After Brexit: Can the UK really go it alone? | To the Point

For the first time in its history, a member nation has left the European Union. But can the UK really go it alone? And how will it change the EU?
Guests: Tom Nuttall (The Economist), Jon Worth (blogger), Tanja Börzel (political scientist)
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[@davidgray1550]

Scotland isn't a region of England. It's a country that's in a union. That's different from the regions of Spain so there's no issue.

[@josephwallis8965]

Well, Scotland is not a recognised nation by UN. I know a small number of nations are not recognised by UN but where does it say Scotland is ??

[@samuelbcn]

The Spanish constitution recognises Catalonia and the Basque Country as 'nationalities'. Surely a nationality implies the existence of a nation from which it comes.

[@woodennecktie]

if you take the current scottish politicians as example , the scotts are lappuppies

[@fitzstv8506]

@@woodennecktie If you take the current English Conservative Politicians the English are blind lap puppies.

[@michaelhoodleeder]

English people see Scotland as region under the thumb . This attitude lost them an empire. I hope it will also lose them the Scottish cooperation. England does not rule the waves in 2021. She needs to be humble and work with people if she wants to prosper. You can't just attack people in 2021. You need to work with them . Very sad

[@rubyazofeifa4023]

To be honestly, the UK never "done it alone". They always depended on their colonized countries. Remember the saying "The SUN never SETS on the British Empire...".

[@ffi1001]

That’s because God doesn’t trust the British in the dark

[@colinstephenson5386]

@flyspiderbird every major conflict Britain has had always included soldiers from other countries mostly European countries, Britain only once engaged in a major conflict alone and that was the American war of independence, Britain lost that one ! ,,,,,

[@colinstephenson5386]

@flyspiderbird I didn’t say Britain only achieved power because of the help received from elsewhere, that my friend is your own words , I’ve no idea why you’ve mentioned the Industrial revolution? , it wasn’t an armed conflict you know , although the luddites got a bit uppity ?

[@martinrye712]

@@colinstephenson5386 check your history if Britain had not been fighting the French and there allies at the same time they could have used all of there armed forces in the war of independence.then the outcome would probably have been different. Also most wars have been fought with the use of allies!

[@starlite-sw5wr]

That was for the Spanish empire.

[@LanielDevy]

25:24 - "Bye bye, tschüß!" - Pretty much sums up the EU's position towards the UK right about now.

[@randomguy8647]

Lol

[@PWingert1966]

is that pronounced Sheisskopf? 👌😉🤪👍

[@LanielDevy]

@@PWingert1966 ?

[@PWingert1966]

@@LanielDevy Perhaps I should be more polite and suggest that Britain (At least the entitties promoting each side of the brexit) figured they wouldn't have to trade with Europe on Europes terms and could instead have their cake and eat it too by controlling the trade relationaship? Which make them at least wolly headed. even uf they don't have manuer in there.

[@jabhutt1013]

Someone's salty:)

[@richardforshaw2782]

I don't know about anyone else, but for me watching three people with the same point of view trying to debate is riveting. The best bit though has to be the presenter, he brings so much balance to the show, bravo 👏

[@davewebb2936]

Would having the same point of view mean that they were telling the truth. Or does it mean they were lying?

[@davewebb2936]

@@richardforshaw2782 So you couldn't tell whether they were telling the truth because they weren't challenging each other! Why would they need to challenge one another over a deal that's been done? They were talking about the effects of the deal, didn't you understand that? They were challenging each other on whether Scotland could rejoin the EU, weren't they? It wasn't journalism as you mean it, it was a discussion, you do know the difference, don't you? There's nothing wrong with saying that you didn't understand what they were talking about and that's why you couldn't tell whether they were telling the truth. I'm sure everyone will understand.

[@richardforshaw2782]

I used the word journalism because 3 of the 4 people sitting around the table having a "discussion" are journalists. Also they are having a "discussion" on pro EU broadcaster Deutsche Welle, which might have something to do with journalism seeing as though it's a 24 hour news channel. The show itself is nothing more than a one sided opinion piece, which i was pointing out in my original post. And if you were to add just one voice in to the mix that has a positive view on brexit, perhaps someone like...former Bank of England Governor Mervyn King. Now i know he might not be quite the same calibre as the rest of the panel, but he could help you understand that now the two sides have a deal, it will take at least 25 years before we know if brexit is for better or worse. So in the meantime if we are to predict the future, let's do it maybe just maybe, with a little bit of balance.

[@chrisdechristophe]

Sarcasm much?

[@akinadegbenro7958]

I agree Richard... There is lack of objectivity. They all seem to be looking at it from EU perspective. But there's always two sides to a coin. What about the EUs problems? And the volume of trade that would have been lost between Germany and the UK without a deal?

[@erikdekter2384]

Let me grab some popcorn before I'll read the comments.🤣

[@sudarshan3965]

I eat all of my popcorn while watching usa news.

[@sudarshan3965]

@Googles Evil I guess freedom of speech is not for everybody. That's a sad world we live in.

[@ascgazz7347]

Grab an intelligent contribution while you’re there. 👍🏻

[@erikdekter2384]

@@ascgazz7347 Please don't tell me what to do.

[@epicspaces9434]

@@sudarshan3965 I ate all my cookies while watching usa news too.

[@Telluwide]

The UK went from having the best EU deal in history, literally bespoke to the worst deal in its history. They've been complaining for years about not being able to shape the EU and change it from within, but they had. They set precedents by opting out of the Euro and Schengen. Those alone shaped it more than anything else in EU history. And now, it's all gone.....

[@davew4998]

No, it's not all gone. We have, thank God.

[@davew4998]

We couldn't shape freedom of movement, which was the deal breaker.

[@sixfootbear]

Net contributors to an EU that they had never signed up for. Half of the total immigration coming from twenty seven rich western countries.Laws made outside the UK that were imposed on UK citizens. 74.2% UK turnout on the EU referendum.52% of the 100% who voted chose to leave and regain their sovereignty.

[@chudchadanstud]

You know what's hilarious? EU nations can't negotiate their own terms on the vaccine. If the want to order more doses they have to go through Brussels. Germany got a lot of flack for going outside Brussels but then Brussels looked aside pretty quickly. Why? The President is Germany. Let's not even talk about how the EU China deal was pushed by Germans for Germans under a German run EU. Hilarious.

[@chudchadanstud]

@Buckets 666 Oh no! Armageddon is coming. Didn't you Jehovah's Witnesses say Tories will sell the NHS to America? Didn't you say Dover will be packed with lorries?

[@garyoconnor6131]

The interesting aspect for me has always been the inflated self of importance the British have of themselves and the rampant exceptionalism they possess, in particular the English. They see themselves as equals to major powers like the US, EU and China. I find this very amusing, good luck to them, they will within a half decade come to realise that together is better.

[@joshbentley2307]

No we don’t. Which British person said that?

[@gabe2552]

They will overtake the planet now without all those east europian workers that only chained down the british. Now they will jump off the Sofa and get the future in the own hand. :)

[@gabe2552]

@@joshbentley2307 well, they act like that. It does not have to be said. We all see that.

[@joshbentley2307]

@@gabe2552 see what?

[@joshbentley2307]

@@gabe2552 not wanting to be in the EU doesn’t mean we think we’re a superpower 😂

[@dylanhunt4303]

THAT GUY JUST SAID : BoJo was being economical with the truth.... he was so wrong. BoJo doesn't even know what truth is... he just says what ever keeps him in power.

[@user-nf9xc7ww7m]

At least Johnson didn't hold a rally encouraging his followers to storm Parliament. 😉 I feel we are setting a new low bar...

[@ascgazz7347]

@@user-nf9xc7ww7m Boris has The BBC News for that.

[@peanutnutter1]

Firstly, it's 'says' Secondly, 'BoJo' has been elected for 5 years, that's what keeps him in power.

[@iceman_s2729]

Actually, many politicians say whatever keeps them in power. Both left and Right

[@dylanhunt4303]

@@peanutnutter1 Firstly, thanks for the correction. Secondly, if he doesn't keep all the factions backing him happy, they will get him ousted very fast.

[@liamtaggart57]

No,england and wales can try but we ,in the north of Ireland and Scotland ,didn’t vote for brexit

[@lilbrit1019]

*northern ireland you git

[@blackpig52]

@@elyrexo Scotland is a separate nation

[@angusmacmillan5365]

More people have voted to remain in the UK than voted to remain in the EU

[@liamtaggart57]

@@angusmacmillan5365 And you won 🤙😂😂😂😂

[@blackpig52]

@@angusmacmillan5365 Scotland voted to remain in the UK after being told that was the only way to stay in the EU, they were lied to,enjoy your independence

[@captain_context9991]

A lot of people talk about what the EU will lose without the UK, but really... Its not like England is taking their island and sailing away. They will still have to deal with the EU just as before, only now on far worse terms. OBVIOUSLY far worse terms. Because its not like the EU likes Englands attitude. And its not like the UK has a choice in the matter. They will have to take whats on offer, and thats that.

[@garyb1036]

The EU loved taking our money for years though didn't it?its a big world out there, lots of country's to trade with, i personally cant wait to see the EU crumble, which it will.

[@anggasurbakti8269]

@@garyb1036 you get your money back, especially your farmers, also education. Now it's almost guaranteed food prices will be more expensive. Enjoy

[@garyb1036]

@@anggasurbakti8269 you will also have to find somewhere else to fish ENJOY! 😂

[@gianisain8880]

@@garyb1036 your really tick mate!

[@garyb1036]

@@gianisain8880 I'd learn how to spell first before you call people thick kid.

[@lohphat]

As a native Californian, may I offer some perspective. Santa Catalina island is 23 miles off the coast near Los Angeles and was famous as a luxurious place to visit with its grand pavilion in its small harbor where famous big-bands of the jazz era played. It takes over an hour to reach it by ferry. England is 22 miles from the coast of France and can be traversed in 20 minutes by train.

[@lohphat]

@Rallan You apparently can’t comprehend I was comparing traversing the distance between landmasses. Thank you demonstrating your intelligence.

[@tomoshea7230]

@@lohphat we all know what you were saying the Brits are a bit touchy lately don't listen to them

[@FullaEels]

Spain has consistently stated they would not Veto Scotland's re-entry.

[@bestproto5117]

If spain doesn't wana give catalonia its independence then why do they want a scotland independence!

[@benjaminodonnell258]

@@bestproto5117 Because Scottish Independence is in the EU's supranational interest, but Catalonian independence isn't.

[@joshbentley2307]

But Scotland also needs there own currency to join.... the SNP said they wouldn’t stop using the pound. So there going to not be in the U.K. or EU for at least 10-15 years.

[@lucianocartino5312]

Italy too

[@benjaminodonnell258]

@@joshbentley2307 Scotland already has its own currency, the Scottish Pound, convertible to English pounds on a 1-for-1 basis...😜

[@carokaffee1935]

Well, good luck GB

[@user-pd6bd7ir4z]

A good debate. Would've been better to have it a bit more balanced but yeah pretty spot on there, most arguments.

[@cowbanchalam9725]

Like having a balanced argument with a flat-earther?

[@edwardkelly9184]

Excellent and insightful video. Many thanks to the presenter and participants. Hats off to all present

[@jameswingad3212]

This is the most extraordinary panel. Not one Brexiteer on the panel and the point of this deal is it's a start for much greater separation not a platform for us to essentially rejoin!

[@TruckStopLayby]

I noticed that too. I wonder whether it was by design, or whether they couldn't find a Brexiter to come on and plead their case?

[@pinklickpony]

Yes Rejoin!!!!

[@the0ne809]

Brexit is just a very expensive way to keep immigrants out. That's like the wall with Mexico here but the difference is that the UK's GDP is much smaller than the EU. You guys didn't think this through. Lol

[@OlafPijl]

"The French can no longer fish in British waters" - well, that's definitely not true!

[@graveperil2169]

was pushed back 5 years to stop Macron from vetoing the whole thing

[@Telluwide]

@@graveperil2169 Yeah, in 5 years your waters won't be worth fishing in anyways. Great job!

[@graveperil2169]

@@Telluwide so in 5 years we will start rebuilding them after all the years of EU misrule, some things are worth the wait

[@donhuang9855]

In 5 years time it would be sad for the British to be supplying all the fishes purchase by the EU people because the EU people would be much richer working in the new Financial Center of Europe.

[@khankrum1]

@@Telluwide certainly willl not be with the EU plundering it. If the waters where so valueless? Then why are European fishermen fighting tooth amnd nail to keep it !

[@pepsilight7324]

US and UK now competing for the award "the most effed up country of the year"

[@rutherzheng3981]

Germany will win that award.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Gonna be close.. but the usa has the multi year lead.

[@rutherzheng3981]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 That's what Germans like to say, "My country is bad, but there is always one country worse than me." Typical European arrogance.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@rutherzheng3981 whatever karen, have another wine.

[@graveperil2169]

I think that France being in a riot every weekend would at least get it on the list

[@cassiecallaghan4214]

Wondering what made Tanja Börzel say Spain would veto Scotland when everything we’ve seen in recent years from Spain has indicated that it would not...

[@jam6636]

Because Spain has several independence movements, and one of Madrid main arguments is that if they leave the country they won´t be accepted to the EU immediately. They way more interested in delegitimizing independence movements than helping Scotland

[@pyellard3013]

I think a legal split is different to UDI by Catolonia..

[@speedy7040]

@@jam6636 1. Spain HAS SAID it would support Scotland's entry. 2. If Catalonia left Spain, and consequently EU, and wanted to rejoin EU, then SPAIN, AS AN EU MEMBER would forever veto it - they don't really need any arguments for it . UK is no longer an EU member, so it cannot veto anything. So , as long as Spain remains EU, Scotland 's situations is VERY different then Catalonia's ...

[@jam6636]

@@speedy7040 spain has never said it would support scontland´s entry. the only time an official said it he was kicked off. They are not gonna set a precedent. I don´t think you know how spain works

[@j.obrien4990]

@@jam6636 hasta los españoles no saben como funciona españa.

[@JCSol]

De Gaulle did the UK a huge favorite. They rejected it , and now, it shall suffer. LOL

[@Pier-wy6dd]

Historically speaking, De Gaulle always said that "Europe will be not complete with the UK. He openly refused to grant any form of membership", hence, after decades, he is proven right. This is an historical fact.

[@scaleyback217]

How different it might have been if Churchill had taken up the offer to run France at a time when France consisted of a million jackboots stamping them into the ground.

[@lilbrit1019]

@@Pier-wy6dd I mean De Gaulle didnt want britain to turn its back on the commonwealth less they turn to communism

[@Pier-wy6dd]

@@lilbrit1019 Based on the information given, De Gaulle rejected the UK application several times. At the begin it was C.E.C.A, then E.C.M. developed in E.E.C. before to be European Union. History and changes cannot be exposed in a KZbin comment (it is too long).

[@montumeroe9593]

Great discussion.

[@voodooguy2]

I'm so sad to lose my right to live in Europe. It's not like I was planning to move there, I just loved having that right. Oh, and I'm not too keen on higher prices either.

[@mothsilly1616]

you know that the UK is in Europe, right?

[@voodooguy2]

@@mothsilly1616 Yes, I certainly do know that the UK is in Europe but what has that got to do with my comment of losing my right to live in Europe? Doesn't affect me immediately but would if I wanted to retire in Spain.

[@mothsilly1616]

@@voodooguy2 where do you live?

[@voodooguy2]

@@mothsilly1616 The UK. Just to clarify, when I said "Europe", I should probably have said the EU. Sad that I have lost my right to live/work/retire in the EU. Not saying I was planning on doing that but now I couldn't do that even if I ever wanted to without having to jump through all kinds of immigration hoops. I hate Brexit.

[@malikrahman8649]

If you weren't planning to live there, then fundamentally it hasn't actually impacted you.

[@briansykes2806]

Much of the financial services sector involves money laundering, and hence clauses concerning it will not figure in Trade Agreements.

[@najjee2]

You r soo right and I know that's the only veto Britain has on Brexit. But the EU is aware and guess they won't have money laundering at their door step.

[@thomasjamison2050]

I love the part about 'how it's going to turn sour?" Shouldn't someone who made the deal have known?

[@AnalisaMelanoProfundamente]

I wouln't be so sure about Spain rejecting the idea of Scotland joining back the EU. Catalonia was never a country of its own. also the separatism there is not as serious as it is in Scotland.

[@ChuckAmadi]

Check when Catalonia held the last referendum.

[@archerry6457]

BS

[@donhuang9855]

Spain would mostly likely cheer the Scottish on as a cold revenge for the English taking Gilbraltar.

[@pyellard3013]

@@ChuckAmadi The illegal referendum had as much validity as Yorkshire illegally holding an independent ref that is boycotted by over half the Yorkshire electorate as it's illegal... ..

[@pyellard3013]

@@donhuang9855 Spain clearly wants Gibraltar back but they are hardly obsessed with it...

[@horatio71]

"Can the UK really go it alone?" - seems a little late for the question. Shouldn't the question be "How do we get out of this self inflicted mess?"

[@PWingert1966]

yeah...the EU just said to go to the corner and play with your tallywhacker's

[@marksavage1108]

we sorted of existed for centuries before the eec/eu invented life in 1975. Independence isnt a mess, ask the other Independent countries around the world.

[@countmorbid3187]

@@marksavage1108 😂 You must be an economic genius! Now be quiet and do some research. You're not the great british empire anymore. 😂

[@marksavage1108]

@@countmorbid3187 citizens living in eu member countries 435 million, Commonwealth customers 2,4 Billion with a ````B````. a bigger customer base equals a bigger market and a bigger economic gain. that isnt rocket science, its basic common sense.

[@geheimnis8187]

@@marksavage1108 You can't just base economy on population numbers?? If people don't have money they won't buy anything, also the Commonwealth nations already have suppliers of their own why would they need the UK that is so far away from them? Doesn't make sense. Also the EU is the largest *single market* in the world.

[@Anonimo-xm6kt]

Sctoland has been a different country separated from England as well as Irland. It s not the case of Cataluña which has always been parte of Spain and in the midlle age it has been part of Aragon which is a Spanish "Comunidad"

[@johnorosz7477]

0nce upon a time, the BBC banned fascists from its broadcasts. In 1935, when Oswald Mosley’s British Union was near its peak of popularity, organizing rallies and marches across the country, the corporation stopped allowing him to appear on its programs. The ban, unofficially supported by successive Conservative, Labor and coalition governments, lasted 33 years. Its rationale was straightforward: Mosley’s views were too extreme, his supporters too threatening, and his admiration for foreign authoritarians too strong for him to be allowed a prominent place in the national discourse. A line was drawn between what was acceptable and unacceptable in right-wing politics, and Mosley was on the wrong side of it. By the time the prohibition was lifted, in 1968, he was a bitter old man.

[@peanutnutter1]

There was once a tortoise and a hare, they went to the fair.

[@tsitsnikable]

"The blood is still very hot… It is impossible, and it will be seen later, to ever have the cooperation of the English, the French, the Germans, the Italians, the Austrians, etc. when there are still people who lost their fathers in World War II and their uncles. Is it ever possible to call each other "allies" and mean it? Do not look at things short-sightedly and only for the sake of the Economy. "Nationalism will come to the surface and then… Europe is disintegrating because of Germany!"

[@msms7434]

What does this deal mean? Rich get richer, middle class and the poor get poorer. Like every political event today.

[@Joasoze]

The brits voted for these politicians...

[@AlwaysAC]

When people believe Farage was a man if the people it was always gonna end in tears

[@uroboros4260]

@@Joasoze *the English

[@donhuang9855]

Freedom as a Stand-Alone nation has a hidden high price tag to pay - UK's annual economic yard-stick would be measured in terms of "Happiness", as in Bhutan, instead of the GDP global pecking order.

[@alvarogines6788]

That is mostly what will happen

[@alanmarr3323]

My relations are now already finding difficulties exporting to Europe !

[@djcarlwalker]

What do you mean “already”? Teething problems go away in time they don’t usually get worse. Be honest Alan, you don’t want Britain to succeed now we’re out.

[@daveyturner100]

Apart from some paperwork changes it should be a piece of cake, my brother's are in export import business and they seem to be coping with it

[@yellowgreen5229]

I put in an order for £260 in dec, the British supplier couldn't fulfil it and now they want £40 more and are moving half their business to Spain. Brexshit!

[@daveyturner100]

@@yellowgreen5229 were you importing or exporting ?

[@civis.revixit]

They'll adapt. Not sure about you though. The UK will be forming the CANZUK alliance and will accede to CPTPP in the foreseeable future. There are abundant opportunities opening up from our trade agreements. The UK will soon have FTAs with Australia and New Zealand, then Malaysia and Brunei. CANZUK next, then cptpp.

[@alinemichele7486]

Trade agreement is a disaster. I've tried to order some French products, and the costs of delivery and customs are astronomical.

[@martymcdermott67]

That has nothing to do with the trade agreement. You said the word yourself .. customs. The UK has left the Customs Union and Single Market, The best trade agreement in the world does not negate this. The extra costs you talk about are customs payable. Because the UK is now ... outside the Customs Union! The extra costs are not tariff or quota related.

[@maryreid4273]

Could you find alternative British products, just a thought.

[@Olliebobalong]

The UK has signed 60 trade deals in 2020, during a pandemic, with one being signed with India right now, and one ready to sign with the US. It took 7 years for a Canada EU trade deal, 10 years for an Australian EU trade deal, 15 years for one with Japan and 20 years with China and 35 meetings, and that's apparently what the UK will be "missing'? A 'one size fits all' trade deal is a fragmented and messy way to go about making deals, as all 27 countries have to unilaterally agree, with economies so vast and varying, from Romania to Germany, Spain to Sweden. Its very high and mighty of the Europeans to think there is no world that exists outside of the EU. The EU is dwindling in power and weight, falling from 40% of world GDP to 17% now, and that's a downward trend. The UK is currently forging much closer ties with its English speaking commonwealth among others, not to mention we have a trade deal with the EU and control over our own laws and a national supreme parliament. Its no wonder other member states are jealous. Im a half German, Half English young Brexiteer. Leaving the EU was never about the economy anyway, but its a damn good argument for leaving if it was one. As it stands, EU regulation has meant the EU are trailing the Covid Vaccines, while the UK is leading in numbers vaccinated, with a British developed Oxford vaccine rolling out right now. The UK has vaccinated more people than the rest of the EU, combined. What are we missing again?

[@nautilusshell4969]

1) Of the 60 trade deals that the UK has signed, perhaps you can tell us how many of them differ substantially from the EU deals they were copied from? Almost all of them are copy-and-paste deals based on the agreements already between the EU and the corresponding country. That includes the Canada deal. The Australians have already said that they are concentrating on getting a deal with the EU rather than with the UK and the Indians won't sign a deal unless it allows free movement of people. Somehow, I doubt that the UK is going to open its doors to 1.2bn Indians when part of the Brexit rhetoric complained about the possibility of 80m Turks being able to come to the UK. 2) Perhaps you can outline the deal that the UK is about to sign with the US? The UK may well sign a deal with the US, but it will have to be approved by Congress, and, following the actions that the UK took with regard to the Withdrawal Agreement last year, I doubt that Congress will look favourably on any deal with the UK if they have the slightest suspicion that the UK will renege on the Northern Ireland protocol. 3) The EU is not as powerful as it used to be in relative terms because other parts of the world are getting richer and more populous. 40 years ago, China and South East Asia were relatively feeble. The fact that the UK has left the EU doesn't mean that it is going to reverse that trend. In fact, as it will have less bargaining power in trade negotiations, it's more likely to find it difficult to fight its own corner in future. 4) We always had control over our own laws and our own parliament. If we didn't have control over them, then we wouldn't have been able to withdraw from the EU in the first place. 5) Covid is a problem for a couple of years, Brexit is a problem for life.

[@Olliebobalong]

@@nautilusshell4969 1) so if the deals are the same yet we aren’t paying £350million per week, than that’s only a better thing? The trade deal with Japan for example goes above and beyond the Japan EU one did in terms of food and data. Those trade deals are catered to the British economy on a one to one basis with the negotiating country, like any business deal they are more bespoke and far quicker to produce, hence 60 trade deals in less than 12 months. 2) you and google the US U.K. trade deal. The NI issue was one created but the EU which is now a non-issue, and both the Irish and British government saw eye-to-eye on the issue and struggled to see why it was one in the first place. The Americans know how beneficial a U.K. US trade deal is and quite frankly do not care anywhere near as much as they claim. Even in WTO terms with the US, the U.K. is in a more favourable position as the EU doesn’t even have a trade deal with the US. We have leapfrogged them. 3) relative terms or not, that doesn’t change the fact that the EUs power as a block has dwindled over the decades. If that’s due to rising powers or not, that’s irrelevant. 4) the many EU parliaments were supreme over most domestic and foreign policies set in the U.K., with British courts having to abide To EU courts of consumer, human and animal protections which by the way, have always gone far short in key area vs British laws. Holiday allowances and gender pay neutrality was passed in British courts decades before most other European nations and holiday entitlement has been law in the U.K. for nearly 100 years. What about electric pulse shock fishing which EU trawlers use which devastate marine life? Thank god that’s now illegal in British waters. 5) Covid? We have vaccinated at the time of this comment 2.5 million people. By far and away more than the rest of the EU combined.

[@nautilusshell4969]

@@Olliebobalong 1) We never paid £350m a week. the real figure was much closer to £200m a week. That figure was for our access to the single market and the customs union and our ability to determine the associated rules. Now we'll have to adhere to EU standards without determining what they are. The Japan deal differs minimally from the deal negotiated by the EU with Japan. The only reason it was concluded so quickly last year was because the Japanese threatened to break off negotiations and Liz Truss nearly wet her pants. The major differences regarding food related to stilton cheese (something that the Japanese don't eat). An analysis of the deal indicated that 83% of it was favourable to Japan and only 17% favourable to the UK. I repeat, the trade deals that the UK has signed with 3rd countries are effectively copy and paste imitations of the deals that the EU has already signed. 2) The UK doesn't have a trade deal with the US. The US has also indicated that it's more likely to concentrate on a deal with the EU rather than with the UK. 3) The UK will, unfortunately, be more irrelevant than it can possibly imagine. However it will probably take us between 5 and 10 years to realise this. 4) Enough with the 'whataboutery'. We could have abolished pulse fishing years ago if we had wanted to. EU norms are only a base. National governments have always been able to impose higher standards if they want to in the areas such as labour rights. We might have had paid holiday entitlements for the last 100 years, but the paid holiday entitlement in the UK is only 20 days, I believe, whereas it's significantly more in some other EU states. 5) Covid will probably be gone in 2021. Brexit, however, lives on and on.....

[@nautilusshell4969]

@@KuroiGW2 Erm, if you listen to what's been said, the US has been very clear. They won't even entertain the notion of a trade deal with the UK if the UK threatens all the work they've done in the past associated with NI. Their priority, in any case, is to reach an agreement with the EU, NOT with the UK The incoming President AND members of Congress from both parties have been explicit on the first item. And there have been similar noises on the 2nd from various US trade reps. I can't promise that they'll do that - but that's what they've said they'll do. Perhaps you know better and can provide evidence otherwise?

[@ersidagalliu2507]

Britin is make deals only to show her own people look we are indipedent and we will make good deals now but they will not work beacasue for britain us canada and australia are far far away and the pricer will rise too much if you find a product same price in canada and france the product in canada will came to britain double price than french product because is to far and it take 1 to 2 month to came in france fhe product will came just for 22 to 25 h look every country on earht the biggestyrade deals are with countries neighbor or very near theam look usa 45% of export go to cansda and mexico and 48 % import come from again canada and mexico look australia 60 %export import come from southasia countries and britain 55 %export import from eu china 55 export import from southasia indi pakistan the more devoleped the neighbour countries the more economic rise and good trade deals logisitc reason

[@Russ442100]

Please remember half of us Brits voted to remain .. Millions of us. I love Europe I believe in it.. I am disgusted and disappointed in my countrymen they have been lied too and they have bought it.. Do not abandon us.

[@martins3885]

Boomers betrayed gen z. It is what it is.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

you've had 4 years to move.. ample time. and establish yourselves.

[@petervaughan9111]

@@jonathansimmons5353 as someone who thinks of himself as European before being British, but that doesn't detract from needing to stay living near to the mother in law nor from my dismal language skills that would complicate any potential job hunt on the continent. I want the UK to return to the EU, and I would love to be an EU citizen again, but my life and family are on the UK and thus I'd be staying here (until there's some manner of nationalist uprising)

[@jonathansimmons5353]

@@petervaughan9111 the only nationalistic uprising is either in your head or elsewhere.. "complicate"- i will translate that for you to real world from someone who has lived 23 years in europe... "impossible"

[@petervaughan9111]

indeed, and thus I except to remain living in Britain. A nationalist uprising would be the point at which I reconsider that, it's not something I'm anticipating in the imminent future.

[@peterclareburt4594]

They don't fully understand how services can work. Mainly a service is about applying a level of knowledge at a price. These services are thereby based in intellectual capital as held by individuals residing in.a given location. Already many of these services sold to the EU from the UK have global cost chains and these cost chains are paid out of the sale. This is therefore a series of exports being totalled as a sale currently from the UK and therefore an export. Now we know that sale will have to be made in the EU, which will become a local sale in the EU and not an export for any country. However the cost chain will still exist, and will have to be paid and may well be a ,series of exports some of which will be from the UK. The change in exports will then be the difference between the end sale and the net cost. The intellectual capital will still reside in the UK and other countries. This intellectual capital cannot be easily moved, as you can say a car manufacturing plant, and it can not be so easily be replaced. Further people forget that of the UK financial services some 85% of such services is currently not EU focused. Already these financial services have to work across multiple jurisdictions, the EU is just one of them, and doesn't impact perhaps 85% of the UJ financial services business.

[@thewingedhussar4188]

What the lady is forgetting, is the fact that Spain was against Scotland leaving the UK and joining the EU. WAS because they feared the provinces in their own country might get the same idea. However, that is not the case now. IF they leave the UK, it will be outside of the EU and won't set precedent. Also i think it would then be wise, for the PM of Scotland to go and talk with the EU first. Test the waters as it were.

[@LoEMDubstep]

The scottish got their bargaining chip!

[@therealrobertbirchall]

Scotland is not a province it is the oldest unitary state in Europe

[@thewingedhussar4188]

@@LoEMDubstep amen

[@neckozeusa]

The Scotts have to make their decision first; without anybody's influence. Otherwise, England will use that as foreign interference in intern matters and accuse Scots of treason.

[@ceblsclinic5613]

Where was the other side in this discussion? Why were they not invited? Or did they refuse to attend?

[@miriamllamas224]

Unicorns were not allowed in the studio.

[@bjornsantens9030]

There are no both side when it comes to facts

[@maryreid4273]

@@bjornsantens9030 a debate isn't a debate when they all think the same.

[@user-in9iw5lb8b]

What about Norway 🇳🇴 ? Don’t they have a referendum on the EU in 1994 ?

[@edharris2395]

Tanja's face when the other two are not necessarily agreeing ... priceless

[@gingernutpreacher]

She smiles when the Britain comes worse off

[@edharris2395]

@@gingernutpreacher whats the britain

[@gingernutpreacher]

@@edharris2395 the Britain is like LA atom bomb or LA knob

[@brendancollis9049]

No positive brexit voice in the panel ... would have been much more interesting to hear a balanced debate which this was not

[@angeleyes2c]

I visited a pro-brexit channel today and it's full of scaremongering and ridiculous claims. Don't think you can get a balanced debate with them.

[@colinstephenson5386]

Brendan what positive things would you have liked to hear ? I can certainly see where you’re coming from , I’m sure many people would be interested in hearing a positive reason for Britain leaving the EU ,

[@ammel5789]

@@angeleyes2c You are talking BS. Here you have three europhiles and a remainer economist how balance can the discussion be?

[@eedragonr6293]

How many Brexiteers do you believe there are in the EU?

[@brendancollis9049]

@@eedragonr6293 I live in the eu ... you’d be surprised by the sound of it

[@bartomalatesta5652]

Yes, however I'm still waiting for the promised free Marmite and Unicorns

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

How about the sovereign tea and free rum?

[@bartomalatesta5652]

@The Alchemist yes and the UK will also take back the colonies it lost in North America

[@commonsense9176]

Hate marmite unicorns are nice though

[@areswalker5647]

@Piston Broke what prosperity? Britain needed to colonize countries all over the world in order to have enough to sustain itself, now what will it do?

[@bearsagainstevil]

@@areswalker5647 no they had a industrial revolution before everybody else

[@j.obrien4990]

Britain can look to the US to see where its current path is leading.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Bright future indeed lol /s

[@michaeltoney2277]

The US is going to be fine. If anything this is a lesson on how powerful the system is that our founding fathers put in place. Trump is a want to be dictator and has spent four years at war with every democratic institution in the government. Appointing people on purpose to head department with the intent do destroy or misuse the department. Yet still the system worked. Our founding fathers saw the Trumps in the future and put fundamental safeguards in place; they are working. The US will see other aspiring dictators as will all democracies.

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

utter piffle.

[@lamargriffin8696]

Dont worry about britain europe i mean britain colonized many successful and rather fortunate island nations through out its history .im sure they should be able to handle themselves . From the bahamas i support any choice the british people decide they want becuase thats there life. And if they feel wronged and better off on their own then i support their choice.

[@robertracicot7232]

Autorritarianism and fascism?

[@buddy1155]

Wow Tanja Borzel was terrible bad informed for a political scientist. 1) She probably didn't read the EU-UK deal, services ARE mentioned in the deal. 2) Spain will not vote against Scotland as an EU member, they have already explicitly said so.

[@PWingert1966]

"Shot itself in the foo"t....why does that sound so much like: "In the left testicle and is aiming for the right one next"?

[@jeswin9829]

The blogger sounds like sheldon from the big bang theory...100%: "17:10"

[@thomasdanielsen9941]

21:34 sure, and still everything was wrong with the EU. I am extremly happy that the UK is no longer a member or part of the EU. Finally we can focus on whats in the interest of the EU

[@0penminds]

And you are most welcome to it.

[@marksavage1108]

Finally, you can focus on the next to want to leave, Macron on UK television stated if France was given a vote they would follow the UK. I say on guy verhofstadt facebook page often, give the 27 in / out referendums, you can carry on with those who vote for it. you can only take the people along the path, they themselves choose to be on.

[@ellied.violet7372]

@@marksavage1108 In the EU27, everyone can have a referendum if they wish to. If they don't it means they don't need one because people are content with the status quo. Show me the EU statute which prevents anyone of doing so. The UK did not need to ask the EU's permission, did they?

[@peterclark816]

Interesting discussion, although normally you have someone on the other side to put their point of view too.

[@martinmcdonald4207]

They couldn't find anyone brave enough!

[@simonhunter7370]

Still waiting for all the goodies

[@LabRat6619]

It's a dam sight better having NO MPs to interview

[@rogerpinnock6847]

And there was me thinking Project Fear was over with!

[@davewebb2936]

You thought there was a project fear!😂

[@martinmcdonald4207]

Its project reality that will really hurt.

[@SystemBD]

Spain will not be against a possible Scottish independence. Even if it compromises the argument against the independence of Catalonia (which the Spanish Government will deny), the idea of sticking it to England after hundreds of years of animosity (see, Gibraltar) is simply too good to pass on.

[@robertchaplin]

What? I seem to remember some history.

[@jayw6034]

I think what they are inadvertently dancing around is that deals will once again be struck with the EU that open trade again, but individually negotiated between two separate state powers. That potentially could mean open trade between those businesses and people that tilts in favor of UK businesses. But also means that the deals could swing the other way, or end up with no deals, which would leave an extended period of less trade. This probably also means more volatility in UK government as people are impacted by either bad deals or no deals that hurt their livelihoods. If the UK government isn't up to the task of negotiating beneficial deals then they probably just guaranteed a rather short run in office.

[@commonsense31]

Well when you don’t have anything of value to negotiate from!

[@Stew282]

This would have been a much better discussion if you had brought in someone who knew what they were talking about.

[@SatisfactionUK]

People are forgetting the fundamental reason why the British voted to leave the EU. That reason was because the EU are moving towards a Federal states of Europe. A bit like the United states of america. The British did not want to be part of the United States of Europe.

[@refugeg271]

The Brits a country of people without a flag! It is illegal to fly the Union Flag as a subject of the Crown.

[@rext8949]

Like an irresponsible petulant kid.

[@tmabdiminti1040]

This is news to me

[@pinklickpony]

I did, I think more federalism would have been better. We could have begun to protect people from our own self-serving greedy arsed politicians for a start!

[@pinklickpony]

@@refugeg271 The union flag is not English you know, that’s why you shouldn’t fly it except in certain circumstances.

[@tolitsdterrible4785]

There's an old adage that says "the same door that shuts others out shuts you in".

[@roisinmalone3015]

Spain has said it wouldn't veto Scotland's membership of the EU

[@lewisbrand]

no, Spain has actually said the opposite

[@roisinmalone3015]

@@lewisbrand I am sorry but you are incorrect Spain wouldn't veto Scotland's membership. Spain objected to Scotland joining when the UK was a member of the EU re issues with Catalonia Britain is now a third country and no longer an EU member.

[@lewisbrand]

@@roisinmalone3015 and Scotland is part of the UK

[@roisinmalone3015]

@@lewisbrand At the moment. The issue is re an independent Scotland joining the EU and Spain

[@lewisbrand]

@@roisinmalone3015 no it isn't. there will not be another Sottish independence referendum for many years

[@jackryan2135]

Yea, the UK was a small fishing village before it joined the EU. Never really did much in historical terms.

[@markaled4939]

Very small. France got most of the fish even. Xd

[@jonathansimmons5353]

biggest empire the world has ever seen. piffle compared to all eu countries lol

[@skiteufr]

Excuse me but the point on the French fishermen is not correct. French fishermen CAN fish UK waters, they just have to register for autorisation before and on a slighly reduced quota. It's good for them compared to a no access. And British fishermen who land their catch in France have to fill paperwork which basically is already leaving some fish to rot

[@luminousfractal420]

given boris dumped 1million tonnes of nuclear waste off the welsh coast id be careful what your catching and feeding people as im pretty sure geiger counters arent part of standard food safety tests. it will spread and pollute 40miles inland according to the experts.

[@buk3695]

They CAN fish with authorisation, they just don't get the authorisations from UK

[@stevehouse3904]

Tell me why it took so long to negotiate absolutely nothing, the eu, ( small letters), they just did not want to let go, so now we have a mediocre outcome with virtually none of the anticipated paperwork requirements in place, bit like trying to get a doctors appointment or a dentists appointment, the system is NOT working.

[@davidbrown5628]

and if I'm on holiday in Spain I'm probably not going to spend longer than 90 days?!

[@Kody_El_Durado]

the millionaires and billionaires will, oh the rich tears are priceless

[@montumeroe9593]

"They thought they could be a tax haven and export their services to the EU? Be my guest!" LOL

[@lewisbrand]

The stunning ignorance of many Europeans is extraordinary. London is the number one financial capital of the whole world, Paris and Frankfurt are not even in the top twenty. Barriers to services ? yes, but not in Europe: it's any barriers to access the London markets FROM Europe that Europeans should be concerned about.

[@montumeroe9593]

@@lewisbrand You're having a laugh an American talking about ignorance LOL.

[@montumeroe9593]

@@lewisbrand You're having a laugh an American talking about ignorance LOL.

[@lewisbrand]

@@montumeroe9593 I'm British

[@montumeroe9593]

@@lewisbrand Even more delusional a British Empire person who doesn't realise the Empire is gone. England doing bang up job with Corona compared to say Senegal with not even 1/3 of England's GDP.

[@user-propositionjoe]

Of course it can go it alone, as long as it doesn't mind Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving to rejoin. As long as it doesn't mind being a lot poorer in the long run and losing all the benefits of being part of the largest single market on the planet. As long as the poor people in Britain don't mind being poorer and struggling more. As long as everyone doesn't mind higher inflation rates coupled with the pound being weaker. So of course it can go it alone.

[@tangaz5819]

Yes, leave it to little englanders to go it alone. They wanted this, . We didn't!

[@jonathansimmons5353]

the single market doesnt help joe bloggs- when france took the EUro, everything went up 50% overnight- a 3 franc bottle of wine became 3 euros overnight, housing costs went up, and the jobs dried up.. i was there. expect the same again.

[@mattcarson3365]

Get me out of this country! We are a complete laughing stock and an international joke, who in their right mind ever thought leaving the largest free tariff trade market in the world was a good idea - this will be an economic disaster, coupled with a pandemic = the perfect storm!!!

[@davew4998]

@Joe As long as we don't have to suffer fools like you any more with your warped views of democracy, we will be very happy indeed.

[@chrisdechristophe]

Scotland will not be leaving.

[@jackc3205]

It's an interesting experiment for sure. I don't think so, but who knows. Wait and see.

[@moover123]

Of course it can. It'll Just need time to adjust. Maybe in 50 years they'll be on a similar level as before and have sorted things out.

[@CalumCarlyle]

Lovely freudian slip there at about 6:10 "taking control of their national density"!

[@limitlesssky3050]

Should also use taking control of their national obesity lol

[@allazharduisenbek9936]

@Fantômas 13 as any other European country? Duh?

[@AnthonyD-yy2in]

@Fantômas 13 Shhhh they don't want to hear that!

[@monikamiliczka6104]

@@limitlesssky3050 init!

[@jonathansimmons5353]

"Poland sending workers to uk"- uk has been taking the hit for this and the effect on the jobs employment for decades..

[@seanpatrick1243]

I’m not so sure Spain would vote against Scotland joining the EU. The details situation is quite different than Catalonia, even if the optics make them appear more similar than they are.

[@seanpatrick1243]

@Davy Yep, all because Downing Street is pulling the strings. Wasn't Brexit about sovereignty? . . . taking back control? . . . I doubt Scotland feels the need for their own currency, but they could easily created one pegged to the Euro until they rejoin . . . Anything is better than going down the toilet with the £

[@laurentiullukacs5919]

You know noting ha ha ha

[@seanpatrick1243]

@@laurentiullukacs5919 Enlighten us

[@laurentiullukacs5919]

It was for dany not for you Mr shean Patrick your comment is correct i still learning KZbin's commentary sorry my first language is not English

[@laurentiullukacs5919]

@@seanpatrick1243 what you know about passports politics dat is really what's happens currency is a side effect today everybody i asking where you form not what's your name

[@andresvillarreal9271]

I am quite frustrated by the view of Tanja Börzel, who believes that the Spanish will reject Scotland for purely political reasons in regards to the separatist movements inside Spain. If all of the countries of the EU were so petty and shortsighted, there would not be an EU at all. Quite the contrary, a country with economic difficulties like Spain would be more interested in strengthening the union with a good country on the economic front, rather than comparing an incomparable situation like the one in Pais Vasco, for example, with the one in Scotland. And now that I think of it, Spain would also be interested in putting pressure on the situation in Gibraltar, which has much better alternatives for its future if England shows no capacity to hold on to the territories that it has historically engulfed.

[@razenby]

Scotland is rejecting Scotland...

[@androsRoccha]

I don't think it was a good comparison Scotland and Catalonia, if it was what she meant by saying that Spain wouldn't vote for Scotland become EU. Who voted to leave was majority English, and when UK was EU Scotland majority decided to stay, different from Catalonia.

[@gamingtonight1526]

Not in a world where every other country is in a trade/political group, and where we have a global economy with global corporations. Expect permanently high unemployment, homelessness, inflation; and many laws that help workers and consumers will be taken away.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Welcome to brexit britain.

[@graveperil2169]

the UK will join CPTPP

[@markd7581]

Haha pick up a book mate

[@gamingtonight1526]

@@markd7581 Who was that aimed at? Bad English....

[@markd7581]

@@gamingtonight1526 I don’t think you understand English. That comment was obviously for you otherwise I would have specifically replied to someone else’s comment.

[@laurencethermes5433]

Britain is not the first to leave the EU. Greenland left a long time ago

[@nodrinkingproblemhere9095]

@ Brexit voter in a nutshell.

[@mtnsaray]

@@nodrinkingproblemhere9095 LOL

[@gianisain8880]

WOW WELL DONE YOU THICK BREXITER!

[@navpreetsingh8156]

Small population not completely tied into the EU rules, easy break up

[@youcan5863]

Thanks God they did

[@stephennicholls7712]

What l have never understood is that if we as nation couldn't manage our own affairs which was apparently the reason we joined in the FIRST place, WHY did we ever think that Europe could do it for us or indeed would WANT to?. The people in this debate WANT Britain to fail. That is pretty obvious to me at least. The German woman is obviously upset that we took the decision to leave..But let us be clear on one issue. if the EU had given David Cameron the little he'd asked for, this entire problem could have been avoided. The EU has NO ONE to blame for this than THEMSELVES. In fact they have tried from day one to make it look as if it was OUR fault. The blame lies family and squarely with THEM. l believe we should have left THIRTY YEARS ago. Indeed we should NEVER HAVE JOINED!!!!

[@sare248]

I think one thing that does not work in the UK’s favour is its geography. The UK may be able to go at it alone with their trade deals like any other country but the largest market in the world sits at their doorstep. The EU market being bigger has more clout and could make decisions that may indirectly affect the UK economy. That’s already happening. One consequence is the redirection of transport directly from Ireland to France/Netherlands thereby bypassing ports in Wales.

[@bugsygoo]

My God the introductions make for cringe worthy TV!

[@donhuang9855]

The billion $ question: Will the UK be better-off after BREXIT in the long run?

[@PaulBengtsson]

@@donhuang9855 Yes.

[@donhuang9855]

@@PaulBengtsson Brave answer.

[@jameslugg1149]

more euro trash TV

[@bernd_das_brot6911]

@@PaulBengtsson based and redpilled

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

Prices will not increase, they will go down. The UK has lodged its tariff schedule with the WTO and has removed tariffs from 87.5% of imports on goods by value. That means the UK can import from competitive markets outside the EU, and that will lower prices of goods both for consumers and manufacturers.

[@yannikoloff7659]

No it can't. EU standarts not allowing it. You see, you became to be rule taker, not rule maker

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

@@yannikoloff7659 🙄 We already did.

[@lordanonimmo7699]

That's not how it works,the EU can have much better deals than the UK alone.UK to actually have great deals it will need to negotiate with smaller economies that aren't that great to deal to begin with.The EU being the biggest or second biggest economy on earth i can't remember right now,can make great deals for all it's members,now the uk doesn't have this and will be in a big disadvantage than when it was with the EU,especially negotiating with countries like U.S and China.

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

@@lordanonimmo7699 Tough. We've left the EU.

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

@@lordanonimmo7699 I'm not interested in your rubbish.

[@MarioLanzas.]

I believe the EU is about to drop the 100% agreement policy , so the union can finally take more proactive desitions. first of them sainf goodbye to Poland and Hungary if they don´t start behaving as proper EU members

[@ellied.violet7372]

With you in hoping so!!

[@dao.y4460]

16:33 so professional

[@Kvasiir]

Facts not feelings. UK has a weak position now

[@dao.y4460]

@@Kvasiir UK still got US as its backup anyway .

[@geordievillan]

@@dao.y4460 backup for what, exactly?

[@dao.y4460]

@@geordievillan economy vaccine kinda stuff

[@LoEMDubstep]

Independentisme català shows up: great guests, great discussion thank you I so wish we could continue... Oh you germans...

[@mutleyeng]

nice to see the balance of guests - oh, wait

[@ULYSSES-31]

They couldn't find someone who thinks Brexit is good.

[@the0ne809]

No serious person thinks brexit is a good idea. It's just a very expensive way to keep immigrants out. That's about it. Lol

[@bobblue_west]

@@the0ne809 Spoken like an EU Marxist.

[@the0ne809]

@@bobblue_west now, define Marxism.

[@the0ne809]

@@izabelabartoszewicz5738 asking for asylum isn't illegal. Therefore, they aren't "illegal". Not sure what your point is.

[@Abraham_Tsfaye]

When I was in UK. I saw empty boarded up streets under a constant grey sky, litter everywhere. Homeless people sleeping in doorways. Opioid addicts out of their mind and women so drunk they urinated on the streets. It's a sad declined country

[@sweetpeasweetpea5083]

my park of the UK is not like that- away from some of the large cities life is different, very different ... and not in decline either

[@jameslugg1149]

are you on drugs ? have you seen Paris lately

[@kamanashiskar9203]

That's why they are bringing in foreigners from South-East Asia so they can get rid of the ethnic Brits.

[@mangojack1487]

That’s what being a member of the EU does to a country. The druggies were probably from Holland or France. They were there to get the free benefits.

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

@@mangojack1487 The English love their Ket though.

[@scott701988]

Frightening that they are all certain they know the future.

[@carlosandleon]

It's like predicting what might happen when someone jumps off the plane without a chute. Only needs 2 braincells to predict "Splat!"

[@scott701988]

@@carlosandleon well the uk has left and nothing has gone splat. Europe is bigger then the eu and the world is bigger then Europe. I know you cant think outside the box but others can.

[@TonyHavenMusic]

Can the UK go it alone? We act like the EU is an ancient group like the Roman Empire 😆 the EU didn't even exist when our parents were kids, I think UK will be absolutely fine

[@KuroiGW2]

People seem to forget basic history, if it wasn’t for the UK, europe would have been a fascist super state long before any ‘EU Project’.

[@ersidagalliu2507]

@@KuroiGW2 britain cant talk for freedom at all they money are made from stealing killing another population money and another population property britain is not a huge industrial country at all you ancestor gaf made much mistake and dont complain for immigration all they come to britain are from former british colional because is your ancestor mistake that people are starving for food

[@indacage271]

@@ersidagalliu2507 I have no idea what you wrote?

[@ersidagalliu2507]

@@indacage271 im talking the truth and im sorry for english is not my native language

[@ersidagalliu2507]

@@atlasnetwork7855 im sorry for english is not my nativ language but im speaking the truth

[@dickturpin3115]

I love a balanced debate

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

😏 This is a remoaner talking shop with an eu bobble head host. It's pure remoaner twaddle.

[@thepearlswirl]

💯

[@davewebb2936]

@@VIVA_CPTPP So you think they were lying? Brextards don't like facts, do they!

[@VIVA_CPTPP]

@@davewebb2936 I never dialogue with remoaners. #muted #blocked

[@weeddegree]

catalonia.. oof thats an issue.. nevermind scotland lol

[@AlwaysAC]

Not really, Spain has made it clear they would oppose Scotland’s entrance in to the EU. Multiple times. Scotland’s a nation, Catalonia is a region. Not at all the same.

[@davew4998]

@@AlwaysAC What's your definition of a nation?

[@bobblue_west]

@@AlwaysAC Scotland joined the UK Union in 1707. It's a region of the UK. Gib' was formally British since 1713, so tell Madrid to shove their claim, or the UK will support Catalan indy ref 2.

[@user-nf9xc7ww7m]

How does singapore do it? They're a sovereign nation smaller than Oxfordshire that manages economic success and GDP per capita of $107,000 PPP. They have a hard border with Malaysia, but also have access to the sea, just like Britain. I'm no Brexiteer, just curious about the doom and gloom...

[@user-nf9xc7ww7m]

@@elyrexo Thank you.

[@Danny-lz1ek]

I still don't know any advantage of leaving the EU

[@kirksavva1748]

I voted remain, but I just wanted to say I wish you had a less biased team to discuss this.

[@theancientsancients1769]

They hate Britain most! The deal is not perfect but can be cancelled anytime. Britain surpassed India becoming the world 5th largest economy despite the pandemic and France is at number 7 now

[@eedragonr6293]

This is not a debate, this is an analysis. And this is their standpoint. The Brexiteers must come with their analysis and standpoint. Get used to the foreign opinion on the British. The British also have their own opinions. It's hard for a "minority" to not be represented at all by the Brexiteers. But everybody knows who is responsible.

[@GazilionPT]

24:25 The commentator is right in assuming Spain will veto Scotland's joining the EU - *if* Scotland leaves the UK against the UK's constitutional system. In that case, sure, Spain will veto Scotland. But if an independence referendum in Scotland is deemed constitutional and lawful by the UK's Supreme Court and it is accepted by Westminster, then Spain will not oppose Scotland joining the EU, because Spain always argued the problem with Catalonia's independence was the fact that a part of Spain splitting away is not unconstitutional.

[@AlfredCamp]

All very clever, weren't we then? :-)

[@gabe2552]

I cannot think of anything that only the UK can produce. Only arrogance, but that might be not enough. Keep your fish keep your arrogance. We will get along somehow.

[@lewisbrand]

bye

[@gabe2552]

@@lewisbrand ;)

[@julianjesson7731]

GBP

[@gabe2552]

Now the britts can pick all the cherrys if there is any left...

[@diestos]

Why is it that i am allowed to comment here and not in any if the DW videos in spanish????

[@TungaroPlau]

Nice analysis. Still id mention that boris n few others delivered that fatal 2% to the leave campain in a power - grab move at the public expense

[@hellhounds3920]

Scotland should leave UK

[@kamanashiskar9203]

No. Italy should leave the EU.

[@hellhounds3920]

@@kamanashiskar9203 and how italy will trade ?? Becouse italy will have no market becouse its in middle of europe ????

[@hellhounds3920]

@@kamanashiskar9203 you should go study you dont know how bad it will be for a state to leave Eu when the state its in middle of Eu

[@eggymixes]

You couldn’t get more myopic reporting on Brexit than by having someone from the Economist and a German political scientist.

[@hopeforbetter382]

Yes, you can, just look back at the Brexit campaign before the referendum.

[@Blackbirdxd]

Sure, I bet you're a The Sun reader

[@eggymixes]

Blackbird Nope.

[@bobblue_west]

Agree. Must be great getting paid to spout your prejudices while trying to sound scholarly.

[@Sketchmee5]

Only time will be the judge on Brexit.

[@andrekoniger3020]

Yes, they hold all the cards.

[@lewisbrand]

yes, we do. tough

[@ShadowFalcon]

@@lewisbrand Too bad it's a game of Uno, and the objective is to get rid of the cards eh.

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

As a Pole I agree that Giblartar can join Schengen Area but I also agree that they should have been controled by Spanish even give them partially power over immigration department ,not about amount of immigration but more who can tresspass the border .I don't want situation when Brits with bought homes in Giblartar who live in the UK can claim all the EU benefits and not living there.This situation is not relevant to Liechtenstein as they think.They can't have more than before however they have to step down.Who knows maybe in the future finacial hub from London will move to the Giblartar.

[@johnbinnie5697]

What about all the Brits with cheap holiday homes in Poland?

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

@@johnbinnie5697 be aware of inquisitions .If you are going to buy a cottage in countryside your neighbour may visit you saying that today is Sunday and you can't work in the garden.

[@johnbinnie5697]

@@piotrwojdelko1150 used to it in Germany.

[@buk3695]

@@johnbinnie5697 F them. They voted out , stay out

[@Overcookedhamburger]

Is brexit a good idea ? We have 3 people who say no tonight at 9.

[@iblendallday]

All.in Europe though lol

[@nitr8]

"Nein" at 9

[@Overcookedhamburger]

Nine um neun. Ich komme aus kanada. Ich stehe für CANZUK. Aber auch für Der EU und Deutschland.

[@barrystubbs983]

why couldn't it ?

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

What is the situation for UK citizens who live and work in a European country, either having lived there for years already or who want to do so in the future? Does it make a difference if they are married to a European citizen?

[@jonathansimmons5353]

they have had 4 -four - years to obtain citizenship. its 4+ years in total immersion to become fluent. if they are lazy or skyving not my fault

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

@@jonathansimmons5353, of course that's true, but what happens to those who chose not to, because they were proud to be the British and trusted in a good deal with reciprocal safeguards being reached, for example? Do they fall down the cracks in Boris' deal now?

[@tomc2681]

That depends on the individual countries immigration policy.