Affordable Wheel Fitment Tool! Perfect Fitment Guide!

[@EmbraceMaking]

Just an update on things - I still sell this tool but with various updates and new options: embracemaking.com/products/wheel-fitment-tool-cars-and-trucks I also want to note that if you ever have any issues with the tool please reach out to me on my website and I would be happy to get you new parts / custom parts / warranty parts / etc. Thanks!

[@grantstanyer3887]

Impressive tool. Makes Wheel clearance confirmation so much easier. Thanks

[@JordanDunning]

Just got mine today. Fantastic tool!

[@EmbraceMaking]

Thanks Jordan, glad you like it!

[@TooBrokeToWheel]

Just placed my order. Hope it gets me killer fitment for my '95 Lexus SC400. I've looked thru the gallery at fitment industries at other SC's with the staggered 18" setup I want but I'd rather have this tool for dialing in with a higher level of certainty. Looking forward to it's arrival.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Thank you for your order, will get it out the door to you asap!

[@burntxtoastt]

Very cool and a smart design

[@EmbraceMaking]

Thank you so much!

[@shkeepr]

Looks very nice! One question, how do I take into account wheel camber (and maybe toe) while measuring with this?

[@EmbraceMaking]

Good question! When you install the wheel tool, you should load your suspension. If you put your floor jack under your control arm and lower your vehicle down to it's regular ride height from the ground the suspension should be very close to where it would be if it had the wheel installed. Therefore your camber and toe should be pretty accurate in that position and you test your clearance.

[@davidheller4762]

awesome. is it possible to buy the stl file to print it on my own?

[@joem6859]

NIce job on design and video. What's a good way to figure out ride height under load to get all the geometries in correct position?

[@TheFatPandaIAm]

Jack up the hub that you’re working on until it’s just starting to lift the car off the axle stands (or whatever is supporting your car).

[@joem6859]

@@TheFatPandaIAm hey, thanks for responding, big 'duh' on me... lol

[@cuznlucky]

Is this only in plastic or is there a metal version, being an automotive tool would be much more durable in metal. If not and parts get broken how long will you replace for?

[@sparlin88]

Also will it fir a 4 1/2 " bolt pattern ? Thanks

[@EmbraceMaking]

Yes it will, I'm assuming 5 bolt x 4.5" ?

[@sparlin88]

@@EmbraceMaking Tes it is . Thanks for the reply . How and where do I order one ?

[@EmbraceMaking]

There are two different models. One for cars that has tire pieces that are smaller and appropriate for car tires. And another for trucks that has very large tire simulator pieces meant for flotation (inch) size tires. The truck one was developed after the making of this video so it does not appear in the video, but all of the other parts are the same you just have larger tire pieces that can be adjusted in inch increments for large mud/offroad tires. For the one for cars: Here: via-autoworks.my-online.store/Wheel_Fitment_Tool/p6002281_19291782.aspxThank Or here: www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1107205149/wheel-fitment-tool-cars-general?click_key=3e8c5ad101f789324f8121ee7d0e17d741b45b9d%3A1107205149&click_sum=1ab14dd6&ref=shop_home_feat_2&sts=1 If you're looking for the one for trucks for flotation tire sizes: Here: via-autoworks.my-online.store/Wheel_Fitment_Tool_(TRUCKS)/p6002281_21611562.aspx Or here: www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1207969027/wheel-fitment-tool-trucks?click_key=f1f9828a9aec2d616f5e128bedf6523dc74b8378%3A1207969027&click_sum=bde0b10b&ref=shop_home_active_1&crt=1&sts=1 If you purchase from my website it is slightly less expensive than purchasing from Etsy... I had to raise the price on Etsy because of the % cut they take for themselves. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!

[@Hiwayman-zj1sh]

Sorry if I missed it mentioned in video but will this tool allow you to determine what thickness spacer to use if necessary?

[@EmbraceMaking]

You can use the tool to determine that... I didn't cover it in the video... but... if you just set the tool up with your current wheel measurements and then mark that offset location on the tool you know your starting point. Then, you can move the offset out the amount you want spaced, ex: 10mm and then check for clearance.

[@robkamstra]

Do you have a tool to measure a Drag Car tire. The rim is 15 inch but the tire is 30-33 inch tall

[@robkamstra]

Looks like the truck tool almost works

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Rob, The truck version can be made to work in this case in my opinion. What you can do is put the tool in the 16" diameter position and then position the tire pieces to 33" because that is the overall height of the wheel / tire combination. Since the wheel portion is intended to represent the outside of the wheel and not the inside, technically all that matters in this case is the width/face of where the lip of the wheel sits (offset). So really what you're doing in this case is just looking at the overall tire diameter + offset to see if it fits inside of your wheel well. This should be fine for what it is you're attempting to do from what I can tell. Let me know your thoughts.

[@ronaldbaradziej9274]

This is great for measuring wheel size, even taking tire height into consideration but not section width. A 15×10" rim can put say a 295/50r15 tire on it. Which has a section width of 11.61" or you can put a 305/50r15 tire on it that has a section width of 12" on it. This would not take that into account to see what size wheel tire combo would fit. Only what size wheel would fit.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Ronald, yes that is correct. Unfortunately even tires of the same size across different brands often vary. Some manufacturers run wider with rim "protection" features that stick out, and some sidewalls bulge depending on the width of wheel you are putting them on. This tool is meant to simulate the wheel and not the tire. Although I include tire pieces for *some* idea of where your tire might be, this is just to help you visualize. However, the accuracy of the wheel tool gives you the exact location of your wheel and therefore you can determine if the wheels will work before purchasing them, and then have a better idea of where your tire will sit. It is very difficult, if not impossible to predict for certain exactly how a tire from different brands will sit without mounting it to the wheel. This is a limitation will all wheel fitment tools that I've seen on the internet.

[@ronaldbaradziej9274]

@@EmbraceMaking yeah, I've seen two different places give two different section widths for the same brand and size tires. My current BF Goodrich 255/60r15 tires everywhere says the section width is 10.06" when they're actually 10.5" mounted to an 8" wheel. Makes it very difficult to figure out which tires will actually fit a car. This tool for what it does, is the best one I've seen so far.

[@ronaldbaradziej9274]

I think I know how to use this tool and at least be close on the tire bulge. (Section width) as long as the specs of the tires aren't too far off. So I think I'm going to get this. Looks much better than that thing Jegs and Summit are selling.

[@RDAUGIRD]

Have you considered making the bolt pattern part a full circle, and using three of the wheel diameter and width/offset parts, so you could actually put a tire on there? Not mush more R&D would be involved. I'd buy one at double the cost.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Richard, It's not a bad idea, I could whip something up and get it out to you. Let me see if I can find more info about the profile around the tire bead area so a tire could seat properly within the tool... I'll get back to you shortly...

[@RDAUGIRD]

@@EmbraceMaking I have been doing CAD for over 30 years. Maybe I can draw something up in 3D and have you print it for me. I have a 3D printer I bought years ago and set up but have never printed anything. Lazy me...

[@tommcqueen2840]

Can you supply a wider wheel width that 12"

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Tom, yes I have supplied a tool up to 13" for someone else. If you go through the order process on the website, just put a note with the order for a 13" width bar and I will supply it at no extra cost. Thanks!

[@sparlin88]

How do you find the Backspace ?

[@EmbraceMaking]

Yes you can measure / calculate backspacing with this tool because it can do offset. They are not the same, but related... Here is a good explanation of offset vs. backspacing: www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Wheel_Backspace/tech_faq If you send me a message/email on any of my websites I can send you a diagram of the tool that makes the explanation easier but... You would just measure between the back part of the tool that represents the back face of the wheel, and the face of the tool that mounts to your wheel hub. Let me know if that helps, otherwise email me / message me on any of my websites and I will provide you with a diagram. Thanks!

[@Pudgesmancave]

What if the wheel is tucked up inside my fender like on the rear of my lowered 55 chevy? This tool wouldn't work because part of the tool extends past the diameter of the wheel/tire you are simulating.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Good observation! If you're running a really aggressive tuck then you still have a few options. You can cut the wheel width beam to the desired length so nothing is sticking out (and you know you don't want to go with wider wheels). Or you can order a beam with a specific width (I have customized parts for others as well). The nice thing about this is that they are 3D printed parts so they are easy to cut and modify and if you already bought the tool I don't gouge people for replacement parts. Keep in mind that in your situation I would imagine the tire is going to be even more of a limiting factor than the wheel (in some respects) because it will be completely tucked. It is very difficult to accurately model a tire because of all of the variances between manufacturers despite being listed as a standard size.

[@URGREG99]

@@EmbraceMaking In regards to the wheel width and offset bar extending past the wheel bead: why not have the rear wheel bead fixed permanently to a square tube that the front wheel bead can slide in & out of to create the rim width and the square tube can also have an outside groove so the offset can slide and be established. This way there won't be an overhang past the rim beads. Had a similar idea I was working on in creating my own tool, just haven't had the time to put it all together, so I bought yours!

[@EmbraceMaking]

@@URGREG99 Thanks Greg! (and thanks for your order, working on that now). So if I understand you correctly, you are suggesting something like a telescoping beam as opposed to a fixed beam?

[@URGREG99]

Exactly! The fixed length will dictate the maximum width and you can sell them in different lengths to accommodate a wider range if rim widths. A 5" fixed length would basically have a max rim width of 9", would need something remaining of the telescoping bar to lock it down. You can also reverse install the fixed section to figure (+) & (-) offset

[@TravisFabel]

So I I'm having problems figuring out exactly how much wheel I can fit in my car, and I was about to design a tool to measure this, using my 3D printer... But it appears you already did that lol Will you be putting any of these files online? Also have you considered using all thread to simulate the tire offset? So you just have one set tire with that you could adjust with the plastic pieces, and then screw the all thread bolt in and out to move the offset back and forth until you find out what fits

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Travis, you can find the link to my tool here: via-autoworks.my-online.store/Wheel_Fitment_Tool/p6002281_19291782.aspx I have not considered using a thread to simulate the tire offset although it sounds interesting. I tried to keep the entire tool as easy to print and manufacture as possible with minimal other hardware required. Let me know if you're interested in picking up a tool!

[@ExtraFungus]

Are those lebaron brakes?

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi Josh, this is the "Lebaron" brake swap for the Fiero, which uses Lebaron rotors and Cadillac calipers. In the front I switched to C5 Corvette 13" brakes.

[@ExtraFungus]

@@EmbraceMaking does your e-brake work? I'd like a working e-brake but don't want to run calipers upside down.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Currently it does not work, but at some point I had the cables hooked up. As you stated, with this brake swap the calipers have to be run upside down unfortunately (for the ebrake to work)

[@ExtraFungus]

@@EmbraceMaking how hard do you think it would be to machine a new spot for a bleeder so you could bleed without taking them off.

[@ExtraFungus]

@@EmbraceMaking I found the answer, they make inserts for ntp threads that would allow you to drill and tap threads if you could find a suitable place to add a bleeder. I'm not familiar enough with the Cadillac rears to know if that's even possible.

[@daltonrhodes2202]

How can I purchase this? I tried on the website last night but when I finally click order it doesn't do anything.

[@EmbraceMaking]

It should work, very odd. You can email me directly [e-mail] and let me know what options you want. Thanks!

[@daltonrhodes2202]

@@EmbraceMaking thank you Ill send one over shortly!

[@THEibejustjoe]

Is there a way to purchase the file for the 3d print from you so I can get it printed locally so I don't have to wait on shipping and import fees. If this is possible this would be great for international customers especially with COVID

[@EmbraceMaking]

Unfortunately I only sell the finished product and not the files... shipping is only a few days, probably the same amount of lead time if you had a local print shop make a set for you and import fees, well that depends on where you live. I'm in Canada so if you're in Canada it will be zero. If you're in the US then also great news, you have an import limit of several hundred dollars before being taxed on your purchases from what I understand so you will be under the threshold for import charges. Other countries I am not sure though. I try and make all of my designs free but I decided to monetize this one to help pay for some of the things around my shop. Hope you understand. Thanks!

[@THEibejustjoe]

@@EmbraceMaking yeah I'm in the UK and I have entered 2 different address just to make sure and your website does not offer shipping I believe this is due to covid restrictions on our end and a lot of companies not shipping to the UK at the moment

[@johnm1843]

So to be clear it does not measure backspace?

[@EmbraceMaking]

Hi John, although it does not explicitly show the backspace measurement on the tool, you have all of the information you need to calculate it. Backspace is measured from the mounting face to the inside lip of the wheel, therefore you can take the overall wheel width, divide by 2, then in the case of positive offset add your offset, and in the case of negative offset, subtract it. Keep in mind that the wheel width is measured from the tire bead surface and so there will likely be a few extra mm added to the actual backspace measurement depending on the wheel lip design. From my experience, manufacturers of wheels use offset far more frequently than backspacing in the specs, but like I said, you can still use the tool to find the backspacing. Thanks!

[@johnm1843]

@@EmbraceMaking I really like your tool but I’m not comfortable with your response and will go in a different direction. Thank you for the quick response . Perhaps another video showing how to calculate BS would help

[@lonewolfupholstery4424]

How can I adjust the tool to check the fitment of a 15 or 16 or even a 17" wheel on the front wheel when the bottom of the height adjustment section hangs lower than the wheel hub. Even pulling off the wheel bearing dust cap doesn't help. You would have had the same experience in your video if you tried to measure for a 15 or 16' wheel instead of the 19" you decided to demo. Aside from cutting the lower adjustments off (ruining the tool for the larger wheel sizes) or making spacers and recalculating all the backspace and offset readings, I see no solution. I can't be the first person to have this fitment issue.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Yep this occasionally happens on vehicles where the axle nut or center bore sticks out farther than the tool. It's hit or miss depending on the design of the car. In this case I advise to cut the tool and contact me for replacement arms (which I offer free for customers who have this problem). Head on over to my website and use the contact page. Send me your order number and I'll take care of you. Thanks!

[@lonewolfupholstery4424]

@@EmbraceMaking Sounds good. I'll send you the info.

[@irablankenship8423]

Sooo.. when i have it set for a 15" wheel the main arm interferes with the spindle nut. Id have to cut it off to ise it.. so then it is now a useless tool.. seems like i wasted my money.

[@EmbraceMaking]

Nope, not to worry. It's hard to design around every different type of car with the various obstacles. If your axle nut or grease cap gets in the way and you have to clearance the diameter arm I send people extras. All you have to do is message me with your order number. Best place to do that is my website here: embracemaking.com/pages/contact

[@grverner3265]

So disappointed with this tool. Bought it and the cheap plastic parts warped rendering it useless. All I have now is 3 pieces of warped plastic and out 100 bucks Tool will work but really low end materials so not a long term keeper I never did get my wheel measured as the tool warped before I had a chance to get it all set up ... :(

[@EmbraceMaking]

Saw your email come through, the parts shouldn't warp like that and I'd be happy to replace them for you! Hope you got my response by email, thanks!

[@grverner3265]

@@EmbraceMaking thank you for responding back to me... did not expect that... I did reply in the email thank you again for standing behind your product!!

[@EmbraceMaking]

No problem, for anyone else reading this, if you ever have any issues I will definitely get you sorted out with replacement parts, custom parts etc. Just reach out to me. Thanks!

[@grverner3265]

Quick update on the customer service. I already knew the tool works but Chris was truly professional and went beyond the bar to ensure I was a satisfied customer. He sent me an upgraded new kit while keeping me updated throughout the process. Knowing how he handled my order alone warrants me to buy this product. In today's world customer service is hard to find… Chris was top of the class!

[@volksbugly]

110$ with no hardware and have to tap the threads. So basically just some plastic parts. That seems to expensive. mcmaster you can buy in bulk. If you include hardware and tap the holes I'll buy one.

[@EmbraceMaking]

The price considers the development time etc. There aren't too many things you can purchase where the price is solely based on raw material cost and no development / processing / etc gets factored in. The reason I don't typically include hardware is because I'm in Canada... so McMaster doesn't ship here (unless you are a large business with a business account) and we get royally screwed on taxes / cost of everything. So it actually saves US customers money not to buy hardware from me and then also make the package weigh more and pay more to ship nuts and bolts that you can commonly find at your local hardware store in the US for a few cents. That being said, if you want go this route let me know and I can tap the holes and send you nuts and bolts. It just doesn't make sense for me to do it for everyone because of the associated local costs + shipping.

[@volksbugly]

@@EmbraceMaking that makes sense. I'll hit you up. Thanks!

[@EmbraceMaking]

Thanks, looking forward to hearing from you

[@volksbugly]

@@EmbraceMaking I went ahead and just ordered without the bolts and nuts. I'm actually into 3d printing and I have a good stash of M bolts. I'm working on upgrading my printer to eventually be able to do PEKK, PEAK. I have some things I want to develop for the Air Cooled VW Beetle. :D

[@EmbraceMaking]

@@volksbugly Thanks! I'll pack it up right now for you. What printer do you currently have?