I spent 1 year searching for a perfect mouse for Mac

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Күн бұрын

The best mouse for Mac. MX Master 3S, the Apple Magic Mouse, a Razer mouse and other gaming mice with my Mac to try and find the best mouse for Mac. It had to be a Bluetooth mouse and have a short wireless dongle (preferably a USB-C dongle). And I think I found one.
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@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Recent studies on mouse ergonomics suggest that scrolling back up to smash the like button increases wrist strength by 7.3% on average
@slob5041
@slob5041 4 ай бұрын
my doctor agrees!
@varunchelikani7891
@varunchelikani7891 4 ай бұрын
how is the battery liffffffee
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl 4 ай бұрын
polling rate has nothing to do with refresh rate of monitor, same goes for disabling acceleration, don't do this on a mac. use the magic mouse, there is nothing out there comparable, this software and hardware is very sophisticated. you just brought a "mind virus" from the pc world over to mac. mac acceleration is supreme and useful, if you use 1 monitor or 6 it's a breeze. what the other mices lack is the whole multitouch world on which the mac is build on. but forget all of this, nobody ever uses a macbook with a mouse, the trackpad is better period the more you use it and the more you learn how to use it the faster you will get, it is absolutely not like a windows laptop where a mouse is basically mandatory because the trackpads, while improved a lot on the hardware side, still suck ass on the software side and will so for another decade is my guess. to test a mouse you have to use it for 3 months at least till your muscles adapt, almost everybody misses right there. don't use pointer modification software or acceleration modification software, they all are terrible and ruin everything by slowing down everything. my tip is to deactivate touch click and enable triple drag. there is a lot to learn and to adapt to, which takes time, for your muscles and your brain.
@Puggie
@Puggie 4 ай бұрын
You are able to disable mouse pointer acceleration directly from macOS, this was added in macOS Sonoma. Should be under System Settings > Mouse > Advanced
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
oh, finally they added it into settings! ty for letting me know
@IzaanFitness
@IzaanFitness Ай бұрын
it feel horrible after disable it it how lol?
@OpenDeepLearning
@OpenDeepLearning Ай бұрын
Thanks, bro!
@kriglics
@kriglics 4 ай бұрын
I was looking for a solution for the same issue for a long time, but always gave up after trying the Magic mouse and the MX, but you came with the clutch ! Thank you .
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
haha cheers!
@Clem-Villatte
@Clem-Villatte 2 ай бұрын
Perfect tone, cool motion design, great storytelling - your content is great! 🙌🏻
@ericzayya
@ericzayya 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this extensive review. I’ve been searching for a “perfect” non-laggy BT mouse for my Mac. I’ll definitely try Keychron M3.
@felipemagalhaes567
@felipemagalhaes567 4 ай бұрын
I have the MX Master 3S for 2 years now using with a M1 Max macbook. Never had any issues about it. I even game with it sometimes.
@rogo61
@rogo61 2 ай бұрын
Same, I'm still using the M3 and have never had any issues with it either. M2 Max here.
@indieNerd
@indieNerd Ай бұрын
You are lucky. My Mx master 3 has driven me crazy with the lagging and jitters. I was so excited to use this mouse but it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
@sammahasona
@sammahasona Ай бұрын
I have used the MX 2S for so many years now. No issues whatsoever. The charge still lasts for months.
@sammahasona
@sammahasona Ай бұрын
@@indieNerd Are you using the provided software to configure the buttons. I don't know if that helps but. I had it installed since day 1.
@indieNerd
@indieNerd Ай бұрын
@@sammahasona yes, i have tried with Logitech software and without. I have two mac books and it only happens on m1 macbooks. With windows this mouse is amazing. Either mac os or logitech driver is to blame here but in any case I can’t use mx master with m1 macs.
@UchihaAditya
@UchihaAditya 20 күн бұрын
I did not know about refresh rate and its working. Learnt something new. This was crisp and yet filled with great details. Damn, so hard to find such tech review videos these days.
@the.regulargamer
@the.regulargamer 4 ай бұрын
The bluetooth lag on the MX Master 3S is so strange. Ive never had that problem. Ive used it on my 13” MBP-M1 and my 16” MBP-M2Pro. Works perfectly fine with no lag. And i also have a MX Master 3 and MX Anywhere 3 for Mac which both work perfectly fine with no lag. Mouse cursor never stutters or teleports.
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
That’s so strange, I tried the white version, returned it and got the black one, and both had the same issue
@AntonBlaschuk
@AntonBlaschuk 4 ай бұрын
same here, but I have MX Master 2S and older 15in MBP 2019. No issues at all on bluetooth, didn't feel any difference with Windows machine on dongle. And I think I'm picky in that regard, mice and keyboard and display experience should be smooth otherwise it's a deal breaker usually
@giviz
@giviz 4 ай бұрын
Same, I've used the MX Master for a few years on a MacBook 16 and never had any lag issue. I really like that mouse!@@AntonBlaschuk
@vijaychhuttani25
@vijaychhuttani25 4 ай бұрын
Same here. Using MX series since 2 years.. never lagged.
@SniperMayer
@SniperMayer 4 ай бұрын
I've had it on multiple units, just like my gf, who is also using them. It's been an issue for the Master 2s as well on both intel and M series macs. It is so annoying for a mouse this expensive. (we tried both the bluetooth and dongle version too, still the same)
@konstidog
@konstidog 4 ай бұрын
Thought I'd let you know, there's apps like Mos you can use on macOS to get smooth scrolling with a scroll wheel mouse. If memory serves me right, you can even use it to set your mouse to reversed scrolling direction while keeping your trackpad scroll direction natural. Hope that helps you c:
@bren.r
@bren.r 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I use Mos mainly for the reversed scrolling feature while keeping trackpad natural.
@rhylin26
@rhylin26 4 ай бұрын
The fact that you can’t set the track pad and scroll wheel separate is so annoying.
@konstidog
@konstidog 4 ай бұрын
wait, does it affect both? i thought with mos it only switches it over for mouse input
@franpanxop
@franpanxop 4 ай бұрын
Actually you can do that on native Mac mouse settings 👀
@konstidog
@konstidog 4 ай бұрын
@@franpanxop the setting applies to both the trackpad and mouse though, i thought
@fo0barDE
@fo0barDE 3 ай бұрын
1:16 thanks for the notebook flip, i really enjoyed that.
@robertseals9165
@robertseals9165 2 ай бұрын
that middle click button note changed my life. So useful! like just for that tip alone. Then add the website for mouse testing this was the best thing I have watched in awhile.
@technikerwolfd8918
@technikerwolfd8918 3 ай бұрын
6:50 you changed my life with this trick
@blanke_bolster
@blanke_bolster 3 ай бұрын
damn, it even works in windows
@aknahin
@aknahin 2 ай бұрын
same here... I be lyk: wait, whaaat. Then open a new tab in my Microsoft Edge and it works...
@thomascolasante6280
@thomascolasante6280 2 ай бұрын
Actually wild
@joelsmith7944
@joelsmith7944 2 ай бұрын
There's an app for Mac called MiddleClick that lets you three-finger tap on the trackpad for a middle click
@dimoronen
@dimoronen 2 ай бұрын
How do you guys not know this? Here are some more common chrome hotkeys: Ctrl W to close current tab, Ctrl Shift T to reopen last closed tab (great if you misclick), Ctrl Tab to go to next tab and Ctrl Shift Tab to go to previous tab. There are variations of this on mac, I guess the command key instead of ctrl.
@mcluvin28x
@mcluvin28x 2 ай бұрын
This video is so clutch, I had no clue about latency n bluetooth connections n all that. I was just going for coolest looking 😅
@dandemler1638
@dandemler1638 4 ай бұрын
I have two MX Master 3S and they’re always connected via Bluetooth to Macs. I’ve never had any connection issues. It could be interference from other devices but I assume that would affect other mice too. I used to use a Razer Basilisk via Bluetooth and that did have lag from time to time, especially when I joined video calls.
@hypno0784
@hypno0784 4 ай бұрын
Recently got the Logitech M650. Comes with side buttons, silent click, Bluetooth, a magnetic scroll wheel (which is different from and not as crappy as the MX3S), a battery instead of charging, grippy side texture, and gestures while holding the middle button. Snagged it for $18 in a sale and couldn't be more happy. In fact, I like it more than my MX2S due to its size and weight.
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
That sounds really nice, especially for the price. Are you using it with a dongle or via Bluetooth? I'm curious if the bluetooth connection lags or not
@hypno0784
@hypno0784 4 ай бұрын
@@bogxd Using it with the dongle. The Bluetooth is shit because my 2017 air has only Bluetooth 4. But when I tried this mouse with my brother's M1 Air, it worked pretty well
@vpstateofmind
@vpstateofmind 4 ай бұрын
Came here to suggest this , am saving up for this mouse , and I think it's the best option for my m1 air.
@liuliukiu
@liuliukiu 4 ай бұрын
my m650 was shit using it with the mac pro 2021 with terrible delay and lag. I have to use an app called LinearMouse to disable pointer acceleration for it to function normally.
@LegoKiva
@LegoKiva 4 ай бұрын
Im curious, what didn’t you like about the mx3s? I finally pulled the trigger after finding it for half off but if I’m going to get tired of it, I want to know! 😂 EDIT: after re-reading your comment I’m realizing you specified the scroll wheel. What did you mean by that? And was it the only issue you had?
@mathysrituper5424
@mathysrituper5424 4 ай бұрын
Keychron just recently released the M6, a MX Master alternative that is half the price and with advertised MacOs compatibility, as well as USB-C Dongle. I've had it for a month so far and I'm satisfied with it :)
@junechevalier
@junechevalier 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I was considering getting the MX master 3, but then I saw your comment and now I'll be able able to save up a little bit of money :D
@ModernTenshi04
@ModernTenshi04 4 ай бұрын
Definitely looks nice, but it also looks to be lacking my favorite feature of the MX Master line: the thumb rest button. Using it to handle virtual desktops in macOS makes things very seamless. For the price though it does look to be a very nice alternative.
@iiwajd
@iiwajd Ай бұрын
What is your mac? And are you still satisfied?
@mathysrituper5424
@mathysrituper5424 Ай бұрын
@@iiwajdMacbook pro M1 14 inch, M1 Pro CPU. Still satisfied with the mouse itself, although I broke the USB-C dongle by mishandling it, but I must say it is quite fragile. Bluetooth connectivity took over and it does an excellent job (much better than keychron bluetooth keyboards I must say)
@silentwater79
@silentwater79 Ай бұрын
Was also looking into the M6, but the Scroll Wheel is subpar compared to the Scroll Wheel of the MX3. And as a Software Dev, I Scroll a lot through masses of Source Code. So the Scroll Wheel of the MX3 is something I don't want to miss anymore. At home I use the MX3. On the go, I use the MX Anywhere 3, which has a similar Scroll Wheel.
@cuate2006
@cuate2006 18 күн бұрын
Hi there. I've been looking for this exact content after trying several! Just ordered the Keychron M3. Tried to order it through your link but I'm in Canada and had to switch to the Canadian site. Great info! New sub.
@truongnguyenkhanh8356
@truongnguyenkhanh8356 4 ай бұрын
Happy new year!!! I would love if you could make a video comparing popular clipboard managers for macos.
@muscy2637
@muscy2637 4 ай бұрын
I have the 3S and I’ve honestly barely used it because of the Bluetooth tracking lag issue, happens both on my M2 MacBook Air and M1 Pro 14” MBP, along with other machines. Even carried over after getting a free mouse replacement. Honestly for a mouse with my mac, I’ve just used my Logitech G Pro Superlight with a small dongle to put it into USB-C from USB-A, and customized a couple mouse binds to make it work for me
@badmuse
@badmuse 4 ай бұрын
The editing and pacing on this is delightful! One of the few videos on the platfrom I don't want to watch at 1.5-2x speed. Six and seven figure viewcounts are in your future.
@TutorialsByLarry
@TutorialsByLarry 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the awesome explanation, this video was fantastic. And seriously thanks for your great sense of humor, I literally laughed at least three times during the video.
@bogxd
@bogxd 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@s.tunafish
@s.tunafish 4 ай бұрын
I think your Logitech must have been defected. I used it for about a year now and haven't had any issues (apart from the white finish not being completely white anymore). It's really ergonomic, smooth and has no connection problems whatsoever. Disclaimer: I'm using it on a Studio Display not a 120Hz MacBook.
@shanangls
@shanangls 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the MX Master mouse! Tried both MX master and MX anywhere, and it was so laggy on my macbook air even when using the dongle. I settled with the g304 and it was the best mouse for me. Downside is it does not have a bluetooth connection.
@re7qi
@re7qi 4 ай бұрын
I had an MX Master 3S on Mac at 120hz - with same issues you mention. Now been using a Logitech G603 - got a great sensor (125hz or 1000hz polling) has lightspeed/bluetooth connections and 18 month battery life. Shame it's discontinued.
@mrBenSan
@mrBenSan 3 ай бұрын
YES, the G603 it's near perfect! and you can use one or two batteries if you prefer a lighter or heavier feel and you can also map the side buttons directly for mission control or show the desktop
@cinefyl
@cinefyl 23 күн бұрын
@re7qi has Logitech come out with a successor to this mouse?
@lumberfoot_jpg
@lumberfoot_jpg 4 ай бұрын
I just bought the new M3 macbook pro, and I needed something (1) portable, (2) rechargeable, and (3) USB-C compatible. I initially bought a cheap Logitech bluetooth mouse because I'm very happy with my Logitech gaming mouse at home, however, the bluetooth connection was horrible and made the cursor micro stutter. After some research, I came across the Lenovo Go Mouse. It is absolutely fantastic! As it (1) fits in my small backpack zipper, (2) has a rechargeable battery, and (3) comes equipped with a super minimal USB-C 2.4GHz dongle which alleviated the micro stuttering from the last mouse. Overall, I highly recommend the Lenovo Go Mouse for anyone looking for sleek, simple, "forget about it" solution to using a mouse on the go with a macbook :)
@mohammedzaid5989
@mohammedzaid5989 4 ай бұрын
the teleportation lag is due to interference of wifi and bluetooth signal on 2.4 GHz frequency. I turned of 2.4 GHz on my router and only operate it on 5 GHz and the problem went away just like that!
@technocatdance
@technocatdance 4 ай бұрын
logitech m720 is actually pretty decent for the price and doesn't stutter that badly at all, I still opted for the MX master 3s because it is more ergonomic and reduces wrist strain for longer use, and I absolutely love the no click, wish all mouse had no stupid click noise, the lagging I do have sometimes but seems to be better by just turning it on and off, sometimes it doesn't lag that badly at all but other days have to restart it like 3 to 4 times
@satyabhan6548
@satyabhan6548 4 ай бұрын
Been using the Mx Master 3 (not S) since 3 years now, and I occasionally switch between intel iMac 4k, MB Air M2, and a windows PC. Contrary to your experience, I've never once faced connection problems across any of my machines. It just performs brilliantly. The only 2 things I don't like about the mouse: a) The weight -its just too heavy b) The forward-backward buttons don't work with Safari (or maybe they do, I never cared about installing the Logi software) Also, one thing that no one mentions about the magic mouse is the feet that it uses to slide/ glide on surfaces - they tend to attract dirt and become sticky more frequently than any other mouse that I have ever tried, so much so that the mouse becomes annoying to use unless you wipe it with a damp cloth every other day. Never faced this problem with the MX master.
@BottyGuy
@BottyGuy 4 ай бұрын
I have both the MX Master 3 and the MX Anywhere 3 and also haven't had any issues with either of them, they connect fine, and I can switch easily between two Macs.
@DenTube619
@DenTube619 Ай бұрын
Forward and backward buttons have never worked in Safari with any mouse I’ve used.
@davidbcg286
@davidbcg286 2 ай бұрын
I have used the Logitech Triathlon for a few years now (I have one at home and one at the office). Really really happy with it, I did not encounter the issues you mentioned with the MX3, and I solely use it on bluetooth.
@justthien
@justthien 2 ай бұрын
Logitech mice tend to lag and stutter a damn lot if there is one or more devices connected to the laptop via bluetooth, it got mentioned a lot on reddit
@daviddocs2928
@daviddocs2928 4 ай бұрын
I also went through the same hunt… The solution is the Keychron M6 mouse: high polling rate, great ergonomics and a usb c dongle!
@alexclairmont
@alexclairmont 3 ай бұрын
you just BLEW MY MIND with the two scroll click tricks !!! cant believe i've never known or heard about that before. shocked that i didn't have to map anything either it was just automatically working :o i've been clicking the little X to close tabs and right clicking links my entire life to select open link in a new tab 😭
@bogxd
@bogxd 3 ай бұрын
This was exactly my reaction when I found out about it too haha, thx for watching
@baconberries8097
@baconberries8097 3 ай бұрын
The sad thing about the magic mouse to me is that the good is really good! Using it in school in illustrator and Photoshop, i liked how intuitive it was moving around an image by just scrolling on the top. It's a shame that no one else has made any "touch mice" because i think it's ripe for innovation.
@skyscall
@skyscall 8 күн бұрын
Nobody else has made any "touch mice" for Mac, simply because Apple won't _let_ anyone else. No other mouse is allowed to access the same controls as it.
@MyNigellus
@MyNigellus 3 ай бұрын
Finally someone that understands. I didn't know that they keychron has a usb-c dongle, why is this so unpopular, all should have that option! You didn't mention how it is charged, I'd love a stand for that mouse of some sort
@flottenheimer
@flottenheimer 3 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks. Looking at the Keychron M3 Mini (!) just now...
@sturmx96
@sturmx96 Ай бұрын
1:17 That was a cool trick. Also I found myself using mac's trackpad rather than mx master 2 mouse. It's absolutely great for my workflow as a designer, the only con is that 3 finger drag is not applied to the layers sometimes so you have to click on the trackpad and drag the layer so the changes are saved.
@mortymort7075
@mortymort7075 20 күн бұрын
Great video. Looooove the background music and the narrating that fits perfectly alongside it.
@bogxd
@bogxd 20 күн бұрын
Damn, thanks!
@Lagdoo
@Lagdoo 3 ай бұрын
Great review. I have Logitech G305 which is very similar to Keychron M3 and I feel very similar to you about the design and functions. The only difference is it has usb-a adaptor which is a bummer. But I use my mouse when I connect to my secondary screen at my workstation and I plugged the adaptor into the screen's USB-A. When I plug my Mac into the screen via type-c it automatically recognize the USB connections of the screen which is awesome because my wife also use the workstation. This way, who ever connects to the screen, controls the mouse and the keyboard. I have logitech mx keys and logitech g305 mouse as workstation setup. Also I use LG ergo 4k monitor.
@SowrenSen
@SowrenSen 4 ай бұрын
For me it is the MX Master 3. I've been using it for a year now and works great. I don't use the dongle cause the Bluetooth connection is really smooth. I never noticed any lag.
@ricardomilos857
@ricardomilos857 3 ай бұрын
I've been using MX Master 3S for a year, and it's perfect. The cursor is not teleporting, but it's lagging for 10-15 secs after you haven't used it for a long time (1-2 days). And, Master 3S has a lot of features, which are must-haves in Mac
@regenschein71
@regenschein71 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the detailed instructions. I got my mouse working again, but it immediately stopped after I put it back together. The I just loosened the two outer screws under the thumb button (the ones that are hidden beneath the wide glide pad) and now it seems to work. So, hint for everyone: try these two first before opening the whole mouse. Might save you some work.
@charlesc2095
@charlesc2095 4 ай бұрын
This is the video that Ive been looking for for the past decade. It always bugged me that every mouse that I bought for my several mac systems that I use all had horrendous bluetooth performance (and yes including the mx master). Latest one that Im using as my daily driver is the mx anywhere mouse and bluetooth mode just feels like crap. Now Im really tempted to try out the keychron one
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
I mean, it will still have that "Bluetooth" feel. Just a little little bit of delay, but you can't really get around it. I only noticed it when switching from the dongle to Bluetooth. But yeah this one is the best Bluetooth experience I've had with any mouse so far.
@D37fit
@D37fit 4 ай бұрын
ME TOO! I’ve been looking for a mouse that doesn’t lag on Mac
@charlesc2095
@charlesc2095 4 ай бұрын
@@bogxd makes sense, although one of the things that makes logitech bluetooth connection feel extra meh is that it's like just a wee but short of feeling fine/acceptable. Maybe keychron's is within the "ok" range
@bLaffix
@bLaffix 3 ай бұрын
MX3 wireless with the dongle and USB-C to USB-A + Mos + Logi Options+. I've set the middle button click to switch between desktops depending on which direction I move the mouse to simulate the 3 finger swipe on the touchpad. Very useful for navigating between full screen apps. Yes, the dongle sticks out a bit, but the Bluetooth connection sucks as noted in the video.
@maxmouse3
@maxmouse3 4 ай бұрын
Great video. One thing to note is that you can enable smooth scrolling on any mouse using some third party apps. It's a bit annoying but there are FOSS apps for that :)
@cvought1
@cvought1 4 ай бұрын
I purchased the Keychron M3 to replace my MX Master 3 recently as a result of watching this video; just because I wanted to see if there was a significant difference in the feel and my productivity. A few things to report back to you all: 1. The MacOS software for the Keychron M3 is very confusing and of very poor quality; managed to finally get the buttons on the side to control my volume and the top button to lock the computer (the same way I had it on the MX3), but it took a while to figure it out. Unlike the M3's really nice software 😇. 2. The battery life on the Keychron M3 is very poor. I had charged it all the way up prior to use and it died after 1 day's use while I was in a meeting 😑. 3. The various polling options on the bottom of the mouse, while compelling, really turned out to be more of novelty for me; I just want to adjust the sensitivity, set it and forget it, I don't care for so many options. It didn't add a lot of value for me. But #2 (the poor battery life) put the nail in the coffin on this mouse 😖; it's getting returned to Amazon and I'm going back to the MX3.
@PaulRadaker
@PaulRadaker 4 ай бұрын
Logitech sells a USB dongle for the MX Master mouse that has a much better polling rate. I use a MX Master 3 with the dongle every day and it’s amazing. Only problem is it’s USB-A, so that might not work for your criteria.
@Bitz00.
@Bitz00. 4 ай бұрын
the animations are so simple but so good
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
🫡
@milosjevic
@milosjevic 4 ай бұрын
First of all, I have to admit that your video and suggestion have greatly improved my life. I have a MacBook Pro M1 and was dissatisfied with the MX Master 3S. The significant mouse lag, which many consider the best mouse in the world, is unacceptable. Yesterday, after watching your video, I decided to sell the MX Master 3S and buy the KeyChron M3. So far, I am thrilled with its responsiveness on my computer. I've never had such a smooth feeling, not even with the Apple Magic Mouse. This is one of the more useful videos I've watched, and I've become a new follower of your channel. Since you explained everything in detail in this video, I suggest you create more clips for MacBook, such as useful applications you use daily and similar tricks and tips like this one. All the best!
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Ayee thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful!
@Mikri90
@Mikri90 3 ай бұрын
The MX Master 3 or 3s is an amazing mouse, but only on Windows. My experience on a Mac is exactly the same as yours (and of the video author) and frankly I have a hard time deciphering why on earth would anyone recommend this mouse for Macs. The support for it is terrible and the mouse just feels bad. Do people generally just have poor standards on what is a good mouse experience? My experience on Windows with it is awesome and I swear I will buy it again as soon as this one dies.
@milosjevic
@milosjevic 3 ай бұрын
@@Mikri90 The last time I utilized Windows was eight years ago when I was using the MX Master 2 mouse, an experience that left me thoroughly impressed. Recently, I've noticed that many KZbinrs are using the MX Master 3S with their MacBook computers without encountering the issue that @bogxd and I are currently facing. It seems quite unusual. As described in this video, I have personally encountered all the issues associated with the MX Master 3S. However, since I purchased the Keychron M3 based on recommendation, I have been using it, and surprisingly, I have not experienced any lag issues at all. I thought it might be helpful to share this information with you, as it could provide some insight into the situation.
@MihaRekar
@MihaRekar 3 ай бұрын
@@Mikri90I've used the MX Revolution, Master, Master 2, 3, and 3S, and never had a lag problem with any of them on any of my macs 🤷‍♂
@Mikri90
@Mikri90 3 ай бұрын
@@MihaRekar with a dongle or bluetooth? Performance is OK with a dongle, not as good as on my Windows machine, but not bad either. And btw it isn't lag per se, but input latency. It doesn't stutter or skip frames, it just isn't 1:1 with my hand motion. And btw that applies to my experience with the magic mouse as well, which, on top of having the input latency also has a terrible sensor. I know several people who swear by that mouse, and at this point I am not sure if people who have used Macs for years and decades now just have low standards for mouse performance or is it me who's just too picky. We don't all have the same expectations. No mouse I ever tried on Mac, matches my experience on Windows where the input latency is so small that it's as good as non-existent, and yes I have tried even my fast gaming mouse which is better than the MX Master 3 but not as good as it should be. The trackpad is awesome (the ones on Windows laptops usually suck) but I do need a mouse sometimes. But once again, the dongle performance is fine with me, it's the bluetooth performance that's terrible. Heck, I connected that same mouse over bluetooth to my fairly cheap Android phone and it was smoother and more responsive than on my Macbook. That should't really be happening, but that's how it is.
@estranged__
@estranged__ 2 ай бұрын
The middle click is indeed life changing. Thanks and subscribed
@sturmx96
@sturmx96 Ай бұрын
But you shorten the lifespan of your mousewheel with it. All these mouses are going to have scroll issues after 1-2 years of use that's for sure. The only one that holds is mx master because of its optical encoder wheel which has much better longevity compared to mechanical encoder which is used in all other mice even in high end gaming ones for 100 bucks.
@stuff_and_things_and_stuff
@stuff_and_things_and_stuff 4 ай бұрын
i dont have a mac and am never planning on getting one, yet i allways end up on you videos... why.... good vid 👍
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
xd, thanks!
@AndreaMarinoReal1
@AndreaMarinoReal1 4 ай бұрын
I've got the razer orochi v2, other than the AA battery has been great, bluetooth is perfect. The build quality is very good, the sensor too and the battery life is incredible, Sure the dongle is only usb-a but personally i don''t have a problem with that as i only use bluetooth. So far has been a killer product
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking of getting it instead of the M3, nice to hear that I wouldn't have been disappointed with it
@kevboost
@kevboost 2 ай бұрын
As a FPS gamer, i can assure you that the razer orochi V2 on bluetooth is not perfect. If you compared it by plugging in the dongle it is night and day difference in precision and smoothness.
@warpigroadkill
@warpigroadkill 3 ай бұрын
I've just gone from the Apple mouse to the MX 3 Master for Mac (for mac means you get a usb-c to usb-c cable). Works perfectly without any dongles. Game changer with the customisable buttons and scroll wheels for x and y axis.
@zpieter4221
@zpieter4221 2 ай бұрын
For me my old Microsoft Arc Mouse works great! It is really portable because you can literally fold it, and has similar functions as the trackpad, by swiping left to right on the mouse's 'screen'. its completely wireless, has an insane amount of battery. Only downside is that it is a bit uncomfortable for longer sessions.
@-Burb
@-Burb 4 ай бұрын
Wow I’m glad I came to the same conclusion as you even before watching this video haha, I ordered the Keychron M3 yesterday and today your video popped up in my recommended! Excited for it, I’m in a similar situation as you where I want a fast mouse for my Windows desktop and something with Bluetooth and preferably a USB C dongle for my MacBook. The M3 seemed to check all the boxes. Small question, is there a place to put the USB C dongle when it’s not in use? Like a compartment inside the mouse or anything? Nice review!
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Nop, there's nowhere to put the receiver
@HugoCostaCancio
@HugoCostaCancio 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I got a MX Master 3 and hated it every second. Thought I was going crazy - it looks nice, somewhat premium, but it's bad. Thank you for the video.
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Ayee, thanks for watching!
@andreyyastrebtsov4367
@andreyyastrebtsov4367 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm, have zero issues with my MX 3s connected via bluetooth, more than that my keyboard is also wireless(nuphy air 75) and I also have redmi airdots pro bluetooth TWS headphones connected, and all this on 2017 macbook pro 13 inch. Everything works like a charm
@HugoCostaCancio
@HugoCostaCancio 4 ай бұрын
@@andreyyastrebtsov4367 That’s amazing.
@playinGJ
@playinGJ 2 күн бұрын
Pulsefire Haste 2 mini, No dongle (it has one, but not needed), 1k polling rate, white, smaller formfactor (ultra portable) - if u don't like the mini, get the regular. Literally one of the best mice I've ever used
@rivershy
@rivershy 4 ай бұрын
I've had MX Anywhere 3S for 2 years now with my macbook and have had no issues with it. Super portable, comfortable, no lag. It's just good.
@jaehaerys48
@jaehaerys48 4 ай бұрын
I've had a Logitech M325 that I've been using for around 9 years that seems to work well enough. The only problem is that it does use USB A, so I have to use a dongle. I don't really use it when traveling though so it's not a big deal. I also have an M350s that I bought for my iPad. I really like it... except for the scroll wheel, which isn't smooth. After watching this I may get a Keychron M3. Great video btw, I really liked the editing!
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@blurri_10
@blurri_10 9 күн бұрын
Your manim animations are so damn cool and advanced! Keep it up man
@philangundze1885
@philangundze1885 4 ай бұрын
Great Vid. I’d been using the Logitech MX Master 2 since its launch. Eventually it stopped working, currently using the Logitech Lift, underrated mouse.🔥🔥🔥
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@RVNmedic
@RVNmedic 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing the research.
@polyhedraldesign2107
@polyhedraldesign2107 4 ай бұрын
The reasons I can’t switch away from the Magic Mouse are because of the swipe gestures and fluid directional scrolling when I’m working in Figma. It’s the hybridization of mouse and trackpad that is so useful for not having to take your fingers off the mouse, a big plus when designing.
@piraka_mistika
@piraka_mistika 4 ай бұрын
Figma balls
@user-fj3rl4nl2f
@user-fj3rl4nl2f 4 ай бұрын
True
@IzaanFitness
@IzaanFitness Ай бұрын
is it the bluetooth problem also the problem ? i thought if apple product will not have this problem
@peterpang5759
@peterpang5759 4 ай бұрын
I am using a Logitech MX3 mouse on my 2019 16" Macbook Pro. No latency as you mentioned. Polling rate is at 120hz, max art 135hz. Not sure why you are experiencing this. Had one in the office for my M2 Max Mac Studio, not suffering these issues at all. Did you install the Logitech app for the mouse?
@s8anio
@s8anio 4 ай бұрын
5 Different Macs (intel, M1, M2)... MX Master 2, 3 and 3S (all black)... Completely different experience! Smooth af! Working all day and night and even gaming (but prefer razor for gaming)! Best mouse I've ever used in over 20 years.
@operator_dnb
@operator_dnb 2 ай бұрын
Yea I suspect bro received a faulty MX MASTER LOL
@chop8557
@chop8557 4 ай бұрын
found my perfect mouse setup for mac. magic touchpad on the left, keyboard in the middle and logitech vertical on the right for more precise movements. sometimes ill put the magic touchpad in the middle underneath my keyboard like the laptops.
@jingpinhuicai
@jingpinhuicai 4 ай бұрын
You should also try Keychron M6. It’s got the performance of the M3 and the design of a MX Master.
@maettis_
@maettis_ 2 ай бұрын
About the Logi MX mouse: I had the same issues with the teleporting. Just install the Logi Options+ Software of Logi and it will install the right drivers automatically. Now it is the best mouse ever. The mx mouse is simply practical for macbooks. I have the feeling that I don't have to make any compromises when it comes to the functions. For example, the button at the bottom for the thumb is great when it comes to switching desktops. The second scroll wheel is super useful when you are on the web and need to scroll horizontally. The Logitech software is just great. I have entire automations to set up my workspace.
@sadmansajid5274
@sadmansajid5274 Ай бұрын
You literally changed my life by telling me what the mouse middle button does. never found a proper use for it in my whole 23 years using a computer.
@Eventwow
@Eventwow 3 ай бұрын
After razer dropped Mac support I went with the Logi so far it’s been great. With the charging port in the front I can use while it’s charging as if it was a wired mouse.
@deckhand
@deckhand Ай бұрын
Decided to buy a Keychron M3 because of this review. Thank you!
@comebackata2
@comebackata2 Ай бұрын
you might want to look at the M6. just read it here in the comments
@TrollerSK
@TrollerSK 4 ай бұрын
I use Logitech MX Master 3S with the dongle that sticks 3 hamburgers per square toenail and it does not lag, i can even game on it. However, on my windows laptop it always defaulted to 125 Hz polling rate, and on my mac, because Apple, it often got stuck at 90, feeling slow and laggy comapred to the trackpad. However since Sonoma it is always 125Hz and it is actually nice to use, so you might check it out again and use try the dongle :)
@ebeisaac7700
@ebeisaac7700 24 күн бұрын
Great review! Happy to know there’s a Mac compatible software for Keychron M3. Does it work for the M4 version as well?
@Kelson01
@Kelson01 Ай бұрын
Just get G502 hero and if you need to sideways scroll with any mouse hold the shift key when scrolling. Problem solved
@waltonks8172
@waltonks8172 4 ай бұрын
For me any decent bluetooth mouse (except Magic Mouse) with Mac Mouse Fix app is the way to go. USC dongle mouses don't work very well for my MacBook Air because the aluminium body blocks the signal between the dongle and the mouse. I currently use Logitech M650 with my MacBook Air and it's great. I choose this mouse because I often switch between the dongle mode on Windows device and the bluetooth mode for the Mac.
@aldo6532
@aldo6532 4 ай бұрын
My favourite mouse for my Windows laptop comes with the Surface Bluetooth Desktop set. Enjoy the keyboard but the mouse feels so accurate to me and I’ve tried the best of the best and not enjoyed their feel.
@kensyootoob
@kensyootoob 7 күн бұрын
Nice thorough walkthrough! Enjoyed :) Cheers!
@sven7432
@sven7432 4 ай бұрын
Hey, what do you think of the asus rog Harpe aim lab edition? Do you think it will work good with Mac?
@silentshadow867
@silentshadow867 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if there is a huge difference between your mac and my M2 macbook pro, but I have absolutely no issues with my MX Master 3s. The bluetooth works fine, I don't notice latency issues, and I definitely don't have the cursor teleporting.
@michalrz4667
@michalrz4667 21 күн бұрын
very nice vid. I had same challange like around half year ago. Tested several mouses, but it was not pull frequency bud scrolling smoothies that was more important to me, I had great hopes towards Logitech MX house, but it occurred to be a total disaster. Ended up with Magic Mouse 2
@maxlight9258
@maxlight9258 3 ай бұрын
what macbook are you using? i have a macbook m1 and i have problems with bluetooth mouse (low hz). as far as i know this problem almost everyone has this problem.
@typescriptuser
@typescriptuser 4 ай бұрын
I mainly use Logitech MX Anywhere 3. It works great with their Logitech Options utility app, including smooth scroll (it’s not perfect but I like it), mission control gestures. Have you tried it with your MX Master 3S?
@bogxd
@bogxd 4 ай бұрын
Ah that's nice, I'm glad you're not hating it like me xd. Yeah, I tried it with both logi options and options + and a bunch of other apps but the Bluetooth lag wouldn't go away.
@officiallyazzam
@officiallyazzam 3 ай бұрын
Lots of mixed reviews in the comments. I don't know previously but I have been using the MX Master 3S from 2 months and it checks every box for me. I have no even faced any lags. However when I connected it to a second computer then it got a little slower to connect with my mac. Other than that it's very smooth, no lag, I can switch between desktops with the mouse, I can open the mission control with the mouse too. The apple touch pad is also very nice and I find myself using the touch pad when I am in positions where I can use the mouse without being bothered.
@Alphyx_
@Alphyx_ 3 ай бұрын
The mixed reviews are based on the fact that some users do not notice a difference, I myself using a 60 hz display did not notice the lag but using a display greater than 100 hz the difference is noticeable
@Snayps
@Snayps 3 ай бұрын
I don't need to see the video (using trackpad only), but I love the thumbnail, you have my like and comment, keep going! ✨
@pedramghorbani5247
@pedramghorbani5247 4 ай бұрын
Keychron M3 was and still is one of the best mice I have ever had for mac. i have used G502 old and new, G903, MX master 3s, and Keychron M3. M3 checks all the boxes for me at least. I am really interested to check out the M6 mouse I think that one has the vertical wheel on it
@ashxskie
@ashxskie 4 ай бұрын
I think you should also check out their newer version the keychron M6 with horizontal scroll wheel too.
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon 2 ай бұрын
I use a Logitech MX Master 3S and it works perfectly! Also, I chose the dark/black version so it looks better when not 100% clean.
@RefractArt
@RefractArt 4 ай бұрын
Been using MX Master for more than 1 year in BT mode, i never had any issue in regard to cursor teleportation, please note that Macbook's bluetooth adapter is really dogshit and once you connect a bit more devices it will lag all of them.
@nevaknowmanamesame5089
@nevaknowmanamesame5089 4 ай бұрын
Rival 3, works fine with bt. Batteries last a month, and it has a dongle. I like it for gaming too
@lucadanielionescu6653
@lucadanielionescu6653 4 ай бұрын
Last year, I bought Logitech M650L, but few months ago, I switched to Magic Mouse 3 black version and I have no regrets.
@XNaos
@XNaos 4 ай бұрын
Did you bought the MX 3 for Mac or with dongle? Apperently the for Mac version doesnt come with these caviats on Mac.
@z3us89
@z3us89 Ай бұрын
I do use the Master MX 3S - i really love that mouse. But I also got the white one and after 20 months its not really white anymore. But other than that, I like it. and the bluetooth is good enough - my Notebook is attached to the table and the connection is good enough through wood. But as you also mentioned - it only has between 90-125Hz. I currently bought a Razer Pro Click. Man that mouse is so much smoother. I only miss the fast scrollwheel of the MX3s. But if I remember correctly, you have to buy the logitech Mouse in the Mac version to be better.
@JulianoFagundes
@JulianoFagundes 23 күн бұрын
I'm so happy with my Logi M590. This thing can connect 2 devices via BT and easily switch between then using a button on top of the mouse.
@userkilled
@userkilled 4 ай бұрын
I have a bluetooth lag on both Magic Mouse 3 and MX Anywhere 3s on different MacBooks. I never understood what these mice were praised for - the cursor moved jerkily on the new MacBook M3 Pro. Thanks, I'll try Keychron
@willy7968
@willy7968 4 ай бұрын
I have the apple Magic Mouse and the MX Master 3. The MX master is the better choice cos I use it while I'm connected to monitor, my monitor supports Usb C link, so I simply connect it via the dongle, no lag.... the ergonomics is far better than the Magic Mouse also with more buttons and customisation
@keyboardologist
@keyboardologist 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Very similar experience I tried all the mice except MX because I'm a lefty, imo it's 1. Magic Mouse 2. Razer Viper.
@renoleon8298
@renoleon8298 2 ай бұрын
Razer Pro Click Mini is so underated. Perfect for macbook and Windows switching and even gaming with dongle.
@silentwater79
@silentwater79 Ай бұрын
I have the MX Master 3. And as a Software Dev, I don't want to live without the Scroll Wheel of the MX Master anymore. I have to Scroll a lot through masses of Code and the Scroll Wheel of the MX Master is the best I ever experienced on a mouse so far.
@_kopiter_
@_kopiter_ 3 ай бұрын
all good, but how do you set up scrolling? by default there is also acceleration on scrolling, which means, just a small click of the wheel won't do anything.. On the logitech I managed to set it up nicely, though it's still non-linear.
@ChasedByPenguins
@ChasedByPenguins 3 ай бұрын
Kudos for 4:45 😄. But the Magic Mouse is still to me the best Mac Mouse period just because of the touch all-direction scrolling on top.
@kxmhout359
@kxmhout359 27 күн бұрын
I use AttackShark R1 cheap and come with wire/Bluetooth/usb receiver. It is really good and smooth on mac
@chasemcdude3781
@chasemcdude3781 3 ай бұрын
which Hz did you get I have the option for 4000hz or 1000hz? I have a MacBook Air m1
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