After Hours - Why Disney Princes Are Bad Role Models For Boys (Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast)

[@TheNightFall00]

For some reason, I've always had a problem with people saying it's wrong for Ariel to eat fish in the Little Mermaid. She lives in the ocean, what else is she gonna eat? Fish eat fish, like, all the time.

[@lonelydreddhead6676]

Fedora-sensei thank you you're telling me that they eat seaweed

[@ayarimeriam4497]

Elijah Bailey but they eat fish too

[@bhope13]

Plankton????

[@bhope13]

If it's enough for a whale, it should be enough for something human-sized

[@anishia]

But you can infer from Triton's comment about not wanting his "youngest daughter snared on some fish-eater's hook!" that the merfolk didn't eat fish themselves. I imagine that in the oceans of a world where merpeople evolved, there also evolved nutritious sponges for them to eat or that they filter feed through some structure on their fish parts.

[@dontfeedthetrolls9798]

What about Prince Phillip? He fell in love with Aurora when he thought she was just a peasant girl; in fact, he loved her so much he was willing to stand up to his father, the king, in order to be with her. Then he faces a DRAGON for her, and breaks the spell with true love's kiss. And before anyone can point out the creepiness of kissing unconscious people, the only reason he kissed her was to end the spell and wake her up.

[@AMB33ZY]

Don't Feed The Trolls You mean the Disney prince that committed sexual assaults on a sleeping woman after only knowing her for a couple seconds into a song which she ran away from him terrified because he was a stranger.

[@RatEatingSevenWorms]

He didn't know it would break the curse

[@kyleellis9177]

Of course he did. he heard about what happened with snowwhite and figures hey worth a chance.

[@Sajirah]

It was the King who raped her in the original story I believe. Or at least that was the way I remember it.

[@Sirxeko]

In the Disney version, the three fairies directly tell him that loves kiss will awaken her. He is hesitant to kiss her, but is encouraged by the fairies.

[@ladsylad]

"he was only attracted to her body" wasn't that the exact same reason why Ariel was obsessed with him in the first place?

[@hayuseen6683]

Pretty sure she was fascinated by humans... so his race more than his body?

[@jb888888888]

@@hayuseen6683Now I wonder if the ocean internet is filled with interspecies porn. "Watching My Daughter Go Human" and such.

[@almightytallest4009]

​@hayuseen6683 isn't that fetishization?

[@hayuseen6683]

@almightytallest4009 Akin to orientalism

[@EllieC130]

To Prince Eric's defence, she fell in love with him for his looks too.

[@Dgjserffft]

😂

[@tvdv3416]

Also, Simba didn't abandon his kingdom. He was exiled after his Uncle seized the thrown by murdering his father and attempting to murder him.

[@AimeeColeman]

I think that's more understandable from an extremely sheltered 16 year old than the adult prince

[@Stettafire]

@@tvdv3416 His uncle didn't officially exile him. Just told him to run away, big difference. Simba could've choosen to stay and face consequences for what he "did" but he ran away from his responsibilities instead.

[@TheLastSane1]

@@Stettafire His uncle then immediately sent Hyena to kill him when he was a cub. He was exiled by default only because they couldnt assassinate him.

[@Delightful_Addition]

I say that if Mulan is able to be counted as a princess, then Li Shang should be able to be counted as a prince.

[@TheMedicatedArtist]

Delightful Addition She's a princess because she committed a heroic act. Shang did help her defeat the Huns in the palace, so it definitely counts.

[@RaverHates]

Damn fucking right!!!!

[@tcot-wi8wf]

Radioactive Panda princess and prince are titles based on bloodline her blood isn't royal or Noble same goes for Shang

[@JorgeFabrizio]

tcot0663 he's taking Disney criteria for becoming a princess in the meta perspective. Officially, Mulan is a Disney princess.

[@CDMuffy]

Delightful Addition she's considered a princess not because of Shang but because in the actual story she becomes a concubine to the emperor of china. Disney doesn't understand things and figures being honored is the same as being knighted into princesshood or some other make believe shit.

[@TheUltimateBatninja]

Y'all literally forgot about Prince Phillip who fought a fricken dragon

[@emmajaramillo9160]

Bunny! Consent means nothing than.jk

[@neroquin]

Who's that again? I'm not very good with names

[@hindenburg2006]

@@neroquin i think it was Sleeping Beauty's Prince

[@secretscorpio5393]

Tiara he also made out with a sleeping woman soooo.....

[@TheUltimateBatninja]

@@secretscorpio5393 ...you are correct. I retract my original statement

[@NeuroticPixieSlasher]

So the "he was a teenager" argument is okay for Simba, but not for Beast, who was: 1) Enchanted at 11 years old for not letting an old hag into the castle on a stormy night 2) Promptly forgotten by all the subjects outside the castle gates 3) Spent his teenage years in a castle surrounded by talking furniture 4) Completely unused to social interaction 5) Terrified and angry at the situation he was in 6) Never pressured Belle into any obligations because of his situation 7) Became compassionate and empathetic as she brought him out of his shell Come oooooon >_

[@anthonybowman3423]

Beast was a dick well after being a teenager. Also, there's no proof he isn't still a violent asshole. Sure he cleans up for like two days near the end of the movie, but that's hardly proves anything. Dude's a violent sociopath. He has a reason for it. His childhood sucked. Still a violent sociopath, though.

[@coglineerro730]

He's clearly not a sociopath. Also, he never harms anyone who doesn't threaten him. He never hurt Belle. Even when he threw her into the cell, he was sure not to harm her. He attacked her emotionally, but we don't know how others who stumbled on the castle treated him. He cared for his staff to the point where they fought for him even after he ruined their one chance at becoming a human. And he wasn't angry, he was frustrated. He had run out of time and lost all hope. now, his actions weren't ok and he will have to continue to work towards recovering from his trauma, but he was trying. he was actively working to become a better person even when it meant staying a beast forever. if Simba gets a pass, the Beast gets a pass.

[@anthonybowman3423]

He left Belle's sick father in a prison cell with every intention of letting him die there until a reasonably attractive woman SACRIFICED herself to save him. He had every intention of effectively murdering her father. A sociopath is someone who has no empathy or sympathy for others. Even his kinder actions towards Belle is arguably self-interest. He never performs a single act in the entire movie that doesn't serve his own ends.

[@aclemons6674]

NeuroticPixieSlasher REMEMBER GEOFFREY

[@jacksondelaney2741]

Why do none of these people remember super important plot points. 1. Simba was forced to leave his lands by threat of death 2. Eric was put under a spell by Ursula so that he would do anything she says 3. Beast was 11 years old when he was turned into a monster so he never got to really grow up

[@Vortor]

yeah they blamed Eric for stuff he had no control over. And yeah beast was basically raised by furniture... And he was sort of a bear-wildebeast, who knows if the curse influenced his personality in some way. Also the endplate had them saying they'd be making extra episodes of after hours, right before they completely stopped making episodes of after hours. I am sad.

[@hindenburg2006]

Thank you!!! Glad I'm not the only one who realized that

[@jaelli101010]

Jackson Delaney i agree, here’s another. In every telling of Cinderella do you see the prince actually looking for cinderella?? Nooo! It’s the grand duke. And they also always forget to mention that the shoe is f*ing magical! It can only fit cinderella.

[@jordancorbishley5365]

Beast is the important one he was between 9-11 when he was cursed for doing what all children are told to do not open a door for a stranger and just because said stranger had magic she can be awful about it and curse an obviously orphaned child and his servants who were raising him turning them into furniture who the had to continue raising him as furniture and the she gave him a deadline to fall in love by the time he's like 20 with no prior experience with no prior experience with women who aren't his parent/guardians and making him look like a monster basically telling a nine year old or so go die because you did the right thing and didn't open the door for a stranger

[@brokenman58]

That's one reason this group SUCCCKKKKKSSSS! The other is they are NOT funny.

[@kjs8719]

you guys realise Beast was 11 years old when he got turned into a monster, just because he wouldn't let a stranger in the house at midnight? pretty sure that was discussed in one of these lol

[@hyrekandragon2665]

To be fair, a lot of these arguments are strawman arguments because a lot of the princes' attributes can be attributed to the narrative of the story or putting things out of context.

[@lonelydreddhead6676]

Yeah I feel like they didn't give Nadine a chance, also half the Disney princesses sucked as well but we can't blame them for the period they we're in

[@dermotmcdermott6890]

Not covered by cracked but matpat at film theory did.

[@faves633]

I love that Beast was essentially in a horrifying life or death situation that included the lives of his friends and possibly family, that Belle knew about, Belle basically treated it like he was her quasi abusive boyfriend with very little sympathy for his situation, and Belle is supposed to be seen as a good person. Belle, you got into a relationship with a guy that he was pretty much forced into with the lives of everyone he loved on the line, and you played the "I don't know, do I love him? game", you're not a paragon, you're an ass. You could have at least tried to fake it to save everyone's lives, THEN try at a real relationship, but no, you took advantage of someone in a life or death situation in which they couldn't say "no"... yea, pretty much rape. Sorry, from both the male and female perspective, BnB is one of the most messed up romances ever made outside of straight up porn and soap operas.

[@Asenueh]

It was covered, if memory serves, in a previous episode.

[@KestralKuthule]

Leave Eric alone the dude nearly drowned and he found Ariel Mute and under-dressed on a beach wearing rags, the logical assumption in that day and age would not be that she could write. Plus in Simba's defence he was forced into hiding by being manipulated by his "beloved" Uncle after seeing and being blamed for his father's death. Plus Best Disney Prince is obvious Hercules. while I'm not a fan of the movie due to it's many inaccuracies in relation to the Heracles Mythos he is real a teenager and willing to risk everything for a woman who was manipulated into betraying him.

[@christopherauzenne5023]

Ashlei Paginton also couple things one Eric was disoriented so logically he couldn't really tell who saved him, two he was under mind control so they should shut up

[@KestralKuthule]

Glad to see someone else gets it

[@Bladez10]

Also, he did not know he was feeding Ariel's her subjects. Probably at some point when the webbing was being planned though. Does bring up the question as to what the Merfolk ate if the fish were considered citizens instead of food.

[@samuelmuller121]

The merfolk probably ate fish too

[@jaykay6222]

Probably other fish, but maybe they were all vegetarians. Seaweed for everyone! Also, @OP, Hercules isn't a prince.

[@TheLastSane1]

One thing that kind of bugs me is that when people bring up that Beast was a 'bad person' or a 'bad ruler' before the curse. If you follow the song, they say they have been cursed for 10 years. And the rose will finish blooming and begin withering on his 21st Birthday. So simple math tells us the the Enchantress knocked on the door of an 11 year old boy in the form of a withered old hag and asked to be allowed in in exchange for a single rose. Now I am not sure about you guys but at 11 I could barely remember to brush my teeth every night let alone rule a kingdom. And STRANGER DANGER, What 11 year old is gonna let in this evil withered looking witch into their house without their parents around? This means the Enchantress cursed an 11 year old boy into the form of a beast, to effectively die in ten years because what 11 year old understands true love. I am fucking 30 and don't have a handle on that stuff.

[@Tallahassee21]

True but the point being he is a prince destined to rule a kingdom, I believe you are raised and taught from a young age to be kind to your loyal subjects.yet from the story it's assumed he's an asshole. The important part being why would the prince open the door. Don't they usually have servants for that?

[@hrishiv27]

Dan talks about this in OPCD

[@dragonstryk7280]

People in general: What could an eleven year old DO to warrant that? Teachers and Bus Drivers who work with 11 and 12 year olds: God, if only I had those powers.

[@anzelsilver]

Bruh y'all are sleeping on prince phillip from sleeping beauty (mind the pun) he was funny, he was charming, he followed the fairies orders which means he knows when to step back and let more experienced ppl take the wheel and he fought up against a fucking dragon with just a horse and a sword best one yet

[@joli1320]

A few problems with this: Eric was hypnotized. The whole point of the brunette chick was it was Ursula in disguise who hypnotized him to fall in love with her so Ariel would fail. Also, he did recognize Ariel at first. But because she couldn't sing, which is what made him fall in love with her ("that voice, I just can't get it out of my head."). he thought it was just some random girl that looked like her but took her in anyway cuz she clearly needed help. Aladdin didn't want to force Jasmine to love her. He says, "there's this girl" and Genie immediately cuts him off saying "you know I can't make anyone fall in love with you" and he says, "no I know. Besides, it wouldn't even matter. She can only marry me if I was... Wait a minute, can you make me a prince?!" Cuz he knows Jasmine can only marry a prince. And Jasmine *did* love him, she wanted to wait til she found someone she loved, not just some random prince who came waltzing in from nowhere with no wish to get to know her and only wanting her cuz she was a princess. Beast/Adam I feel should get a bit of a pass on his temper tantrums. I'm not saying he should be allowed to blow up like that, but if you were spending your developmental and teenage years as a terrifying, unloved, beast monster wouldn't you be upset? If the movie takes place close to his 21 birthday, since that's the time he was told he had to find love and the rose was already starting to bloom and everyone kept saying they were running out of time, and Lumiere says "10 years we've been rusting/ needing so much more than dusting" then that means the beast was around 10 or 11 when he was turned. So he spent his puberty and his teenage years as a beast, cut off from anyone who could even show him the right path or how to properly lead a kingdom. Not to mention why was he answering the door and not Cogsworth and why would a witch curse a child who is usually taught first thing, "Don't talk to strangers" least of all *let them in your home*. Naveen was only spoiled and obsessed with being rich cuz that was all he knew growing up. I mean you raise a kid where they have no repercussions, no consequences, where they get anything they want and have people who do everything for them, they're not gonna know how to behave in society or how to take care of themselves or literally anything but demand what they want and expect to get it. But then he meets Tiana, sees what a hard working, take no shit, badass woman she is, and he falls in love with that. He knows he has a lot to learn and was even willing to marry Charlotte in the end as long as Tiana got her restaurant cuz he *knows* how hard she's been working for it and how much she wants it. He doesn't need to take over the kingdom cuz his parents can still rule, and he has a young brother who can take over in the future. Of course he opens a restaurant with Tiana, that's what she's been wanting since she was a child. He grows up and changes in the end, you can't judge him based on his character from the beginning. Simba only left the kingdom cuz Scar convinced him he was responsible for his dad's death and that no one would love him or forgive him and he should run away to save himself. He was a baby, can you imagine how mentally scarring that can be to a child who is still in his influential phase?

[@doriepierre8365]

Joli Blythe yes! I wholeheartedly agree with all your points

[@pizzamandhx]

+Joli Blythe Moreover, concerning your point with Naveen, my understanding was that he lost everything due to some circumstances that I don't recall. He fell into honest-to-God love with Tiana, and backed her up on her dream. She WANTED to open up that restaurant, and he appears to have done everything he could to support her, including a position at HER restaurant on the wait staff. Wouldn't that make him, like feminist Super-Jesus or something?

[@rosestar1324]

Couldn't have said it better. These people must not have watched the movies because even a baby could understand these things.

[@jb888888888]

"why was he answering the door and not Cogsworth" servants can't be on the job 24/7.

[@joli1320]

@@jb888888888 i feel like butlers kina are expected to be on the job 24/7 at least back when this movie would've taken place. But even if that's not the case, that srill doesn't explain why an 11 year old child is answering the door instead of literally anyone else (i know the live action changed his age, but I'm talking the original animated movie)

[@passenthrualaska3293]

Prince Philip from Sleeping Beauty!!!! Fell in love with the Princess when he thought she was simply a peasant girl, and declared it proudly to his father. Then fought a dragon to save her!!!

[@passenthrualaska3293]

The prince from SnowWhite deserves a shout out too. He may not have done much of anything in the movie, but who knows what he faced on his own while having been searching for SnowWhite that whole time.

[@BlackCover95]

Passenthru Alaska We don't know if he faced anything; We have no indication he deserves credit for anything. Furthermore, his first response to seeing a corpse is to kiss it. And he doesn't get the same pass as Philip does. All in all, SW's Prince is hardly a role model, primarily because he has no characterization.

[@passenthrualaska3293]

I never said he was a role model just that he deserved a shout out. He deserves credit for having LOOKED if nothing else. And it wasn't seeing a corpse that inspires him to a kiss, it is seeing his lost love, the object of his search, and the need to say goodbye.

[@derekconnors4128]

Damn, I should rewatch Sleeping Beauty, Prince Philip sounds cool. Everyone in this comment section is talking about him.

[@iselee9928]

Jasmine does recognize Aladdin. When she confronts him he lies and tells her that he sometimes dresses as a commoner to escape palace life.

[@readwrecks]

You guys got Aladdin all wrong. He specifically states that he likes the girl but that she has to marry a prince. He wasn’t going to wish for her to fall in love with him. He was also willing to give his hard stolen bread to those orphans who had no money or stealing abilities. He got chased around all morning for that fucking bread! Almost died several times!

[@HopAndLockDropSoppityPop]

Right? I was waiting for someone to say it.

[@vianeyboruel504]

Rick Man yes

[@Jefstito]

They do this all the time. They force stuff into the theory and leave other things out purposely. Tbh 90% of AH theories are dead wrong, you just have to come prepare for that and realiza is just a fun show to watch

[@hrishiv27]

OPCD says you’re wrong

[@freetalkn657]

NOOOOOO, IT'S PRINCE PHILIP!!! From Sleeping Beauty! -Goes on a cute date with a forest woman. Gets INVITED BACK for a birthday party. -Rides home to let his dad know he is gonna marry this cool commoner instead of a princess he doesn't know. -Fights through and impressive number of hench-imps in an ambush set for him. -Fights to escape whole way, even in the dungeon, & would have just gone off anyway if the fairies didn't give him swag. -Rides like a boss through more hench-imps & a collapsing keep. -Barely slows down while cutting through a mega thorn jungle. -Fights dragon, looses shield, KEEPS FIGHTING DRAGON, climbs up a sheer cliff with a SINGLE HAND. -Sword-chucks into said dragon sorcerer, killing her in the coolest way possible. -Gently kisses his commoner lady, and then brings her downstairs to have that birthday date as previously scheduled. -EXPLAINS NOTHING. MIC DROP.

[@pianotm]

-Sexually molests an unconscious woman. At least it wasn't as bad as the original tale, where he rapes her. But you know, a kiss is enough. Just wait and see what happens when a video of you forcibly kissing a drugged woman gets out on the internet.

[@BlackCover95]

Mr4theLulz1 He didn't molest her; He simply kissed her to break the spell. In light of those circumstances (of which he was fully aware, unlike in the case of Snow White's Prince), I think it was perfectly acceptable (if not expected).

[@mylifeafterbreakfast]

BlackCover95 It doesn't matter the reason, he kissed her while she was unconscious. That is sexual assault.

[@AeridisArt]

mylifeafterbreakfast it was either get kissed by the guy she had a crush on or stay asleep forever. Any logical human being would pick the former.

[@Piecar]

Yeah, but....Like that was the only way to wake her up. So SOMEONE had to kiss her while sleeping. I kiss my girlfriend when she's sleeping when I get home from work...I don't consider it assault. I guess I should ask her about it, now I think of it.

[@ryanacorn5367]

It’s Philip! He meet a girl in the woods, didn’t use his position or wealth to seducer Aurora. Told his father that he didn’t want to go through with his arranged marriage because he had real fillings for someone. Got imprisoned by a sorceress for trying see her again. Found out not just Aurora but two whole kingdoms were in danger and armed only with a “magic” sword and shield fights his way out of a dungeon and a castle full orcs and goblins, through an enchanted thorn forest, and then kills a giant mother f%#king dragon. Finally he brakes what would have been a fatal curse with an act of true love. Dude put real fillings before tradition and then the safety of others before his own.

[@ryanacorn5367]

Was Philip to much of a white male for you Cracked? I think you excluded him so you chould favor the (defaqto) minority princes (Li Shang and Simba)

[@BlackCover95]

Ryan Acorn I'm trying to understand what your problem with the commenter's statement is. I still don't get it.

[@gaaraxnaru]

Ryan Acorn I agree with your first comment, but your second was unnecessary. A lot of people forget Prince Phillip and Sleeping Beauty in general, it's like a running joke. I think he's so unmemorable because he's just so perfect. It's kind of boring. Also he technically didn't kill the dragon alone. Beast, by the way is white and Eric's just tan. Don't see something that obviously isn't there. Simba's a minority? Talk about stretching an argument.

[@ryanacorn5367]

gaaraxnaru. They called beast an abusive monster (that's fair, cause he is), and basically told Eric to "check his privilege". They brought them up for the soul reason of putting them down. As for Phillip just getting overlooked, do you think the writer didn't do a google search and pull up the list when they were writing the scrip? Phillip got left out because he didn't fit their narrative, the same goes for Eugene (tangled). To think Simba is not black is silly BTW. the lion king is based on a story that is itself based off an old African story, and in all the live action productions he is always played by a black actor. To not acknowledge Simba is black is just shy of white washing.

[@Kaunte]

You're calling Simba, a freaking LION voiced by Matthew Broderick, maybe the whitest of the white dudes ever, a black person. That's dumber than most stuff the swj spout.

[@Whimmery]

Prince Philip from Sleeping Beauty is the best prince. He has a name, a humorous personality, may not of recognized the princess but that is because she was a baby when they first met. But when he does fall in love with her, he falls for her strictly for love and even willing to go against his father thinking she was a peasant girl. not only was he willing to risk the throne and all, but he went out life and limb to save her, even fighting to the death with a witch/ dragon. prince Phillip is the best disney prince hands down.

[@Schylove12]

PRINCE PHILLIP!!!! WHY DOES EVERYONE ALWAYS FORGOT ABOUT THE ONE AMAZING LEGITIMATE ROYAL MALE

[@JimmySteller]

Amazing? He almost had less personality than the Prince from "Cinderella!" Notice how he doesn't speak for the whole final third of the film? He doesn't say anything to Maleficent, the fairies (even when they're leading him by the nose to victory), his father, nor even Aurora, the woman he supposedly loves after spending, what, an afternoon singing and dancing together? It's like his voice actor quit in protest halfway during production and the filmmakers just decided to make his character a complete mute to hide it. And like I alluded to earlier, he barely did anything to escape from Maleficent's castle, and he certainly didn't kill Maleficent, the fairies did that. The only thing he was able to do on his own was kiss a comatose woman without her consent.

[@kgirl1992]

Prince assaults a sleeping woman is your better option? In the original story he was married to someone else, he raped her, impregnated her, she gave birth to twins and one of the babies sucked on her finger and dislodged the cursed splinter to wake her up!

[@samuelancer6649]

Okay so we're going to forget that Eric still made an effort to appear grateful even though he hated an ostentatious gift? And we're going to forget that he got magic roofied? And I'd like to know how good your memory would be after drowning...

[@madestmadhatter]

Samuel Ancer Exactly there's so much wrong about receiving a statue of yourself, but he still tried to look happy about it,

[@lagoonaxjackson]

I'm not bothered by the changing of casts, I'm just disappointed with the video for the lack of real arguments because some of the princes mentioned can be justified by their actions like Eric getting charmed by the sea witch, the almost-canon fact that the Beast was 11 when he had been turned, Mulan's prince is considered a Disney prince by the rules that were bent just for her movie and that Prince Naveen's whole character arch was him being taught to not be a spoiled child.

[@benalexander9669]

Or Prince Phillip, the best prince!

[@kinglewis6553]

If also like to add it did take lee shang a while to come around to the fact his girlfriend was awesome. It took Mulan a while to become awesome they seem to forget she almost failed bootcamp. She had actually been deemed a failure and told to go home before she got it together and passed this is after he spent a long time training her.

[@AnarielAnastil]

The arguments against Eric were weak. You're assuming a ton of things about the guy instead of going on the actual facts presented. One, he almost drowned, in sea water that burns your eyes, so him not recognizing her face is completely understandable. He had been unconscious half a second ago. Then he finds who he thinks is a strange woman on a beach and proceeds to kindly take her home to his palace. How many royal princes take random peasant women they don't know anything about into their palaces? Probably none. And he wasn't easily manipulated, he was magically cursed to find "Vanessa" attractive. Ursula was really powerful. Not even Triton was able to break out of her cursing him to be that shriveled creature thing. As soon as Eric is freed, he's instantly saying Ariel's name and he's clearly excited she can talk. He also directly says he feels bad not knowing her name and tries to guess it, so he did care about her personally beyond "her body". Usually I like After Hours, even when I disagree with the points, but this new cast is trying too hard. They're just coming across as annoying.

[@eoin3117]

I agree. They also took many reasons out of context such as when they said Aladdin tried to magically make her fall in love with him. He never said that in the clip they provided for proof, just mentioned her and stated his prioritys for her, they assumed to much.

[@LukeCuddy]

Agreed. For heavens sake- He piloted a rotting ship, caught in a maelstrom, INTO a living GOD. No one going to bring that up?

[@izzypenguin16]

Thank you!!

[@mistah_chau]

Yea they were reaching with a lot..original group would have murdered this

[@atomosvrial1708]

um sea water doesn't burn your eyes i dont know what seas you've been swimming in but i wouldn't advise returning

[@spectralphantom380]

All three of the "not recognizing faces" accusations were invalid. Eric was sure it was the same girl who saved him, then got confused because she couldn't speak and he was sure the other one could. Jasmine was so eternally unconvinced that Ali wasn't Aladdin that she successfully tricked him into sort-of admitting it. The plan to find Cinderella using only the shoe was ordered by the king without ever consulting the prince.

[@oliverman274]

These people want a movie where all of the main characters have already reached a peak for the character development from the start of the movie and don't want any conflict to happen at all. A perfect movie, with perfect characters, and no drama. Sounds like a pretty crappy movie to me! P.S. I love the new cast, just thought the content of the episode was poorly done.

[@Flynn94]

This video feels about 4 times longer than it actually is

[@robertapuckett6313]

that would make it 38:02 if it was 4x as long

[@Jefstito]

This are the worst kind of episodes.. they leave so many things unsaid because they want to force the conclusion of the video. Sometimes it even sounds like they didnt even watched the movie

[@masonreppeto882]

omg holy shit yea I'm re watching the little mermaid and she was the one ogling him like there's no tomorrow not the other way around. and the Love at first sight was mutual but these fucking idiots try to make it seem like it's one sided.

[@Candyqueen3211]

"This is the worst kind of episode" not "this are" jesus

[@rosestar1324]

I was thinking the same thing. These people are idiots sometimes. And Eric is the best Disney prince.

[@Jefstito]

@@Candyqueen3211 Not my first language, asshole

[@lighthousecreature2841]

they miss a lot of theory-holes in after hours episodes but yeah this one was particularly negligent

[@drebone1986]

So let me get this straight, Aladdin's a bad guy cause he steals food(only) to live and Simba is good because he's a teen who abandoned his entire kingdom because he needs some me time for 7 or so years? Simba was the acting King and refused all responsibility, how is that a good role model for men, especially real princes? Did I miss something or is it wrong to try everything you can to impress a woman who's face you actually do remember? Aladdin went into what was an urban legend and came out with a genie, a magic carpet and his friend so now after wanting a princess and a home for it he's crazy, it's called a dreams/goals people, I'm pretty sure even the man so poor he can't grow nipples still has those! Also Prince Phillip is who you were looking for who fought a fire breathing dragon/sorceress and won in his first 20 mins of knowing Sleeping Beauty so in conclusion: 1: Prince Phillip 2: Aladdin 3: Anybody else cause the rest are all equal by Disney, just eye candy for girls and one's a lion

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Honey, Philip made out with an unconscious woman...he's a sexual predator! O.o

[@RandomPerson-b1s]

To be fair though, Phillip wanted to marry Sleeping Beauty so his relationship with his horse wouldn't raise any suspicion. XD And... well, he also had to make out with her to restart the kingdom. It was either that or drive a sword through her skull.

[@freakyfro99]

@@thesurvivorssanctuary6561 After being told by magical fairies that that would break the curse lol.

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

@@freakyfro99 Is that a euphemism?

[@mr.e7541]

Simba thought he was a responsible for his father's death, and ran for his life basically. Plus he thought scar was the king. And in the end he makes up for his mistakes. I think Eric was still a pretty good prince. The things they blame him for he was under mind control for. I don't get this he only likes her for a looks part. That's why any guy likes a girl until he gets to know her. Are they saying mute women don't deserve love

[@MamoNanomona]

Um. Where TF is Prince Phillip on this list? There's literally nothing bad to be said about Prince Phillip. He was kind, loyal, brave, and truly loved Aurora. WHERE THE EFF IS PRINCE PHILLIP!?!?

[@AMB33ZY]

Mamo Nanomona You mean the Disney prince that committed sexual assaults on a sleeping woman after only knowing her for a couple seconds into a song which she ran away from him terrified because he was a stranger.

[@MamoNanomona]

RoseByChoice No, I mean the Disney Prince that was betrothed to his beloved since they were children, thought she was dead, fell in love with her over again as teenagers thinking she was a peasant girl, and slayed a GD dragon to get to her, and kissed her to break the spell she was under so... Definitely talking about Prince Phillip. From Sleeping Beauty. Whose name was Aurora. And peasant name was Briar Rose. And no, being taken so aback by the devastating beauty of Snow White and sharing a gentle kiss is not sexual assault, idiot. It's a plot device to break the curse she's under and move the story along. Get your stupid Social Justice out of classic animated works of fiction. Stop it.

[@MamoNanomona]

Also, Briar Rose didn't run away from Prince Phillip. She was frightened at first, but then they spoke, and SHE INVITED HIM BACK TO HER PLACE TO MEET THE FAM! uuuuugh

[@calebpeterson3117]

Mamo Nanomona It's more of a worst prince list than a best prince list.

[@SRKStar]

Mamo Nanomona I know right

[@jasminemarble901]

Jasmine did recognize Aladin and she pointed it out when they were in China. He lied to her an said he liked pretending to be poor for fun

[@cordlefhrichter1520]

Are you Jasmine?

[@mateosaevich6886]

jasmine marble I

[@Kaunte]

She seemed pretty surprised when Jafar transformed Aladdin back to his original attire...

[@jasminemarble901]

she was surprised because she discovered that when Aladdin said he was a prince that played poor it was a lie

[@jasminemarble901]

yes, yes I am.

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

wait, what about prince phillip?? sleeping beauty was a disney movie, right..?

[@Bladez10]

Indeed it was. Hmm, fell for Aurora when he thought she was a peasant girl. Though only real con was him just disregard the whole arranged marriage that would unit two kingdoms for some random girl he met that day. It's not that big of a con compared to the princes mentioned in the video.

[@xgray2012]

a m a z o n It is. But, we don't really know about the guy. I mean he's just there because we needed some handsome male eye-candy to just do a musical number with the titular chsracter, and fight off an evil witch that can turn into a dragon just to wake up a damsel-in-distress. That's all Prince Philip is in Sleeping Beauty.

[@xgray2012]

Bladez10 Yeah, but again. That doesn't really define him as a three-dimensional charactef. Yet, he's barely even in the movie. We focus more on Maleficent and the three good fairies than we do on Aurora and Philip as characters.

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

that is true, but to that end what do we really know about prince charming in cinderella?? i mean, prince phillip actually speaks and sings quite a lot in sleeping beauty. at least, from what i remember he does. i don't really remember charming speaking that much in cinderella (although i know he has some lines..)

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

i think he's a solid choice when compared to all the other disney princes, personally. but, hey what do i know?? i'm not a producer or writer for cracked lol.

[@jaykay5922]

Eric not recognising Ariel from saving his life is probably reasonable considered he just almost died and is probably delirious from lack of air.

[@suki16d]

Seriously not even gonna mention Prince Philip?

[@nickgwinner3136]

Sukhdev Brar i think they purposely left that out so they could keep their agenda for the clickbait-y title

[@nicbell8090]

That supercut of the beast yelling had me in tears. Calm down dude 😂

[@MadisonRiden]

Prince Phillip! Ah! This was a little frustrating

[@LifeLostSoul]

OMG Prince Phillip in Sleeping Beauty. They meet each other in the woods, they talk to each other. He doesn't come out saying he is a prince but he doesn't want to freak out the girl that he was attracted to. He shows interest in her after watching her singing to animals, like doing a thing that would reflect on her personality. He didn't just see her as being beautiful. And then they talk to each other and both show interest. He willing to run away with her and give up his Kingdom. He goes to save her after he was already planning on running away with her. He wasn't a random guy to kiss her while she was sleeping.

[@khartog01]

The best prince is Vegeta, Prince of all Saiyans.

[@johnornelas]

Man, coming back and watching in these videos, this is a really great team. I wish fans would have been more receptive to a different team and they'd keep making these, because i think the chemistry of these kids are great together

[@donovanfaust3227]

Well it was mostly because Cracked was bought out by a shittier company who didn't actually care about making great content that this all kind of just stopped.

[@darthcarnage12]

None of your arguments for Eric hold up! Isn't vain but not a dick about the statue; doesn't know why eating fish would be a problem and it's kind of essential for the diet in his kingdom; he tried harder than Ariel to communicate and it's her fault if she refused to write, not his; he almost drowned, so he couldn't see her properly; he was enchanted by witch magic and did not have a choice in almost marrying Ursula.

[@nicapp984]

Also what would mermaids eat if not fish? Seaweed? Almost all fish eat other fish.

[@mr.e7541]

And why is it bad for liking a woman who has a disability

[@tvdv3416]

Simba didn't abandon his kingdom. He was exiled after his Uncle seized the thrown by murdering his father and attempting to murder him.

[@pepupyourstep]

I'm so sad they're gone, I really related to the characters and their chemistry was perfect. Honestly, it was the only reason I watched this show.

[@NoESanity]

wait so simba was just a teenager but the beast wasn't? what kind of double standard bullshit is that

[@realGBx64]

And also, Simba was just a poor knock-off of Kimba from the Japanese TV series, so even ig he's good, he's not good on his own accord. Just a copy-cat.

[@daveshn]

There's a difference between running away from your kingdom because your uncle told you you just killed your father and everyone would kill you vs kidnapping someone and emotionally abusing them until they fall in love with you.

[@sachyriel]

Also Nala was his cousin

[@andreagreenwood5731]

Yeah, cut the guy a break, most teenage boys commit at least one kidnapping!

[@freakout8359]

Andrea Greenwood : XD

[@engteach1680]

My vote goes to Prince Phillip. He likes animals (has a strong friendship/bond with his horse), can dance, is athletic (kills a dragon after fighting his way through a forest of thorns), he's passionate (tells his father he doesn't care if Rose is just a peasant, he still loves her), he's jovial (dances jokingly with his father), he's got a great singing voice, etc.

[@RealSoLucien]

I love the diametric opposition of the line-up as opposed to the regular group. Even the way they are at the table. I really miss this This channel at this time was a collection of amazing writers that together produced genius.

[@BardicLasher]

PHILIP, damnit! It's PRINCE PHILIP!

[@boeufbourgeoisie]

Beast is a sympathetic character. The argument could easily be made that he is the best of the Disney Princes because he had the strongest resolve and character definition. He wasn't a part of Beauty and the Beast JUST because of the promise of pussy. The entire story is a redemption arc where Beast learns to overcome his own insecurities about love-- THROUGH love. That's being courageous, and with a little maturity people can see why this makes him a good role model. He faced his fear, plain and simple. Oh and him being pissed off for half the film was a combination of righteous indignation, panic and frustration involved with being stuck as that ghastly creature for so long. Doesnt make him a bad guy.

[@nevercomestheday]

I actually already really love this cast. So far, I'm loving the double After Hours. Also, you guys totally forgot Prince Phillip from Sleeping Beauty! He was good!

[@vanittahmwangi]

Who are these people

[@wolveskriegfeuersturm1297]

And who find them funny?

[@jacobfranklin820]

Garbage people most likely

[@philngood5955]

I liked em :)

[@johnredmond3313]

Seriously why are there new people. Bring back the OG.

[@hanaomer4940]

john redmond They're not new, they're the creators and writers I think.

[@rachelranderson]

Eric was a good prince-- yeah, he didn't like the statue (because it was ostentatious and way over the top), but he didn't outright say "No way man-- this sucks". And Ariel rescued him when he was basically on the cusp of death via drowning-- he was basically barely conscious. So later, when he sees her, all he does is see a fairly attractive stranded girl on the beach and take her in, letting her live with him and feeds her and gets her a whole new wardrobe. Don't think for a second that he had that stuff just sitting around ready-- there were no noblewomen in that castle. And even if he //was// trying to get into her pants, he did it better than any normal guy. He showed her around the entire kingdom, via carriage, boat, etc-- he even let her steer the horses. And yeah, maybe //he// didn't think of writing, but it wasn't like he hid all of the writing utensils-- did Ariel not have the brains to grab a stick and scratch her name in the dirt? There were signs everywhere in that kingdom-- she had to know //he// knew how to read. He found her washed up on shore with no voice in rags; it's not a huge leap for the times that he'd assume she wasn't educated enough to read/write. Eric = best prince

[@brittanydaniels693]

Raybelle Anderson Also he did recognize her, but he recognized the voice more so when he realized she couldn't talk he figured it couldn't be her.

[@rachelranderson]

Good point-- I mean, how often can you really be certain that a person you're meeting is the same person you met for a minute before, right? Especially if you can't forget their voice from the first time, but the second they're mute? Another point for Eric!

[@Harlekino78]

Ah, thanks. And it is very clear that he didn't fall for Ursula. She put a spell on him / charmed him with Arielles voice! Which negates all their arguments! Eric= Best prince! He only has one fatal flaw for this cast: he is white.

[@DrSmart20]

love how the ruling is your a terrible person if you have prosopagnosia

[@rachelranderson]

which is kind of all the more hilarious since they're so obsessed with how all of these princes are supposedly only focused on looks...

[@jameshill2450]

Did anyone actually research this? I haven't watched most of these movies in years and even I caught a dozen or so mistakes or just very bad arguments/leaps in logic.

[@sweetmeme1987]

so they are calling the beast out for being a bad ruler before the curse a.k.a when he was 11 years old, but they excuse Simba for leaving his kingdom because he was a teenager!! guys you can't have it both ways, either kids are kids and they are allowed to screw up or they are not.

[@nikki._.337]

Omnia Khalid and the argument about Eric is total bullshit.

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

Omnia Khalid In fairness, Simba abandoned his kingdom to escape persecution. The Beast was in a prison of his own making for (supposedly) being selfish, cruel, and arrogant. Simba had to grow up to be able to handle the situation he was put in, where the Beast's situation (as far as the movie tells us) was one he could've prevented at any time. It's definitely a double-standard, but one that I can see the reasoning behind.

[@buciallstar]

Simba faced persecution and death if he stayed. I think it's a good reason for a child to run away.

[@ssun9074]

To be fair, the new canon from the live-action movie shows that before the Beast was a Beast he was a selfish prince in his 20s. Depending on what canon you go by the argument could be valid or null.

[@kadychapman5350]

av Going by the original animated movie and the Broadway musical, the live action movies should be taken with a grain of salt. More cannon suggests he was only a boy when it happened. Even in the live action they never specify how long they've been cursed, but it has to be for a shorter period than 10 years since we see beast is clearly not that young in the beginning, but he still ages in beast form due to the rules of the spell "the last petal falls on his 21st birthday". But if we debate cannon with every live action remake that comes out, there will be some VERY messed up cannon.

[@troyom]

I thought prince Eric was drawn to Ariel because, while he didn’t directly recognize her as the person who saved him, He felt a connection and tried to pursue it.

[@aaronsmith1023]

What about the prince from Sleeping Beauty? You know, the guy who literally fought an evil enchantress who transformed into a dragon that breathed green fire and kept Aurora under her spell???

[@ohheyemmi]

You mean the guy who sexually assaulted a stranger while she slept because she was pretty?

[@KristinaLopezWrites]

Ya’ll just forget about Prince Phillip, for real?!👀🤨💜

[@rachel_sj]

No mention of Prince Phillip from Sleeping Beauty?

[@someonemore4603]

Rachel S he kissed a sleeping girl its to simple why he sucks

[@rachel_sj]

Cristy Secret Yeah but at least Aurora and Phillip knew and fell in love with each other beforehand

[@BlackCover95]

Cristy Secret He kissed a sleeping girl to break the spell he knew she was under. Hard to see why that's awful.

[@AMB33ZY]

Rachel S You mean the Disney prince that committed sexual assaults on a sleeping woman after only knowing her for a couple seconds into a song which she ran away from him terrified because he was a stranger.

[@kyleellis9177]

how many times are you going to copy and paste that without actually thinking about it. its not assaults... it was a single kiss so only one assault. then you need to realize this was the woman he was giving up his kingdom to marry and either knows about the curse and how to break (maybe Snowwhites prince told how he broke his spell? he finds her in a deathlike state and it felt like a goodbye kiss. is it a sexual assault if you kiss a dead relative? she was scared of strangers because her whole life 3 fairies were lieing to her and had her terrified of strangers. then you need to realize he knew her for alot longer then a few seconds. enough time to go and slay a dragon takes atleast 10 minutes for the fight and travel time lol horses really dont go that fast so yeah likekly 3-5 days minimum

[@thedashboard9562]

I enjoy this squad. Also, Simba might be the best Disney prince, but he's still doing it with his half-sister.

[@lighthousecreature2841]

lion biology :/

[@olivejuice1424]

What about Hercules?? Hello, dude was adorable and earned his god status

[@fischermusicofficial]

Olive Juice Hercules was a Demigod. Plus it was Ancient Greece, meaning there was no kind of hierarchy Bc democracy and stuff

[@olivejuice1424]

Danny Abraham I said he EARNED his god status. He was welcomed back home to live with the gods (which you can only do if you are a god), but chose to remain a demigod for love and whatnot. And among the gods there was a hierarchy. Nobody voted zeus in, right?

[@bellen3304]

**hunkules

[@HikariMichi42]

There wasn't only democracy in Ancient Greece, it's just the birthplace of it.

[@aesinam]

Olive Juice he's not a Disney Prince lol

[@Uriel238]

Firstly (and more pedantically) all Aladdin said while wish-scheming was _See, there's this girl._ And Genie assumed (as we saw he was prone to do) that Aladdin was thinking about making sure Jasmine loves him. But the bigger more curious issue is that Aladdin didn't ask to be _disguised_ as a prince, but rather made into one. A bona fide prince, like say a _ruler of a principality_ or _heir to a kingdom._ I'd think that Genie's _phenomenal cosmic powers_ should have been able to conjure up a tidy fief somewhere with happy followers and a stable economy. Said powers were sure able to transfer the entitlements of the sultanate of Agrabah when Jafar started his wishing. So I would argue that Aladdin intended only to make himself eligible to marry a sultan's daughter, and Genie shortchanged him, so he had to go in as a pretender, rather than a real royal with real lands. (In the _Thousand Nights and a Night_ version of Aladdin, the genie of the lamp -- not to be confused with the genie of the ring -- was not powerful enough to conjure kingdoms from thin air. He was also permanently on lamp-duty thanks to the King Solomon's binding magic. King Solomon was big on capturing and binding djinn, ifrit and even angels. Also Aladdin was a Chinese thief from a proud family of skilled burglars, and was taking care of his aging -- and thiefy -- mother.)

[@ChickenGeorgeClooney]

Prince Phillip is the best prince tho

[@Lily-gu5pi]

THANK U

[@ProeliiatorProDeus]

Of course it is. Dude fixed his hat, shook his own hand, and even his horse had to nod in approval

[@Akwatypus]

There it is!

[@DragonLandlord]

Jackson DeStefano one dance in the forest is enough to make you want to fight a dragon sorceress to rescue the girl?

[@benalexander9669]

He's the Prince that doesn't let anything stand between him and his love. Not distance. Not thorns. Not a motherfucking dragon. Not even Death. After all of his Herculean trials, he comes across the corpse of his beloved, he plants a chaste kiss for the love they had on her lips. (I discard any charges of necrophilia, he gave her a peck, not like he was making out with a dead body.) And all of these feats he does after she falls for him as well. Totally consensual hero. This is in a kingdom where it is common for the royalty and common folk to drink themselves into stupors after pissing off a massively powerful Unseelie Fae without regard for how she will respond. He's the man who steps up and does the job. He commands loyalty. What other horse would follow a man's order to charge towards a freaking dragon? Only Samson. Phillip is the prince that Nala wants Simba to be, and he doesn't even need a harem to do it.

[@PittsburghSportsFan43]

Simba didn't abandon his kingdom. He was a child who literally just lost his father, was told by his uncle he would be blamed, then had to outrun hyenas so he wouldn't die. Simba grew up believing he was responsible for Mufasa's death, and that's why he stayed away. When he realized what Scar was doing back home and that HE was the rightful king he went home, defeated Scar and took back the Pride Lands. He didn't even realize he wasn't guilty in his dad's death til AFTER he got back to Pride Rock and Scar nearly killed him. He didn't worry about being punished for that when he chose to go home, he just thought the kingdom needed him and it was time. Shows growth that you don't typically get with a lot of characters in Disney movies.

[@Game_Source]

I don't completely agree. Just because the guys weren't absolutely perfect and have character flaws (like pretty much everyone in the world has), they are not good role models, even when they were very helpful and even saved the lives of the princesses? People have their flaws and certain things they have to deal with and grow upon as a person. And at the end of the day, most of these princes were genuinely okay people either after they have had time to grow or from the very beginning even. In Beast's case, which may have been the "worst" prince, I can kind of understand why he was the way he was at first. Some witch shows up and curses him and his entire staff when he was young just because he would not invite her in or something and tells him he and his staff will be cursed forever if he does not find love somehow as a gigantic monster. I can kind of understand why he is the way he is in the beginning.

[@Silly-Slacker-Person]

I like cat sweater girl!

[@cate3235]

Silly Slacker Person Kimya

[@LittleMacscorner]

LOLO< the best and most self aware Cracked video yet! This is why I love you guys!

[@stuartdriedger]

i love this crew who isn't bored with their content. it's fantastic

[@meinenklinke]

Y'all avoiding Prince Phillip because you know he's perfect. Ahah!

[@SurrealKeenan]

I'm just waiting for a strong disney prince who doesn't need the validation of a woman also, why does cody look scared the whole time he isn't talking?

[@madestmadhatter]

SurrealKeenan because they yell at him when he does talk.

[@kunli2952]

Kuzco?

[@codyofathens3397]

Because he's terrified he's going to to reveal more about his foot fetish. XD Seriously, though, that's just his style. He's an awesome actor.

[@SrtaLJCarneiro]

Because he's a bad actor

[@Sajirah]

...Maui? He seems pretty damn sure of himself.

[@SageDemonFox]

8:08 that moment when Cody realizes Aladdin doesn't have nipples is easily the funniest part in the video 😂😂

[@androssteague]

Their arguments to why some of these princes were bad weren't solid. I would get into why but no one wants to read that long.

[@musicf3b]

They make a lot of bad argument in a tone that I can only assume is serious. Ex. "Forced her to eat her friends"...define 'forced'

[@lonelydreddhead6676]

musicf3b also his kingdom is near the ocean what the he'll else are they supposed to eat? And what you're telling me that Ariel doesnt eat anything but seaweed? NOT BUYING IT.

[@godbearxd]

Hercules is, was, and forever will be the best Disney prince. Fight me!

[@walearr]

Vikki DC while yes, hr is demigod, his father is zeus, who is kinda king of gods, so hes also prince, no?

[@godbearxd]

walearr Exactly!

[@PittBullBytes]

demigod doesn't mean prince, even if your daddy was zeus. otherwise, there would be thousands o---- wait i'm thinking of the mythological version not the disney version where disney is too afraid to bring up adultery

[@JavierFernandez01]

While Zeus holds the throne he is king and that keeps Hercules as prince. Unless Kronos is still alive.. they should do a deity based Disney movie. Mazda, shiva, jesus, oden, quetzelcoatil, demiurge, lilith, kronos, the whole thing takes place in a turtle! Yeeea!!!

[@thomasveerman4532]

Rudy Sanchez And then they should call it American Gods xD

[@isabelleoh-criner6697]

This was kinda dumb, they all completely disregarded the princes' character arcs. They all started out with flaws but, through the events of the film, they overcame obstacles and came out better for it. Naveen was less selfish, the Beast was more patient and.. less selfish, Aladdin learned what it meant to care for other people rather than just serving his own interests and coming to terms with greater responsibility. You can't just say Simba is the best because you accept his character development but not Naveen's or Beast's or Aladdin's. Less Significant Argument ahead!! The more one dimensional princes such as Prince Charming and Eric were created that way because the film's main focus was on the heroines. The Prince acts simply as the reward Cinderella gets for 1, being good and hardworking and 2, for disobeying her oppressive family to sneak out. He doesn't get a character arc because he's not the focus, so you can't really judge him. Also, idk if this counts, but in the third Cinderella movie, even though the slipper fits Anastasia, he knows that she's not who he danced with so he (before placed under the spell) dismissed her. He found her with the shoe yes, but I think it was simply to narrow down the search. For Eric, he is given a little bit more but he still remains largely untouched. He is a vehicle to move the plot but he's not the focus, again, it's Ariel. Neither Eric nor Charming have obvious flaws that need to be resolved, so it's really impossible to judge such one-dimensional characters. Also, side note, look at the titles for the movies where the princes have a true character arc vs the ones where they don't. Beauty *and the Beast*, The Princess *and the Frog*, *Aladdin*, and *The Lion King* they have the main characters' names in them. Then look at Cinderella and The Little Mermaid, the princes aren't mentioned at all.

[@THEHAPPYBOX]

WTF! Who the hell are these people?

[@thominyourside231]

Isabelle Oh-Criner That's literally all that this show is. You're just looking for things to complain about

[@krystalrios4880]

HELLO!! Prince Phillip ring a bell? He selflessly fought Maleficent's dragon monster just to free Aurora after falling in love with her after one dance!!

[@TroutBoneless]

"does the P in PMS stand for Person?" lmaoooo

[@nicolaofmiddlewest159]

You know, when these were new, I didn't like the new people at the table. The change from one set of friends to a new set made me uncomfortable. But watching them now, I find that I really like these four people and wish that we would have gotten to see more of them!

[@monicariccio9132]

Y'all are totally leaving out Flynn Rider. I know he isn't a 'prince', but not even a mention, really?

[@jacobgarsson2447]

I'd like to point out that WE know Ariel can write. Why would Eric assume that the mystery girl who doesn't understand forks would be literate when the vast majority of the people at the time weren't? I don't remember her making any particular effort to find a pen or paper in that movie.

[@AvantelWulf]

This cast doesn't have definable enough personalities like the other. They all blend together in what exactly they are supposed to be (like how Dan is nerdy, Michael is weird, etc)

[@kurtlindner]

Yeah, they need to more strongly identify each of their characters. Cody is pretty good, he's just himself all the time anyway; there still seems like potential though.

[@AshArAis]

AvantelWings Yeah if they settle into roles it'll get its own groove :)

[@derekconnors4128]

AvantelWings that's really my only complaint so far. Unfortunately it's kind of a big problem they need to address. After Hours' popularity doesn't come from the setting or the topics, it comes from watching the unique personalities and viewpoints work off of each other. This cast needs to work on establishing their personalities for them to become a true substitute for the classic cast.

[@billbill6094]

You guys dismissed Simba from abandoning his kingdom because he was a teenager. May I remind you that so was the Beast. He should get a pass if Simba is.

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

bill bill Both the Beast and Simba are assholes. I've seen better anime characters not being portrayed as assholes before... For example Akito from Code Geass Akito the Exiled beats the shit out of Leila's family members in a public building; him/her are talking on a public balcony to make sure both of them are okay; both have interests in reading literature, and both of them are intelligent both in book smarts, but as well as military smart as well...

[@go5thhour]

These new characters need some rounding. With the others, it is more diverse and settled: Dan is crazy smart, Soren is the straight man (though very rich), Michael is a wild card, and Katie is all about equality, etc. These 4 they all just kind of seem like the same person. The script for this video didnt help though. Even the main crew couldnt have argued these points in a pleasant manner. We get it, cartoons dont fully flesh out their characters and sometimes do things like face blindness for the sake of a plot. This just came off super nitpicky.

[@Pinkpalacethink]

Will Harwood I

[@derekconnors4128]

Will Harwood yeah, you hit the nail on the head. I'm open to a new group, but so far this one lacks what makes the classic group so beloved: their personalities and perspectives. For this group to last, they NEED to flesh out these characters.

[@laughingjack85]

Will Harwood The whole basis of their personalities seems to come from the four humors. The old cast did an episode where most TV shows have four characters that have a certain personality. Both casts of After Hours follow this. Similar to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Blue for the characteristics of a leader (cool headed, assertive, charismatic), orange with traits of the fun one (energetic, goofy, wild), purple for intelligence (smart, more introverted, hard working), and red for passion (angry, determined, hot headed). If you look closely they both follow the same pattern. The only difference is the reverse of genders. I have no bloody idea why people are bit*hing so much about it.

[@derekconnors4128]

Alexander Hada there are trace elements of those 4 archetypes in these new characters, but they seem to fade away once the discussion actually starts. Like Carmen's character seems to be introverted similar to Dan, and boat girl (sorry, haven't learned her name yet) is the goofy Swaim type. But as they discuss the topic at hand, these traits fall more to the wayside, and they seem to speak with the same voice. In the original crew, their personalities inform what stance they'll take and what ideas they'll bring to the table. I'm not really seeing that here.

[@janegibson7623]

Boat girl's name is Kimia, btw! :)

[@TheLastSane1]

Also Aladdin never tried to make Jasmine love him with a wish. He just mentions he likes this girl. Genie cuts him off.

[@mistressofgotham942]

Prince Naveen!!! He evolved From spoiled prince to responsible, working husband😊

[@artierobertson3898]

The waitress got character development!!!!

[@nitrousoxide69]

TWO after hours is great! Yes keep it up guys!

[@MisterMiyata]

Some of these observations... for Eric, he DID recognise her, despite being semi-conscious when first meeting her. He says as much, but then thinks he's mistaken when he realises she can't sing, which is the stronger memory. Also, clearly mind controlled when the witch shows up, not just easily manipulated. Aladdin was the biggest stretch to fit the narrative. Yes, he just met her, but you even pointed out, they'd started bonding, there's no reason to think he didn't want to get to know her better. He didn't want to mind control her, nor was he being a prince just to deceive people that he was better, he was only doing it because there was a law that said that was his only chance. If the law said she could only marry lizard-people he would have wished to be that. He didn't know she didn't want to marry a prince, but either way, there's the law. You're right, she probably should have remembered him, though, like Eric, she did almost recognise him, but is disappointed when she thought she was mistaken. And gas lighting? How? Gaslighting is to try to convince someone that their reality is wrong. He BECAME an actual prince, that's what the wish was. He wasn't lying to say he was a prince, the genie transformed him into one, he only lied to suggest he was a prince who sometimes disguised himself as a peasant. Again, this was an unnecessary lie since she cared for him when they bonded in the market, but from his point of view, if he wasn't a prince, he didn't have a legal chance. Also, it was rather sudden that he had to think of something to say. The "winner", Simba, gets a pass for letting his kingdom fall into ruin and everyone in it suffer because he should go "live a little", but Aladdin, also a teenager by the way, gets raked over the coals for trying to give himself a legal chance to get to know Jasmine, and in a rather awkward and nervous moment gave a mostly harmless lie.

[@fleurza1203]

The man looks EXACTLY like Daniel.

[@samrobacker346]

Fleur Griffin I thought i was the only one who noticed

[@isaiahbright7546]

I think he's too similair they should make them more different so we don't consider them just a repeat of the other ones.

[@WikiK1d]

This was actually nice. I like how they react to each other. The first episode was kind of forced but they seem to take a hang of it now. They act differently from the original cast, which is great since I wouldn't want the new cast to be exact copies. I can imagine my own group of friends being like that. They could be the "Mildly smart about trivia gang".

[@cferracini]

What's wrong with Prince Philip from Sleeping Beauty?

[@Femmeaesthetic]

You guys miss the point, Eric fall for Ariel cause she saved him, and he never seen a women (mermaid) do like that before

[@jonahwashburn1163]

who is that Prince from sleeping beauty? sure we don't know much about him, but what we do know is that he had a chill date with his princess, got kidnapped by a whitch who claims to wield the powers of hell, escaped with the help of some faries, and then wastes no time before fighting a flipping Dragon (powers of hell witch) and then freeing his girl from a curse and living happily after? he wasn't first attracted to sleeping beauty because of looks, but because she had a talented voice. so he was interested in her character, so he isn't one dimensional. and plus, he killed a hell witch/Dragon. in case I didn't mention that. the closest to him is Eric, because Eric's people at least seem happy with him and he used a shipwreck to kill an angry sea goddess. these two deserve more respect.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Jonah Washburn Philip

[@BABYEARL2]

I'm sick of watching that fruit of the loom commercial

[@TheSacha83]

then just don't watch it, try stoicism

[@BABYEARL2]

My feelings are valid and should be expressed.

[@HeirOfGlee]

It's like their only commercial too.

[@ThadiusMeyers]

Me too.

[@KDub57]

But how can I buy them online?

[@DeathGodRiku]

I actually like this group. Still prefer the classic crew

[@theboss-ky2gn]

Technically she also only saw him and fell in love with him based on his body and probally saved him for the same reason too

[@mastrheartsxiii]

Some of those were the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. Like you already established Prince Eric was mind controlled. And that's just one argument that was dumb.

[@ed118520]

Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Simba literally wished for his dad's death, " I can't wait to be King" more like "I can't wait for my dad to die"

[@Monica-br8pi]

edward gray He didn't want him to die *that* soon tho. (Point still stands tho.

[@AndreinneLawrence]

edward gray he was a kid, tho, during that song. I doubt he realized the implications of it.

[@ed118520]

But for sure the adults who wrote the movie and most likely the song realized what his wish entailed. Mufasa meets his demise within a few scenes of that song. Almost as if it was pretty subtle foreshadowing. I give it super props but have seen it go unnoticed for too long

[@saulgallagher5668]

Prince Soren is my favourite prince. And yes I know cracked is dead, but it's still true.

[@crabapplesinc2401]

ok but Simba didn't just leave for the sake of it, he was threatened be his uncle, he was scared. Did they forget that?

[@PsychoGamer2100]

In Prince Erik's defence when she saved him he didn't even know if it was a hallucination or not since he was suffering from a severe lack of air, Ursula's singing is what was making him fall in love with her, I don't think they had invented sign language yet, and when he made her eat fish he didn't know she was a mermaid. He also killed an giant evil sea witch for her. Also if I was given a big statue of myself for my birthday I would feel awkward too and he wasn't ungrateful since they have tons of money so they could have payed for a lot of those statues with ease and the people who made it were just doing what they were payed to do.

[@kinglewis6553]

He was basically just a mortal that was caught up in the power struggle of good and demigods

[@helenatroyo]

I'm gone for 2 weeks and y'all change the cast on me?

[@cracked]

We now have two casts. Two shows a month.

[@Ciphonn]

Isn't he a newsperson?

[@ChestersonJack]

Venu GOPAL JOSHI He's also been a waiter here

[@joecollas9942]

Venu GOPAL JOSHI ya a baf one at that to

[@kurtlindner]

-and here's, some news.

[@MohamedHassan-yc6ft]

The criticism of Prince Eric was stupid, petty and by extension of other conversations from this series insanely hypocritical. They pretty much wanted this decent disney character to have the exact "right" thoughts just because.