After using the Logitech LIFT for 2 weeks (review & comparison with Logitech MX Vertical)

[@michaelthompson9798]

These mice are a terrific option for many with wrist mobility issues, arthritis, RSI etc and I know a couple people in a work environment who have benefited from these are go style mouses. It’s great to see these devices available for those who need them 👍🥰😇

[@nakamuragames]

This is a very good review! You mentioned a lot of details which for someone may be an important consideration (e.g. unifying vs bolt dongle, smartwheel vs freewheel, no onboard memory). Much appreciated! Keep up the great work!

[@TechCritter]

Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!

[@vicentebchacon]

Hello, can this mouse be used on two PCs simultaneously?@@TechCritter

[@MrCodyswanson]

Thanks for the review, helped me decide on the Logitech K860 with the Lift vertical. Looking forward to putting these to use!

[@TechCritter]

Thanks for watching and glad we could help!

[@basilisk02]

that grey logitech made me so happy at first but it died after JUST 1 year. the price is pretty high considering it's not for gaming but more to take care of your wrist if you work for hours and hours (I think I was using it around 14hrs per day). at some point left click had to be clicked like SEVEN times to work. I would be willing to try the lift and give logitech's vertical mouse a second chance but I do have to advice to be careful with the other one if you ever find it! thank yo u for this review!

[@MiPo3333]

This review helped me a lot. Thanks so much for taking the time to make it!

[@TechCritter]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cliffordchan.]

Very key thing for me, for I do love white colored mice. They have one fatal flaw on all that I've used so far. It's the discoloration (yellow staining) of the area's you make contact with. For all current users, has anyone experienced said discoloration on this Lift Vertical mouse? Thanks

[@JegErN0rsk]

Did you buy it? Did it stain?

[@kevshr]

I have tested alot of vertical options and I was not happy with the MX Vertical because of the sitz. So I ordered the Lift because it seemed better for my hands. Sadly all the plus points on the vertical - the lift doesn't have those. Not enough grip and feels cheaper that the Vertical. Long story short. I'm using the MX vertical now because of the less amount of compromises. There is a Lenovo option that looks even better. Might try that one soon.

[@Frank020]

Hi, my hand is 18 inches; but it feels small, I went to the store the MX vertical feels better size wise. Should I give it more time????2nd day on it. It feels like I have to remove my had to hit the right and scroll maybe just grip issues.

[@TechCritter]

I think you should give it some more time. I own both the MX Vertical and the Lift, and I eventually chose the Lift as my choice.

[@Frank020]

@@TechCritter Thanks.

[@Frank020]

@@TechCritter I liked it; but I likes the MX vertical better. 1) clicker has more movement. 2) clicker clicks ! 3) bigger this is a personal thing. The lift ha 1) doesn't have enough movement in the clickers. 2) doesn't click so I'm not sure if I clicked or missed. I'm not certain all the software is compatible with work security. That is no downloading allowed but basics work. For the high price I will hold off on the MX vertical, for now. The vertical designs make for less muscular tightness. Thanks great review.

[@kumimukimu]

Is Shaq your dad goddamnn get in the NBA fuck looking for mice

[@dustybeta4055]

Very detailed review. Learned a bit about the mouse I already use!

[@LouiseQuoVadis]

Thank you for this great review.

[@TechCritter]

You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Knowbody42]

I was thinking I'd buy one until I found out it has no wired mode. For now I'm using a Zelotes C-18, with a Kalih rotary encoder I soldered into it for the mouse wheel, because the one it came with started malfunctioning.

[@moisesgonzalez8422]

SUPER HELPFUL YOUR VIDEO! THANKS SO MUCH, THE MEASUREMENTE HAND WAS CRAZY HELPFUL TOO.

[@TechCritter]

You're welcome! How many credit cards in size is your hand?

[@moisesgonzalez8422]

​@@TechCritterlike yours 😅

[@javeth88]

Highly informative video. Thanks much!

[@philliplee9737]

Great review. Succinct and on point! One thing to check - would you know if the 'profile' switching can be done via assigning a button on the mouse, instead of having to press the designated button at the bottom of the mouse? For context, I am using the M720 that has the '1,2,3' selector on the top of the mouse, which i find more convenient when switching machines. (M720 ships with the MK850 keyboard combo set).

[@bluemush86]

Nice review of the mouse I just got my hands on one, Logitech lift . Super easy to set up just switch it on and the Bluetooth picked it up I was actually looking for the manual on how to period so it’s really very very easy. I think the only thing I had a little bit of difficulty understanding was the small button and the free scrawling wheel which I’ve never used before so that’s a bit new to me.It’s pretty comfortable, especially if you’re struggling with Wrist issues or carpel tunnel I would definitely say to get it but today is the first day of using it and it is really comfortable in terms of hand placement. It’s amazing how naturally my hand is resting on this mouse, as compared to me turning my whole hand face down when I’m using the normal type of mouse. It’s also a nice looking mouse in terms of colour it looks like the Old School keyboards a question I have is if I’m using an iPad can I customise the buttons or do I need a computer or a Mac book to customise the buttons. Thanks for the video keep making more 😌👍🏼 For me the selling point of this mouse is comfortable hand placement, did absolutely silent clicks especially if you work in an office where it’s really really quiet, the design is not bad It depends on which angle you look at it from top view it’s nice it looks like a teardrop but from the right side it kind of looks like Classical mouse.

[@tereziak3857]

Anyone using this mouse, if the index finger is extending behind the mouse- that means it is too small for your hand size? In all the videos I see people resting their index finger about 0,5-1cm before the outer border of the mouse (based on the logitech sizing recommendations, logitech lift vertical left should be the correct option for my hand size, but I feel like they are not taking into consideration the different finger lengths)

[@TechCritter]

The finger length isn't exactly important here since I tend to park my palms a little bit further to the back anyway. The palm size matters more as the mouse wouldn't be able to be grabbed if it's too small.

[@CraftedBricks]

Thank you for creating a very informative and helpful video!

[@Mike0193Azul]

I adore how silent the clicks are. I've been trying to decide between this and the mx master 3s, which they have also made much more quiet. Though not as quiet as this one (Beside the side buttons it's ridiculous how loud they kept them).

[@TechCritter]

I agree. Seems like a weird choice to have the side buttons to be loud and clicky.

[@frithst]

Thanks, I've just bought one but do you think a mouse pad with a wrist support is beneficial to use in conjunction with this or is it better with just the mouse?

[@TechCritter]

I did try with a wrist rest - definitely doesn't fit my way of holding the mouse. So I never use any wrist rest.

[@frithst]

@@TechCritter Ah thanks. I've always used a wrist rest with previous mice, so that's why I was wondering whether I should try without one this time.

[@vdochev]

The MX mice are also completely wireless. They use the USB port ONLY for charging. The mouse is still communicating to the computer via Bluetooth or the adapter even when you have the cable connected.

[@vdochev]

I'm considering the lift over the MX just because of the standard AA battery. I have rechargeable AAs and even if you don't have them, it's a very standard and easy to find battery. My current MX master's battery degraded to the point of working for just a day. I searched for a replacement battery, bought a new one off Amazon and now it lasts for a whole week (it should last at least a month with the original battery). So I'm sick and tired of these custom batteries. That's the reason I'm still using wired mice, keyboards and earphones. I tend to buy what I like and plan to use it for a long time. Now I have to retire a perfectly good mouse just because the battery died and I can't change it. Lame.

[@klaymoon1]

I have both too and I exclusively use Lift these days.

[@fabianf4626]

Thanks for your review. Found it really helpful especially describing you using it for gaming too. I game a bit after work and was skeptical if the Lift is up to the job.

[@TechCritter]

Great to hear!

[@MrErjavec]

I noticed as a leftie, that I’ve always kept left primary click. But with this mouse, that somehow seemed unantural, and I had to swtich the keys (right primary click). When I use normal mouse again, it still feels natural to have left primary click.

[@MrTomro]

damn, the rechargable battery option no longer being a thing in this mouse is a dealbreaker for me. I will go for the MX vertical and hopefully it solves my wrist pain.

[@TechCritter]

I think the size of the mouse should be your top priority. I get your concern regarding the battery - especially since the Lift can't be used in wired mode. There are pros and cons.

[@MrTomro]

@@TechCritter yeah the size is also why i chose mx, i have big hands so lift would be probably too small.

[@TechCritter]

Same boat with me then, I stuck with the MX Vertical because of it's just more comfortable. I do wish Logitech to update the MX Vertical with the Lift's new scroll wheel, though.

[@AquarelleArtist]

Eventually a rechargeable battery will no longer take a charge. Toss mouse. I love it that it can run on readily available, cheap batteries.

[@MrTomro]

@@AquarelleArtist batteries are e-waste and the built-in battery will do fine for a couple of years, which is perfect for me.

[@terranova8151]

Very good review! Thx from Germany 🍀

[@TechCritter]

Glad you liked it!

[@alandharmasaputra7695]

can i make macro on the side buttons ? great review anw !

[@TechCritter]

Macros I don't think so, but you can set your own using AHK or something. And thanks for watching!

[@Keanred]

I would love the Vertical if it would have a just a tad smaller size available. My hand is a bit odd where the Lift is too short in length, but the Vertical too high from the desk to be comfortable.

[@TechCritter]

TBH same. I eventually went stuck with the Lift and I think it's more comfortable, even though my hand is more suited for the MX Vertical

[@apontel]

Ohh the scrolling... Loved it on the MX master, really miss it on the MX vertical.

[@Knowbody42]

If they make a wired version with the MX master's scroll wheel, I'll definitely buy it.

[@frankenstein3163]

Ever find a good one with a bunch of buttons for gaming ?

[@deanduplessis433]

Good review!

[@TechCritter]

Thanks!

[@nvu3425]

hi, how is about middle button press? I have mx vertical but the middle button press is so heavy. I need the lighter to hold while panning camera (using 3d modelling software)

[@TechCritter]

Oooo middle click. I think I understand why you said it's heavy. There is no lateral counterforce while middle-clicking. The Lift is a bit softer but I'd still say you need to place your thumb to "pinch" the middle click.

[@apontel]

True! I've remapped the middle click to one of the side buttons on my MX vertical!

[@itsazuur_]

Hey, thanks for this video ! I have a pretty dumb question, but could you game with this mouse ? Reason is i find ambi mices not that comfortables and I am left handed. I was wondering if the sensor would be good enough mainly.

[@TechCritter]

I am left handed too, actually. But I've been using computer mouse with my right hand - so our experiences are different. For me though, I still play FPS games using the Logitech MX Vertical - and so far so good. Definitely feels weird but doable.

[@notinajaronmars]

vertical mice are cool but what do you guys think about a vertical mousepad MouseRamp by orb control. I been using it with my regular mouse and it still gets my hand in a neutral posture. any thoughts?

[@TechCritter]

Depends on your personal preference, actually. Our colleague uses trackballs and he said he prefer trackballs over vertical mice. However, I prefer vertical mice since it offers better control and I can also play FPS games on the side.

[@mishakmusic]

can someone please confirm if simple keystrokes like CTRL/CMD+F can be assigned to side buttons? or at least single keys like Backspace, with Options+ and this mouse

[@אביאל-ז8י]

Hey. I can choose which mouse to buy, both products are available for me, both products will cost the same for me. I have hands exactly in your size. What product do you recommend me to buy? Thanks It's really needed for me

[@TechCritter]

If you need it urgently, I recommend you get the MX Vertical. It fits my hand better. However, like what I mentioned in the video, the design is due for an update - but I don't know if Logitech will release an updated design any time soon.

[@soyyo5260]

I bought both to try them out. My hand is close to 8 inches. I want to like the Lift more, because it's cheaper, but the MX Vertical's larger size is definitely more comfortable to me. I enjoy using the Lift, however, I have to bend my fingers to click right or left, and I feel that my hand is slightly too big for it, and the bottom of my hand is solidly in the desk. That doesn't happen with the Vertical where the fingers stay in the same place as I use it. I have a longstanding wrist injury, and since I started using these, the wrist feels slightly better while using, but now, using my computer without either of the Logitech mice feels a LOT WORSE, to the point that my wrist starts quickly hurting if I'm not using it.

[@Fedd.]

Is it possible to assign a keyboard shortcut to the side buttons?

[@TechCritter]

You can do it through custom software

[@Fedd.]

@@TechCritter Thank you!👍

[@estusflask982]

@@Fedd. Logitech Options Plus software will let you do it easily.

[@kumimukimu]

Bro did the equivalent of measuring from the taint to the tip but for hands💀 You gotta measure from where your palm ends bro, no cheating

[@vixenriah]

im debating between the lift verticle and the pebble! im not sure how much i need an ergonomic mouse, but i dont want to regret straining my wrist

[@TechCritter]

Now this is a tough decision. I'd say go for ergonomic mouse. I manage to get a vertical mouse right when my wrist was starting to show some problems, got the MX Vertical and thankfully managed fixed the issue.

[@Divastarchick2008]

Get the lift. I have the pebble and I’m looking into getting the lift because I’m developing wrist strain. The pebble is nice, pretty, works well and is very silent but you will wish you went for the ergonomic mouse if you start to get wrist pain.

[@bluemush86]

I would definitely recommend you to get the lift the pebble looks cute but in terms of your wrist if you’re going to be using the mouse heavily protect ur Wrist.

[@syarifairlangga4608]

Pebble is made for mobility. its not made for long hour works

[@CristianGonzalezGuasch]

Hey, I use the LIFT for about 3 months. Do you know how to clean the grey area? thanks!

[@estusflask982]

wipe with alcohol wipe

[@vinsonho2567]

Can i use the mouse without the software? My company doesn't allow installing any software on our laptop

[@TechCritter]

Yes the mouse will still work without the software.

[@maryalands]

But there is no on board memory so assigned buttons will no longer work on the companys computer right?

[@RealButcher]

Does the scroll-wheel have left and right movement?

[@TechCritter]

Nope

[@icspawn]

Any problem about white version getting yellowish in time?

[@TechCritter]

Yellowing from sweat/grime that has dried on the mouse - definitely. But if you mean general yellowing then no since I put the mouse away from direct sunlight.

[@icspawn]

@@TechCritter thanks

[@nadiamorales4628]

Hello, this was a very helpful video! I'm currently debating between the MX Vertical and Lift due to my handsize. From wrist to fingertips I have 17.5 cm, which is the limit between small and medium in the logitech handsize chart... So I don't know which one to choose :( Which one would you recommed? Thank you!! :D

[@TechCritter]

Glad it was helpful! For you, I think the Logitech Lift should be okay. My big hands ended up going back to the MX Vertical, though.

[@nadiamorales4628]

@@TechCritter Thank you so much for all the advice! I appreciate it :D

[@darkchocolate6154]

I prefer the Lift to MX Vertical too.

[@lizg6515]

The piece of paper inside the box is not a user manual. The printing on the cardboard box is not a user manual either. I cannot find a user manual for this mouse, and I can't figure out the simplest things about it, so I am bringing it back to the store.

[@TechCritter]

There's always an e-manual that you can see on their website.

[@lizg6515]

@@TechCritter Maybe there is, but I couldn't find it.

[@TechCritter]

It's just a Google search away though... support.logi.com/hc/en-my/articles/5127047425303-Getting-Started-LIFT-Vertical-Ergonomic-Mouse

[@northernlight8857]

How is it for casual gaming?

[@TechCritter]

Actually works well. I mean, if it works for competitive shooter games like Halo Infinite, it'll work for casual gaming for sure.

[@marcheeto4978]

I do kinda wish they made like a Lift+ or something like that, I get that's pretty much what the mx vertical is, but after having tried both, I loved everything but the size of the lift so I ended up getting the mx instead. Great video though!

[@TechCritter]

TBH same. I like the size of the MX Vertical and also the features on the Lift.

[@sophisticated]

You sold me on Halo, that's the game I play the most lol

[@TechCritter]

Not sure if you'll be comfortable with it but you can try

[@sophisticated]

@@TechCritterI bought it and played a few hours. The only thing I'm missing from my gaming house is more buttons. I need one more to do the melee attack. There's space for a third button where the ring and pinky fingers rest. Not sure why they don't use that for a third button. It'd be top tier. There's also a bit of lag on the buttons (not the right and left click, I'm talking about the small foward and back buttons) for them to register compared to tapping the keyboard (in Halo).

[@scottsworld]

good review, lah. Nice to find a non-American review - which means you DON'T SHOUT for the whole video! I wonder if hopeless Logitech have developed their M1 Mac OS driver/software yet? That is putting me off buying.

[@StormboyG]

If they make one with RGB I'm going to run out of reasons to keep holding out on my Deathadder v2 🤣

[@TechCritter]

Dear lord I'm hoping they don't have RGB

[@nguyensum1825]

Nice

[@damianM3071]

For me, even the Lift is too edgy. I ended up using some 'no name', as I've found out that it fits my hand perfectly :).

[@DrMarvinLara]

I don't understand why some of these 'influencers' use this kind of terrible backgrounbd music? It makes it so annoying

[@vu_derArchitekt]

sadly logitech said no to linux :(

[@rationalmaximiser2]

what do you mean? i am typing this from ubuntu with a logitech lift mouse plugged in working fine

[@MrSkoobydoo]

personally found it way to difficult to retrain my brain/hands to enjoy the LIFT mouse. I have no interest in long term retraining and returned it

[@lilwoodydaz]

Very bad mouse, smart scroll is the worst scroll i had, plus switching from mouse to keyboard to keyboard to mouse is VERY annoying because your wirst will hit the mouse very often. The hand movement to got the keyboard is not good because you must pass up the mouse, i mean you can t just slide your hand to the keyboard, it s just horrible, i totally regret my buy. I really don t understand why none review mention it?

[@TechCritter]

Because that's not an issue for any of the reviewers? I do hit the mouse sometimes because it's too tall but not an issue for me either.

[@SuhendraLie]

Oh I have the same hiccup very often (1 week in) my hands always smashes top of mouse when trying to glide between mouse to keyboard to mouse