me?

[@guptadagger896]

dang i really thought this was a thunderbolt display

[@dr.mahera9284]

Bottom bezel with the adjustment keys and that Asus logo is a deal breaker..they should take a note from Dell and make a clean design

[@akyhne]

Bottom buttons are essential for professionals. Although this is a very cheap ProArt, it is still meant for professional work.

[@bunbohue369]

I am ok with 4k 32in dell for $230. If this is 8k then it's a different story.

[@joelconolly5574]

But what about for Windows 😦

[@JerrySchulze]

Scales to 200% by default and looks good.

[@Tectectech]

Put this beside the full aluminium built studio display and it becomes a shame.

[@Jimmyfly215]

love this. thanks for the video. and if anyone has other monitors to suggest for Mac i would greatly appreciate it!

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

My only problem with these monitors is the inclusion of USB-A on them. Is there any point to having a USB-A port on your monitor at all? At this point, it's a specialized connector and people can just buy a USB-C to USB-A dongle if they need it.

[@ASUSUSA]

Most devices arre not USB-C to USB-C they are A to C so it makes sense for majority of users to have A than it does C. Commonly you will find keyboard and mice ( wireless adapters ) are using A for instance. Generally native C to C is only found in high speed storage.

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

@@ASUSUSA They haven't made USB-A devices for a long while. Sure, legacy devices might be USB-A but seriously... a person buying this expensive monitor likely only has USB-C peripherals, and for that old portable hard drive that's still usb-a just buy a small dongle for it.

[@bren.r]

Imagine if manufacturers stopped giving us trash matte finishes?

[@snekbaev]

or provide both options? and charge extra for "matte" finish, hehe :)

[@akyhne]

While there are cheap måtte coatings on cheap displays, there's nothing wrong with a good matte implementations. All professional monitors, more or less, are all matte displays. And for reasons. Glossy only works in a dark environment.

[@bren.r]

@@akyhne glossy only works in a dark environment? Explain why every phone manufacturer uses a glossy display then when it's meant to be used outdoors. Matte spreads reflections, it doesn't remove them - including the light emitted from the display itself, which is objectively worse as it reduces contrast and sharpness. Using a glossy Apple Studio display and a matte LG display next to a window, it isn't even a question. The Apple Studio display handles reflections way better. Matte shows haziness from reflections off axis - physics cannot be disputed.

[@akyhne]

@bren.r Yeah, matte spreads reflections, unlike glossy that throws them back in your face. Are you saying, that if you stand in front a mirror, you don't see anything?! lol! You know that crisp, glossy, shiny effect a glossy Studio Display gives you, that Apple fans love so much. Do you know what that is?! I'll give you a hint - "mirror". Only the crisp Ness is wanted. Anything else is your own reflection and reflection of your surroundings, being added to the image from the screen lol. Try this in daytime. Sit in front of your monitor, with the computer turned. off. Look and study all the mirror reflections, from your screen carefully, for around 10 minutes. Study them closely. From then on when you turn on your computer, you'll be crying every time you use your fancy glossy, in daylight, because you just realized that everything you loved about this monitor, was a betrayal. There's good reason why no professional displays, other than color grading monitors, offers glossy. It's because those color grading guys sit in total darkness, more or less.

[@akyhne]

@@bren.r Here you go. A short list of some reference monitors. I could verify all but one, what kind of screen surface, they are using. They are all traditional soft surface, matte displays. The last two are not reference monitors, but just a selection of monitors, much better than the XDR - glossy or matte. If you think you know better than the leading industry of displays, and have anything clever to say, feel free to comment. Sony BMW-HX310 Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2018 Price: $19.999,- Sony BMW-HX3110 Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2023 Price: $39.000,- Eizo CG3146 ColorEdge Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2020 Price: $46.000,- Ikegami HQLM-3125X 31” No anti-glare surface Release year: 2019 Price: $39.995,- TVLogic LUM-310X-CI Anti-glare soft surface Release year: N/A Price: $23.400,- TVLogic LUM-310R Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2019 Price: $34.000,- Flanders Scientific FSI XMP310 Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2023 Price: $10.999,- Fanders Scientific FSI XMP550 Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2023 Price: $16.995,- SmallHD Oled 27 Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2022 Price: $9.499,- BenQ SL7502K Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2021 Price: $4.299,- Asus ProArt PA32UCG-K Anti-glare soft surface Release year: 2019 Price: $5.000,-

[@zachywacky1]

I don't understand the argument against 4k on Mac. Yes, text looks a tiny bit more blurry, as you demonstrated. But you recommend a 1440p screen, with is absolutely more blurry than any 4k display below 40 inches. Yes, 4k will scale it at a decimal scale when you set it to 1440p. But you really don't lose that much quality by doing so. Hell, they ship their MacBook Airs with decimal scales by default and I don't see anyone complaining about that. Also, you can get a 4k screen far cheaper, or at much higher refresh rates for similar prices. Hell, when 4k oled screens come out at 27 inches you can get that at what I suspect will be the same price or less than a Studio Display. Imo, that is just so much more appealing than a small increase in text clarity. (I understand the argument for the Studio Display specifically, with its high build quality, great integration with macOS, and plug-and-play nature. I think it should be $600 cheaper but that's neither here nor there)

[@hendrst1918]

My EIZO 4k 27" doesn't look blurry at all. I run at 1920 x 1080 which is an integer scaling so I have no blurring or pixilation whatsoever. Text and icons are slightly larger and I give up a bit of screen real estate but not clarity or sharpness. In fact, since I sit 32" (and not the 20" distance that Apple's retina standard is based on) away from my monitor everything looks just about right. What I really want is a 32" 6k monitor.

[@zachywacky1]

⁠​⁠@@hendrst1918 Honestly it would be great. Unfortunate that the only one in existence is $5000. It looks like there’s even an 8k monitor that’s cheaper now, and I bet those would go down in price faster. Also, I agree fully about scaling at 1080p. Personally I don’t mind losing quality slightly for more screen real estate though on my 28” monitor

[@gamersruin]

If you're accustomed to Mac prices, please know that $800 for a 5k IPS monitor at 60 Hz is overpriced.

[@JerrySchulze]

Is a Mercedes over priced compared to a Honda?

[@gamersruin]

@@JerrySchulzeThis isn’t a great metaphor, since there are limited panel manufacturers, but it actually proves my point. You’re assuming a Mercedes is the better car because of the sticker price, but brands like Mercedes and Cadillac have been producing horrendous engines for at least a decade. Automotive professionals agree that the Civic has a significantly more reliable engine. Price doesn’t equate to performance.

[@2AToday]

Jerry, your reviews of products have really become the gold standard in my opinion.

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

Sucks that this display is not a 32” :(

[@kelu7463]

That would make the UI elements in MacOS larger than designed by Apple. For 32" you would need 6k, not 5k to get the correct dimensions.

[@jonb8633]

at least you can assemble a mac rig under 2K

[@aaugusts]

Simple 5k monitor I'm waiting for... 5k MiniLED/OLED 120+hz + HDR.....That's it.

[@JerrySchulze]

Yep

[@alanschmitt9865]

It’s super annoying in a world where only Apple seems to measure screens this way, but PPI over resolution is absolutely how everything in the monitor space should be measured, IMO. I don’t know how people deal with unscaled 4k on Windows.

[@crestofhonor2349]

MacOS and Windows scaling is different.

[@snekbaev]

people scale 4k, it's just Windows can do fractional scaling and MacOS can't (anymore). My 27' 1440p with 125% DPI looks good in Windows and complete trash in MacOS. BetterDisplay helps, but fonts end up looking as being pushed out from the display and still blurry. 4K 27' on MacOS - the UI will be scaled to 1080p and will look good, but, imho, it's a bit too large for 27'.

[@alanschmitt9865]

@ I’m not saying people don’t; I have to on my work PC, too. But I can’t agree with 125% or 150% looking good. Workable, sure, but every time I go back to my Mac I almost cry; text just looks so much better at a proper integer scale.

[@snekbaev]

@@alanschmitt9865 if you compare Windows and MacOS then Windows wins in scaling department that's what I'm saying, Personally I haven't (yet) seen 5k panel connected to Windows (with 200% scaling) but that's one of my goals - to have a panel(s) usable (and connected) on both platforms if I decide to use MacOS more. So far I personally find multi-monitor support better in Windows

[@alanschmitt9865]

@ no doubt about Mac having weird multi-monitor support. Definitely been the wild west since the M chips. I have a Studio Display that I have hooked up to my Windows PC before and it’s fucking *chef’s kiss* at 5k/200% scale.

[@Phuong-cx3pb]

KUYCON G27-P !!! Forever!

[@RealSebus]

not a 16:10

[@Soundoverload]

Why do you need 5K?

[@danieldevine]

i swear for the love of god somoene make a 5k 120hz panel. This is killing me

[@Espesia1]

With current technology state - the price tag will be exorbitant. Give it about 5-7 more years.

[@dannyize]

Not enough bandwidth in thunderbolt 4 is one obstacle. A more present question is why can't other makers deliver a 5K panel as good as Apple's? Does Apple snap up the good ones, leaving others to build with left-behind rejects?

[@Espesia1]

@@dannyize 1. I believe current gen of DisplayPort allows such bandwidth 2. Probably it would cost not much less than Apple Studio display, lol.

[@danieldevine]

@@dannyize TB5 and DP2/2.1 has enough bandwidth? Specs for those have been out for over a year

[@danieldevine]

​@@Espesia1 It really isnt that hard, if you can make a 4k 144hz screen at 27 you can make a 5k 144hz at 32 from the same physical panel before slicing them up. The chips for the panel drivers maybe could be an issue but again that doesn't strike me from my limited knowledge as an insurmountable task. It's niche for sure atm, but they said that about the iPhone 4's display when it launched, then every phone went to higher res displays than even apple!

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Nice & Thanks :)

[@JerrySchulze]

Thank you too

[@owlmostdead9492]

3:40 "tiny little package" is so disingenuous while not showing the external power brick.

[@JerrySchulze]

Good point. There is a power brick so that it can provide 60w of power to computer plus power for all the ports.

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@JerrySchulze I'm not saying you did it on propose but it makes you a little untrustworthy

[@thomasquigley7040]

So they made a 5K monitor, which is perfect for a Mac, but they didn't make it Mac friendly in any way???? Pass. And I', just about to buy an M4 Mac mini. I was hoping this would be a good alternative to the Studio display, but I just can't get past all the shortcomings of the Asus.

[@snekbaev]

BenQ, afair, has some integration, maybe the upcoming in Q1 next year will have it as well (probably will)

[@ASUSUSA]

We validated it with Apple devices the only immediate items is some of the realtome control elements which most will not be making adjust to but if you find it critical you can use open source software like Monitor Control or use the OSD physical controls. The audio can also easily be done by setting max volume if you really want to use the speakers and then just adjust volume in the OS. We are evaluting a version of our Display Widget Center software for OSX. We hope to provide an update in early 2025 in this respect.

[@F34RTEHR34PER]

Lost me at 60Hz. :(