After Roe, Republicans suddenly must face the consequences of their anti-abortion policies

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

Republicans on Abortion: "Make abortion illegal!" Republicans on having to wear a mask during Covid: "MY BODY MY CHOICE!"

[@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot]

And they use this in the reverse about abortions. Somehow they don't know the difference between things that harm others and things that don't

[@juju-xx5xn]

Right??

[@ssshar2176]

When covid actually hurt others if you didn’t mask up… but your abortion affects me how????

[@haroldmaynor9161]

it's a joke 'cause pro-choice people will use wordcraft to make it seem like they are not sacrificing a child on the altar of convenience and time. They say their child is tumor that belongs to them. The glaring difference is, anyone outside a doctor office removing it will serve prison time. So, once a someone comes to the (rational) conclusion that child /= mother, it lands as rationally as the left genetically stereotyping to stop genetic stereotyping. At the same time the left cannot attack their own slogan in an instance it truly applies. No studies or common sense have shown that masks do anything to prevent spread (not even 3). No vaccine prevents spread, and for some reason people lose their minds to live with the fact that there is no precaution you can take to keep yourself from getting a virus even half the deer have. Roe overturned just mean the states pick laws individually, I don't understand the left always lobbying for Big Brother and acting like they hate it. Just admit you want more government control, more big pharma, move on.

[@milehighgimpster]

​@@ssshar2176 Abortion kills a baby! Covid just makes you sick.

[@mnoir8888]

Thanks to Joy for calling out that the nine month abortion does not exist. That needs to be said over and over and over.

[@TheJLH]

You should look up the interview Nicole Wallace had with Chris Christie on this very topic. As long as you’re into throwing your phone across the room.

[@EJayMD-11]

I hate it's not called out more often.

[@wcg19891]

Then you wouldn’t have any issue banning abortions in the 9th month right?

[@jmash7751]

@wcg1989. Your comment just drives home the point that when it comes to abortion, the utter lack of education on the subject is astonishing. The ONLY reason a woman would NEED a termination of a late term pregnancy is purely for life threatening reasons. No woman would casually decide to terminate a pregnancy at that point, nor would anyone perform it. But by all means, continue to promote that it should be illegal, thereby ensuring the probable death of the mother. And you call yourself pro-life? If you are going to take a stance on something, at least EDUCATE yourself on all the complexities involved. Terminating a pregnancy is NOT a cut and dried matter.

[@paulherring8959]

@@wcg19891 Hey dummy. Roe vs Wade banned abortions after 23 weeks. All Democrats and progressives are seeking to accomplish is to keep that same standard in place Roe or no Roe. Now tell me what you'd do about a woman who is beyond 23 weeks and then discovers she has a pregnancy that is totally non viable and endangers her life?

[@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354]

Republicans cried "My body my choice" when it referred to a piece of cloth.

[@michelrockp]

And when getting a vaccine was the smart thing to do! But then again, nobody ever accused a Magat of being intelligent. 🤷‍♂️

[@YoshiYosheda]

Actually they said that too during COVID because they didn't want to get vaccinated.

[@mcmlxii4419]

@@YoshiYosheda That's what they meant.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@@mcmlxii4419 OP said "Piece of cloth"

[@jamessmith-pf5zf]

It is no accident that the white nationalist christain Talban and maga are so closely associated. BOTH cults reek of hypocrisy.

[@maartenvandam344]

A politician who doesn't judge people for not voting for her party. You wouldn't, would you, because that takes courage. Hillary Clinton, despite her many faults, had the courage to call Trump supporters what they are. A bag of deplorables. People got their panties in a twist over that, but January 6 2021 proved she was spot on with that characterisation. Hillary Clinton was right about Trump, and his deplorables.

[@deborahedelman2659]

👍

[@jackstrubbe7608]

FULL TILT. I voted for Hillary ONLY because the available option was SO deplorable, and here we are.

[@pricklypear7516]

It was a "basket of deplorables," and Hillary severely misjudged what a BIG basket it was. It was an utterly tone-deaf thing to say, but I don't think it cost her the election. The media attention to Trump and his antics cost her the election (having already eclipsed legitimate Republican candidates). And it's going to happen again. The media chooses our candidates LONG before we ever even get to vote.

[@sylviagoodman6008]

What are Hillary's faults? To my knowledge, she is an accomplished, intelligent, knowledgeable woman who would have been an excellent president.

[@markdalbey]

Was it smart politics though? Because something is right doesn't make it smart. Saying what you say is right, very well could have given us four years of Donald Trump. Maybe she would have been smarter if she would have kept her mouth shut. You have an ugly and stupid friend. You would be right if you said to their face that they were ugly and stupid, but that may not be the smartest thing in the world to say. By saying it you may have just lost a friend.

[@franknemeth7430]

Pure Autocrat fascism - in your bedroom and your Doctors office = The Republican party .

[@deborahedelman2659]

👍👍

[@jackstrubbe7608]

They WANT an autocratic theocracy, BOTH against the constitution. VOTE THEM OUT. Our lives depend on it.

[@philiplieu3889]

Also in schools and people’s love lives.

[@mr.september2879]

Just like forced vaccinations by Democrats.

[@jansilverthorn777]

“The government of the nation has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.” Canada’s official stance since the 1960’s!!!! You’re not as “free” as you’ve been told you are. You do not have the freedoms that other countries enjoy.

[@reason6835]

Republicans should really stop talking about a national abortion ban. It’s absurd.

[@jonathanboam5409]

Yet they clutch their pearls when anyone mentions potential national restrictions (not even a ban) on firearms.

[@NewSocialistEraVideos]

They just can't/won't help themselves and it'll keep costing them DEARLY in the upcoming elections!

[@reason6835]

@@jonathanboam5409: Yeah. They’re deathly afraid that the government is going to “take their guns” which is just as absurd. Neither of those things are going happen.

[@dodgygoose3054]

Republicans are massivly backed by evangelical Christians who are pushing this fascist religious zealot insainity.

[@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354]

No, let them talk about it. It's helping Democrats.

[@SS-jb8wj]

You don't hear the anti-abortionists talking about banning vasectomies. I mean, isn't that stopping babies being born. You heard the GOP and Mike Johnson. We need these births to bolster the population and to have workers instead of people being on Social Security. Nothing to do with telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies. Fairs fair, men need to be told what they can and can't do with their bodies.

[@user-ij6vg8xq2r]

Fair is fair, equal treatment for men under the law is important too!

[@juju-xx5xn]

The Republicans keep saying the quiet parts out loud. Pay attention to what they say.

[@loribethartist6353]

Not to mention they don’t support programs to help single mothers and children after they are born! It’s pro “birth”, not pro “life”!

[@MartijnHover]

Don't make the mistake of thinking that if the religious right gets the power they won't go after vasectomy, or all other forms of contraception.

[@EndFright]

Hey, maybe if they want more babies to be born, perhaps they should support policies that make it easier for lower-income Americans to support another human being for the first 18 years of life. Oh wait, I forgot that that would be Socialism. How terrible that would be for people to have the choice rather than be forced either by their wallet or their government.

[@BrattyBetty]

Bodily autonomy means my body is for me; my body is my own. It's about power, and it's about agency. It's about choice, and it's about dignity. Bodily autonomy is the foundation for gender equality, and above all, it's a fundamental right.

[@reason6835]

I think abortion should be allowed in early stages, but nobody has “bodily autonomy.” There are many things you can’t do with (or to) your body. That argument isn’t very strong.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@@reason6835 Well don't believe the republicans claiming that babies can be aborted up until birth, and 30 days after. Those are lies

[@Rnankn]

I think reproduction is a social question, but I also think women should be in charge

[@Noreb]

@@reason6835 doctors disagree with your opinion.

[@sallyj4209]

It's about the unborn rights, not your body and there are not going to be any super Roe v Wade power in this country

[@Bebe.B.]

Pro choice state ballot issues introduced: 7 and then passed by voters: 7 That is a 100% success rate!

[@markdalbey]

You forgot to say that all 7 of those ballots were overwhelmingly passed, even in very red states like Kansas. In a way anti abortion nuts are slowly nationalizing abortion.

[@philgroves7694]

Preach it Joy!!! She is spot-on brilliant!!!

[@markdalbey]

The country is center right and has been that way for over 100 years and is not changing any time soon. Joy Reed is incredibly liberal. She is "'preaching" to about 10% of the population. Tucker Carlson is "preaching" to the other 10% of the population on the other side of the spectrum. Do you mind telling me what is so "brilliant" and "spot on" about either of them?

[@michaeltutty1540]

I have a friend who NEEDED a late term aborton. Her first fetus was devrloping without a fully formed and functional medulla oblligata. The part that triggers breathing was simply absent. There was no way the fetus, once born, was going to be able to breathe. Knowing this she had to carry to term because late stage abortion (she was entering her 3rd trimester) was illegal in her State.

[@nb-user25]

Traumatic

[@annalieff-saxby568]

​@@nb-user25You took the word out of my mouth.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

She couldn't have traveled for medical care?

[@thumbob]

Then is a medical decision not a moral one.

[@Fogmeister]

@@thumboband definitely not a state one.

[@d.k.9953]

Let's take away a women's right to choose in 2023 and be popular? Lol!! Enjoying watching the GOP dig deeper and deeper into this ditch.

[@Tylerd838]

Why should a 9 month baby be aborted

[@d.k.9953]

Simple: its none of your business. @@Tylerd838

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

@@Tylerd838doesn’t matter. It’s not your baby, it’s not your call.

[@fisheyenomiko]

@@Tylerd838 Do you have any examples of this happening?

[@Tylerd838]

@@ILoveGrilledCheese so a fully developed baby should be dismantled and killed?

[@katherineblakely7142]

They do think voters are stupid. They're continuing to look stupid themselves though, and it's going to get even worse!

[@darrellmarsh9036]

Yes days by day until they stop being a fool for trump and disown him. He still liars about the vote and people going to jail are telling the courts to get a light sentence.republicans you better tell this clown to fall back

[@felang9257]

Their base are stupid and thats is who they are performing for.

[@hx8mx]

The voter's may vote them out!

[@michaeldunson2531]

Republicans voters are stupid! They fall for the same things over and over! Like they care about the national debt but when they are in charge they spend like they just got a new credit card with no limit!

[@TheMonroemomma]

Well, to be fair, their voters ARE stupid. That is a key characteristic of the modern republican voter - stupidity. That's why they are able to believe that women are Aborting full-term babies at nine months. I believe that is not even legal once a baby is viable outside of the womb.

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

Disclaimer and Trigger warning: This video contains copious amounts of truth and common sense. These values have been found to break what ever MAGA cultists use to think with.

[@forexed8948]

Before Roe there were back alley clinics, too many women died. During Roe many lives were saved, and many women could go on to having children THEY wanted. After Roe, there are back alley clinics, many women will die, some states have it, some don't.

[@youreterriblemuriel5903]

Republicans don't actually care if women die.

[@forexed8948]

@@youreterriblemuriel5903 especially if they aren't rich, white, or their sect of christian.

[@allangibson8494]

And maternal mortality in the United States is three to six times as high as any other developed country (32.9 deaths per 100,000 births (2021 figures)).

[@annalieff-saxby568]

True. Banning abortion won't make it disappear. It will just become more dangerous. I'm old enough to remember crochet hooks and back alleys: never again.

[@erinmiller1433]

@@youreterriblemuriel5903They actually like being able to point to deaths from illegal abortions and say “That’s what you get.”

[@terireed3740]

If you're deciding to not keep your baby at 9 months your only option is putting him or her up for adoption. There's no physical way to terminate a pregnancy at 9 months without a traumatic accident occuring. These people must think we're just plain stupid.

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

70 million Trump voters: "DID SOMBUDDY SAY STOOPID!?"

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

Yeah, they literally believe women are having abortions a few minutes after their water breaks lol

[@satiricgames2129]

It's not us that's stupid it's conservative values that are

[@allangibson8494]

Actually terminating a pregnancy at nine months is occasionally medically essential to save the mother. The Irish total abortion ban ended when it became public knowledge that it killed a mother. The Republicans also won’t support supporting single mothers either…

[@annalieff-saxby568]

Most of them don't actually know, or want to find out, what an abortion entails. They have been propagandised by visions of miniature, perfect babies, cowering in the womb while demonic doctors slice them up with scalpels, instead understanding the simple D&C procedure involved.

[@mrsdraper171]

Vote all Republicans out of office.

[@dont6441]

Great idea

[@christopherthorn1906]

When gardening, sometimes you have to do some drastic pruning in order to obtain a healthy plant next season. Even lefty Democrats would appreciate a not-crazy Republican party.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

@@christopherthorn1906 Pruning shouldn't mean killing defenseless human beings though... Killing defenseless human beings to make your life easier needs to be illegal.

[@christopherthorn1906]

@@mathildeyoung1823 So why does the GOP care so little about these human beings AFTER they are born? They are aggressively working to stop any money going to the health and welfare of children. Why does the pro-life party do nothing about school shootings? Please work to help the post-born who are actual human beings.

[@TalonMerlin777]

​@@christopherthorn1906When you say "not crazy," you mean another Democrat party. I dunno who you're trying to persuade here... All ya'll serm pretty similarly braindead.

[@miguelpaul1164]

Why don't they care about life already here??? Why care more about fetus than babies here??? Instead they say cut welfare let them starve, cut Medicaid, cut regulations so corporations can hire kids.

[@Rnankn]

Because it is actually about race. They care about white babies being raised in traditional families. They think race is destiny, and they’ll be “replaced”.

[@starling5188]

The righteous Republicans that insist on forced births should be also forced to adopt all the extra babies..

[@nb-user25]

Because it’s a hot issue they thought would bring in Republican votes.

[@kellydalstok8900]

It’s about controlling 50% of the population, using a Bronze Age mindset in the 21st century.

[@fionam7768]

The Republican incompetence at discussing abortion repeats what happened in the Trump era with healthcare "well it *won't* be Obamacare". Fine, we got that: what *will* it be?" [crickets] It's lots of fun being the party without policies until, of course, you need a policy and the opposition won't give a new so you can hate on it. And to do anything else - we'll, that would be learning and then the next thing we'll all be woke....😢

[@johnbrowneyes7534]

When it was first called Romneycare it was fine with Republicans. When it passed under Obama they say they are against it.

[@jalv509]

At this point, I say have abortion access on the ballot in every state and every district. Have the republican senators and representatives support total abortion bans and let's see what happens with congressional numbers.

[@1cosmicGirl]

We’ll never get abortion access on the ballot in Texas. To get a matter that requires a state constitutional amendment on the ballot requires 2/3 of the House majority (both House and Senate). Regular bills require a simple majority.

[@katenoke1571]

As cosmic girl says, some states aren't interested in their citizens being able to participate in changing policy

[@katenoke1571]

Those states would need to elect Democrats

[@SunniyaLA]

My sister lost 2 pregnancies... the babies were lost, (not aborted. the ignorance smh) when she was 9 months pregnant. 1st time a baby girl and the 2nd time, her twins. No woman is getting an abortion at late terms. I know of women who got abortions the 1st or 3rd month and it's their right because it's their bodies.

[@sparkle3000]

This is not about supporting or not supporting abortion. This is about a woman's right to choose. Its her body! If men would do what they're supposed to do women would be having lots of babies. That's not the case. Let's talk about fathers not present and starting other families, not taking care of the first set of children. Then coming back when those children are successful? 😟 Single mothers did that!

[@Tylerd838]

why should a 9 month baby be aborted

[@youreterriblemuriel5903]

@@Tylerd838 SHUT UP!!!!! STOP!

[@daviddrake5991]

@@Tylerd838 Like you should have been?

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

Don’t blame men. That’s what they want you to do. Don’t play their game.

[@Tylerd838]

@@daviddrake5991 that’s not a good counter point, why should a 9 month baby get aborted?

[@Noneofyourbizniz1]

An it bugs me when the moderators don’t correct them on that “up to birth “ abortion lie. They need to call them out and don’t let it slide. Smh.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

If someone is using the bodily autonomy bs to try to justify abortion they HAVE TO support abortion for ANY reason a woman wants after viability. They need to stand up loud and proud and say "I support a woman having the limbs ripped off her unborn child for ANY reason she wants after viability. yay for abortion" instead of deflecting and trying to say it never happens.

[@ManiyaVinas]

​@@mathildeyoung1823 Those were stillborns that were dead inside the womb you dmb girlie, or would a dumb girlie like you enjoy carrying a corpse inside you?

[@Niccy26]

​@@mathildeyoung1823i'm going to regret this but when woulr that happen? It's far more likely and practicible that labour would be induced. There is no way to get the cervix open without extreme trauma to the mother otherwise.

[@niclewis9610]

The People are woke to the power of Representative Democracy. They voted against being Ruled and For being Represented. Congratulations.

[@CaliCarolyn]

I’m so proud of Ohio voters right now. I hope they keep up the progressiveness. I was actually born there but only lived there for 9 months. Still have a lot of extended family there.

[@LadyAtheOnly]

Ahoy! Ohioan here. 💙🌊💙🌊

[@mathildeyoung1823]

You lived there for more than 9 months if you mother lived there while pregnant and you lived there 9 months after birth...

[@CaliCarolyn]

@@mathildeyoung1823 This is true 😊. Will have to inquire when exactly parents went back to Ohio after marrying 😀

[@Todd-vx5lo]

Don't forget about the other Maga extreme issues that we will be voting against in 2024. Like cutting social security and Medicaid. Government funding. Gun violence, taxes for the wealthy. LGBTQ rights. Drug prices. And many more. they might quiet down on those policies before the election. But if they win. We are all in big trouble! 💙🇺🇲💙

[@philiplieu3889]

We are also voting against religious beliefs being pushed on everyone.

[@markdalbey]

Why did you not capitalize Social Security, but you capitalized Medicaid?

[@Todd-vx5lo]

@@markdalbey idk spell check probably on .

[@markdalbey]

Just to be clear, my problem is not making mistakes. I make them all of the time. My problem is knowing that you have made a mistake and go ahead anyway without trying to correct it. Not capitalizing Social Security is a mistake, but your computer didn't inform you that you made a mistake.@@Todd-vx5lo

[@challenger39b]

Joy nailed it!

[@danwallach8826]

It's almost as if MAGAts think it's a daily to-do list. 1. Pick up dry cleaning. 2. Shop for dinner tonight. 3. Get oil changed. 4. Get an abortion. 5. Stop by garden store for marigolds. 6. Take yoga class.

[@TalonMerlin777]

Joy has no Joy, she's a miserable 'woman'.

[@miguelpaul1164]

Party of small government telling woman what to do with their uteruses.

[@reason6835]

I get it; if you think abortion is murder, then you SHOULD support outlawing it. I don’t agree with that, but I understand where they’re coming from. Thankfully most Americans aren’t that extreme on the issue.

[@ValleyoftheRogue]

Nope, because they don't really believe it is "murder." What they want is to force women back into the home being little wifies and mommies because they aren't good for anything else besides being property of men.

[@killersugar6816]

And manipulating the system to do it, such as aggressive gerrymandering, and stacking the courts, etc.

[@patrickwalsh4615]

​@reason6835 unless you have a PEN!$, if so, please sit down.

[@d.k.9953]

Let the government regulate a women's right to choose in 2023. LOL. Talk about out of touch. LOl. Keep it up GOP!!!

[@hifinsword]

Let the STATES decide on abortion. So far 7 out of 7 states have decided they DO NOT WANT A BAN ON ABORTIONS! We the people have spoken!!!

[@glennlee2115]

Most Christian don't care whether you want to get abortion or not. If someone wants go abortion, why should any non-related person care? Dont--Care is the best policy on abortion for GOP.

[@4NickAder]

we can never forget that it was a 7-2 conservative majority Supreme Court that legalized Abortion in 1973

[@pomerlain8924]

Exactly. That's why people say "These are not your grandfather's Republicans."

[@4NickAder]

@@pomerlain8924 we can never forget that it is todays 6-3 conservative majority Supreme Court that continues to keep Abortion legal , isnt it

[@trishayamada807]

@@4NickAderno they said women’s rights are up to the states. They aren’t protecting anything.

[@johnbrowneyes7534]

SCOTUS was majority conservative in 1973, so blame Republicans for Roe. Instead, Democrats were blamed. Now it’s the red states voting to keep the freedom to choose. So, blame the Republicans.

[@danielcamacho1913]

They haven't been "The Party of Lincoln" for over 50 years.

[@jonathanboam5409]

Republicans - decisions made on your uterus's behalf by people who don't have one since 1854.

[@markdalbey]

Was that baby able to make the same decision? Republicans should not be able to make the decision whether a baby lives or dies. Should you have that right? It is a complicated moral issue and no party is thinking it through. There may be no 100% good answer. The one thing that is a sure thing, it is not a black and white issue.

[@annalieff-saxby568]

​@@markdalbeyThe "baby" (it's a zygote) does not get a vote. If you're so worried about abortion on demand, I suggest you lobby for compulsory vasectomies (they're reversible) for all males at puberty. Problem solved.

[@paulgibbon5991]

@@markdalbey Your faith-based opinion on a fertilised ovum is noted. Don't force it on anyone else, and we're all fine with you keeping that faith-based opinion. And would ya look at that, male username!

[@nb-user25]

These Republicans must love The Handmaid’s Tale.

[@pam18ram]

And meanwhile polls say WHAT? 💙🙏🇺🇸🤦‍♀️💙 VOTE BIDEN💙🇺🇸💙

[@johnteprice6484]

I love the panels of anchors! All independent and forward thinking people! Speaking Facts!

[@markdalbey]

If that panel were saying things that you do not agree with, would you still love them?

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

If they can't blame ANYONE but themselves they won't.

[@vercoda9997]

That growing clucking sound on the electoral horizon is the sound of lots of chickens coming home to roost.

[@richyp64]

This is why I'm so thankful that I live in a blue sanctuary state where all birthing people seeking an abortion are welcomed with open arms. 💙💙

[@ChuggsMcPickles-eh6lq]

Women

[@missano3856]

Knock it off with the birthing people crap.

[@ChuggsMcPickles-eh6lq]

Preach!

[@niclewis9610]

Chris Matthews: Do you believe in punishment for abortion, Yes or No as a principle? Donald Trump: The answer is there has to be some form of punishment. Chris Matthews: For the woman? Donald Trump: Yes there has to be some form.

[@noahtr6238]

Never thought one day Americans will have to face issue like this that officials will decide if it's right or wrong for female body. If this is not government weaponization then what is

[@keithcaldwell207]

Gop; states rights, states rights, states rights......until they don't like the results.

[@markkozlowski3674]

That's right. Which is why the 2024 presidential nominee is going to have to back some form of nationwide abortion ban or face the fact that large numbers of anti-abortion voters are going to sit out the election.

[@YoshiYosheda]

Keep it up Republicans here comes the blue wave again.

[@markallen3293]

"Lie to me once, shame on you, Lie to me twice, shame on me."

[@rohnleidigh213]

The consequences of their anti-reality policies is more like it...

[@deanfiora4227]

REPUBLICANS: Leave abortion to the states! ALSO REPUBLICANS: We need a federal abortion ban!

[@TalonMerlin777]

Democrats: "My body my choice!" Also Democrats: "take the experimental vaccine or lose your job!"

[@c3dk]

In the land of the free, they are not allowed to decide for themself......

[@sashasabbeth6836]

That is the issue: they think that their voters are stupid.

[@paulgibbon5991]

Have they been proven wrong yet?

[@sashasabbeth6836]

@@paulgibbon5991 Has anyone tested/evaluated/assessed/analyzed you yet to deduce that you were stupid?

[@asheronwindspear552]

I've seen the comments coming from right-winger, Republicans don't think their voters are stupid they're counting on it.

[@cschelin]

That’s the main thing. Voters finally are seeing through the lies. “No no, we’ll do 15 weeks” for now…

[@Tomrainsallnight]

Keep repubs out of my Dr office, out of my bedroom out of my pharmacy. Go away. Mind your own business

[@bookmang]

How about a clip of what Claire just said a little bit ago on Jen's post debate show regarding abortion? That needs to go viral. Abortion will decide the next election.

[@deborahedelman2659]

👍

[@scottsmyth87ss]

👏👏👏 Joy

[@subutterfly73]

i want all these "they abort until 9 months" politicians to speak with a women who has lost thier much anticpated child and has had a late term D&C. because thats the ONLY way that situation happens.

[@julienmercier2114]

Maybe we should follow the same strategy for gun safety.

[@missano3856]

Actually this is a good analogy in that the gun control crowd is playing with a net in that the courts won't let them do anything too crazy.

[@LR-mh8hs]

RIP, GOP.

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Oh my... your last comment: "They think think their voters are stupid." You all realize that ALL Republican candidates ACTUALLY DO THINK their voters are stupid and actively play to that fact.

[@almasonejones1880]

I Love the Panel omg go MSNBC Lawrence Joy Ari Nicole ❤ Rachel

[@vlad5042]

the whole "abortion at nine months thing" always gets me bc early induced labor is a thing, and it can be dangerous in its own ways but its not an abortive procedure. do people think planned parenthood are pulling out a fully alive baby capable of surviving outside of its mother and then just k/lling it bc the mom said ahe didnt want it?

[@drclements8399]

That’s right.

[@batgurrl]

The republican Party is in complete denial over the backlash about overturning Roe. Leaving it up no to the states. Karma slapping back on them😊

[@rodklindworth4084]

It's nice to see you all together.

[@Hector-yl1kh]

Lots of attention to the abortion issue. But two words that were not mentioned during the debate - CLIMATE CHANGE. Instead all 5 republicans plugged more and more fossil fuel production and export. all thought such an effort would reduce prices at the bowser seemingly in willful blind ignorance of the fact markets and OPEC set oil and gas prices. At the same time the coal price is tanking as countries move more and more to renewables - the cheapest form of energy. And of course the idiocy of nuclear energy as an option was raised by the squawking parrot Ramaswamy.

[@akinpaws]

bowser? Summer of 2024 will be exceptional enough to bring climate change into many conversations. Creeping rise X El Niño.

[@RegisterRedVoteBlue]

The amount of intelligence on this panel.... Fox could never

[@TalonMerlin777]

Oh my gawd I'm dying rn bro

[@erents1]

Everything trump touches burns to the ground! This is trumps number one “achievement” it’s “the one” he brags about the most and then he adds “women must be punished” for needing then having an abortion.

[@virgominerva2665]

Give me a break 🙄 Just because Nikki says she doesn’t judge people on how they vote, doesn’t mean she supports individual choice! This is what they do. Kavanaugh said he wouldn’t overturn RvW.

[@ley_ned]

Kudos to you Ms. Reid

[@NikkLiberos]

To counter Joy's point about what's happening about their abortion bans: It's not that they don't know how to address it, it's that they don't care because they are catering to an ever-shrinking base.

[@onweekendpass]

what an awesome looking panel!!!!

[@TheJanet4321]

Well, I don't think most voters are "stupid", but many of them obviously don't pay attention, or we never would have gotten to this place where we now find ourselves.

[@NeedsaLift595]

The point was supposed to be : send it back to the states. Let them sort it out. Its almost like the GOP was lying

[@markkozlowski3674]

The GOP was only lying to itself. For fifty years it told anti-abortion voters that the overturning of Roe v. Wade would mean the end of abortion in America because only liberal "elites" and radical feminist supported abortion rights. The GOP itself apparently came to believe that nonsense.

[@jazzchristineart]

The Bible says in three different places set a child is not viable until after it’s taking his first breath. Who are they to question God’s word obviously not good Christians.

[@marcromain64]

The Bible also mentions an abortion in at least one place (Numbers 5:16-22) and in at least a dozen different places how to abort young children prenatally - mostly for things their parents or distant relatives have done or omitted.

[@danielcamacho1913]

@@marcromain64 Yes, it's remarkably specific about how to mix something up and make a woman drink it, because her husband *suspects* she was unfaithful. In a world where we understand chemistry and germ theory, that means the woman's fate depends on how her body body reacts to toxins from ink, and pathogens from the tabernacle floor.

[@ley_ned]

Soooo nice in fact wonderful to see and hear Rachel maddow. And yes GO P is out of touch.

[@PAMELAPORTER-ci7mr]

Republicans would do themselves a huge favor by not lying, by treating their constituents as though they're intelligent people.

[@shesheshe9389]

This panel is the "A" team...love them all

[@diepreyeomunate9370]

Welcome to Roevember🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@saraboykin6790]

Joy ❤️

[@steveg6978]

The fascist force of the gOP is scary

[@mackjrbell7828]

Ohio said Ohi-no to MAGA.

[@lisarose5685]

The difference between democrat & republicans news anchors? The dems actually listen & care about what another person says No talking over No interrupting No shouting matches Kind of a low bar but refreshing none the less

[@jonathanlevine8497]

I love the "dog catching the car analogy", but to say they don't know what to do with it once it's caught isn't accurate. They know they have to wrap their lips around the tailpipe, and that's exactly what they're doing now.

[@sylviagoodman6008]

By next year they will be walking back their position because, above all, they want to be elected.

[@moonlightpixie9976]

Thanks joy for that i have had 4 humans myself and you dont carry a pregnancy 9 months then change your mind .. The clothes diapers crib breast pump supplies or formula car seats and everything else you need for a newborn just to decide on your due date oh nevermind thats absurd..

[@gh0st_0f_b0b_chandler]

I for the life of can't understand why they keep dying on this hill? it's unpopular by every metric, why do they keep pushing it? seriously why?

[@healinghumanity1782]

Why do we accept a political system based on absurd practices such as debating, campaigning, divisive nominations, electioneering, endorsement, lobbyists & other forms of corruption & power struggles?

[@MichealHallowell]

Sunk cost fallacy / complacency mostly

[@markdalbey]

Do you have a better suggestion? We are all ears. I think it was Winston Churchill that said, democracy is the worst form of government, until you compare it to everything else. You say that our election process is absurd. Do you have something else better?

[@MichealHallowell]

@markdalbey Oh democracy is great, just not this one. Part of the problem is Idolatry. We need to not be electing people who make decisions, and instead be voting strictly on policies/issues, as we recently saw in Ohio. Individual humans are flawed and prone to corruption. Collectively, however, we can move mountains.

[@danielcamacho1913]

The founding fathers of the USA warned us about a 2-party system, and said we should try to prevent such a thing. George Washington said, “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.” Then, nobody *did* anything to prevent 2-party politics. The "suggestion" is to implement proportional representation, like most successful democracies around the world, and *teach people to vote* A big part of Republican propaganda is to tell people the government doesn't represent them. Well, if all the grown-ups voted that story wouldn't hold up for long. I've heard that Costa Rica allows a communist party, and they can't claim to represent any silent majority because more than 85% of the voters vote, and the commies got about 1 or 2% of the vote. They took their one seat in the legislature and didn't make trouble. If they ever get too few votes, they're out entirely. I've also heard that the time *only* 85% of them voted on a presidential election, the new president told them that was a disgrace.

[@MichealHallowell]

@danielcamacho1913 Not to mention they insisted religion stay out of politics and politics out of religion. And that they favored an extremely liberal immigration system. America is nothing like it had been originally envisioned, and it's destroying us / the world

[@heybrymar]

Important conversation. Thank you MSNBC for continuing the dialogue

[@joerogain5025]

Question please? When does a mass of cells and a fetus become a human being? Is it instantaneous at conception and insemination? 1st. ultrasound heartbeat detection or at 1st. breath drawn?

[@reason6835]

Human life begins at conception. There’s no other time when it can possibly begin. However, whether it’s a person with rights is up for debate. I don’t pretend to know when exactly that happens, but I think fetal viability is a good place to draw the line.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

Take a biology class and you'll know the answer

[@patrickwalsh4615]

Some suave trolling, ask a dumb question that the courts determined & is easily googled.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@@reason6835 Well according to the Government, you can't claim an unborn fetus as a dependant on your tax return, so...

[@rebeccachalk2860]

It doesn’t matter what you think. You do you. Every woman makes her own decisions.

[@petert3355]

Sorry Joy, I've met several women who have gotten to 9 months and decided that they have had enough of being pregnant. Every single one of them marched off to the Doc and asked for a C-Section. What I'm saying is the sentiment exists, but not the results that the GOP paints it.

[@NicoleAZ145]

No, you haven’t. A c-section is not an abortion. And no doctor would perform an abortion at nine months.

[@BrettHoTep]

I think she’s implying women don’t decide to get abortions at 9 months. Every woman I know who had children were very ready to get them out by 9 months.

[@grendlsma]

Don''t compare a c section to an abortion. That's just stupid.

[@philipstephens5960]

This man seems to need the birds and the bees explained to him.

[@patrickwalsh4615]

Original poster is trolling, pay no mind 💩💩

[@PhoebeHill-og5we]

A panel of my fav host!

[@markdalbey]

Would they still be your favorite hosts if they were saying something that you don't want to hear? Maybe you should spend a little less time looking at them, and more time looking in the mirror.

[@PhoebeHill-og5we]

@@markdalbey maybe you should get a life. You know nothing about me other than the fact I like the host on MSNBC. Personally I don't care what you think about me but people like you hiding behind your keyboard with nothing else to do that make the Internet a bad place. Tbh sounds like self deflection as I like what I see in the mirror perhaps you don't?

[@chrishutchison1707]

What a great panel.

[@kjames337]

They were warned and yet they persisted

[@Schaneification]

Fool me once shame on you , Fool me a 1000 times I am a Republican !

[@toxicpotato1]

Why has the usa gone back in time 60 years?? Btw if life is so precious why no materity leave? No neonatal care..etc etc

[@ValleyoftheRogue]

Because women are supposed to be confined to the home-their "real career"-flat on their backs and in the kitchen. I am not kidding here. They don't see women as human at all; they are objects solely to be used by men. This is what these religious nutjobs believe. They are bound and determined to return patriarchy in all its detestable glory, no matter what or how the rest of us feel about it.

[@lestonthompson8495]

​@@ValleyoftheRoguethe isuue is not about abortion.

[@hikingviking859]

Nikki is the only one I could hold my nose and vote for from the Republican bozos.

[@jlighter1]

People forget _Roe_ was a decision made by conservative justices. 5 of the Justices (a majority of the court) who were part of the majority decision were appointed by conservative presidents, and they were joined by 2 liberal justices for the 7-2 decision. If those 2 liberals hadn’t joined, it still would have been a conservative decision to keep the government out of your body and out of your doctor’s appointment.

[@VoodooV1]

"I'm not happy, but I don't judge" uhh, but saying you're not happy IS a form of judgement. otherwise you wouldn't be unhappy. you're unhappy BECAUSE you made a judgement contrary to what the majority want

[@richard1472]

Everyone must know these debates are a colossal waste of time. Increasing their name recognition to perhaps get a job at Newsmax.

[@blairhaffly1777]

This batch of republicans never learned the first rule of holes.

[@Seymourian]

The big problem is before they could just say they're against abortion and every voter would infer from that what they wanted to hear. They were basically complaining about something without having a reasonable alternative. Now that abortions can be taken away they have to actually discuss where on the spectrum they fall. And they're finding that their single issue voters want complete bans which is political suicide.

[@DennyDupuis]

Hey Nikki, wouldn't it be great if they still had a law that did exactly what you're saying? Let's rename it? Maybe call it the "mind your own f'n business" law? Or the "anti-Gilead bill"? You pick, Nikki.

[@GinaRams]

Men would have to pay child support is the big difference. There was no DNA testing when roe decided.