Africans vs African Americans🚨 | Fresh N Fit

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[@julianapps540]

African American parents: you Getting out at 18 African parents: you are only 18 you will finish college before you move out.

[@fire418]

Yeah in poverty, and not even all the time. No well off black American is kicking their kid out at 18, idk if you have been watching too much b.e.t or what.

[@zibelebruciebenubrucieb8850]

​@@fire418why so defensive he didn't offend anyone

[@fire418]

@@zibelebruciebenubrucieb8850 What do you mean? I'm just correcting him. You're wondering why I'm defensive when it's a whole video trash talking black americans.

[@toribabe1000]

​@fire418 even poor Africans do not move out at 18 they move out when they r independent

[@fire418]

@@toribabe1000Ok? You just seen me type that it doesn't happen as much in poverty for black Americans. Go to Africa and compare yourself to other Africans, white people, anybody. Leave us alone Got a random Haitian immigrant and African immigrant in our country trying to instigating drama. Black Americans don't want to be in y'all negative conversations. Leave us out

[@RavianxReacts]

Africans have the same mindset of Asians

[@phamsumi8867]

Yeppp

[@Kulayyu]

We all like rice.

[@Rysco_creations]

Fr😂😂​@@Kulayyu

[@kingmisssile9730]

Look at the demographics of black students in top Universities the majority are African

[@blacktowken1232]

Of course, if their taking over.

[@Lilsp00]

No lie all the African kids in my school were on their shit unless there was a language barrier but even then they didn’t fool around. No gossiping in the hallways to straight to class. They got that work ethic

[@harrysliyoko8809]

They have to lol .

[@mosesobakpolor2470]

If you don't pass you go back home, 😂😂 they know what they came for and where they came from.

[@susiem.2068]

We have to our parents are not messing around. 😭😂

[@Daryl-Turyl_pitz]

Yeah I wouldn't want to disappoint moms and make her humiliate me at school

[@2tappsv1]

@@Daryl-Turyl_pitzI’m in Canada now I remember when my mom beat me in front of the class 😭

[@aviyahchaverim9388]

Because so called "African Americans" are NOT African. They are born in the US. Different culture, different people.

[@Teddy-se8qb]

they definitely arent they same. they were sold for a reason.

[@rightofcl]

Genetically majority African roots though

[@Poppinoffchannel]

African Americans' bloodline doesn't connect to Africa either. These are lies told down the years. There was black all over the world and not just Africa.

[@larryforeman]

@@rightofclnope

[@User_03693]

Still African.

[@Me-ng9ut]

Immigrants from Africa usually have 2 parent households, advanced degrees, discipline and work ethic and expect the same of their children.

[@officerricky3230]

Not true at all, those are the exceptions. Is like kids that come from the Caribbean. Why is it so hard to understand that for a lot of kids coming to the US is an opportunity and their parents can’t afford for them to lose out on that opportunity. By proxy , black people from overseas will have different mentality

[@jchuks23]

@@officerricky3230​​⁠​⁠​⁠Well as a person whose parents are African immigrants and being around African communities, what OP said is pretty true. Most immigrants worked their ass off just to get to the US and do their best not to squander the opportunity. Also I don’t see how you’re not saying something very similar to the OP

[@officerricky3230]

@@jchuks23 Advanced degrees ? And the OP acted like that’s not what Myron said . The people that come from different backgrounds aren’t more privileged. What about Mexicans that come through the border ? Were they privileged too? Cause those kids are also out performing other groups.

[@criostoirashtin11]

@@officerricky3230 Hard work pays off

[@Mimi-bd6jd]

My cousins in Africa live in a single parent household with just their mother in the house. Let’s start there. I grew up in a single parent household. My friend who I met here from Burundi also grew up with no father in the home. My other friend, her father died when she was four? So mmmmh come again?

[@Nocaine281]

Fresh is the most useless element of this podcast. Never speaks for himself, all he does is hide behind Myron and ad-lib.

[@muaddib989]

Wrong. He’s also a high value “yes man” for Rollo & other perceived alpha males. You can call him a high value door mat as well.

[@beelawb735]

Ad-lib 😂 That’s so true

[@abhishekdarjee7069]

He is low value man and even bad looking 🤣

[@aliamar8344]

I never understood why that dude is up on that pedestal. Dude ain’t good looking, buff or charismatic. Even if you only care about the superficial redpill characteristics, this dude’s got less charisma than a toddler. Same speaking skill too.

[@dianp4824]

it's called beta male

[@RaymondArthur-qd3on]

As a person living in africa most Africans travel to america with the mindset of working and making it big. Most the Africans in America make money and build mansions here in africa and is all about mindset

[@thetruedoctrineofchristnet7473]

You live in AFRICA!! You don't know our plight!! Stop speaking in what you don't know!

[@RaymondArthur-qd3on]

@@thetruedoctrineofchristnet7473 and so

[@queenkuty1221]

But you all mostly have to leave to do that. Where do black Americans go? If we are already in a country that is suppose to be the best..but we barely experienced it.? Where fo we go?

[@logoutofmyaccountweirdo]

​@@queenkuty1221there is no where to go that's why you have to change where you're at as unfair as it sounds the only people affected are the only ones who are going to give a genuine fuck about it. So y'all have to get more involved in your local, state, and federal elections to have your say be heard and actually matter as the people who tend to vote the most and hardest are rich old white people who couldn't give a fuck about the problems of lower to middle class people so they'll always vote in there own interest and since they're the only ones who always turn up they're the ones who are being listened to as although money is important getting the votes is what matters most to a politician so make sure to vote to have your influence on these politicians as votes is what keeps him in power.

[@logoutofmyaccountweirdo]

​@@queenkuty1221you could also just move to Europe or Australia tbh I find them to be better places to live in if your middle to lower class as theres alot of welfare programs available that don't have as much stigma around it as American welfare programs.

[@enathi7435]

Bro we don't have time to play when you in a foreign country it's no joke

[@wtfimcrying]

It is also a cultural thing tho. Africans have lots of pressure to succeed in school.

[@unclebobboomergames]

Yeah but that culture is a product of enviornment

[@nicholeweltanschauung8245]

So we should see those same rates of success in the African nation they come from.

[@wtfimcrying]

@@unclebobboomergames sure but not necessarily a very rich one lol. Africans receive pressure to succeed regardless of economic factors usually. Which is why i find it weird destiny pivoted towards “they come from poor homes!”. Which is a possible cause for many “black” problems, but it doesnt get down to the essence of the problem. Which is the effect, not the cause.

[@unclebobboomergames]

@@wtfimcrying if your family has enough money to move across the world than the enviornment is most likely much more well off for that particular family

[@nicholeweltanschauung8245]

​@OnlyRetroGames yep, my Nigerian anthro professor studied at Oxford. His father was the wealthiest farmer in his village. The poorest farmer in the village could not afford university education no matter the cultural influence, and this is the case for many others around the world, including in the USA.

[@ashtonphoenyx]

The fact that a white man is speaking the most sense about this subject to a group of BLACK PEOPLE, while three of them attempt to disagree with him is fucking embarassing Smfh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jayjones251]

if those black folks are immigrants or come from immigrants, then it makes more sense.

[@noco7243]

None of them are Black AMERICAN. They are migrants

[@gloriamatte1847]

I agree with that. Well educated guy. He really speaks facts

[@Tiseytooreal]

Facts

[@yodad723]

That's because most if not all of the Black people here are Caribbean and Africans(Like Myron) not apart of the Black American ethnicity so they come from immigrant families not from the same culture, history and identity of most Black people in America.

[@redman958]

No thug culture among African immigrants.

[@ursaamajorr]

It's wild how these immigrants love to generalize all blk Americans because they landed in a low income neighborhood. If I were to migrate to an African or Carribean country and speak down on the locals: "they complain too much", "too many excuses", "they don't try hard enough" I'd be seen as short sighted and ignorant. Where do they find the audacity? Also, are you not aware of the multiple HBCU's founded by blk Americans? The thousands of inventions? Civil Rights? We've never reached any kind of success in this country? No middle class and upper middle class blk neighborhoods? Really? Before migrating and reaping the rewards of my ancestors sacrifices, do some research. Educate yourself. Google is free.

[@joemama4473]

Except no you would come from a rich country, Africans come from a poor country, no more excuses brownie.

[@ursaamajorr]

@@joemama4473 it wasn't always equal. It wasn't always the land of opportunity for blk ppl. Blk Americans bled, sacrificed and died to have the opportunities immigrants take for granted. Civil Rights were enacted in the 60s. My mother was a teen then, meaning that "equality" is new in the US. There was this little thing called segregation and Jim Crow laws. Again, blk Americans fought for the freedom many immigrants take part in.

[@ursaamajorr]

@@joemama4473 what is your excuse for not fighting for rights is YOUR country the way blk Americans fought? 🤔

[@MiggyBiggy]

You should take your own advice, or better yet turn up up the intensity in which you use brainpower, though considering you don’t posses much you don’t necessarily have a choice, with all the “inventions” and HCBUs you founded you will still never see any wealth because you were never involved in their creations nor are you a descendant of someone who found those inventions, there is no systemic benefit in which you are rewarded because of your peoples contributions to society, that wealth has to be inherited by lineage or obtained

[@lbbyron154]

Man thank you bro you put that shi right I had to unfollow them for this

[@abdallasa7077]

Y'all really think rich Africans don't exist😂😂😂 What a warped way of thinking😂

[@vivek27789]

You really think thousands and thousands of African even Asian and South American students are from rich background? Most students come to America through thousands of merit based international scholarships provided by hundreds of American universities. And great amount of those students also have sustained their primary and secondary education in their country through scholarships,grants , missionary Christian schools and government quota for kids from lower middle class and poor backgrounds. Change u r own bloody warped thinking first. 🤦

[@omzy8700]

The issue rich African will never leave their countries to live in the west

[@Roseau112]

Some people need to get out of their bubble and get out into the real world. Some still have an ignorant mindset and believe that Africans are poor and live in mud huts.

[@docaz9453]

All the corrupt leaders in africa sending their children and families to study abroad and transfer all the continent money to european banks 😂

[@docaz9453]

​@@omzy8700that bullshit most rich africans are corrupt lwaders who keep their money in european banks 😂

[@grumpymonkeyenterprises6413]

All those African kids in my college r wealthy asf. None of them r dirt poor. Edit- I love making comments that turn into full on town hall debates.

[@freppy06]

that doesn't mean they were rich in Africa. Foreigners always say how easy it is to be successful in the USA. We just take it for granted.

[@grumpymonkeyenterprises6413]

@@freppy06 no man, they’re families were rich in Africa. They don’t become rich going to college🤦‍♂️ they make money after school. There r rich people in Africa buddy, they don’t all become rich in America. They’re rich people in most countries.

[@freppy06]

@@grumpymonkeyenterprises6413 To be fair, I've seen both. I'm black and have been to church with many African families. Destiny's argument doesn't make sense either way. The idea of American racism is predicated on skin color ALONE. Admitting that MONEY and NOT COLOR is the dominant factor in the American experience completely invalidates the systemic racism argument. That's what conservatives have been saying all along. That's the beauty of the free market. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Financial success comes from knowledge and mindset, which is most strongly influenced by environment, i.e culture.

[@lovejunkie490]

@@freppy06 how they were not rich if they went to America? 🤓 do you know the price of a plane ticket, visa, hotel in America compared to their income from fucking USD to their local currency idiot? People in some country of Africa live with less than one dollar a day

[@grumpymonkeyenterprises6413]

@@freppy06 there’s very wealthy people in Africa because most of Africa is made up of Black people. Those rich people come to America and do great bc they already had a stable financial background. Systemic racism was what prevented Black Americans to tap into that “free market”. Becoming wealthy can fight but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I don’t think it’s as bad as it was in the 60s-90s but it’s still alive.

[@heaty007]

My parents did not play with my education. This guy is correct

[@cameronjws]

African immigrants are some of the wealthiest and most educated in the US

[@thejoker9602]

Might be and also the poorest immigrants in Europe. The poorest africans dont go to the u.s nor are allowed there. they usually go to countries like the uk and France. Africans in the 🇺🇸 come from upper middle class families>+that’s why you’ll never see one working as a construction worker like the ones in France

[@dguthrie1]

No they not

[@kingsteph5750]

@@dguthrie1 you must live under the rock 😂

[@dguthrie1]

@@kingsteph5750they are not especially knowing how terrible their countries are

[@Mmmhmm_sure]

​@@dguthrie1black Americans neighborhood s are just as terrible.

[@honeyylilac6161]

Africans have so much to lose if we screw up the opportunity to live in a first world country and support our families from where we are. It's the same for Asians and any other third world citizen, the pressure on the oldest kids in the family to keep everyone else in he household afloat is extremely high because we understand that they depend on us to survive. Side note, culturally, family is the most important thing to us which is why we just can't conceptualize individualism(a western cultural thing). We will literally do anything for our families.

[@randompost4180]

Instead of toughening up and building your own country. You want to come here where the white man controls everything and treats you like crap. That’s what’s wrong with black people now you feel like you need master for everything.

[@UnknownUser-nu8ny]

I honestly think this is the deciding factor. Value of family but not just the nuclear family but your entire family (aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents). My uncles, aunts, and grandparents are on the same level of importance to me nearly as my parents and for my cousins near level to my siblings. This isn’t something that’s common in the west. You’d be lucky to have a nuclear family that is close let alone an entire family.

[@aidan2849]

Yea even the African footballers behave this way. And send money to all their family members and are even pressured to according to John obi mikel

[@fearablackheaven1198]

So how many generations of your family had fail with 2 parent family units in order for you to flee your homeland?? Why didn’t they fight or build in your homeland in order to make a better place like foundational black Americans did for their children and yours??

[@icetrip2417]

​@@aidan2849true and build schools to

[@Free-leftistaction]

To think African IMMIGRANTS and American blacks have equal footing in life is completely out of this world

[@Free-leftistaction]

@@Aksfsc IMMIGRANTS come from fairly wealthy families on average so to think swaths of people didn’t have running water or electricity somehow bootstrapped their way to a comfortable position in the first world is outside of reality

[@Reasonablewater27]

@@Aksfsc I’m sorry to break it you but ppl coming from poor countries and automatically succeeding its not work ethic that got them their

[@Reasonablewater27]

@@Aksfsc answer this question do you really think poor African coming from Their country and immigrating to America are working all the way to the top and get to the suburbs just based off of work ethic?

[@Free-leftistaction]

@@Aksfsc I'm unaware of how you think systemic racism is something you "run into" (which is ironic because so many of these conservative types don't hesitate to point out when men are slighted in society). It's embded into quite literally every institution and has firmly embeded roots in american history. I definetely see some survivorship bias here because for every person you can point out who "worked hard" I can point out 50 more people who have worked the most grueling labor their entire lives and have NOTHING change for their financial situation (not to mention the fact that your metrics of success and mine could be COMPLETELY different). Why does it seem like every conservative who follows Destiny doesn't even want anything different but instead has a servile reverence for the status quo?

[@Free-leftistaction]

@@Aksfsc Despite the fact that upward mobility has the smallest chance of serving you than it's ever had? Despite the fact that wealth inequality is at its greatest extent? Despite the fact that the middle class keeps on shrinking and shrinking? Despite the fact that virtually every instance of empirical data and every trusted economist disagrees with your ideas of your bootstrapy notions?

[@Philgent15]

I totally agree with a guy with the blue hair... He was telling straight facts of how black Americans are treated in America

[@ome8243]

As an African who came to Canada in 2018 I really struggled For the first two years but saved up money by doing crazy overtime for those two years living in a house with 4 other ppl paying $300 for rent .finished school then became a manager at the same place i worked at Making $40 an hour now bought a house for cheap 80k cleaned it and renovated it for 20k and got married this October 2023. All I wanna say don't expect too much all at once my $40 an hour might not be much for some ppl but for me it's plenty and I'm still working on getting better don't hate your life before trying your hardest to change it!

[@carolines6195]

You did great, I made less than half that. However, I also juggled 3 kids and worked full time and went to school. I am married, invested in property. I was a graduate while making that wage, but my eye was always on the bigger picture. I never felt broke a day in my life. I cut my coat according to my size, as we say in Nigeria. Which simply means, live within your means.

[@CastleDragon78]

He's Right. It's not the mindset. It's a reality the places black Americans live were intentionally broken because power was stripped away. Immigrants are a buffer class as well.

[@hinatababe97]

No it is a mindset, when you get naming our circles and often when we interact, us Africans can see BA’s have this “I’m owed everything” mindset and very lazy approaches (I’d say the split is even with men and women but women more so) they have poor community values (selfishness) despite several methods of congregation. Also, they are very emotional

[@CastleDragon78]

@@hinatababe97 Your projection of us feeds on negativity. Steer your analysis towards everyday black people doing something good… transportation driver, police officer, teacher, clerk, secretary, radio DJ… you will find some nice things to think about us. bless us like that and leave the rest alone. it was the same people who dug canals, crushed rocks, picked cotton and made this country rich and it was those people who were kept out of the wealth and had to fight for a future. Be thankful offer us peace

[@RvnntSoc]

​@@CastleDragon78My brotha! Tell these hamites how we do.

[@a-manwhorememains334]

Africans and Africans Americans are not the same. Most Africans I have met don't even wanna act like I'm from the same species as them. There's no brother or sisterhood there trust me.

[@nancyfancy1956]

Africans will tell how they were bullied by African Americans

[@palesatiro1007]

Like you mean they dont want to act like they are from Nigeria

[@a-manwhorememains334]

@palesatiro1007 no that's not like what I mean

[@israeljudite8434]

We not. They are descendants of Ham Us negroes are Descendants of Shem. This why Kyrie Irving stated that he can’t be antisemitic because us Black Americans are Semitic. They hiding our true identity and heritage that’s why they shut down Kayne so fast. Pay a fuckin attention

[@rexs.5188]

@@palesatiro1007 Indian immigrants that live outside don't seem like Indians to me. They only look like me but there is no familiarity, therefore i don't consider them my people.

[@kobe4184]

Destiny just proved their point. The families mindset lmfaooo

[@tuecha525]

I think sometime Destiny doesn't understand what he is saying.

[@cloudyskies7591]

And their wallets , and political connections

[@germaineguilavogui5681]

We Afticans ate not comparing ourselves to anyone. That is way back to our mind. We have goals to fullfil to make our life and our families life better Nothing is wrong with that

[@NamasteInYourLane]

How do people not understand this by now? Lol

[@huh6441]

because it’s easier and convenient for the uneducated to peddle racist garbage. There’s someone in the comments who literally said they should pull themselves by their bootstraps lol. It’s actually quite sad many Americans are ill informed about what happened in their own backyard. Got them fighting the race war rather than the class war.

[@WillberRidge310]

afrocentric people still exist and it all comes from the u.s and u.k of course not everyone understands this.

[@leonc4657]

Because their whole mindset revolves around being disingenuous

[@isaiahthomas6744]

Willful ignorance

[@TagaBearClaw]

my brother stole candy from me 20 years ago. i still hold a grudge against him x)

[@faithfulGodNG]

As a Nigerian, when i hear Americans say the system is rigged i smile. I believe the reason most Nigerians succeed when they move to countries in Europe and the Americas is because in these societies Effort (hardwork) is rewarded which is what we lack in our country. This guy isn't completely wrong either is he completely right.

[@sm1purplmurderedme583]

im nigerian too and i agree

[@dguthrie1]

Why not succeed in their own country

[@noco7243]

Why did you flee your homeland and slum to live off of a country Black Americans built?

[@faithfulGodNG]

@@noco7243 my dear, you've just proved my point. Your ignorance is showing in how you assumed I left my country.

[@faithfulGodNG]

@@dguthrie1 did you read and understand the comment?

[@TheBlankNoName]

As a second-generation Nigerian immigrant, what he is saying is right but also wrong in some ways. He said they might as well be white, which is a little racist as he is basically saying that African Americans are lazy and have terrible families, but I come from a family that was extremely wealthy in Nigeria, and we have a lot of connections to the point where my parents didn’t even want to move to America and planned to be there for a short time but just decided to stay and become citizens. A lot of African immigrants who came to America are wealthy in Africa in some way, as those who aren’t wouldn’t have the resources to get to America and may immigrate to a country illegally that isn't as hard to illegally do as Greece, which was a popular spot around the time my parents moved to America. Now it’s obviously not impossible to get to America from Africa if you are poor, but you basically have to be so lucky that winning the lottery for millions is more likely, and it will likely never be illegal as that is almost impossible to do. The only reason Africans left is because of the wars and terrible governments that are plaguing Africa, and they don’t want to raise their children in those environments. Immigrant parents are naturally pretty demanding of their children for them to be successful, but Africans just want to see results and success. Having African parents sort of forces you to be successful in the way we are raised... I have never heard someone say that we are closer to white people, though. Anyway, I hope you guys are a little less ignorant now.

[@drb215]

the white guy is correct.

[@Mimi-bd6jd]

As an African myself, we don’t approve of Myron’s bias ideology.

[@RoniForeva]

Girl Stop trying to pander to black Americans and speak for yourself, im African and he’s not all the way wrong.

[@TeeSpells]

You Africans know nothing of African American history we set the standards for All black people on the damn planet including Africa it wouldn't be no movement if it wasn't for the black African Americans standing out to the white oppressors. Still to this day you have black Africans defending white South Africans standup for yourself. We have total different experiences we are the minority ruled by white major as in Africa you have nothing but a see of black people. Have you ever heard of sundown towns in America? Africans are beginning to understand how racist people impact average American society. We fought for are races that includes that rights for African immigrants to come in this country. You have no idea how they use the African Americans after we built this damn country as skilled labours do your research before you speak such nonsense.

[@eigbedionalex9782]

I am Nigerian and what Destiny said was bullshit

[@ChiyoFujimura454]

@@RoniForeva triggered over an opinion

[@thermologo3451]

​@@RoniForeva as an African I agree with OP. lets be honest you probably pander to whites a lot

[@jasminer66788]

They are also taking the best of the best from their countries. If we really want to compare, then compare a normal black American household to a normal Nigerian, Ghanaian household in their respective countries. It would be like a bunch of successful black Americans coming into a foreign country and asking them why they’re not as successful as them.

[@onhn2655]

They won't do that because it kills their narrative

[@shun8733]

EXACTLY!!

[@RakugaX]

BOOM! You got it.

[@Trae884]

Exactly, you're one of the few people who said anything that made sense.

[@bhopirl4552]

it’s the same with first generation East Asians who come here. They have to have a certain amount of wealth just to immigrate and on top of that they are usually very competent people and push their kids to do well. A lot of people think all East Asians are just smart and rich because they worked they way up. But most of the wealthy immigrants came from money already and have an increased drive to succeed. Many poor Asians are actually ones that have been here longer, stuck in the cycle of poverty for generations. Like do we really think those railroad workers, or small shop owners amassed generational wealth?

[@kinggee5605]

The white guy had more sense than the rest of those clowns up there on that panel.

[@central8448]

Myron is discounting recent history. As a black immigrant I can say thanks to MLK and the civil rights movement who paved the way. They helped create the opportunities.

[@theoneeternal9046]

He's not discounting anything. I'm grateful to MLK as well. But to say I owe this generation of AA anything is insane logic.

[@central8448]

@@theoneeternal9046 to each his own. I recognize and acknowledge the path and the soldiers on which I stand. Just like my ancestors in Haiti who started the end of slavery.

[@yammoto148]

To put it like this, most african countries have a poverty ratio close to 50%. That means if they can afford to come to America, they are usually going to be sophisticated and driven individuals who have very strict expectations of them.

[@vivek27789]

Ever heard of International scholarships?🤦

[@yammoto148]

@@vivek27789 Ah yes international scholarships, there is more than 40 countries in africa, they are only financing 10 kids here buddy. And the only people who they are bringing over are the academically driven who are usually from you guessed it rich families.

[@Stunt877]

@@yammoto148 Nah I agree with everything you saying but that’s not the main reason why they are successful they are successful because the way America is set up they can’t fail. They have the advantage and headstart over the average American

[@yammoto148]

@@Stunt877 Yes because the ones coming to america are from really rich families or were already high functioning over achievers before they even reach America.

[@geasslelouch]

​@@yammoto148 these "rich" families you talk about are still around 30k earning households in America. There is a cultural difference and you need to go outside more while getting rid of this white messiah complex. poor black americans champion crime, they are entitled, they dont like to work and they dislike education. Yes there are historical reasons for why black americans struggle and are behind but it should not be this bad.

[@chrisbro1849]

As a black American woman from the south, I always wanted to make sure I never played the race card. For the most part I haven’t but when I move to NY ( one of the most liberal states) I got to meet so many people around the world. All of them get help with government assistances and I mean tons of it! Most Black Americans don’t even know about it and when tried to get for themselves;turned down!

[@bradleylawless9595]

That’s because democrats are racist and look at everything through race

[@josifish4]

What program is this you speak of. I want to know the name of the program that gives" lots of stuff" for free to african or any other immigrant

[@Blaze9946]

​@@josifish4 you want everything free I am coming from India a place where poor people have to give something

[@josifish4]

@Blaze9946 I have worked 70 or more hours a week for 30 years as a union iron worker. I work as hard or harder than any man on this planet. I've earned everything I have. Watch your mouth you little weasle

[@ernestorodriguez456]

@@josifish4 depends what they’re here for. In Cali there’s a lot of programs where you get work, housing, and food. You don’t pay bills because they’re covered by a company, you qualify for state money to go to trade school and get money from housing. So yeah at least in Cali there’s alot.

[@forextrader6246]

African immigrants have the same values and very driven like Asian immigrants. That's why they are successful.

[@jerseyboyantbrooks2824]

Why aren’t they successful back home

[@james56660]

@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 + They are:

[@forextrader6246]

@@jerseyboyantbrooks2824 The USA has more opportunities. Their "home" is also your home don't forget where you came from

[@jerseyboyantbrooks2824]

@@forextrader6246 no it’s not my home is the USA

[@jerseyboyantbrooks2824]

@@forextrader6246 never been to Africa lol from 500 years ago. Nawh we have our own culture and history in America.

[@palesatiro1007]

It is the same with Black Americans when moving to Africa countries, they become richer then some africans and live in good neighborhoods

[@sonichedge8697]

Cap they already moved with money, Africans made the money here

[@Quinten13]

Imagine a white guy with blue talking about the black experiences. Lmao 🤣

[@kanggeorge4781]

None of the men in the room are Black American with him though. To say “black experience”you’re referring to something specific. They can only speak on their own Haitian, Barbadian, Sudanese experience.

[@_VISION.]

He spittin tho

[@BlackAmericanHomeland]

Most Black Americans if they immigrate to any African Country will have a much higher standard of living than the average local African. I lived, worked and traveled to several African Countries from 1994-1996.

[@ferdinandalainessiane6222]

Would they be able to work for the local minimum wages?

[@BlackAmericanHomeland]

@@ferdinandalainessiane6222 The minimum wage in most African Countries are less than $8.00 per (day) therefore if Black American lived in any African country they would be entrepreneurs. Black Americans would have an advantage over local Africans for the fact they have many ideas, contacts, connection & access to many products & services in a first world country that they could introduce to third world countries.

[@BlackAmericanHomeland]

@@ferdinandalainessiane6222 Black Americans will exploit the low local wage of $8.00 per day in any of these African Countries. Black Americans are use to hourly wages compared to Africa's daily wages.

[@francisikwueme1688]

That is mostly due to foreign exchange power or being able to score a high paying company with a big company that has a base or offices in Africa . This is why successful Nigerian immigrants can send money home to buy mansions , land establish businesses . Current exchange rate is $1=765 naira🤷🏻‍♂️

[@danielhernandez-vo9zc]

Yeah cause we have dollars. The same when Hispanic Americans go to Hispanic countries

[@michealjordan5411]

Plus Africans don’t let the urban influences affect the way their kids behave, I hear more American blacks who want to be rappers but African kids who come here want to be lawyers or doctors

[@HARDROCK00]

African people living off the land we built their African American brothers and sisters built

[@successsocial3986]

They built it for you to succeed ....but yall letting them down and blaming others

[@HARDROCK00]

@@successsocial3986 I'm succeeding I've lived a dream.

[@successsocial3986]

@@HARDROCK00 Good for you!! Now spread the same spirit across your communities. Let them know its possible

[@seanmorrissey735]

Right after he says mind set destiny goes into explaining driven...that's mindset. Dude just wants to argue

[@JohnDoe-xf9ly]

Dude just thinks himself the smartest person in every debate. I have not once seen him agree on anything with anyone he debates. You telling me destiny never found one thing to agree with the persons he debates. Like you said he just loves to argue because he can not let someone else be right. In his mind he is right all the time

[@vivek27789]

True... Very True 🤦

[@thermologo3451]

Why do girls without a father end up being strippers ? Is just the mindset ?

[@Melanie-icywynterr1]

Mindset is who you are Driven is what you become It’s a difference silly

[@deviantmoore9744]

​@@Melanie-icywynterr1 That makes absolutely zero sense, Melanie. Being driven is a direct result of your mindset.

[@marieduran6286]

Families are considered where your mindset comes from, their values, morals, loyalty, integrity, and of course, love is what instill values and motivation in people.

[@Benjiemation]

Getting the funds in poor nation to get out is easier if you aren’t homeless or dirt poor in said country. I doubt my parents would’ve made it out of haiti in the 80s without the support they had. But that also gave them motivation to succeed and pressured us the same way

[@mintoandfable9509]

That’s the point destiny is making, it’s not the fault of the “African Americans” that they have a mindset that lacks drives as they come from a background that doesn’t push values that equate to success where as the “African” families that are already more likely to have values that equate to success as they come from a driven background are going to outperform the “African Americans”

[@josifish4]

It's simple work ethic call it what you want but some cultures have it in abundance, some do not. That simple

[@axogablencet]

@@josifish4 If that's the case, then why do they make the comparison between recent immigrants from African nations and the descendants of American slaves? Why not a direct comparison? Could it be that there are confounding factors?

[@josifish4]

@hollowjasper3451 yes. Lack of work ethic from American families. It's really that simple

[@germaineguilavogui5681]

I agree Africans are totaly a hard workers

[@israeljudite8434]

I remember the US government Destroyed black walled street.

[@mizzou1016]

I remember the people of the us electing a black man as a president but let’s bring up crap from decades ago.

[@thetruedoctrineofchristnet7473]

​@@mizzou1016The point is this is what they have done for years and still do. Many of our peoples blood have been shed just for us to have rights ad the fight still exists!!

[@Flourish_today]

Stop crying over the past. Wall Street or not, get up and work.

[@raynellmoore68w]

@@Flourish_todaytell that to the Jews 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@WakandaleezaRazz]

I remember Tulsa was rebuilt within a couple years but yall leave that part out LMFAO. anything to scream “oh lawwwwwwd we be oppressed n shiiiii”

[@sircartier5523]

Blue hair dude is crazy asl when i came to america i lived in the projects bottom of the bottom now i live in a 850k home and my african american neighbors still live in those projects today. Hes a white dude tryna undermine african struggles

[@PatBatJr.]

Annoys the shit outta me talking on our behalf

[@seeker2984]

Exactly

[@StopTheLiess]

Right, this is why I can't sympathize for AA anymore. They lie and complain too much. Excuses doesn't help you improve , it just gives you reasons to stay stuck.

[@omzy8700]

That’s what pissed me off ,it’s the fact they believe that every African that came To the US that succeeded is because of their wealth when most African that came to the US were not rich at all but started from the button of society ,my dad started with nothing but hopes ,he did very physical jobs until he was able to bring my mum in the US and so when I was born ,I learnt about the struggle had and the jobs they had to do in order to feed us , that’s why me and my sister worked very hard

[@goobi7071]

I don't believe you lol

[@radchad992]

Culture is a mindset. They exist in a circular motion but if the problem was oppression you wouldn’t be able to say an African is way better off. Thus you’re left with family structure, environment, and choices which are all direct outcomes of culture and mindset

[@slouischarlesYT]

No dummy. You're comparing elite families, those that move to America, vs African Americans who all 3 branches of government and intelligence agencies explicitly tried to destroy. The main driver of wealth in America is your home. African Americans were not allowed to participate in that which is why their wealth is MUCH lower than the average American.

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

Isn't this dumb because the culture sprouted from the oppression? Did black americans just blip into existence during the 1970s or were their generations of people already their who were forced into poverty and used to ton working for less?

[@tomj1676]

But the past opression has a big impact on all of this right? (for the americans)

[@nicholeweltanschauung8245]

Why don't we see Africans thriving socially and economically in their own countries then? Why are Africans imigrating from their countires if their culture is already solid enough and the mindset Is already there?

[@moonie1825]

​@@nicholeweltanschauung8245 they do, not all of them but the game is the ones that are usually thriving in africa are the same ones that are going to move to america legally.

[@gamasb8222]

I came from Africa. Worked hard graduated from engineering school and and been an engineer for last 15 years. My daugher started college at age 16. My sons already talking about of becoming soft engineer and mechanical engineer. The difference between African Americans and Africans is discipline.

[@hayskig1226]

Africans families that come to the US have the same driven mindset as Asians, Middle Eastern and Indians.

[@aerabellabeau2155]

Nah it's a culture difference and mindset. My broke ass parents came here from a hut in Africa and couldn't speak English but they beat our asses everyday to get good grades and work hard and avoid bad crowds. We started off in one of the worst communities and now we're in one of the best. We are more hardworking and driven . Both my parents worked 2 jobs and i started working at 16. We had goals and understood what it would take for us to get it. Hardwork not crying about the difficulties of our lives. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[@askellpositive]

Something African Americans have been doing since yesterday

[@rlroark2457]

Why couldn't your parents stay in their homeland and achieve the same success?

[@chriscolombie4135]

@@rlroark2457 because our homeland are sometimes in far more complicated situations,for example I am a Cameroonian I am also anglophone (it’s a bilingual country) we were in a literal civil war because the country favor francophones and even with a degree you are pretty much jobless, there is also a limited amount of career to pursue and the few ones you can are expensive but risky, we flew away from the war by requesting refuge and we worked day and night to achieve our goal because we have no choice like we can’t bounce back and if we fail most African parents will literally beat the living shit out of you and you will end up back in you village picking groundnuts with your grand aunt or something

[@rlroark2457]

@@chriscolombie4135 Everything you've stated is why Black Americans are so special. Imagine life as a Black American during the 1600s, 1700s, and 1800s. Enduring slavery, fighting in wars, and fighting for civil rights in their new homeland (America) to make it the country it is today. Without the many of sacrifices of Black Americans, .Black Immigrants would not be able to come to America for a better life. A lane was paved for them. The hard work was already done by Black Americans.

[@chriscolombie4135]

@@rlroark2457 do you think you were the only once fighting wars , your ancestors fought wars not you, stop using that as an excuse, my dad has experienced colonialism first hand and my grandad was a runaway slave from ww2 does that make us victims , we acquired independence in 1972 but even then you won’t see people blaming their issues on slavery, slavery is the past , your ancestors fought slavery, now you’ve thousands of opportunities but instead you wake up to march and speak about how marginalized you’re

[@shawnharvey75]

Why are so many non-Black people so obsessed with African Americans? Can someone please explain that to me.

[@user-tt7rc2cg1o]

Social currency, its mostly people circle jerking about how great they are for putting the poor poc's on a pedestal. And also probably a defense mechanism since American blacks will jump/stab you at random so they try to pander to them

[@Trae884]

They hate us because they ain't us. They love our culture and make millions off of it, but they still haven't grown past their dislike for dark skin.

[@bigahk1047]

Jealousy and thinking they'll fit in with their jesus lookalikes 🤷🏾‍♂️😂...its funny cause we really dont think about them at all

[@marcuscole1994]

Because black Americans were not suppose to survive.

[@audiofeinz5754]

Its interesting stuff

[@dsmb00st11]

African last name will get you hired

[@CrystalVanherpeen]

While u choose to keep ur slave masters name

[@BalinguiTrailer]

😂 I know right

[@KabemboKalembwe]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@BalinguiTrailerIt’s almost refutable but I’ve gotta say my grandparents migrated to the US (Chicago specifically) in the mid 70s my father recalled a time when a Nigerian local was putting up residential properties for sale and my father had approached him (bare in mind my father is a US born citizen however is a seed of immigrant parents ) originally the guy looked inquired but the following day a white man in a formal attire asked for the name of the owner of the property … long story short the fool sold it the oppressor

[@AshaMae]

That was an excellent point and I've never thought of it that way. If an African American family moves from the U.S. to another place they likely have a different mindset than someone who stays in the same hood and is complacent wit their situation. I'm positive there are millions of complacent Africans in Africa that have no drive.

[@quanyintv]

This also doesn't take into account generational trauma and the systemic removal of the father figure/ breaking down the family dynamic

[@whoneedslovewhenyouhaves..859]

cry

[@Melanie-icywynterr1]

Ask AFRICANS WHY AFRICA LOOK LIKE THAT IF THEY ARE SO MUCH BETTER?? They are the majority in Africa with all those driven smart people why Africa collectively look so bad??

[@doomerhumor5479]

lol yeah black Americans did it to themselves

[@Christian-uj1mq]

😂😂 That’s definitely an African American thing. In Africa the only niggas with 3-5 baby mommas are the rich old men. Never understood how u African-American women let urself become baby momma number 3 by a broke boy 😂

[@nataliewalton5118]

I'm black but to blame the government for men leaving their families is ridiculous

[@sidneyblack1036]

Immigrants are also given rights and resources that American citizens don’t have access to.

[@chidimmachristopher3709]

Which are??

[@ree2012]

Why did you flee your homeland and slum to live off of a country Black Americans built?@@chidimmachristopher3709

[@danifranc7011]

Facts!

[@chrisper7527]

Huh?

[@randomhoe2450]

Like what? Genuine question

[@nerdybynatureSD]

All this talk about black Americans but not a single black American in the room 🙄

[@Battle_One]

It's an academic debate. They don't actually give a shit. Buy still get all riled up for some reason.

[@Blockstar38]

We didn’t need to be… he hit it spot on💯🎯

[@PamBeesly9545]

Rent free

[@TheRenegadeStarr]

An IMMIGRANT being compared to a BORN AND raised American is just stupid. Notice no one compares Europeans on a visa attending college in the USA to European American white kids who didn’t go to college.

[@emptyhad2571]

My parents immigrated from Sudan and came here to Canada where I was born in 2006. It’s a cultural thing to get good in school other wise you get a beating. This has driven me to do good in school and I don’t see myself as African Americans. I have a job and I’m 16 and work hard just like my parents who also work hard. My dad has brought many Sudanese here to Canada and they are more proper and hard working then your average Canadian in Winnipeg.

[@nishashawn2021]

Great, you proved this guy's point. Had they dropped you off in a American inner city to be raised you would have witnessed the vast differences between the two environments.

[@T33roy007]

You can’t compare Canada to the USA big difference unless your comparing yourself to black people who came from the underground rail road or when the British brought blank people who fought for them in the revolution

[@hamhyper3633]

Because they know you're not going to compete against white folks, they know you're not

[@akanbikhalid6928]

As an African, Dest is sooo wrong... its not easier, we just have different drives, more to lose

[@jerrygraves6531]

Black Americans are more driven than Africans

[@rlroark2457]

But why not have a drive to fix your homeland and make conditions better there?

[@deb0rahh]

@@rlroark2457 hey hello, I’m an African. I see ur question as genuine so i will answer genuinely and i will only speak for Nigeria as i am Nigerian and i have grown up there. Nigeria (and most systems in Africa tbh) are corrupt to its very core. They are rotten. And if i am going to be an honest person both the people and the government are to blame, more so the government though. They are cruel. This is not representative of every nigerians perspective its just mine. The next question naturally is “Why did we pick these leaders in the first place?” Good question, we did not. They put themselves there because of how influential and wealthy theyve become from our own resources. Fraud, money embezzlement, tax evasions you name every form of corruption under the sun, our leaders have done it better than the average human being. And there isnt any consequences for their actions cuz almost all forms of authority are in on it. Including the authorities responsible for taking these people to jail. You see, trying to make the system better is like trying to count each and every grain of sand our planet. Technically its doable but if we are going to be honest, would you really count each grain of sand in this world? You will be what? exhausted. See where I’m going? Everyone in my country has exhausted all their drive on trying to make the country better but our so called “leaders”make it a living hell for many of us. So much so that our drive rn is to leave the country and find hope somewhere else. Some people in africa have that drive to make the country better and they are blessed for that, but their efforts unfortunately will be in vain cuz theres always someone powerful that doesn’t want that change because of the benefits they get from being corrupt. Try to make a change? Suddenly, you were in a car crash or funny enough you become like one of them. Corrupt and rotten. The drive for most is dead. We are tired of fighting, we are exhausted and we want peace of mind. Hence we move to other favourable countries that allow us to grow.

[@new_to_planet4424]

@@deb0rahh Spot on comment!! 🎯🎯💯💯 Thank u!!

[@Timianospeech]

Facts we just take our lives more seriously and let’s break it down a big in Africa when you are poor there is no Jordans and Louie bags where as poor here can have both there is no 7k tax help every year for having kids we have to understand reality with zero fall back, poor in Africa is trash water holes in shoes same clothes by necessity poor in the us is very different

[@bbvrecords-east366]

As a African they were talking rubbish

[@asiyaahmed7691]

Im an african immigrant with master's degree from a top university. All of our parents instill in us to focus on education in STEM and to move back to africa and open businesses.

[@MichaelBryannn]

Destiny is really good at being a fresh breathe of air sometimes

[@Titantitan001]

A fresh breath of a fart maybe

[@bradleylawless9595]

This is one the stupidest shit he’s ever said. He says a lot of stupid shut

[@feat132]

@@Titantitan001 I feel sorry for you and that you can’t see the forest for the trees. You need to remove your head from your you know what.

[@lumbermill8588]

I know a ton of African Immigrants, they came from literal huts with straw roofs. Destiny has no fucking clue what he is talking about. I"m sending them this clip so they can have a good laugh. lol Destiny claiming its slavery and racist laws from a 100 years ago is what is keeping the black man down in today's world... Wait until this midwit learns about the colonization of Africa and what it actually meant. Sneako is right, its all about the mindset. These immigrants who see an opportunity or a chance take it and they fucking run wild with it, meanwhile Americans (of all race) have given up thinking its just too hard. Relationships, schools, finances, everything... Millenials and Gen Z, fore the most part, have given up.

[@freppy06]

Yeah but his argument makes no sense.The idea of American racism is predicated on skin color ALONE. Admitting that MONEY and NOT COLOR is the dominant factor in the American experience completely invalidates the systemic racism argument. That's what conservatives have been saying all along. That's the beauty of the free market. You may think capitalism is cold, but it sets up innovation and doesn't care about demographics. It's an amoral system. It can only reflect the individual character of the user. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Financial success comes from knowledge and mindset, which is most strongly influenced by environment, i.e culture.

[@itsjustmechill.5292]

That's literally the difference of mindset. Your grandparents had it rough but if you have the mindset to succeed and not let things hold you back then you will do better. So just being black isn't the problem.

[@cadenceew7933]

Part of that can come from where you grow up. Surrounding yourself with high achievers is a good marker for success. Hence why mindset is dependent on someone’s background. It’s a numbers game because, most people stay in the same economic class as their parents. I wish it was just “the mindset”, but that doesn’t even explain 1/10th of it.

[@Stunt877]

Yes being black isn’t the problem but being black and a American is the problem. I strongly believe if black Americans got out of America they would be way better off. It doesn’t matter where they go as long as it isn’t aligned with America

[@onhn2655]

​@@Stunt877africans in Africa aren't thriving

[@israeljudite8434]

@@Stunt877we don’t need any of these ppl that need us 💯

[@DavidSantos-ix1hu]

The struggle and upbringing is different, a driven hard working family will make harder working children they see the come up ,the sweat and tears for them to be a better place and strive to do better for themselves and the family.

[@aba637]

He’s speaking on something he has no idea on

[@calebplain3956]

“It’s not a mindset, it’s a highly driven family” make it make sense 😂 is being highly driven not a mindset?

[@BOLDsweetVelvet]

When there is only one kid who is highly driven in a family that has no drive at all often gets dragged down with the rest of them. it's a mind set is a part of it but if the family you come from does not have that mind set you r more likely to fail. Highly driven is a mind set, it's a culture, it's a life style, it's habits that you form, it's discipline, its the people you surround yourself with. Changin g your mind set alone does not equal highly driven.

[@bumbaclaat1989]

THANK YOU! He thinks he’s smart talking fast enough and no one will catch him out 😂😂😂

[@marteza654]

A highly driven family that had to move to America and if they get in one mistake or one trouble they will be deported back to their Homeland that's the mindset

[@Melanie-icywynterr1]

Driven mean you will do anything to make it.. it’s emotion not mindset bc even if you think it’s stupid and go against who you are you will go thru with it to make it bc your driven .. EVEN IF IT AGAINST YOUR OWN THOUGHTS AND MORALITY -Mindset is more of who you are as a person.. But We know y’all do some strange shit to get over here ijs😏

[@Christian-uj1mq]

Yh family with money trust me. Black people can come from money u know 😂

[@mks1706]

That's mindset Destiny. They were taught a mindset of hard work and success from their family.

[@ozurafgc6235]

There's a difference between being taught that by your environment, and it basically being hammered into you to basically be your life's mission. It's not like black kids in America grow up being told to be lazy and move bricks for quick money, at least not by their family lol

[@mks1706]

@Ozura FGC your environment provides your mindset until you can consciously choose otherwise. Children become the product of their environment, good or bad, more often than not. Because they continue the mindset they inherited. When someone makes the conscious choice to change their mindset, then they change their outcome. It's why you see some people able to change the cycle of abuse, some people able to lift themselves out of poverty, etc. Our environment shapes our mindset, but we choose if we keep it.

[@ProxiProtogen]

And were already rich enough to have the chance to move to an entirely new Country.

[@davidsejas8452]

People like destiny are great at arguing cus they always have to find an excuse for people to give then handouts thats what privileged people that do better tend to be the ones who work for everything they have so stop listen to this pathetic person who only makes excuses

[@Deadpool3E]

This is so dumb. Everyone has a mindset taught by them. Everyone knows if you work hard, you succeed. But simply working hard doesn't guarantee success. Especially if you're in areas where the necessary resources are rare or of ahitty quality. Where you lack the funds to secure such resources and mobility to move to better areas. Where men are being removed by shitty and discriminatory laws and enforcements. I'm not saying it's impossible to succeed even with the cards stacked against you, but simply saying "just pull yourself up by the bootstraps" is so ridiculous that even the general Conservative party rarely play that soundbyte nowadays.

[@user-zn3eo5gu2z]

Yet somehow their homelands are in shambles

[@Meatlover971]

​@@flood9587false , most are from war torn countries and from very high poverty , I know as an African immigrant myself and I can tell you that rich Africans don't leave Africa . If there's war or anything that would let them migrate , they just move to a neighboring country but not outta the continent. The only thing that they do with immigration is to send their kids to Europe's ir America's top schools so that they'll go back and be leaders in Africa.

[@KabemboKalembwe]

@@Meatlover971All valid these Americans are boneheads

[@sm1purplmurderedme583]

america isn’t perfect so

[@Tepaneca]

Like black American neighborhoods

[@mufasa1794]

@@Tepaneca false. Sh df up

[@patriciagriffith7402]

No one, we are not Africans, we are indigenous to this land

[@jeffreyrehder1180]

It's almost like the reason the black population as a whole in the US has a higher crime rate and lower college enrollment rate is because of culture. Not because of skin color

[@njambizzy]

YES!!!!!

[@bradyoung6663]

"Its not a mind set, they're just driven." Talk about double speak.

[@axogablencet]

The only people that are able to immigrate to the US are those that were able to overcome the material conditions necessary to do so. All of those that couldn't do that, obviously don't immigrate to the US. It's a self-selecting sample that's disproportionately exceptional people. Most people are not exceptional, by definition. Yet, a body of people that are normally distributed are being compared to a subset of exceptional people from a different group from another region. And when the normal distribution is out-performed, people accuse the normally distributed group of having an exceptionally poor "mindset".

[@babyelephant3077]

It's a matter of perspective

[@vivek27789]

@@axogablencet Ever heard about thousands of International scholarships which hundreds of American universities provide to under privileged Asian, African and South Students?... Bloody moron 🤦

[@Johnson-io3xf]

Says it’s not a mindset issue then completely attributes the phenomenon to mindset

[@brandyhayes8968]

This is exactly what I’ve been saying for years. They do not want to hear it. It’s no slight against Africans but when they try to compare themselves against AA it’s not even the same playing field and they refuse to see it.

[@cheker008]

He is correct that they are more highly driven but thats exactly the reason why it's the mindset. His argument that its because their great great grandfathers and mothers were slaves is ridiculous. All those things never happened to them and the only reason it still affects their mind is because they are constantly being told that they are oppressed and therefore can't succeed in life while African immigrants are not.

[@Stunt877]

Not true lol you don’t live in reality forget about the slave ancestor thing. Immigrants in general have way more opportunities and options than Americans in general in America. They get everything handed to them so the likelihood of them failing is low despite even if they are poor or rich but a poor American will go through everything to get to that position. It has nothing to do with mindset the system of America is set up for black Americans to fail. You may have a few of them that succeed but if you have a large portion of them I Promise you American will do everything to prevent another black Wall Street. They system is not set up for black Americans.

[@marteza654]

He didn't say anything about slavery see Yall don't even know what is redlining meaning lol

[@StylistecS]

He said nothing about slavery. He said redlining which absolutely did happen to our grandparents and especially great grandparents.

[@anjieadel4694]

@@Stunt877African immigrants don’t get anything handed to them we’re able to succeed in the US cause we are determined if the country we came from were good then we would not need to leave we have bad leaders while in America you have everything my family started of with nothing in this country my parents each had two jobs they worked non stop to provide for us our third year in America we already had a newly built house we don’t get anything handed we work hard and we know where we came from while going to school here the black American were often disrespectful to teachers and hardly focused in class I didn’t let anything distract me cause I wanted to make my parents proud and become successful to help my family in my country

[@cherrystarfireishere8138]

Those africans immigrants are usually the cream of the crop. I know because I went to mostly black magnet school which was free but really hard to get in. A lot of those kids where very educated and had a very strong work ethic because they grew up privileged and also seen some of the worlds worst poverty. They're families back home where usually rich government officials or successful businessmen and sent them off to america to get educated. Out of desperation to not fail there families and not have the same fate as there lower classes, they work there asses off. They always tell me stories about how they lived in luxury and was highly respected. They also told me stories that just a few blocks away they'll see beggars, starvation, poor housing. It's like a constant reminder not to fail and keep there wealth by any means. Those kids had way more pressure on them because there families back home was relying on their success. The same can be said about a lot of asian immigrants as well. They were some the brightest kids i've ever seen.

[@ychanan36]

Black Americans are from the tribe of Judah of the nation of Israel. Africans are Hamites. A big difference

[@tecumseh4095]

Africa has 54 countries.

[@RaymondArthur-qd3on]

U are wrong

[@Marshmellow3971]

Destiny actually took an L here. He said ‘it’s not mindset’ and then proceeded to describe why the family’s mindset is what the difference. That’s what Myron & Sneako were saying, the families of these immigrants and therefore the immigrants themselves are motivated and hard working, therefore they’re successful.

[@ProxiProtogen]

You also have to be rich enough to travel to entitely new country and have the funding to stay and live there. Im not sure if you know this but most Americans and especially Black people dont have money to even attempt something like that.

[@lumbermill8588]

@@ProxiProtogen American Universities love recruiting from Africa be it for sports or Academic scholarships. Most the planet loves sending its people off for western education, a good chunk of those people visiting end up immigrating to the US.

[@HuesoAmarilloAfricana]

@@ProxiProtogen You’re not considering the communal element of Africans. Families will pull resources together to send not just immediate family off to the West but also extended family. “Sou-Sou” is a very common practice within different villages and community organizations in Nigeria for example to help support fellow members of a particular group/ community. All of this is still a mindset-based thing. Our dispositions and conditioning is what will determine how we navigate life. Unfortunately, for those of us born in the West and especially falling under the category of “ADOS” or “FBA”… we’ve adopted “White man’s thinking…” aka “me, myself, and I” aka “every man for himself”… which are not Eastern ideologies. Sure, some Africans who migrate to other continents are of a higher socioeconomic background via their respective home-countries… but I’d argue that the majority were not, and it is evident in the fact that the #1 way that so many people in different African countries survive are from billions of dollars of remittances “sent back home” by the same folks who are immigrants in the West TO help the families they left behind survive with basic needs, attend school, start businesses, etc. I promise you that the truly wealthy Africans, holiday in the West/ own property for longer visits BUT their primary home is their place of origin since it is FAR more comfortable to be Black in Africa with a lot of resources than in the West, where you can’t predict when racism will impact you, regardless of your class and education. #TeamAbundanceMindSet …no matter the circumstances… no matter the history… no matter how determined “others” try to work against you; they’re not God so f*** em.

[@waveyjunior]

Its not only the „mindset“ tho. I think you didn’t understand the full point

[@Marshmellow3971]

@Prince Pornhub Then the point wasn’t articulated very well. He could have just said “All African immigrants are rich before they come to America.” , which is kind of a half-truth. If that’s what he wanted to say. He talked about mindset and behavior though, which conceded the point to Myron.

[@Drega001]

Sis low-key called black Americans lazy. Redlining was thr least of what happened

[@chidimmachristopher3709]

They actually are lazy and ignorant

[@HARDROCK00]

Red Lining still happening

[@briancannon3987]

Ppl who grew up here take it for granted. This is the place to start your own business

[@BuildIslamFaith]

My parents came from Africa to America and did what they have to do. Now me and all my brothers n sister finished college and helping our parents. It’s not that Africans are privileged it’s because we work hard and know what it’s like to actually struggle

[@jasonjewell1667]

My last job I worked at was very diverse. I worked there for almost 15 years. I am a white and I can say with confidence that the hispanics and the few guys who were from Nigeria and Uganda worked circles around all the other white and black people in the company. Completely different levels of drive and mindset. They even spoke very broken English so it made the learning even harder. Still they out performed everyone.

[@francisikwueme1688]

Facts I am Nigerian and I approve

[@getemmoyong9755]

The only difference is One wants to achieve success from Hardwork and one wants Success handed to them...

[@QueLoKevin]

“It’s not their mindset, it’s their drive” also known as mindset. Tf did I just listen to???

[@deegottagun]

The difference is that here in the us they’re coddled

[@saintjerry5363]

So an African immigrant who lived in a hut built with sticks has it going better than a African American dude in America? Press x to doubt

[@Shannon627]

An African immigrant who lives in hut with sticks is not migrating to the US ONLY the most affluent and/or educated people in a country are able to make it here.

[@calebgao6931]

​@@Shannon627 oh boy you have no idea how many of them are crossing the boarder

[@calebgao6931]

​@@Shannon627 also this argument that the ones that are able to made it to the US are the top echelon in their home country doesn't disprove that they are still at the same starting line as African Americans if not a little bit behind due to cultural and language barrier.

[@Shannon627]

@@calebgao6931 I was speaking about Africans who live on a different continent and you’re bringing up Mexicans who are hopping the border with ease 🙄

[@calebgao6931]

@@Shannon627 you think the ones that are crossing the Mexican border illegally are only Mexicans? You are so naive lol.

[@therealmaskriz5716]

Destiny says it isnt mindset bit then says its the family mindset😂😂😂😂

[@Gooner5]

He’s still right. It’s only the mindset of the IMMIGRANTS. The whole of Africa didn’t just up and move to the US only the select few did. It’s wrong to compare the top % of Africans coming to the US to the whole black American population

[@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865]

Black Americans are still more successful than all of africa and caribbean. You can’t compare first world people to third worlders.

[@vivek27789]

@@Gooner5 That's biggest cope ever.

[@Stunt877]

@@vivek27789 It’s not a cope an immigrant in general will have more success and options in America than your average American. They get everything handed to them in America so they better succeed

[@skrellb9659]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Stunt877You and that other dude are such victims it’s astonishing. Being American born you have way more perks and privileges over the immigrants.

[@chriswalsh6893]

That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve heard Destiny say

[@hillaryryhal3736]

I talk to a man in Africa and it is the mind set they think differently

[@eldel2643]

The Destiny is arguing his point to 2 black people who’s family’s come from poverty, and still experienced racism while living in America but despite those barriers worked hard and found success. My Haitian parents are immigrant their English still isn’t perfect but they found success in America. Haiti is literally the poorest country in North America. Haitians are ambitious and driven. They don’t give a damn about racism.

[@FYahooo]

By the way legal Slavery ended in Africa After it ended in America and the UK. Actually Slavery is still a business in some parts of Africa.

[@samanth.]

True, still controlled by white man

[@CrystalVanherpeen]

Which part I hope your country

[@FYahooo]

@@CrystalVanherpeen Sudan, the Middle East, Russia

[@ProHunter_invencivel1]

It's all in the mind no matter how you want to dress it to sound smart.

[@JanaeAlexis95]

Honestly true all of the Nigerians I went to school with were in honors and AP classes , parents were very strict and didn’t play about grades

[@ernestagwu7728]

Me as an African immigrant watching with a 1 parent household and broke asf

[@StopTheLiess]

😂 😂 😂 these people clearly never been to Africa.

[@mr.duckybeatsbruh9173]

Bro literally said “no it’s not the mindset” and then proceeded to explain why it’s the mindset 💀

[@thermologo3451]

Its not the mindset. Minset meand that there is no outside influence. Put the African immigrants through the black American slave experience and the outcome would be the same

[@mr.duckybeatsbruh9173]

@@thermologo3451 African Americans now have no slave experience 💀 I see what you’re saying but if African Americans were at a disadvantage because of their skin color than African immigrants wouldn’t be able to come over here with less money and do better than them. It’s a mindset. You ever heard the experiment where they put a lid on a jar of fleas and when the lid is removed they will only jump as high as the the top of the jar? Even though they are capable of much more. This is the same scenario. Obviously fleas are dumb but people are smart. Any black individual could be a scholar or an entrepreneur as many are. But the reason a lot of the community is still doing poorly is mindset and also how they’re being raised.

[@mr.duckybeatsbruh9173]

@@thermologo3451 what my original point was is that he said “it’s not the mindset” and then proceeded to say “it’s the families you come from and your drive” which is essentially the same thing. Someone’s drive would come from their mindset

[@Negro.spiritual]

​@mr.duckybeatsbruh9173 no he explained the african IMMIGRANT already had the means if you are to come an african american to lets say a liberian then you compare them to the AVERAGE liberian in liberia not an exceptional liberian who had the means to move to america

[@mr.duckybeatsbruh9173]

@@Negro.spiritual that’s cap. I have a coach that is poor af. Bro came here from Jamaica. Tattered clothes and shoes. But he’s always so happy. Everybody likes him. I have another friend that moved here from Albania which obviously not Africa but he came here with $100 and now he makes at least a coupon hundred thousand a year because he owns a restaurant and invests his money

[@BronzeSista]

Let me say this, I have never had a African Doctor in my life, only Black Americans.

[@BalinguiTrailer]

they go back to africa working

[@ahmedsalah5364]

African Americans have not identify or cultUre but African immigrants have culture and identity and have their own language

[@ahmedsalah5364]

African Americans have not identify or cultUre but African immigrants have culture and identity and have their own language

[@BronzeSista]

@ahmedsalah5364 We are Americans, not Africans. We can't go back to a place we didn't come from. Our ancestors were Africans. We do have a Western culture and we speak English.

[@Lex.aubreyy]

Me too!! They delusional. They think that little town they live in is the entire black American population 🤣🤣

[@jordanhill5425]

plus most immigrants come over here with both parents in the house. A father and a mother are very important in a child's life.

[@sejalmhatre2114]

Ok but one thing these guys were surely missing is the perspective towards education between these 2 communities, the upbringing, the culture. The reason why Asian, Indian Subcontinent and African communities succeed because unlike their west counterparts the parents don't say hey son if you aren't able to do it just stop it don't pressure urself, do whatever you like, move out and live by yourself. The parents keep their children in check that's the reason why they succeed.

[@deathitself6985]

They also have parents more often to begin with. 67% of black kids under 18 in the US are living in fatherless homes

[@350BMW09]

@@deathitself6985That’s a lie. The CDC debunked that BS years ago.

[@juantwotree5710]

Blue haired dude ain't fully wrong. But as an individual, don't squander your advantages

[@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865]

Immigrants need to build their nations.

[@whoneedslovewhenyouhaves..859]

​@@somaliagainstpanafricanism4865 you build yours Mr Somalian pirate 🤣

[@user-lg3rx2ko5g]

He’s telling the truth whether people want to accept it or not. It’s not about mindset or skin color. You can compare poor whites to rich Asians the same.

[@Dai9754]

Part of what he said was true, but yes it is a mindset, there are poor people who grew up poor living in poverty and they got out, they never stayed in that same cycle type mindset that wouldn't have gotten them nowhere, just because a person grew up poor doesn't mean they can't succeed in life, he's just making up excuses lets be real

[@tommyfischer4666]

Attitude is everything! There’s no excuse for failure. We can be successful if we want to.

[@fatmanchew909]

African immigrants or visitors have love in their heart. They will literally give the shirt off their back even if you can afford one.