Afterbirth Race vs. Mathas! #2

[@Nicecool76420]

Mathas: That familiar that shoots godhead tears? "NL looks at the familiar that is obviously not shooting godhead tears" NL: Yeah, that one

[@Motril98]

+LegendE1even good joke my new master

[@Crackers2796]

+LegendE1even Nice Meme

[@magicmisteur]

+Samuel Ortega Castilla Mice nem.

[@ShaquilleHarrison]

"It's not tech.x!" Yes! Finally! "It's tech10!" Ah for fucks sake.

[@Miser_Mask]

Yes, it was terrible.

[@williamprice96]

What is it called then?

[@ShaquilleHarrison]

+William Price it's just Tech X. no roman numeral, just the letter.

[@williamprice96]

+Shaquille Harrison oh thanks.

[@ShaquilleHarrison]

+William Price for sure

[@WolfiePwnzU]

If 'Tech X' is 'Tech 10' then 'IV Bag' is '4 Bag'

[@Nick46289]

11:13 Yeah, it's trash. It... what slows enemy projectiles in a large area around you? Hot. Garbage! It's not like this game is some sort of a bullet hell or anything, right?

[@baby333]

+Nick Chegodaev Mr. can't find an angel room Chegodaev XD

[@t900HAWK]

+Nick Chegodaev pretty much a 360 night light

[@zopilote7]

ok, after about 100 hours in to afterbirth I just want to ask if I'm the only person a bit disappointed? It's not bad in any sense of the word, just not really all that game changing for me. A lot of the new items feel like fodder, with a few notable exceptions. The small rooms are just a pain and don't feel all that well thought out, and the L rooms are just kind of bland. The over abundance of new pill types really changes a lot of core strategy within Isaac, and Hush, which can be fun, more often than not feels tedious. Greed mode is cool, but I honestly don't think I'll ever play it again after I get everything done. Dailies are easily the best addition, given tons of replay value to a game built on replay, but even that is stunted slightly by an awkward scoring system that makes me change my natural way of playing(though this can be a plus to some). Afterburth is a great expansion that's still working out the kinks, but that's all it feels like; dlc, nothing more nothing less. Maybe my gripes stem from Rebirth only being about a year old, the wait between WotL and Rebirth was so natural that it's hard for me to not naturally expect the same leap forward with Afterbirth. These are just my ramblings though.

[@kaeriax]

It isn't as good as I thought it would be but.. it isn't the worse.

[@williamprice96]

I thought that was the point of afterbirth, to be like dlc.

[@zopilote7]

+William Price you're not wrong, the hype was just really strong. Though that's more a problem with the Isaac community; we're too devoted and in love with the game to not salivate at anything Isaac related.

[@flubs2298]

+Home4infiniteLosers I like it, get everything and just get one absurd ass run. That changed my opinion really quick. At least for now.

[@knox140]

Isaac is starting to feel very overproduced IMO. I don't see how they plan to add more content in without the game just becoming a bit of a mess.

[@A1phaz0ne]

I don't understand why NL told Mathas how to get Mom's knife.

[@Cubicthing]

+A1phaz0ne Sportsmanship?

[@forgethype6026]

+Bill Cipher Sportsmanship would be not lying about getting Mom's knife, him telling Mathas about Mom's knife was kind dumb if he wanted to win.

[@goodguy5063]

+A1phaz0ne To ruin the ipecac with damage that was just far too tempting

[@A1phaz0ne]

Bill Cipher Then wouldn't he tell Mathas about the treasure room in the name of 'sportsmanship'? He didn't though, because he didn't want Mathas to know what was up. Then he does a 180 and tells Mathas exactly how to get Mom's Knife.

[@NnoittraJiruga]

+A1phaz0ne Because it's not as fun for him or Mathus when he steamrolls ahead and finishes 10 minutes before Mathas

[@HarryModN]

Neither of them deserve to win after the shit I just witnessed

[@vene]

Props to NL for rerolling a powerful but boring run. Props to Mathas for following him on the road to madness, making the whole thing much more enjoyable.

[@josehurtado1095]

I love seeing two friends having a friendly race like this. Really great content - keep it up!!!

[@zachparker3000]

did..... did Mathis just say that sacrificial dagger is trash??

[@LeeDee5]

+Zachary Parker he did I raged a little on the inside. :(

[@zachparker3000]

+Techno Graphics true but it still blocks shoots

[@zachparker3000]

+Zachary Parker shots*

[@ulimitwynn5959]

He said in another race that he thinks that it does less damage than cube of meat (bullshit).

[@zachparker3000]

+Ulimit Wynn it does the same and the hitbox for sacrifice dagger is bigger

[@leowong8777]

NL, Mathas posted this 5 days ago.

[@noatiendoboludos]

Haha this late egg

[@M1chael_]

+POINTLESS GUY Judging by the audio volumes I'm guessing Eggman lost his files and had to get them from Mathas.

[@sadekausi]

+MCTV96 Mathas edits these so the audio is always his

[@Eluc]

+Match Montane l8 m8

[@OxP2]

+POINTLESS GUY Why do they both post these? You would assume they'd alternate who's channel it's posted on cause it's the exact same. Just me?

[@JoeGoreBass]

Doesn't want to tell Mathas what's in the first room Tells him how to get Mom's Knife

[@harambleach5008]

I want ruka to play the game

[@flubs2298]

+GoldGambler Yolo We need this to be a legit strawpoll.

[@pwinap7844]

+GoldGambler Yolo I think ruka would always get guppy XD

[@harambleach5008]

+Bob Jones (BOSSFACE0306) nah dawg there's a new transformation called ruka didn't u hear lol u can one hit anything

[@luker.6967]

With the ryuka transformation you have soymilk tear rate, but your tears are chaos cards.

[@flubs2298]

Luke R. With whole room explosions and pyromaniac! Also claws

[@Jess1ekins]

I was feeling sad and this cheered me up a lot, I love you guys!

[@RonaSpreader]

ya you both have to stop helping the other. ryan getting mathas to use the d4 and ryan telling mathas to grab mom knife. other than that good run

[@LiBear]

+championofbeer l I don't think d4 is helping mathas though lol

[@bradanstey473]

wow great race! Mad props to NL for basically staying even with Mathas's OP run for 2 floors after D4ing. Looking forward to the next race!

[@Snitsky9]

"Sac dagger is trash". Good items according to Mathas: Mom's Knife, Brimstone.

[@hollowrun]

I think these race/greed modes are very entertaining. Keep up the good work NL love your videos

[@remus8221]

My opinion is that a normal episode , not one like this is better , but I like this one too , keep up the good work NL.

[@napshare1887]

In my opinion, Censer is better than Stopwatch. (If I'm not mistaken Stopwatch only works for the room if you get hit now)

[@ferginterplanetaire]

The races vs. someone are my favorite thing. That's great!

[@GDKsan]

Since the nerf of stop watch, censor is like the best slowing thing there is.

[@Terker2]

+GDKsan But as it is situational it's still a B class item at best.

[@LuxCalum]

+GDKsan It was nerfed? I think that's one of the few nerfs that I would be fine with XD

[@Terker2]

LuxCalum It only works upon taking dmg. You lose the effect, when exiting he room. Still top notch item.

[@GDKsan]

Terker2 top notch item? well good luck making it work with the lost now. The censor works with him.

[@Terker2]

GDKsan I don't measure the worth of an item by whether or not the lost makes good use of it.

[@CadlerCraft]

One of the best series

[@arthurswitsers9573]

I love these races, they are my favorite

[@Popi89ferezzx]

this is the best thing on your channel right now to me man :D

[@DerpyMustache]

Eggscum why dont you pick up spacebar items to remove them from the pool and get closer to transformations...

[@angelash8998]

+Halcyonacoustic gg 5 seconds

[@ianbrown5116]

northernlion I like these racing runs I like to see just how different a run can get just by getting one item and if it is for the best or not I love your content keep doing what you are doing.

[@Kaidryn]

Props to Mathas for also rerolling

[@jackmendoza5604]

more of this im loving this. PLZ THIS

[@onlydimitri221]

i like how NL told Mathas how to basically win (in the sense of, NL with cac +knife vs Mathas with only the cac) then NL 'let him win' by re-rolling his run (and re-rolling the D4). the Mathas almost died on the winning run and re-rolled into the same run as NL.

[@RobbyBobbyBoy]

NL trying to guess the item at the beginning has made me realize he's been zany for so long that his definition of a good item is different than anyone else

[@joosewv]

Props to Mathas for using the D4 instead of taking an easy win. It made the video much more entertaining for me at least.

[@iamstickfigure]

Lol. This was very entertaining. Such a close race.

[@MissAlexandria69]

My god, the luck of the egg is unreal. I think he's paying off RNGesus these days.

[@Snitsky9]

"The box didn't give me a good trinket". Good trinkets according to NL: Curved Horn, Cancer.

[@aledburns3005]

I did my first D20 Greed mode run today. Bloody Brilliant!!!!

[@baby333]

Awesome, do more of these !

[@MrLuistoral]

glad to see I'm not the only one camping at NL'S channel

[@zants_]

Mathas would have won had he not stood in that room for ages after he D4'd trying to figure out what he got... ugh. At least the race was close for once.

[@Glovvox]

NL why did you tell Mathas about Mom's knife? Defeats the whole purpose of the "vs." portion of this series.

[@AllistorRichards]

"Most of the familiars suck" When will you guys learn that they've legit become one of the best things in Rebirth thanks to the Conjoined transformation. . .

[@cobraattack23]

yay i beat them both. Rerolled my run with d4 like 8 times to get a half decent one with proptosis, rubber cement, spoon bender, and dead eye

[@gayatrimehra7292]

What is your schedule for these because I love these

[@adribruh788]

Really good vid. Keep up the good work. PS: greed is love greed is life, more of it no daily

[@drak0056]

"Alright, I got your seed, you ready?" "Yeah, I'm ready"

[@Brumbo]

So is he not going to post fallout videos anymore or did I miss something during a stream?

[@MrZelnoth]

According to the wiki spun is +2 dmg not 3. Also a small speed up. (+0.05)

[@Hemlock2009]

Does NL know that the audio is from Mathias's run? Not his own?

[@tommygun725]

I WANT MORE

[@RockR277]

I feel like I've seen this before somewhere....

[@adumho]

"Sac dagger is pretty trash"... What?! It's the best orbital in the game! It pretty much insta-kills most enemies and annihilates bosses. Also, censor is really powerful. It can slow projectiles and makes the late boss fights so much easier.

[@ortah2616]

I think Mathas was just kidding.

[@chrisng4523]

As soon NL D4ed i switched to mathas run

[@chrisng4523]

+Chris Chen and this whole run went from amazing to pretty much wtf happened here

[@TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld]

I don't understand why NL takes Mom's Knife when Ipecac + Mom's Knife has lower DPS than Ipecac on its own, and also doesn't have the ability to blow up rocks or the reroll machine. Edit: And now they've both done it! I guess it doesn't matter since they rerolled anyway, but still...

[@evanromanowski4862]

Hey can anyone help me with how to unlock the lost? I tried dieing with the 4 characters and it didnt work and I dont know how to unlock the lost.

[@phillipcargileii9198]

You know something when northernlion re-rolled the d4 he got the d100 though and was looking for it for the rest of the vide lol

[@Jox9]

i like this races pls more

[@leowong8777]

Oh, you forgot to change the thumbnail into afterbirth themed.

[@Gunslinger744]

"Afterbirth Race vs Mathas" The... NorthernLion story...?

[@swagbaron486]

the real question is:why did mathas walk over the spikes instead of ipecacing the battery out?

[@Cryptonat]

Lets be honest... Mathas would have lost even if he didn't take the D4.

[@donwilly3603]

What did we learn kids? We roll ourselfs into a good build! Not out of one.

[@adgepipkin2715]

Why not race a daily?

[@Erutrepa]

You are always the winner NL give Mathas a chance

[@rawrinmypants176]

Nah, if NL went any easier Mathas would never improve.

[@LostOasis12]

Censer has single-handedly won me a hush fight, yet The Egg says it's "not good". Da fuq?!

[@slothman9731]

I the versus mode but I don't like it when they help each other. It kinda breaks the element.

[@MrCapi95]

Please redo the screen layout! Half of it is occupied by the names and the isaac logo, and it's very uncomfortable:((

[@JonflipZoosa]

I must be hallucinating, it looked as if Dead Bird just won him the race.

[@georgelowe3962]

I stopped watching after he re rolled the D4

[@Katekyo504]

+George Lowe Mathas D4 as well if it helps.

[@georgelowe3962]

I might give it a go

[@Andrew-tj5yt]

+George Lowe ok your butthurt?too bad nigga too bad

[@AxeSwingingManiac]

+George Lowe I cringed so hard when he didnt reroll again with the free batteries he spawned with battery baby (or whatever its called)

[@georgelowe3962]

+Kappa Master it hurts

[@unluckyrat3961]

Why don't you race with baer? Also I loved this. More greed mode!

[@gsppuffer]

I think Mathis only hit greed about 10 times cause of his range most the damage was attack fly

[@MartinWAMPAllen]

Oh Daddy. The moment you picked the D6 back up i knew it was coming. Why do you hurt us like this,

[@ozthegreatandpowerful4775]

You guys mean Tech cross?

[@MercMercury]

LOL Mathas called Sacrificial Dagger trash!

[@theworldeatswithyou]

I knew NL would reroll the D4, always skipping 2 steps.

[@gsppuffer]

If there racing greed mode I think the amount of money at the end should figure into it.Every penny equals 10 seconds

[@thegenero6809]

you guy should do a daily together.

[@szaszalex2351]

nortnelion you need to unlock the Keeper and go with him and kill:mom,boss rush,it lives,Isaac,blue baby,mega Satan. a lot of achibements

[@rawrinmypants176]

He knows. Unlocking the character takes time.

[@KevinAccetta]

This race had an overload of dumb damage, from both sides I also don't think Mathas realized he slowed down so much that NL caught up, even before he had picked up the d4 himself. He could've won easily, even after picking up the d4.

[@hei_heidi]

When I got to 897 in the greed machine I unlocked holy mantle for the lost

[@noatiendoboludos]

25 minutes? Must be a speedrun. Oh wait it is!

[@LunarPurin]

Half of me thinks NL should give Isaac a break, the other half wants to see how much he can fail.

[@Vereorr]

Calling Censer trash. Calling an awesome item that slowes enemies in his area trash. That makes me so salty and sad.

[@glitch373]

Wow they both d4ed into weirdly similar runs

[@ValkoorMoonblood]

It's so frustrating to see how much bad damage Mathas takes.

[@masonfinch1678]

Why is the audio better for mathus

[@enderdude1776]

Haha. Why on Earth did Mathas pass over the spikes to get the battery charge on the first floor. could've just used ipecac.

[@nickelcobalt98]

It's saddening reading all the horrible comments here

[@henrythe12th85]

NL, i am still waiting for an Afterbirth episode called "Tyrone"

[@Livestreamlurker]

+Henrique Mendes Would it be a trainwreck run?

[@henrythe12th85]

+Livestreamlurker Could be, yeah, and he would say "thanks tyrone" if he had lost XD

[@ulimitwynn5959]

Only 1 isaac video today?

[@super37david]

I enjoied this more when they actualy play to race, and only tell them about what they get after a wille...

[@gsppuffer]

FYI Mathis it's a race so standing there admiring your shots for a few minutes probably isn't a good idea

[@andrewchesser81]

Have you thought about doing a head to head on screen daily?

[@cathulhu5470]

Mathas confirmed worst player?

[@rawrinmypants176]

Eh, he's alright

[@Dskylance]

Wait what? Fuccboi didn't donate to the greed machine. Facepalm.

[@thepopemichael]

NL, can take shit and literally make it gold.

[@tristanblo]

rerolling with d6 is not the same as rerolling with the reroll machine

[@adityahari5245]

For fuck's sake NL, pick up the pace. Mathas uploaded this ages ago. In fact, the next episode is up on Mathas's channel too.

[@Bah56]

Eve's bird foot?

[@bryannoland1474]

Mathas didn't use wheel of fortune and blow it up

[@brandonhnilo4594]

yes plz do more races offin