African Diaspora Wars(?) - Being Black Emory

Our third topic discusses the fracturing of the African Diaspora at Emory and in a broader American, African, Caribbean, and Latinx context. This topic, however, is not new by any means and has a range of nuance. From xenophobia (making fun of accents) to African superiority (identifying as continental Africans, not Black), our panelists truly leave no stone unturned.
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[@meccadivine365]

The ADOS students were on point✊🏾✊🏾... Very proud of you!

[@martinnorwood5568]

I agree Mecca they did a splendid job...

[@joejulian617]

I actually see nothing to be proud of.

[@user-ep7fu1rv7r]

@@joejulian617 why?

[@dimbwemazala8978]

You do not get it do you? Africa does not need America.

[@beyourself2444]

I don’t think that anybody should have any feeling towards ADOS for having their own group. As a Caribbean person, I don’t want to be grouped with Latins because I’m anglophone West Indian and we have our particular culture.

[@majilyric]

The Blue dress girl is so arrogant. She is defending a man who made it clear that he wasn’t Black[-American] and instead African and thus that’s why he didn’t care about the n-word being used which has historically been used against Black-Americans specifically. She literally turned the conversation into a matter of shade color. We know what he meant, he meant NOT Black-American.

[@sholaking5027]

What makes you think the lady in the blue dress is arrogant? She's just expressing her opinions. Just because they are didn't to yours does not make her arrogant.

[@belizesuperstar]

​@sholaking5027 she has no decorum, she over-talks everyone, dominates the conversation, while demanding to finish her point. Let's not talk about being loud and slapping her leg and clapping while making her point. She needs to take so classes on bettering/developing her communication skills

[@TheJosiahrosette]

I’m proud of the ADOS for holding it down and pushing the line. #ADOS strong

[@Cleopatra12ification]

Yes and Yes #ADOS is strong

[@TheHarshestTruth]

​@@Cleopatra12ificationwhat happened to ADOS, is it still a thing?

[@Universityofuncommonsense]

The light skin sister held it down right here 22:50 with the "Can you let me finish" 🙌🏾

[@Davencie]

Yeah she was talkin her shit, proud of her the most❤

[@xPROGNOSISx]

As a Muslim Senegalese immigrant raised since 3yrs old in the states, I’m frustrated with the Ghanaian immigrant sister in the blue not having the humility needed to have this conversation. This is the issue. We need to listen more and direct less when we’re speaking with black Americans. We DO HAVE PRIVILEGE AS AFRICANS. ITS JUST THE TRUTH. Stop it. Listen and learn. It’s only right.

[@ayo9703]

Yup. Ghana chic needs to chill. Her vibe is very agrresive.

[@staytruealways207]

What’s the “privileges” please name them

[@tonjasinclair3743]

@@staytruealways207the biggest one, knowing which African country your family comes from

[@Tmac_305]

​@@staytruealways207 Coming to a country where you are put ahead and given more opportunity than the people that fought for your right to be here

[@staytruealways207]

@@Tmac_305 stop giving vague answers tell me exactly how we get “put ahead”

[@sweetjr25]

Thank God for ADOS

[@Cleopatra12ification]

Amen

[@tecumseh4095]

You are an African Descendants! Not American

[@margerymelvin1621]

So proud of these Black American students for holding their own against the Black immigrant students.

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe They are...and we don’t believe in the boogeyman.

[@knuke9596]

@Winx Believe I think the issue is for a long time the respect only went one way. Black Americans always believed in Pan Africanism and always looked to and revered the continent. But after coming into contact with folks from the continent and other parts of the Diaspora we learned that they believe many anti Black American tropes and many feel superior to us (always with backhanded comments like us African/Caribs value education etc like us Black Americans don't!!). You come to our country and know you are a different ethnic group (nothing wrong with that) and yall make sure yall make a distinction between yall and us ADOS blacks but when ADOS blacks point this out (for the purpose of things owed to us from our government) all of a sudden yall scream "but we all black", "yall are being divisive". Yall get to have it both ways while American Blacks don't.

[@knuke9596]

@Winx Believe No not every single black immigrant has acted this way towards me. But the backhanded comments thing is real (sometimes it can be unintentional but the result is the same). I am not pumping anti-African hate. Read my comment, what did I say that was hateful?? I was just trying to illustrate how some of these misunderstandings can happen and also how the non-ADOS blacks can self segregate and self-identify (no one has a problem with it) but when we start to identify now the Diaspora wants to call us divisive.

[@jasminepearls1047]

@Winx Believe Some of you are getting in positions of power and either exploiting black Americans or only doing for your group. Or a lot of you are ignorant to the issues and are in put in positions to speak for black Americans which is dangerous.

[@jasminepearls1047]

@Winx Believe Chimamada Adichie herself has said that black immigrants talk terribly about black Americans and the KZbin panel the Grapevine constantly displays the contempt they have for black Americans nobody is making this up.

[@majilyric]

Notice how the Nigerian at 33:32 said he took the question as Black-Americans having access to African culture... as if Africans are a monolith and it is the Black-Americans that should possibly be specifically excluded... notice the Sudanese girl made that distinction between West African and Sudanese though.

[@Wideout4]

Bingo

[@Universityofuncommonsense]

26:29 Immigrants don't define blackness. That's what y'all don't understand. You don't get to speak on or have authority on blackness in a place where you are a GUEST.

[@saints0931]

Facts

[@Wideout4]

What love most is that the ADOS/FBA students in this video are more protective of their cultures Vs others who may be from more immigrant heavy populated places like NYC because it displays just how vast and different the Black American culture is itself.

[@jessicaj8083]

The ADOS girl with long braids perfectly executed and explained everything I feel as if relates to being an American descendants of chattel slavery. She hit the nail on the head when she said how our culture is not only dultited by viewed as less than. And how studies show black immigrants are systematically given more opportunities. Good job

[@carolync9408]

Exactly.

[@homoeconomicus5711]

Can you give an example of one of the studies that show black immigrants are systematically given more opportunities?

[@tecumseh4095]

“American descendants”?? Your descendants are West Africans!

[@dmac5808]

The blacks in America influence in American and around the world are so strong , if we start wearing the color Orange from head to toe in a few weeks the rest of the young kids around the world will follow. We tell the world what is cool or not. From China, Japan, Europe to Africa, we tell you how, what, and when to dress , speak, dance, and Grove like us.

[@mam9475]

When Nigerians in America use the word “Akata” they are not referring Carribean immigrants even-though they are are not straight from the continent as well. Everyone is tribal except Black Americans. We are descendants of American chattel slavery and we don’t have to care if other ppl don’t like that. Black immigrants are very tribal but it’s a problem if it’s another way around 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@TheDarkAdventure]

They are still trying to hide the fact that they sold us here in the first place. For bongos and daishikis

[@bettergetbusy392]

It means cottonpicker! Godfrey and Jackianna already exposed this

[@Kalagenesis]

I’m a proud Akata lol 😂

[@crepe80]

@@bettergetbusy392 it means foreigner-

[@elijahlyrics3790]

@@TheDarkAdventure those who were sold also sold people before capture

[@sleepyccs]

ADOS Rising 👍 I'm proud of these four ADOS Emory students.

[@tecumseh4095]

You are an African Descendants! Not American

[@rnellow7867]

Love how calm and collected brittany was the whole time.

[@kibe5144]

Chick in the blue dress with the White rim glasses needs a Snickers 😒

[@SenseiAishitemasu]

Kierra Benson LMFAO hangry

[@majilyric]

@@SenseiAishitemasu omg is their a vid coming up about this?!!.... Then again, I know you tired of explaining it. lol.

[@perfectbeat]

lol 😄

[@MrSynhair]

WOAH!!! The PROUD Black Americans ATE!!!! Go to my people!! The heavy one in the blue was a disgrace

[@alphacharm]

You’re heavy too…

[@MrSynhair]

@@alphacharm why I even respond to y’all I have no idea. It was a description sir. Triggered thot. 🙄

[@Ray-fw9nc]

I don't see how she's a disgrace. She's expressing her beautiful black self, according to her own black experiences. Ain nothin wrong with that.

[@jubernardi23]

@@Ray-fw9ncshe is not beautiful because she is very big and rude…e

[@amarasvision]

The most important important message in this video begins just around 34:50 all haill to the young sister telling it exactly how it is here in America when it comes to our precious culture which is literally American culture.

[@carolync9408]

Black America knows our blackness and we are good with it. Thankful you found your blackness through African Americans.

[@jayjones251]

Right. Everybody is black now

[@MissMeMe343]

Good video. I appreciate the black Americans who held their own. We absolutely should be distinguished from black immigrants. We are the only group who didn't come here willingly for a better life. We built this country for free and our sacrifices are the reason all immigrants can come here and live freely. Whatever we name our ethnicity is of nobody else's concern. And to the guy who said we're "clout chasing" by wearing dashiki's cuz its cool. We're the ones who made it cool going back to the 60s.

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe As a Jamaican American...why not be just Jamaican...in Jamaica?

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe I know what you said. I said(go be a Jamaican in Jamaica)

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe Sadly..you are able to blend into America....because of my ancestors. Yours cowardly ran, and then came here AFTER we marched, got beat, and got killed. You are culture vultures and have leached & benefited off the ADOS struggle.

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe We’ll address the (white Man) After we deal with the ADOS imposters.

[@MissMeMe343]

@Winx Believe That's good. I feel the same so shouldn't be no problems 🤷‍♀️

[@TheGreatOne93]

Glad to be a Foundational Black American

[@tecumseh4095]

Foundational Black African!

[@QLivin]

​@@tecumseh4095The trailer park is that way

[@gregwilson9967]

Some Africans are ignorant about poverty in the United States.

[@elijahlyrics3790]

We're not, we just know it's incomparable.

[@mrblack8272]

@@elijahlyrics3790well that means yall got a continent of ppl who can’t feed and properly take care of themselves. Probably should worry about that and get off our nuts

[@Ray-fw9nc]

That Ghanaian girl was 💯 on point with the poverty comparison. And y'all know it.😊

[@whyaminotoriginal]

​@@elijahlyrics3790then your indeed very ignorant

[@saints0931]

@@whyaminotoriginalfacts

[@roberttownson4776]

ADOS IS ALL ADOS HAVE

[@Cleopatra12ification]

Not true develop #allies

[@bluesneakers]

No, thanks.

[@tecumseh4095]

You are an African Descendants! Not American

[@rheem5794]

​​@@Cleopatra12ificationWhat allies? We have none. Stop pretending we do. We're all we got. You even have Africans who claim to be down with us speaking against our causes like reparations.

[@SenseiAishitemasu]

They use our lingo meanwhile they don’t even respect us, you have to laugh

[@Jay-qe7be]

They stay talking like us, dressing like us, stealing our mannerisms and colloquialisms while attempting to check us. You have got to laugh at the lack of self awareness.

[@montevarrick]

Homegirl in the head wrap didn’t even define what dudes “definition of Blackness” was even sposed to be.

[@fastpaced4861]

kinda creepy.

[@fastpaced4861]

@Razia Conteh stop acting stupid. do you know who elvis pressley is? that is what we are talking about, and that is what these immigrants are doing.

[@jojoco9840]

@@Jay-qe7be “stealing your mannerisms”😂😂😂😂wtf does that even mean

[@Ismail-ie5gi]

This entire discussion supports the need for distinction. We’re not the same and that’s okay. I applaud these men and women for their courage to have the conversation. Black Americans, be unapologetically proud of who you are. In the same way other members of the diaspora are and should be. Build your individual coalitions within the diaspora and live life. It’s too short.

[@megamonke2195]

I agree, you’re 100% correct man. live by this every day. When it’s all said and done, all we can do is be the best version of ourselves and remember to give back to our respective communities in whatever way we can. All this static and BS that’s happening is not going to go away, so just focus on what you can do for yourself, your family, and your community. Because once that casket closes none of this matters, except what you left behind.

[@mam9475]

The people on this panel don’t think ADOS have a culture lol. The Nigerian guy uses AAVE “clout chasing” to talk address black Americans.

[@0m09ja]

Sometimes I think that it’s Black Americans who don’t believe they have a culture. I, a Nigerian-American, have often found myself in the position of defending Black American culture TO Black Americans! There are many people that are part of this amazing culture who don’t believe that they have a culture. It’s wild.

[@Jay-qe7be]

@Winx Believe the same nigerians who call ADOS people 'akata'? They are the ring leaders as proven by the nigerian on the panel who felt the need to police ADOS wearing dashiki's when he's a member of an ADOS greek letter organization.

[@Jay-qe7be]

@Winx Believe Nigerians are not needed to speak up for me, I'm sure other ADOS feel the same. We are more than able to speak for ourselves. We all know this only true in your mind though as majority of the time it is nigerians who are leading the diaspora in attacking ADOS so please.

[@Jay-qe7be]

@Winx Believe Akata is an ethnic slur and it does not mean black panther. Black panthers aren't even found in africa for it to be a word in any of their languages. You are on here lying your ass off for no reason.

[@jasminepearls1047]

@@0m09ja There is truth to that lol

[@rinlashea1414]

When African Americans wear Africa cultured stuff it’s not to “ clout chasing” smh our ancestors were inslaved, raped, and split up, we don’t even know where we come from we just know that we are Africa decent so it’s kinda just an attempt to feel closer to our roots

[@michaelegharevba2231]

I completely agree with you as a Nigerian. In fact it actually makes me happy to see AAs connecting with their roots. I think some Africans are just angry that what they got bullied for is only appreciated when it’s cool. Me personally I’m not going to hold someone accountable for what they said when they were younger as long as they’ve grown and they don’t think like that. At the end of the day we’re all black ✊🏾

[@dugebuwembo]

A lot of African cultured stuff isn't even African. Look up the history of the Dutch Wax.

[@Ray-fw9nc]

​@@michaelegharevba2231💯

[@JamesWhite-so3kk]

Africans don't know where they come from it been colonized so many times you are from American sis Fba allday

[@jmkworl1310]

Chileeee they came here on this land with pre-dispositions PERIOD

[@DreamLilli09]

That young lady in the blue dress was getting on my nerves but love the ADOS students super proud of you all. Trust it gets worst in the work environment.

[@richlandcountyblackcollect7882]

Stacy Lurry I'm glad they have her approval to have their own group. Seriously we have to get the guts to tell ppl to just not talk to us about certain things.

[@JustCallMeJaph]

6:29 "We have values that are very...traditional..." as if #ADOS people don't have traditional values. I'm tired of these racist tropes that other people in the "diaspora" use against us.

[@JustCallMeJaph]

I also notice that many immigrant *families are allowed to seek help via public funds (WIC, Section 8, SNAP, etc.) However, ADOS families have to essentially break up to receive public assistance, i.e. the father, adult-son/male family member can't live in the home or assistance is cut off. They access systems that we built with our tax dollars, as families, and those same systems tear our families apart.

[@richlandcountyblackcollect7882]

Japh Allen excellent point.

[@tyroniussupapookiemcleroy1403]

@@richlandcountyblackcollect7882 Hope to see some new content from you soon. You're one of my favorite ADOS advocates

[@carolync9408]

Ms blue dress loves to hear herself talk. Love ADOS talking it out.

[@bobbyschannel349]

Instead of identifying themselves as he her her pronouns I want to know who's African and who's black American in the beginning.

[@yahainHotPink]

This! It's embarrassing doing pronouns. I'm a woman, that's all. Goodness. I was hoping someone would break the chain. But not one.

[@tecumseh4095]

You can’t tell who is who because you are the same African people

[@Bb99bb99kb]

S/o to the AA students they did very well👏🏾

[@goj2038]

Brittany and the other sis represented like a mo fo...the brotha did too. #ADOS 🙌🏾

[@brittanysymone813]

Thank you kind person

[@keelhe893]

Although this was 4 yrs ago. I am so glad and pleased that my fellow ADOS are finding our voice again and standing up to the BS they handled themselves so well!

[@GDIEternal]

There was an obvious example of cultural access was missed in this conversation. Timbari talked about black Americans making good faith efforts but didn't use his own involvement in Alpha Phi Alpha (basing that on what I think his bracelet signifies). He has access to African-American Greek life by virtue of being a black man even though he is not African-American. BUT, he still had to follow the pledge process. That's an example of African Americans gatekeeping a part of their own culture. In many African cultures, many things are available only to people in certain social or clan groups. You don't just run in and do whatever you want. What you have access to is following the process that culture has put in place for gatekeeping. As an African-American that practices a traditional African religion, people in my position have to do the same thing. I can't just go buy masks, statues, and jewelry and call myself a spiritual leader/healer/etc., I have to go through divination, initiation, and training. On the other hand, some things are more general and open, but I think a lot of us African Americans don't feel like enough of our culture and cultural knowledge is protected enough that tradition bearers can regulate, so we get defensive anytime someone from outside our group shows interest. We should work on creating safeguards and processes that aren't aimed at excluding people but rather protecting the integrity of our culture so we can share it with all kinds of people for generations to come. We can't share anything with anyone (including ourselves) if we lose it.

[@kr-dv9nx]

As an American Descendant ofnSlavery, you avsolutely have a right ro everything of your ancestors heritage from the African continent. Even more than those still there. Your ancestors lands and KINGDOMS were INVADED by surrounding black insurgents collaborating with white invading europeans. Capturing the owners of those lands enslaving them and shipping them off of the continent so usurper can take over through those coups.

[@NihlisticRebel]

Excellent comment. And i was with you until "not to exclude". #ADOS specificity and self id is the first step in creating those safeguards. Exclusion is necessary for protection even from those who dont intend harm. Nothing of value, specifically an intangible like culture, is all inclusive all the time. Nothing bad or negative about exclusion. But only #ADOS are expected to be all inclusive. You as a practitioner of an ATR had to pay a cost to be included in the devination,initiation, and training. And even still you follow their instruction and guidance for your new landscape to maintain the integrity of the thing youve been invited into. If you violate the boundry, youre out. The hubris of continental Africans has them thinking bc they paid to be here in white America they can dictate to Black Americans how things are and will be, all the while being completely ignorant to the fact there are two americas that only share the same geopolitical space but remain in constant opposition. Political solidarity is the price for our allyship that far too few non ados have or are willing to pay. But the masses who dont pay try to ride the coatails of those who have (garvey, chisolm, etc). Now weve reached our limit, demandin they pay the cost for benefitting off our lineages struggle and those tht refuse are out. When we demand the same respect they show others we're serious. I cant go to any other country where the diaspora is populated, whether they're the majority or not, and do and say the things they say to us.

[@Shreder214]

Insightful perspective, thanks for sharing.

[@javionriley8739]

Black Americans in the south like myself are very gatekeeperish of there culture & identity because we have constantly been under act !! Compared to those who live in the north!! These non black Americans have never seen such as push back before!! And that’s why there all SHOOK !! these types of arguments are only going to get bigger

[@elijahlyrics3790]

Black is a color Lol

[@CM-fe3qc]

Black Americans have a different relationship with the word ‘black’. We don’t think of it so literally as others do. It works for us! Black Carribeans also use the word ‘black’.

[@making-a-way]

Absolutely, JaVion!

[@Wideout4]

Yes yes yes thanks for this comment

[@Wideout4]

Like the grapevine was an example of this

[@ashleigh8812]

My FBAS siblings was setting the record straight and I'm proud. 💯🤣

[@iam6th963]

All hands salute for this discussion...salute to you the young #ados.

[@BeGreat-mx9iz]

All I want to know is if I can travel to Africa and be bold enough to beat my fist in my hand and address a group of Africans aggressively the way the girl in the blue and head wrap just did while in America. It’s not where you are from it’s where you are! We definitely need to gate keep a little bit more because people of other cultures definitely do. Africans love to talk about how traditional they are…yet a lot of their goals are to come to America.

[@Ray-fw9nc]

She was raised here. Plus she's a black woman. Whether we agree or disagree,.. She has a right to speak on it.

[@BeGreat-mx9iz]

@@Ray-fw9nc like I said BLACK AMERICANS need to gate keep a little more. She does not identify with anything pertaining to America or Black America even if she was raised here sir.

[@robertsmithlll8464]

@Ray-fw9nc no she does not. Smh y’all immigrants are very disrespectful. You people are getting ahead of yourselves better watch it.

[@belizesuperstar]

She's rude and has no decorum

[@mrblack8272]

I’m sorry ain’t nobody talking to me like the girl in the blue dress in my own damn country.

[@dawrldizmike]

I think Africans don’t understand that cutting on each other or even roasting is part of the culture. People joking on accents or food is not specific to Africans. We clown our own dialects and foods.

[@MissMeMe343]

They don't get it at all!

[@dawrldizmike]

Reina De corazones they are literally in the video complaining about getting roasted in their childhood not one person from America did. And if you’re talking about online leave your house. If you wouldn’t say it to someone face to face put your phone down.

[@dawrldizmike]

Reina De corazones nobody thinks foreigners are mean because of a joke. Especially one using “clap back” still.

[@dawrldizmike]

Reina De corazones ok better so you just understand the difference between a joke a slur. You definitely in a city like mines calling somebody slur and not getting washed.

[@dawrldizmike]

Reina De corazones you are a level s 🌽🏀

[@ndlovukazim318]

Black Americans, may be black but they are also American. That citizenship on its own and your accent is the difference between being stopped and harrased by airport security and being let through. Being American protects you from other forms of oppression that even non black people experience for their nationality.

[@belizesuperstar]

Shorty in the Blue needs to chill. She's out of control and need to sit the next one out until she learns how to communicate effectively.

[@Lewsv]

Interesting discourse.. ADOS is based on lineage just like the rest of the diaspora

[@tecumseh4095]

You are an African Descendants! Not American

[@majilyric]

They tried to say that ADOS benefits from colorism because of the ONE light skin ADOS girl, as if there weren’t two other ADOS students who are clearly the same shade as the Nigerian man sitting next to them and the other Nigerian (?) girl across the room sitting in the higher chair. 😂😂😂😂

[@SoundTheAlarm7]

It's difficult listening to these stories as a black american because, I don't care where anyone come from or what they've been through, You should respect people regardless, you respect them the way you want to be respected and that's all. No education is required. I'm not gonna explain the plight of black america to anyone, I shouldn't have to tell anyone our story for them to know to respect our people. If I go to a different country, I don't need to know their history to respect them, I'm just gonna respect them and the country I'm in, and just know I'm different based on me not having their history in the country as a citizen or being indigenous. I will learn about them also. Simple.

[@jocelynjones2825]

Agreed! The way these people come here and are so rude and disrectful is unfathomable. Such behavior is a sign of ignorance and stupidity. The way they speak so highly of themselves you would think they should know better and behave more appropriately.

[@SoundTheAlarm7]

@@jocelynjones2825 Exactly!

[@lordschild673]

The tension was this, the most offensive part was the fact that the other black cultures were basically all ganged up and debating against the ADOS... The most disrespectful and ignorant thing is the fact that most black cultures believe that black Americans don’t have a culture and that is so damn wrong and ignorant...

[@Universityofuncommonsense]

24:40 im so tired of hispanics saying the N word... Why did she feel comfortable saying it. You don't need to be saying it either

[@Jay-qe7be]

Blue dress was being rude, cutting people off the entire video. Not to mention her vulgarness and use of profanity all to defend a guy who seemingly othered ADOS in a way that offended them. Do not invite her back if you plan to do this again. Replace her ASAP. The conversation would feel much lighter and cohesive.

[@Jay-qe7be]

@Winx Believe I couldn't care less what her name is nor where she's from. She's the epitome of ignorant non ADOS blacks who need to be checked properly.

[@goj2038]

Winx Believe Her name is irrelevant. She is afforded the opportunity to flap that big mouth because ADOS. Not because of Ghana slavery. She and her parents are Johnny come lately’s. They came AFTER our lineage marched, got beat, and died. The fuck her lineage do? Besides get section 8.

[@jaimarai6865]

Delineate from africans and caribbeans.

[@anubis6861]

How does that stop Africans and Caribbean’s? If you don’t know, we are taking over. I’m just here to enjoy your hate. The things you say are really funny

[@Negro.spiritual]

​​@@anubis6861you are not, the immigrant population does not represent the average nigerian, yet you want to use the most exceptional members of your country (immigrants) and use them to push a narrative built around a false equivalency, give it a rest.

[@mrblack8272]

@@anubis6861lmao why do y’all leave your house to come live in someone else’s house and claim yall taking over lmao. Translation: “we can be better slaves than y’all black Americans” that’s what taking over means to you. Also might want to take over your own land becuase yall don’t run shit in your countries and yall 90% of the population, make it make sense. We got more rights here that we fought for in a country that’s 75% white. Shame on yall.

[@saints0931]

@@anubis6861 but you’re not taking over anything what are you taking over? Please tell me.

[@saints0931]

@@anubis6861 go take over your homeland

[@queenvenus9128]

Great video!! Everyone contributed valid points to the conversation. Please do a part 2 (same panel).

[@goj2038]

The Nigerian said “clout chase’n “. Him saying clout chase’n....is CLOUT CHASE’N. That’s our lingo. This vulture lol

[@s.o.6486]

I have started telling all non-ADOS to stop using our "vernacular" including the Africans, Jamaicans, and Latinos. They are always taken aback and then proceed to tell me how they have a right to use it. I really put them in their place when they do that and tell them if you are not descended from American Slavery you are not allowed to use certain words. Get your own American culture, stop being lazy and stealing our stuff. They are always stunned b/c they are not used to an ADOS setting solid boundaries around our culture.

[@tbg6070]

@@s.o.6486 Yet an African espousing the same attitude (there are plenty of stuff yall would be accused of "stealing") would be "proof" to yall lunatics of how Africans hate Black Americans.

[@americanlady738]

@Hello Suga ADOS is a unique culture within our American culture. As black American Descendants of U.S. we are the architects of our unique ADOS vernacular. ADOS vernacular was born out of the pain of U.S. chattel slavery which included, black American male & female slaves being raped by our male & female slave owners, being sold from the upper American South to the American cotton South and permanently separated from our husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, & siblings. Being tortured increasingly more each day to forcibly increase our production to build America and make America the wealthiest country in the history of the world. ADOS vernacular was born out of the pain of our male and female slave masters roasting and boiling our bodies and then delighting in eating us (literally), surviving Reconstruction, surviving Jim/Jane Crow, the continued plunder of our wealth, mass incarceration, being first fired last hired, redlining, etc. You are absolutely wrong and are happily participating the ethnocide of ADOS and it won't be tolerated. Unfortunately for ADOS our government has historically passed horrific immigration laws. Fortunately' this is a new day and our immigration laws will be updated and highly enforced. So yes ADOS is a has our own vernacular within our American homeland. If a person's lineage can't be traced to ancestors and who experienced ALL of the above then that person doesn't have access to ADOS' culture, economics, politics, or vernacular.

[@americanlady738]

@Hello Suga This is dumbest most ill-informed comment I've read an a long time. Go read some books, if you actually know how to read.

[@goj2038]

@RC15 Hairstyle??? You have to come better than that

[@fountainofproof89]

Proud of you #ADOS for speaking up & holding it down.

[@kashmoney7421]

I felt like everyone except the young lady in the blue was pretty open minded. She seemed pretty guarded and hostile. At a certain point I'm like whatever I'm here as a courtesy I ain't really gotta explain nothing to nobody.

[@jonez2020]

Mark 10:35 This chick is dismissive, rude, arrogant, very hyper aggressive..with a BIG MOUTH! Outer all the rest. I don't know how the other students sat in the same room with her.

[@MotherP_1Ruby]

I am praying for the day when our people, both young and old, can speak without using profanities!

[@user-uw9uw4dd4m]

Profanity ,no matter how much education you have, is a product of a lazy mind. There are a lot of words in the dictionary The Educated classes should know better . As for the lady in blue the African immigrant she would not have interrupted a man. It would not be allowed. If she had something to say she could say it later and with respect in Africa.

[@fastpaced4861]

Why didn't any of the ADOS bring up Nigerians participated in the slave trade and by that Nigerian saying "clout chasing" is a terrorist attack.

[@Cleopatra12ification]

Insightful

[@blackmaleeconomicempowerme6286]

Nigeria didnt exist back then and you descend from the same people idoit. Harriet Tubman was Ashanti....

[@Cleopatra12ification]

@@blackmaleeconomicempowerme6286 wow sone of u are unbelievable #ADOS keep rising and people hone countries must be

[@Cleopatra12ification]

@@blackmaleeconomicempowerme6286 we are not one #ADOS*†***** flatten of blackness is obsolete

[@Cleopatra12ification]

@@fastpaced4861 Will do

[@aliseinwonderland6232]

Why is that chic loud and smacking her hands when everyone is chilled, her tone and demeanour seemed unwarranted

[@hakeemfemi3367]

All these guys make great points, nice video

[@josephvalentine7]

@15:47 something, you’re correct , and the hierarchy starts with black Americans then the black foreigners! And I shouldn’t have to break that down !

[@salimaellis3765]

F that it sounds like he steped in and out of his blackness as an AfriKaan. We ain't the same

[@profitmakr5114]

Thank you ADOS for a very informative discussion. We Indigenous people don't all agee with each other either. Some of our issues are similar, but many are not, as we don't have an immigrant population among our people. Proud of you, and our young people too. There are challenges black people and Indigenous people have to deal with that others have no idea about!

[@majilyric]

Blue dress comparisons were wack. How does being seen as an African starving child clearly in need equate to being seen as a violent Black-American? These stereotypes hit way different yo!

[@jjayjae_]

majilyric Racists don't know the difference.

[@jasminepearls1047]

@@jjayjae_ Her name is a giveaway.

[@rynakinggpodcast]

I hope y'all hugged it out lol great conversation

[@jmkworl1310]

The girl in the blue 🤮

[@S3bot]

This is very well done young people. I see a lot of comments but little subscribers. This conversation needs to be posted to others especially the young Africans and Africans of the diaspora. Poverty is an issue in both America and Africa but honestly it is manageable in Africa because you can graze any land for free for food until the government needs it. I would rather be African poor than American poor. AAs have faced more insurmountable obstacles than Africans but the experiences of both have been laced with persecution from the Europeans. I'd add the case of South Africans, Namibians and Botswanans.

[@Smitty753]

The thing that people don't want to admit is that black American culture is the default setting for all black people around the world. Like that Dominican girl see you learn how to handle being a black woman from Black Americans like black people in UK and Africa they learn what being black is from Black Americans.

[@gregwilson9967]

The black americans were representing. The mixed girl was killing it. Thank you.

[@limonesycafe8898]

The Americans are all mixed.

[@user-ep7fu1rv7r]

The darkskin ados girl was actually the smartest

[@MichaelJohnson-zo6jg]

⁠@@limonesycafe8898 No we aren’t im a Foundational Black American my ancestors built the foundation of America some would call me a Black American which is fine.

[@limonesycafe8898]

@@MichaelJohnson-zo6jg If you are from a foundational family of the Americas, as you claim, you’re mixed.

[@MichaelJohnson-zo6jg]

@@limonesycafe8898 I have no immigrants in my Background and I’m fully F.B.A and by the way where are you from are you in America now ? , My family made it possible for your family to live in America or people like your family.

[@mimico9130]

Emory was built by descendants of the enslaved. African students benefit from this fact. Anti-Blackness exist even in the Motherland. Enslavement began in 1414 from Africa to Brazil. Black America create a culture that is deeply appropriated, commodified and codified around the globe. No matter the melanin content, nobody confuses the race, they confuse the culture. We speak the colonizers languages where we are located. The scramble for Africa occurred from 1881-1914. The division is senseless. We are culture, not the social construct that was created.❤

[@QLivin]

Delineate ❤️🔱🖤

[@BiGsImY]

My God I truly just love my PEOPLES!!!

[@minnie1214]

purple dress girl, you preaching to the choir. black americans lived similarly . we starved begged and borrowed come down off your high horse plz

[@0m09ja]

Good and much needed discussion. The truth of it, as panelists said, is that people don’t see things that are out of their experience. I would argue that Black people from immigrant backgrounds know and recognize that there is a distinct Black American culture. We have to know - it’s different than ours!

[@0m09ja]

That being said, in my experience, Black people from immigrant backgrounds often are not accustomed to Black Americans asserting their specific ethnic identity, and react negatively to when this occurs. Again, in my experience, this may be because when it is asserted, it is sharp and comes from a place of defensiveness (which is well warranted).

[@0m09ja]

Black Americans have a right to defend what’s specifically theirs, just like other Black diaspora groups. Period. This #ADOS rhetoric, however, just comes off as hostile and devaluing other Black experiences in America. Other Black people aren’t other Black people’s enemies. White Supremacy is.

[@knuke9596]

@@0m09ja Our rhetoric is harsh because too often non-ADOS blacks don't call out their own when they promote anti-ADOS stereotypes and tropes and engage in elitism.

[@0m09ja]

knuke That’s real. But the reaction of immigrant/non-ADOS Blacks is also defensive, since we are such a small population. We don’t truly feel elite, even if we engage in elitism. Anti-Blackness has us all messed up.

[@knuke9596]

@@0m09ja Our messaging can be too aggressive but I don't want non-ADOS blacks to feel like we want to separate from you guys or bully you guys. But for the purpose of getting what we are owed from the U.S. government we have to be specific.

[@annp.3034]

I noticed that European countries and the Asian countries come together when needed. The African diaspora do not come together and put each other down. It's really sad, Together we stand divided we fall.

[@Kalagenesis]

What gets me is why do these people come to America?

[@fastpaced4861]

To steal from you!

[@Kalagenesis]

brwnish eyes yup 👍

[@elijahlyrics3790]

What kills me is why America profits off of the natural resources of africa?

[@OsheyBaddest]

Because they can

[@Jtve737]

We don't have to explain nothing to Fleeing slum children.

[@mrredwhite1244]

The young lady rep AA ppl. I'm proud

[@28princessbella]

Those Africans sound salty

[@zaynukem]

THEY NOT LIKE US! #DOAS #FBA

[@sdatkb]

She’s right because when your from a all Black Country you don’t see race the same . The African girl

[@Universityofuncommonsense]

5:47 Exactly

[@deeel5692]

Immigrants don't have to "understand" all they have to do is show deference to us in OUR land even if it is colonized by Whites and get on code with US just like we would do if we came to Africa. We would not have to wait to "understand" in order to show deference and respect to you in your land. That is the difference between FBA and everyone else.

[@enosger]

Americas Cherokee and Sioux land, everyone else is immigrants or trafficked.

[@sdatkb]

We growing ADOS

[@chimakalu41]

24:20 hahaha. Because at some point everybody was talking at once.

[@charliejackson6124]

I think I’ve been Afro-American a DOS I love all of the black diaspora from out of Africa and I feel that we can make common ground without having media or outside influence dictate how we think about each other that there is much love but you have to take competition out of the mix and that’s what’s happening in America it’s all about the dollar and who can make the dollar and who does not have the dollar and we can come together and dominate the world as far as culture politics and everything but we have to come together we can’t be divisive that is one thing that the colonist did to split up Africa into the 54 countries and we’re still doing what I asked sisters did back in the 1500s relying on Europeans to tell us how to live and how to look at each other because if it didn’t happen in the 1400s wouldn’t never had the spread of Africans around the world and it would probably look like a total different country today so we have to reflect on the mistakes that we made in the past and don’t make them again

[@sdatkb]

Girl in the blue was on point . Brown skin girl ADOS with the blue .

[@devinedaughter5960]

Flint don’t have clean water correct?

[@deondimicks8159]

Ados has no friends good job for are future generations ados standing on there square

[@elijahlyrics3790]

''you can not have a negative attitudes towards Africa and have a positive attitudes towards yourself '' -- Malcolm X

[@deondimicks8159]

@@elijahlyrics3790 uh yes the fuck I can lol wth

[@wastelandwarrior6350]

FBA 🔥🔥🔥

[@karolkupec2044]

People of any race can not be united it is a naive notion. Everyone is different and from different nations speaking different languages and different cultures, all we can hope for is to tolerate each other and learn to work together. God bless you all

[@user-uw9uw4dd4m]

Young people, we were taught not to use filler words for example the word “Like.” It is or it is not. No short cuts develop your point carefully then Exspress it.

[@Universityofuncommonsense]

I appreciate the Sudanese sister. It seems like many East Africans are able to see the issue on a higher level. I wonder if this is due to them not being related to us.

[@mr.jabbar6443]

Sista in the blue and braids 👍🏿

[@laryjones-jm7ng]

One black world embrace our many rich cultures

[@carolync9408]

You learn other cultures by just being around them or watching them. It’s what you do everyday that’s what culture is. We are all the same except for maybe holidays music food etc. love the young lady in dark blue with long braids you hit it on the head. “ our culture have been diluted” yes! Everybody wants what we do and have but don’t want or like us.

[@idiotu668]

4:51 OK, you see these Rappers .... OK now what? These Africans are a Jealous Bunch of People bro.... Meanwhile the SAME Image these Rappers have, AFRICANS ARE COPYING IT

[@larry_saytee]

Cultural exchanges are a good idea :)))

[@sentinal2343]

Whom ever the AGENT IS give it up, You will never forge any rift with black peoples ever AGAIN!

[@Something-From-Nothingness1]

The non-black Americans in the video are doing the dividing with their disrespectful delusional attitudes

[@amirtazi7721]

This argument is inherently flawed because we are debating on who's black enough... but I do think that even having this conversation is important

[@domju5637]

Ok...