Why Smart People Believe Stupid Things

What causes Delusion? The prevailing view is that people adopt false beliefs because they’re too stupid or ignorant to grasp the truth. But just as often, the opposite is true: many delusions prey not on dim minds but on bright ones. And this has serious implications for education, society, and you personally.
In this video in collaboration with Gurwinder, we explore the reasons why intelligent people believe irrational things and what can be done to avoid the allure of delusion.
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[@PedroIgori]

We need to stop conflating educated with smart

[@ephraimwinslow]

"Educated" in modern terms basically just means "well-trained" according to the most annoyingly passive-aggressive HR-based curriculum imaginable.

[@austinsatterfield6792]

Actually I've noticed that collage graduates are often dumbest as it requires being a yes man

[@gallant1772]

@@austinsatterfield6792100% it makes u docile and take less risks.

[@AfterSkool]

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

[@DyceFreak]

Street smarts vs studied intellectuals; I'll take street smarts any day.

[@steveelliott9746]

George Orwell said "Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual would believe them."

[@DesertStateNevada]

Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest scam of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the punching bag for intellectuals.

[@DesertStateNevada]

Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest sham of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the "example" intellectuals keep using when describing lesser people.

[@Yak1312]

@@DesertStateNevadaHitler used schools to indoctrinate his future followers.

[@129jaystreet]

Orwell was a prophet.

[@eoinoconnell185]

I always think of that quote when someone tries to tell me a woman can have a penis etc.

[@michaelplaysgames428]

“Unintelligent people are more easily mislead by other people, while intelligent people are more easily mislead by themselves.” The fact that I didn’t realize this earlier is eye opening. Wow

[@LEgregius]

I don't think there is much truth to this because it doesn't really fix the evidence, so it makes sense that you would not have realized it. People are social and tend to form groups. These groups use identity markers including speech patterns, specific beliefs, and actions to try to weed out people who aren't truly part of their group. This used to be a matter of survival, but now it just means people pick a social group, then change their beliefs based on their group. This is true for everyone. People who have practiced critical thinking skill in a wide variety of scenarios and who understand how to read statistics and studies, and are wiling to go to the effort of trying to prove themselves wrong will have some ability to escape this. These will almost always be intelligent people who value knowing the truth.

[@johnsanko4136]

One of the important parts of our own education that we have lost is doubt. Doubt is a vital tool we use to find flaws in our thoughts and reinforce truths we know, but our culture hates the idea of doubts. Doubts are to be ignored and avoided so as to not disrupt the beliefs we are to cling to. Doubts are uncomfortable and our culture wants comfort over everything. To our culture, doubting is seen as a negative, that you have underlying biased "-isms" preventing you from blindly accepting the narrative message.

[@Marci124]

Doubt is one thing lost, I'll go one even more out there: shame. Or modesty, even.

[@ejtattersall156]

Yes, doubt, shame, modesty, all limit of arrogance which leads to self-rationalization. One thing, however, is, are you looking for the truth or looking to be right? For my own purposes, I don't look for the truth or to be right. I look for what works, and what doesn't work. I have adopted many positions and over time seen that they just don't work. So right wingers think I'm leftist and left wingers think I'm rightist. One thing that makes EVERYONE happy is: the right denies science on climate, and the left, on gender. Took me years to get there.

[@16m49x3]

@@Marci124 shame is seriously lacking in our societies

[@EricK-nm2gg]

Doubt must assume that the person has to doubt themselves, admitting that what they know is insufficient. You mean people should entertain their doubts instead of believing their beliefs? Preposterous! How dare you suggest such blasphemy. My beliefs can’t possibly be wrong.

[@thzzzt]

It feels good when the "truth" is simple. But the real truth never is.

[@randywise5241]

Just because someone is smart, it doesn't mean they are wise.

[@kikilicious99]

Elaborate

[@colinjohnrudd]

And just because someone is wise, it doesn't mean they are smart.

[@Rambam1776]

Nobody was conflating the two, and you have not provided a definition for either, so this statement is as meaningless and stupid as I presume you to be

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳

[@nck4888]

​​@@colinjohnrudd @kikilicious your comments appear as you're offended by the original post

[@AfterSkool]

"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing Not to put it in a fruit salad." - Brian O'Driscoll

[@The13thRonin]

Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is eating your tomato as you ponder the meaningless categorization of various foodstuffs.

[@CAIOFELIPE08]

@@The13thRonin do you think is this meaningless? It often helps to think which category i have to put in my diet

[@JHavoc-rt2fe]

Maybe I like tomatoes in my fruit salad.

[@JamesBrown-rd8og]

Good PoinT

[@JamesBrown-rd8og]

you are very alone in this matter@@JHavoc-rt2fe

[@Brovillion559]

I think the real problem is social media. Before SM you had to go out and learn what you were interested in. And when you spoke you had an understanding a little deeper than others and we learned from each other. Now days everyone can pretend they know more about a subject than they actually do. But they get upset hoping their frustration will suffice as intelligence. It’s insane. There’s so much more to explain.

[@lllordllloyd]

... and every online 'debate' descends almost immediately into personal attack.

[@akeem2983]

On the other hand, internet is the extremely powerful way to gain and spread knowledge. Yes, it could be used both for spreading truth and lies (and I personally had seen a lot of examples when lies too were spreading everywhere until one smart person found out that it's actually not true), but in essence it does make truth spread significantly faster than it was before the internet. It also gives people more opportunities to proof themselves wrong, since a lot of scientific knowledge is open in the internet

[@lllordllloyd]

@@akeem2983 It's not just the speed: in the internet age, reputation means nothing. Having been wrong a dozen times- a hundred times- before is not impediment to pumping out BS and finding a willing audience. Until the 1990s, politicians had to resign, media figures were sacked, liars were sent to oblivion and remembered by the public for being liars (thus discouraging others). Politicians, news channels, celebrities promoting everything from science to cooking, put great stock in being seen to be honest. The internet has freed us from consequences, from the guiding morality of (the better part of) society.

[@kimj5037]

There is a lot of wisdom in this talk. One of the lines that jumped out to me was, "Most goals of thinking are not to reach objective truth, but to justify what we wish to believe." And the solution...."the strongest countermeasure against bias is curiosity."

[@justinbuddy56]

I have a mini whiteboard of quotes I like, I just took this one from the video: “Why do I really believe what I believe? What other reasons besides reason could I have?”

[@kaunas888]

Intelligence is overrated, while honesty is underrated.

[@allesaufanfang-sarah]

truth is underrated, really

[@therealgelogist]

Orienting yourself toward the pursuit of truth no matter where it leads you is the most intelligent way to live.

[@LegioDecemGJCAESAR]

Omg the truth of this statement, but if you also add ignorance it is more encompassing of reality despite sounding contradictory

[@cosmicaudio4589]

If people were honest about their inteligence, 99% of humanity would be classed as knuckle draggers. It's not what you know its who you know and nepotism reigns supreme in todays world!! Some of the most wealthy people on this planet are some of the most inbred dumb fuckers known, but being born into money and employing bright people has always dug them hugh riches!! And greedy people work for them!! Humanity is bizarre and absurd!!

[@treasurethetime2463]

Intelligence is just one of many tools. For a boxer, it's like being fast or strong or agile. None of those attributes individually guarantee success for a boxer. Intelligence is the same thing.

[@DouglasAtkinson]

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Dick

[@theq6797]

Hate is the answer.

[@stylis666]

@@theq6797 I hate you for saying nothing and typing shit anyway. I hope it helps. Can you go away when I stop thinking about you?

[@theq6797]

@@stylis666 Who cares what you feel or think?

[@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj]

"intelligence is giving the bad news to the person as fast as possible.. wisdom is to give time for that person to accept it" One wants things to work out quickly and have progress, the other takes its time cause it knows that this might affect future events of that person badly

[@Kube_Dog]

I don't like that statement. So I'm gonna saying he's smart but biased.

[@alexv3357]

I've always expressed this idea as "being good at one thing has absolutely no bearing on one's skill at any other thing."

[@Kenji-117]

The worst thing is when you break the ego of an "intelligent" person by proving the person wrong and you see them snapping. the ego takes full control and the irrational argumentation or coping starts happening. It's so scaring how many people have a fragile mental fortitude and are so incapable of critical thinking.

[@DeleteMyas]

It's more scary that you're letting losers like that scare you. : |

[@MadsterV]

Once one, when shown wrong, exclaimed "what am I supposed to say here" And me, naively expecting him to admit he was wrong. What a fragile ego, tied to being right about everything constantly.

[@moneymike226]

I know this to be true, just as I know logical fallacies and cognitive biases to be true, but I still find it so crazy. If I can be proved wrong about something, I love it. Being proved wrong means I was provided information I didn't have. I'll never be mad about learning something.

[@punkrockmonsters2660]

Do you see how ironic it is you are the one who proved them wrong in your experience? I see this too in others that is easy, the hard part is seeing it happen to me, the shame of realizing too late or even worse not at all.

[@user-gc8pc3ol6l]

Like climate change deniers, the idiots during the pandemic who think they knew everything about virology and immunology ? Just dumb people trying to prop up their insecurities with social media science.

[@armorbearer9702]

You reminded me of what Theodore Roosevelt said about thieves. He said, "A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad".

[@wrestlingPC]

Must have been talking about, Andrew Carnegie.

[@user-gu2yy6kq9y]

I'm sure Roosevelt knows all too well about this subject. He graduated with honorable mentions!!

[@fbcpraise]

Wow, thanks for sharing that.

[@rosemarietolentino3218]

Can’t do that without a education.

[@bvdswqawe11]

@@wrestlingPCwell said,you lefty brainiac ,but you forget how many benefited from his " thievery"

[@gerberjoanne266]

"Without the right personal qualities, more education won't make you a master of your biases, it will only make you a better servant of them." Wow! That is so well said!

[@daughterofTheLion]

Perfectly describes modern medicine!

[@sophiepooks2174]

@@daughterofTheLionGood stuff one more free hospital bed for someone who is thankful for modern medicine.

[@sophiepooks2174]

Yet sadly so many on here are too blinkered, too obsessed with buzzwords they hear their peers saying, but don't seriously care to enlighten themselves or question any thing they believe in, change is never easy in the beginning but we adapt.

[@masterlinktm]

@@sophiepooks2174 "more free hospital bed" please take them. I'll go on living a healthy natural life not pupped full of chemicals 24/7

[@samr.england613]

So glad to see that you think of yourself as so well-spoken. (You did, however, put it in quotes, so, are we to assume it's not YOUR quote?) If so, who's is it, then?

[@Ice-yp4wg]

I've always had massive gripes with how painfully often seemingly just causes can become corrupted and social justices that should've been good just end up being absolute cesspools but couldn't ever pinpoint why until now. This really gives quite some insight.

[@Asto508]

There are no just causes and people who claim to pursue them are usually just in for the very most ulterior motives. Those who are not are too deluded about reality and will be just overwhelmed by the former as soon as the "just cause" gains enough traction.

[@nmpolo]

Please could you give an example of a "just cause"? "Social justice" is a synonym for mob rule. We have legislation for obtaining justice; vigilantes shouldn't be implementing their own justice.

[@chuckleberryfinn1992]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@flashlightwashcloth7283]

⁠@@Asto508So cleaning up pollution isn’t a just cause? I bet most people who have made this a priority in their lives are in it for all the right reasons. I don’t have an ulterior motive, so that means I’m deluded? And my attempts to clean up pollution will be overrun by people who jump on the bandwagon one day? I really doubt all of that. Even if people just recycle because they think it will get them laid, it still helps. If you stop throwing trash on the highway because you want to feel self-righteous, the effect is still positive. Your negative outlook sounds like a result of bad experiences and/or negative people and/or depression. Reality is not all as bad as you think

[@Asto508]

@@flashlightwashcloth7283 Do you think it's justified to murder people for ecological reasons? If not, why do you even bother to reply?

[@gavinminion8515]

So where do we go next? If a person is curious and lets go of their ego, questions their own beliefs and tries to be humble. Then there is a possibility that this person could come to understand one or more of the problems facing the world. If a second person remains incurious, sticks solidly to the belief they think is correct and disregards humility, then presumably this task becomes much harder. However, only the second person would be thought of as being able to wield power. People will gravitate towards the person who says "The solution to this problem is easy and I know it" over the person who says "The solution to this problem is complex and I don't know if I can solve it, but I will try". Time and again we vote for people who appear strong, determined and sure of their beliefs, even though these are probably the very people who might be least curious and therefore most prone to delusional thinking. So, where do we go next?

[@t.j.5574]

We live in a world that is drowning in information, but starving for wisdom.

[@hSquaredSunshine]

Perfect

[@altrag3748]

information isn't the same as knowledge but yeah

[@quinngabrielquirubin3430]

​@@altrag3748exactly the point So much information about this and that, but what do we truly know? Chances are, not much

[@DeleteMyas]

You live in a world where sounding dramatic for likes should be considered a profitable job. ...I think that's also called "The news".

[@t.j.5574]

@@DeleteMyas not about being dramatic. It’s just reality. This has nothing to do with propaganda media.

[@jameseberts3347]

Our modern education system stifles curiosity. When I was in school, in the 1970's, we were taught to question everything, if not by our teachers, by our peers. This was an off-shoot of the 1960's, where "question authority" was a mantra. I find that young people now have little curiosity to question what they are taught. This is a credit, and I mean that negatively, to our educational system, where they have learned to prey on young people's naivety and idealism. As a result, maturity and common sense has been delayed and sometimes completely shut down in millions of people.

[@ankhpom9296]

Public schooling has been dumbed down. We need workers, not thinkers.

[@blastically]

In college you are taught to memorize and to give back the answers that your teachers want. Except within very strict parameters you are penalized for wondering if something is really true, for questioning revealed truths or for independent thinking.

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

@@ankhpom9296 There's no longer much need for workers, only servants.

[@CerealDust-nStuff]

There’s a free PDF online titled “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” that is an absolutely fascinating read, yet also horrifying.

[@WrongParadox]

@@ankhpom9296 modern public schooling was originally for producing workers for industry - "purpose of school turned more toward economic development " (Industrial Revolution) -- dumbing down isn't a recent thing. The methods and masks used are the only real change.

[@amberspicks547]

I’m picking up the faint scent of confirmation bias around this video.

[@The_Malaka]

That’s what a leftist would say!!!! 🤡

[@danguee1]

You're a Leftist, aren't you?!?

[@The_Malaka]

@@danguee1 🤣🤣🤣

[@juliandarch9278]

And that's the issue, you are not curious you are looking for a fight!

[@SoloRenegade]

your comment proves the whole point of the video.

[@davidcarter8012]

What I've seen is that the more words a person uses to justify a choice or belief, the more likely they are to be deluding themselves. Because of that, I try (and fail) to notice when I'm explaining in great detail a simple idea to myself and ask "am I lying? Is this what lying feels like? Is this thing TRUE?" Not just political things. Multiple choice tests, social relations, etc.: when I second-guess a test answer, the first time was right. And so on. The medium of delusion is words. The medium for understanding is sight.

[@DCRlive]

“A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.”

[@jarbear7000]

Some people's minds are so open that their brains fall out

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳

[@haraldtheyounger5504]

An open parachute is not much use on ground level. Indeed, becomes just a burden.

[@bobbyblazini]

And you'll never know if it works until you deploy it and use it

[@user-tg1pu5mo2r]

​@@jarbear7000😁 what I was about to write 👌.

[@damianmarley7177]

For about 5 years, I fell for everything one party would say… and then I studied both sides and fell for what both believed. The only difference now, I go find why propaganda wants us to believe and who funds it.

[@Alpha-ro8sc]

They give us our heroes and villans. Funding & fueling each side. Imagine how it will be when we realize that we are all one.

[@Shadow_banned_again]

Exactly. It’s a divide and conquer scheme.

[@jjhoughton2812]

🌍 any sides?

[@Alpha-ro8sc]

@@jjhoughton2812 All sides are an illusion. Anything to divide us. Anything & everything.

[@caligirliniowaworld]

I grew up Republican In SoCal... flipped when I saw folks losing their life savings and increase of biases. I've been a centrist for better part of 20 years. Voting in the best interest of the community I live in... my military life taught me that most folks want the same things regardless of where they live... the major issue with extreme left or right is the lack of critical thinking and self-interest vs. communal needs. Individualism failed to teach people to work on and love themselves (EQ), and instead, egoism has taken over. People who argue, only want to be right to assert their individuality (ei. Belong to a group) instead of learning to find common ground and truth. People lie to themselves a lot, unfortunately (cognitive dissonance).

[@jonahblock]

so how do we know this video isn't immune from its own biases? I feel it went after woke pretty hard while ignoring the reasons made it necessary for some people when religion is clearly the greatest example of smart people being dumb as hell

[@ebookfay]

Rightttt… his part on white fragility makes me wonder whether he has truly examined the phrase or whether he chose to just dismiss it out of a need for personal comfort

[@ct-gt2dt]

How is religion clearly the greatest example of smart people being dumb as hell if most intellectuals since the 1700s have been effectively atheist (even most of the American forefathers despite their legal language) ?? Please elaborate.

[@VandalCatt]

@@ebookfay Well actually I thought he was pretty clear about 'white fragility' on the point made about claims of objective reality. Prove that 'White Fragility' is anything but a subjective concept please...

[@begelston]

Do you see any holes in its arguments and presentation? It seemed pretty solid to me.

[@denofpigs2575]

​@@ebookfayDefine white fragility

[@leonardwood8213]

He’s looking at reality through a cardboard tube

[@xwing2417]

It's almost like he's guilty of what he's claiming 'woke' scholarship is up to. Woke means whatever they want, so they can feel safe not liking the ideas presented.

[@alewis8765]

"Trust those who seek truth. Doubt those who claim they've found it." I heard this about twenty years ago, don't remember who gets the credit.

[@samr.england613]

Kind of like men who say they've, 'figured women out'!

[@jimmyyounger618]

I think it's, "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." ~ Andre Gide. He won the Nobel Prize in literature in 1947. I liked your quote enough to seek the truth about it. True story. Trust me!

[@sde9023]

​@@samr.england613I've figured them out, and my analysis shows... they're all crazy!!

[@mcfarvo]

​@@jimmyyounger618uh oh, are you claiming to have found the truth about the source of that quote?! 🤔

[@jimmyyounger618]

@@mcfarvo 😄 I knew I'd heard that quote or something close, but couldn't remember anything else about it. DuckDuckGo claimed to know that Bookbrowse>quotes knew all about it. I'm just a humble messenger of those claims. 👼

[@brucehaulley8117]

"Winning arguments" versus "discerning truth". Well said.

[@ianjamison5460]

Great statement yes

[@kungfumachinist]

I watched a vid the other day with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and others. Someone from the audience was challenging them, kind of poorly. He was essentially being ridiculed because "facts are unfair". At the end I figured out Kirk, Owens and the others were interested in "winning debate", while the audience member was interested in learning the (whole) truth.

[@NJGuy1973]

Jim Jones won arguments with 913 people one day.

[@momsbenhameen]

He said trying to win an argument against "wokeism"

[@nmpolo]

I don't know the video you mentioned but I'm not a fan of Owens because she comes across as very arrogant. She loves to say how right she is etc. That's not to say she's wrong about anything, I agree with much of what I've heard her say but she doesn't need to be constantly saying how great she is.

[@sallywilliams421]

'Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence' Robert Anton Wilson

[@ancienbelge]

“Once you can sincerely say, ‘I don’t know’ then it becomes possible to get at the truth.” (Robert A. Heinlein)

[@jdwyer5708]

That's the THE DIVINE LAW OF PRECLUSION in action.. but most of you are too closed off/blocked and/or arrogant to have ever EVEN HEARD of this immutable law.

[@ogi22]

I once had a huge s..t storm in my company, just because I asked a cutomer some really normal questions (at least normal for me). But then I was stormed by my superior, that I was wrong, because I did it so openly and showed everyone that a helpdesk doesn't know the subject... Yeah... It is difficult in the beginning to admit you don't know something. It needs to be trained, especially after being schooled all the time to "look like you are correct". It's hard, and just like After School stated - you have to remind yourself to be curious, no matter how others will think about it.

[@sophiepooks2174]

Sadly for many humans ego, vanity and fear of the unknown gets in the way. Hence faith in the unproven, for the things we don't yet comprehend, or some will never be capable of understanding there is faith based on delusion for comfort.

[@timhallas4275]

The question is, can you be satisfied living life without knowing what is true. Believe it or not, the majority of people you know probably are.

[@jdwyer5708]

@@timhallas4275While you are right.. that's not how it works. I teach the universe. Free-will specifically means you are allowed to feel FALSEHOOD and TRAUMA and other ERROR in your subconscious/half-soul as TRUTH. That is literally what free-will is. - The Earth experience in general is VALID-BUT-FALSE. The experience consists of emotions so has validity.. but they are not true so that experience will be degraded over time.. just as you yourself will kill your own physical body over time by being ignorant and out of alignment with divine forces of LOVE and TRUTH. All things TRUE/LOVING (from divine perspective not mans) do not degrade and such worlds exist multiple spheres above where Earth collective consciousness resides

[@Azathoth43]

Something I noticed several years ago and have tried to actively apply ever since is, if I hear a piece of information and I have strong emotional reaction to it that's the signal to take a step back and look at all the facts and other information before forming an opinion or "taking a side." Also, life is too short to die on every hill.

[@RedSky8]

Yes, exactly. I've noticed this too, it's also a good idea to understand why it emotionally triggers you. That's at least what I do along with what you mentioned.

[@travisvaught94]

I think this is a key to peace. Good for you.

[@maddytedesco6084]

This is fabulous advice!!!

[@myggggeneration]

@Azathoth43 -- "Also, life is too short to die on every...." Why is this comment cut off???? Pls add the rest of your comment.

[@Azathoth43]

Life is too short to die on every hill. Sometimes it's good just to let things go.@@myggggeneration

[@LuddyFish_]

I always try to stick by this rule of thumb: "You can never prove something. You can only accept or reject it. A majority of cases, you'll have to reject it. And those cases where you accept it, you may have to reject it later on."

[@allenatkins2263]

"I'm suspicious of all agendas, especially my own."

[@NJGuy1973]

I have an agenda. If you don't like it, I have others.

[@bunblanche1104]

I try living by the mantra: Stay humble, stay teachable, seek the truth and always keep learning.

[@awesomelegs]

I like this 👍 💯

[@thebigdog2295]

A very good outlook for life.

[@npcimknot958]

Yup.. agree.. learn to take the L.. i think is the best thing.. we don’t always have to be right… and we should question everything its how we get better as a whole.. and if you’re right all the time.. mmmm you’re starting to resemble a certain moustache man

[@edwardhannah8507]

Can't believe I'm defending Indiana Jones 4 here but there's a moment where he says "If you want to be an archaeologist, get out of the library."

[@user-ol9qu7zi7o]

Amen Brother- Thumb up ... Prof Allright

[@tomservo75]

"An explanation so illogical that only an academic could think of it." This video is full of gems, I'm going to have to find more from this guy. He puts things in a way I've never been able to verbalize.

[@Kineticboy2K1]

It's like you made this video specifically for me. I've been asking myself these questions and finding myself frustrated at not knowing how to articulate these feelings. I try to be humble and I enjoy being curious, but yes, I can't let myself be complacent that my humility and curiosity shields me from bias.

[@maorthekinglong]

Make your self a rule to listen to both sides and look for truth before you take a position.

[@Kineticboy2K1]

@@maorthekinglong Yes. Too many falsehoods being told by too many people for selfish or ignorant reasons.

[@gjclark2478]

I had a client who was born in the late 1920's and grew up in depression and ww2 as a child. She grew up in hardship and after the war she went into nursing. When I asked her why, she replied ; during the war we saw pow's marched through the town. They built roads and bridges and were welcoming to chat with residents. They talked about family back home and how they were only doing what they were told. She could see ( she left school with no qualifications) that nursing was a benefit to humanity and such we are no different. She became the first woman in the SW of England to be promoted to a managerial career in the nhs as top dog of nursing . She was wise, level headed and sharp as a tack even when she died a few years ago. She put it down to the fact that as a child she was hungry all the time. Christmas was just another day. And once you realise that only you can change the situation you are in, you only have yourself to blame if you stay that way. She landed up marrying a German pow. It's strange, she had seen life not from tv but lived it, her stories were like straight to the point, no BS and not filtered. She was brought up to hate Germans, but married one and she was the first person to tell me the propaganda was despicable during WW2 that she could see through it. For the record, her garden was exceptional and she knew the common and botanical names of every plant in her garden. She died in 2022 and her memory lives on by me talking about her. My point is, she was wise, called a spade a spade and had critical thinking. She had no " qualifications " but saw the world differently.

[@robertkeyes258]

She sounds like a remarkable woman.

[@ConnorWilliamson-pf3zi]

@@robertkeyes258 indeed, like someone that would make you think about just how lucky you are to have known someone like them.

[@danielwinter441]

the brother on brother wars are despicable and only happen through lies, i love that you put effort in writing the story.

[@berserker5551]

Corny

[@BarnDoor-won5ve]

In celebration of this video's theme, go check out a documentary called: "E V R O P A: The Last battle" And you'll get an idea of just how bad the lies and propaganda were and remain about that entire conflict. It's not what any of us grew up being taught to believe it was. You won't find it on youtube. You are going to have to use alternate, less censored platforms. That alone should tell you something. Everyone is always so concerned with Russia and China, but I'm here to tell ya that no one does propaganda quite like America. There's another great documentary on youtube you can find about a guy named Edward Berneys. He was the nephew of Sigmund Freud and is credited with being THE father of propaganda. It's called "The Centruy of Self"

[@williamw3501]

i was arguing with someone awhile back. he asked, " If you were wrong, would you want to know? if you're honest, explain to me what it would take to change your mind?". broke me as a young man. Now I ask myself that all the time, when examining my own beliefs. I also use those same two questions anytime someone wants to argue or debate. if they can't answer those questions sincerely, i just shake my head and say, " i understand." That has saved me a lot of time and frustration. 👍

[@g.w.hampton5525]

ohhhhh good questions.. I had to put a comma in the second one to understand but my first thought was to pose them to my daughter since our beliefs are very different but then I had to stop and put them to myself.. this is going to take some thought.

[@planetvegan7843]

You sound like you are ready to become vegan.

[@williamw3501]

@@planetvegan7843 lol no. I actually raise buffalo. hopefully ostrich soon.

[@g.w.hampton5525]

@@planetvegan7843 bleh if you mean me, I tried not eating meat after a traumatic death but I'm a carnivore. My niece said I eat steak like an alligator =))

[@scarasara]

Me too my grandpa used to say if u were completely wrong would u want to know? and I always try really hard to understand the other sides opinions and views I really do. And I'm not afraid to admit there are some things I'm on the fence about. We're all still learning we never stop learning and who knows something could happen in one of our lives that could change our whole outlooks, ya know

[@gam3tam3r]

"The constant interrogation of my own beliefs and motives" is exactly what makes others see me as insecure.... when truth is that I'm anything but... I love learning... but resent it's effect... this... what you've presented... has even more facets beyond what you've described, and I absolutely applaud your efforts... please make more videos.

[@HumbleBill]

So, in short: "If you master debate too much, you could go blind."

[@arthurrobey4945]

" Who lack the capacity for the mental gymnastics required to justify such intricate delusions". Suddenly I don't feel so bad. That's a keeper.

[@bunk95]

Delusions are fictional. Justify in place of?

[@samlafontaine8552]

​@bunk95 I think it means to justify their actions taken that were initiated by their delusion. 🤷‍♀️ I could be wrong. Since I'm not sure what you meant 😅

[@bunk95]

@@samlafontaine8552 thats not justify. The thought delusion?

[@ianjamison5460]

I dispute the term "lack of capacity", there are those of us who have plenty of capacity but refuse to join in the bs games so many play.

[@omnimetric84]

That phrase caught my attention too. Perhaps replace “justify” with “rationalize”?

[@thereare4lights137]

Carl Sagan's message was spot on. Question everything. Encourage children to question all they are taught. It's not about right and wrong. It's about the process of asking why something is the way it is. Ignore those that ridicule you for asking "stupid" questions. Question every part of your reality, and do the legwork to find your own answers. Everything else is a distraction to keep you complacent.

[@glenpeters9097]

The signature on my email said Play Fair, Play Nice, and Question Everything. I didn't know I was quoting Sagan... I'm still not sure, I should check. Na, it fits my bias. 🙂

[@jiggsborah7041]

I read somewhere a long time ago that the earth was created for the instruction of the soul. Basically it's a school.

[@simonthorneycroft1339]

A distraction from what to make you compliant with what?

[@robmichael8136]

Thats a decent start. Considering public schools and universities are now modern day indoctrination factories of approved narratives and thought.

[@rey_nemaattori]

And even better regarding ecouraging kids to wonder: a parent having to explain everything gets another chance to analyse their own biases and reasons.

[@Gamepwn3]

This is somthing ive always sort of understood in the back of my head. Be open to the idea of being wrong, this video helps really re enforce that and gives new light to the mindset that makes it seem less stressful when people combat me on it.

[@artlifetheatre]

The central point is overshadowed by the biased judgments of “wokeism”… either the creator judging all liberally minded people based on the most extreme examples of people who consider themselves liberals, or he’s creating a straw-man to dismiss anything that he considers “woke”… “Woke” means having awareness of social injustice, it’s as simple as that. So by definition, anyone who follows his advice to be curious is doomed to become “Woke” by definition as they become aware, regardless of which side of the debate they are on. White nationalists claiming persecution are by definition “Woke” because they believe themselves to be aware of a social injustice against white people.

[@jwriccardi]

Agreed, it's like the creator lost track of the original point and went on a bizarre conspiracy theory tangent of his own. Is this intentional self-satire to illustrate the point?

[@vapx0075]

This wishy washy nothing video makes me unreasonably angry. 1. By educating ourselves against our biases we introduce more biases into our thinking? Are we supposed to burn books or read them, what's the actual take here? 2. There's no nuanced discussion about self love as a helpful tool in one's personal weight loss journey it's just "Fat bad", like, common sense would provide that much, no? 3. And why is equality a debatable topic? Performative wokeness might be grating, but nothing improves without some kind of grandstanding to raise awareness. Can't we have a conversation on the usefulness of these behaviours? No? I think I should start a new video collection of sh*t takes just so I can do video essays ripping them apart. What's worse is 99.99% of these comments think this video is helpful. Like, dude, what were your biases before this video? That dogs are better than cats? 4. OP just pretending that intersex people haven't been medically documented. Talk about biases! I'm not X, I don't know an X, therefore X doesn't exist/need fair treatment. If something is medically documented, there is a statistic for it, therefore it exists. Fact, not opinion. I struggle to accept this level of stupidity; that's the bias I need checked at this point. The nuance is they need to churn out content for the algorithm and also maybe they asked an AI to write it. See, even a moron like me can be sympathetic of the stupid. Or at least I continue to try. Dude should have spent more time on it.

[@sovietunion7643]

'woke' is used to mean far left, social justice, or whatever you want to call it, thats what he is talking about. the people who hate white people for no reason and think gender can be changed with a thought. he DID NOT say 'liberal minded people' in general. he even spent several parts in the video where conservatives used cognitive bias in the wrong way as well with the slavery justifications back in the day and the KKK, so its not like he didn't try to take swings at both sides, its just that social justice is the far more powerful force in politics and academia right now so its hard for him not to talk about it.

[@flashlightwashcloth7283]

I see where you guys are coming from, but perhaps you haven’t met the people he is referring to or you did not perceive them in the way I have(or maybe you are those people.)😮 He isn’t using the word “Woke” to refer to people who are aware of injustice or willing to speak up about it. Many of my fellow liberals have taken supporting oppressed groups in a weird, unhelpful direction. Example: Any decent person will agree that being fat doesn’t mean you should be shamed or judged, but we know it still happens. “Woke” people see this and decide the best response is to try and convince everyone that being fat is actually healthy. Most people can tell that it isn’t healthy, but speaking out against these people makes it seem like you’re an asshole. The woke make arguments that a lack of fat models in clothing commercials is bigotry and it leads to fat people feeling unattractive. I think the common sense reason is that models are meant to be attractive so that they sell more clothes. Most people don’t find rolls attractive. The woke have such a fixation on comforting people (or looking like they are) that they ignore common sense and often fail to address any real issues.

[@flashlightwashcloth7283]

@@vapx0075 1. If you’re referring to the bit I think you are, I took it as “Being educated doesn’t mean your ideas are good, it means you have been exposed and informed on many ideas. Some of those ideas are bad and so an educated person needs to be extra vigilant that they don’t become convinced of nonsense.” Keep reading books ofc, just verify book knowledge with real world experience. 2. A talk about self love would have been nice, but a little beside the point. He was using the “woke” ideas around fatness as an example of how smart, educated people can convince themselves of nonsense. If you didn’t like that example, then how would it sound if the same rhetoric was developed around smokers? We know that smoking is unhealthy and that it’s stupid to judge people for smoking, that’s their choice. But what if a large group of people complained loudly about how unfairly smokers are treated? They can’t smoke in restaurants any more, they aren’t fairly represented in tv, there’s not enough studies on how healthy smoking can be, etc. These people fight to make smoking seem cool again and if you don’t think smoking is attractive, then you’re a bigot. The common sense solution is to just not judge people for their personal health choices, but don’t praise people for being unhealthy or pretend it’s healthy. 3. Actually, I agree. Grandstanding and performative calls for change are useful. Even if ppl are just trying to get kudos, it still works. Let’s not shame anyone who is fighting for positive change, no matter their reasons. If you make a video, please post a link😊 4. I agree with you again, there is a spectrum. But, I still see the point he was trying to make. The vast majority of people are very definitely male or female biologically. He is rejecting the idea that a man can become a woman or vice versa. Sure, there are real ppl who are in between. Most aren’t and it feels silly and illogical to be talking to a man and I have to use female pronouns even though he clearly isn’t female. Analogy:If a cat/dog hybrid is created, then a cat/dog spectrum now exists. Does that mean my dog can now identify as a cat? Do I have to pretend her bark is a purr? Do I tell the vet that she’s a cat? (If cats and dogs had a sense of identity and could talk) when I meet a cat, should I ask what species it is, even though it’s pretty clear? I think the gender thing is another great example of how people overthinking things can convince themselves of anything.

[@macgregorlangston5274]

A lot of people forget that the original conception of a liberal arts education primarily involved the development of one’s character through education. This goes all the way back to figures like Plato. The expectation was not just increased knowledge and proficiency in academic skill sets, but the development of a person as a person. The omission of this educational purpose today is one of the biggest problems with modern western academia.

[@eddysgaming9868]

The humanities have been academia's biggest loss. It's purpose was also to teach students how to think for themselves.

[@matthewhall6288]

Well said.

[@russianbot4418]

@@eddysgaming9868 And now it teaches them to not think at all.

[@AM-uh7mv]

It helps you find identity as a human being. You can really see the lack of it in people over age 60; don't know who TF they are after retirement

[@Galvvy]

Being taught how to think critically, and apply multiple sets of ideas to a problem doesn't create "docile competent workers" which is what education has been for the last hundred years.

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

What's the difference between "conspiracy theories" and reality? Now it's just two months.

[@purple.fantasy]

Historical data has shown the conspiracy theories are not conspiracy. They are reality as they have slowly unfolded

[@tomhunter91]

Change the wording around and it doesn't seem so crazy. "He has a theory of a conspiracy" .. interesting isn't it.

[@paulrichard8474]

Hey... That's QUOTABLE!!

[@RunningWithScissors765]

Can’t be a theory if you have evidence, wether factual or circumstantial.. that more than one person is plotting…

[@jamesgrissom6386]

Honest question - I know we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything, but at what point does it become dangerous to just accept any conspiracy just because it’s a conspiracy?

[@nicholascollins4907]

It never occurred to me the connection between humility and curiosity. There’s a lot to delve into there. Your videos are great!

[@user-wj2zv1vd8y]

The narration and the illustrations together are stunning! So glad I found this.

[@XenoRaptor-98765]

If you ask me what truly makes someone smart is always questioning and challenging what is real.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Smart is understanding and/or picking up a given set of rules taken at face value quickly and intuitively. Wise is slowly but surely extracting a sense of perspective and an internal auditing service from every formative experience you've ever had, and learning to apply the axioms thereof universally. They have very little to do with each other on balance.

[@ivermektin6874]

Like how Jaden Smith wonders if our eyes are real?

[@terracannon876]

On top of that, leading with facts and not predefined biases. Someone can always question something sound and find something wrong with it because nothing in the world is absolute, or someone can always go in with an agenda (this happens not just in politics but also in science). But if someone can let the conclusion be data-driven, then the conclusion from the challenge will be more sound as well.

[@lagrangebees]

What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. Couldn't resist quoting Morpheus 😁

[@itsZombieMan]

“Each of us lives dependent, and bound by our individual knowledge, and our awareness. All that, is what we call reality.” -Itachi Uchiha

[@ProjectSoma7]

"To be intelligent is to have a big engine in the car, to be rational is to have a good brake. If you never brake, you'll hit the wall. And if you have a big car, you'll hit the wall hard. You can be extremely intelligent and extremely biased. So above all, be wary of intelligent people more than others, because when they screw up, they screw up harder [...] So be wary of yourself." This is from a French biologist I have seen on KZbin some times ago. This video reminds me of this guy and his quote. I find it quite interesting.

[@slevinchannel7589]

KZbinr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb' and hey, hey, hey: whattt a coincidence, this video goes DIRECTLY to state conservative prpagana laughably easy to dbeunk like "WOKE PROFESSORS RULE THE UNIVERSITIESS AND ARE SPREADINGG BAAAD KNOWLEDGE". No, the video has nailed your coffin, firneds and its aptly-named "Science istn Dogma, your just Stupid". Got the spine to finish it? Haha, why am i even asking, of course not. Theres cliamte-change-deniers in the commentsection, attracted by the Narrative here; i rest my case cause that's sooooo obvioussss. This KZbinr i unsubtle bet will say 'Everything wrong ever'. Leftism debunks all this. Science isnt Dogma, your jut Sutpid, fans of this conservative channel. Man, no wonder your Side is going under

[@LPikeno]

As an amateur racer, I'd change it: intelligence is the powertrain, experience is your brake, rationality are your tires and the ground surface is reality. Life is a track, and the single most important upgrade your car needs for a track is appropriate tires. Better brakes fatigue less, higher power accelerates faster, but you are hindered to do anything useful with both without a good grip. We could extend the analogy further with emotional stability (suspension) and personality (aero and chassis dynamics), but it would get too nerdy.

[@bas5984]

Thank you so much for this video! I really needed this right now. I use my intelligence to reason my victomhood and that I can't get out there and that my parents are to blame. But I am aware of that. I also lose many arguments, because I want to view as many perspectives as possible instead of learning to defend some, that often aren't even true. It's so nice, to have someone, that can talk so well, explain these things (and someone drawing perfect pictures for it). I often feel like I want to express thoughts like this, but I can't produce the right words. Feels sooo frustrating. Thank you.

[@bas5984]

And that a channel with this much reach posts videos like this.

[@marcmarc1967]

Intelligence is not Wisdom. Intelligence is not common sense. Intelligence is not kindness.

[@bruceli9094]

Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society", explains it perfectly. Smart people think they are better than the rest of us, they think they're anointed, so to speak.

[@silrana7166]

spot on! good mention of his book, thanks! :))

[@c.galindo9639]

A bunch of charlatans who self appoint themselves as the way of shaping the lives of others and all of society, that’s what they are

[@danielc6106]

On the contrary. Intelligent people wouldn't necessarily do that. People (stupid and intelligent) with big egos do that. Sowell is quite good at times, but often wrong. He also has a big ego.

[@locklear308]

But see, in my mind being that way means you are "not smart". If that makes any sense; I currently lack the right words to fully express it.

[@craig3567]

More than likely, you have confused your beliefs with what narcissists believe, which is that they are better than everyone else, et cetera, et cetera. Interestingly enough, narcissistic people come in the full intelligence spectrum.

[@konstiyo]

"Being curious makes us humble" that's a great line.

[@Marci124]

I agree because I know I'm both curious and humble.

[@VodShod]

Sadly this video isn't very humble itself. Maybe ask someone who is left leaning about what being woke is about instead of just taking this video's word for it, preferably someone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject. This video is heavily biased and the whole point of it is to setup the strawman at the end.

[@chaomatic5328]

and being humble makes us curious too!

[@chaomatic5328]

@@VodShod it appears you know some stuff about woke, could you explain to me like I'm five? (actually a subreddit name, It's not an insult it just means you need to do... um... in-depth explanation I guess)

[@VodShod]

​@@chaomatic5328 For people on the left woke is just a term referring to actually paying attention to injustices done to others which you were previously oblivious to. Currently republicans use woke to refer to any situation where a minority is in a position of success, they claim that any minority has to have only succeeded due to "diversity hire", and that any minority that has a job which requires high level of skill must be only there due to "woke ideology". Maybe you can figure out why yourself, it is rather obvious in many cases, in other cases people just are parroting what they heard from other republicans. this is a situation where a group of people with a lot of money and a social network arm create a narrative using a strawman to attempt to muddy the waters and demonize their opponents. An clear example of something like this is: like factory owners from the 1870s spreading propaganda that the push to have emergency escape doors was just an effort to support greedy workers in their organized attempt to steal from the righteous business owners. This video is along the same lines, although it does have the Prager U style of obfuscation which gives half truths and makes leaps of logic to push a certain argument, all while giving a veil that it is discussing something that isn't controversial, they also use round about methods of describing what they are talking about. For instance instead of saying outright that you shouldn't trust experts in their fields you start with how intelligent people have been found to have bias then conflate bias with delusion. Claim that intelligent people are as susceptible to it as ignorant people, then slowly twist that into making it look like intelligent people are much more delusional than any other group, then demonize education and make claims that education is all about supporting delusions, then as a guise of "examples" make strawman arguments towards groups you want to demonize while claiming both sides have issues and never giving any example from a side the maker supports. Then use self help statements about curiosity and being humble and a disclaimer of trying to avoid bias to complete the veil of innocence.

[@VandroiyIII]

I tried criticising details of this video and noticed a dilemma, so I deleted the original comment in favor of this one. For a message to spread effectively on this platform, it needs to be optimized for easy, emotional recognition. The top comments here are almost all fuzzy one-liners, emotional stories, or well-known statements people already agree with. Mass voting and algorithms quickly hide content that requires attention or has a slow dopamine response. On top of this comes the culture that is subject of the video. As a result, deeper criticism is so extremely suppressed that its uttering is a waste of time. My own stupidity showed when I once again had the impulse to disagree and debate in this comment section. I should really know better. For decades, I have used various forums, "social media" platforms, and the likes, and seen how too much quality of argument is inversely correlated with success. Invalid means to dumb down and deceive are rewarded, while harsh truth is punished. But yesterday, I still hadn't learned and started typing objections, forgetting the overriding meta-argument that devalues the entire approach. For the odd one who might read to this point, there should be an unsettling implication here. If this is correct and people like me eventually learn it, the result is that we stop objecting if the context fails to reward it. Thereby, the suppression of related opinions is even more effective, exascerbating the groupthink you are subjected to if you do not adapt yourself.

[@incognitodoge7774]

You do speak of the terrible truth. A possible solution is to see the fallacy of the interent. To not view the user and the human be the same. We are void of empathy and get the worst of Paranoia in here. Intellectual discussions are more better suited with real people in real places. Most people tend to watch about rather than read off of the words of authors as well.

[@TrulyAtrocious]

Truth does not lead to reward and therefore people will stop seeking it... That's terrifying...

[@VandroiyIII]

@@TrulyAtrocious Truly terrifying, but only the first of at least four strategies: 1) The naive: to not care about truth that much and use the nonsense to feed the own ego. 2) The repulsed: to embrace becoming grumpy, resentful, and habitually disagreeable. 3) The contrarian influencer: to find a like-minded niche that rewards going against the grain. 4) The two-faced: to seemingly go along with the irrational dynamics, but think differently. The two-faced have the option of becoming an anointed authority, which is a moral catastrophe as they are incentivized to manipulate and outplay other people. Many politicians come to mind.

[@ominousvirus5278]

@Vandroiyll, What disagreements did you have with the video? Seeing as though you formed your ideas so well, I am quite curious to find out your thoughts. Interestingly, you can use this video’s end psychology of being curious and humble to possibly critique the video.

[@VandroiyIII]

@ominousvirus5278 There is a lot to unpack here. For starters, I do not agree that being humble is a general virtue. Doubting one's own, fallible knowledge in the search for truth is an optimization problem. Both sides are essential: confidence and restraint, balanced with one's own fallibility in mind. Humbleness is no doubt useful to get people to like you, but if truth is the goal, more is not always better and going too far leaves you with an ugly choice: either beccome manipulative, merely pretending to be humble to get social benefits, or a doormat, yielding valuable attention to garbage claims. To be clear, the problem which the video describes is extremely important and largely well-put. But when it comes to drawing conclusions, I suspect that the social dynamics of making a successful video are taking precedence over examining scathing realities and trade-offs. Mainly, questions of attributing vice and adjusting moral imperatives. This whole take is avoiding the question of the limiting factor. The advice around the end concerns *how* to make yourself curious and humble. But let's do a reality check. *Why* do we have any confidence that the lack of these traits is an ultimate cause? By the sound of it, the advice would allow to straightforwardly obtain ever more of the most powerful human skill: predicting reality. If there really is a simple, smooth, gradual path to get this... then why have all our processes failed to find it? Why would we need some semi-fringe video to lead the way... and to explain the answer in just a few common opinions? After seeing the video, are we now enlightened, ready to move on a path of reason? Can the threshold to a convergent solution to human bias be even remotely that low? In short, something is deeply wrong here. This is not plausible at all; why is it even normal to smooth over this glaring issue? There must be a systemic obstacle that is blocking gradual paths to advancing reason. And from this very video, we should already suspect what it is: a cultural context that incentivizes optimization for goals that are in conflict with objectivity. It is not just *your* ego that gets in the way. It is what Sowell (who not so incidentally gets quoted on this channel) calls the Vision of the Anointed, the prevailing vision of our culture, the standards by which we interact. It is the interplay of ego-games between many people of varying rationality. If you simply ignore the incentives and aim for truth, there will be resistance. If you let go of your ego's whims while readily accepting those of others, you need to cope with the negative consequences to stabilize the approach. The result is duplicity. Such approaches can be read about in Robert Greene's works: devaluation of honesty and the use of social dynamics for personal gain, often with no moral regards. This is technically a path to more objective truth, but ignores the question of a cooperative solution, implying that those smart enough to see the implications shall start deceiving less objective people around them, while communicating in implicit codes and protocols. Explicit description of such things is then shunned and manipulative adjustments of public messaging are regarded as normal. As should be obvious, this background of deception is then a massive hindrance to the furthering of reason. All that said, playing soothing music while telling people to just be honestly curious and humble... and advising to "lose arguments" which is really code for accepting unreasonable social punishment... and assuring that the resulting negativity won't matter... well, it makes me want to punch through the screen. This is, in essence, just another anointed strategy, great for an influencer with an audience of millions, someone whose opinions are obviously lucrative to share. This strategy is not so likely to scale to the larger audience, which still bears the cost of naively going along, usually without the rewards in approval and paycheck. This criticism is not very specific to this video. If anything, this one is more honest than most, by naming conflicting goals at all, rather than presupposing good intentions. But the threshold to cracking the root underlying dynamic has not been reached.

[@peterchadwick1078]

It can be very satisfying to have a subject matter expert explain something so that you walk away feeling a bit smarter - kind of like the satisfaction you get after eating when you've been hungry. Thank you After Skool. Not sure i understood or accepted everything but you fed my bias - and i liked that!

[@hansle170]

10:27 “Teaching about misinformation will make people dismiss facts as disinformation while teaching them logic will make them use it selectively for what they want to believe.” The video is so deep and insightful but finished with simple and practical conclusions. Amazing stuff.

[@slevinchannel7589]

KZbinr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'

[@legokirbymanchannel]

@@slevinchannel7589 This response is an example of irony.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@legokirbymanchannel My reply is literallly refering the 'objective fact' that Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness or bad-manners make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pathetic you cant even LISTEN to Science-KZbinrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhhhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-Fuck-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@legokirbymanchannel Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pat-etic you cant even LISTEN to Science-KZbinrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-F-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"

[@slevinchannel7589]

Ah, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video

[@brightmoon7132]

Long, long ago now my mom warned me about educated fools. Best advice EVER.

[@maythewindblow3734]

@@loturzelrestaurant and you are the same. :)

[@timhallas4275]

Educated only means that you have learned many things that may or may not be true. Wise means you have figured out which ones were true and which ones were not.

[@icusawme2]

Intelligence and wisdom don’t always ride in the same cart unfortunately intelligence and education don’t either.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@maythewindblow3734 You just saying that proves nothing but i suppose you dont even know what proof is. Honey, friendly reminder that Conservatism is at War with Science and all sidesk now and admit so except maybe you and this channel here

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@maythewindblow3734 You literally just lied about me. What was that meant to show anyone? That your a dunce who cant defend themselves against ANYTHING? What, i dont watch ANY Science-KZbinrs? LOLLLLL, i literally do, hahahha. Iagine just hailmerying the s-it outta the idea of a reply to me. just randomly shooting in the dark and hoping for the best

[@morsel9594]

Thank you so much for this video. Recognising my own bias has been a challenge from time to time. This is a great reminder to remain curious rather than dogmatic.

[@erickbaka]

So happy to see someone articulate these issues which have bothered me so much for the past 15 years! Also, it made me re-examine my own behavior which does steer toward the argumentative win-at-any-cost side while on Reddit... I've often felt it's not healthy, but this video gave me the push that was needed to try and actually stop it.

[@richardskull5279]

The ego has much to do with intellectual misperceptions. Humble and self aware are key to wisdom.

[@TheMookie1590]

Yes. As a kid I was that gifted kid, but so obnoxiously arrogant it makes me cringe. But I was just on the spectrum and my niche obsession was electrical engineering, somehow. Which meant I had to learn advanced concepts at 10 to learn my autistic niche. So I appeared gifted?. Anyway, Because this compound is still hated, or misunderstood by so many. I took LSD when I was 19, it was one of the most important things Ive ever done. It gave me the abilities to be intently self introspective, almost to a fault? I dont think I ever admitted being wrong before this. Im 30 now and still try to work towards my intrinsic being. I not only have no issue admitting being wrong, but I seek it out as an error correcting technique. ITs in the same wavelength as failure. Which ever since I was a child. I knew that failure was nothing more than a tool to learn. It affords you the opportunity to learn, so Ive always embraced it as that. I learned this from electrical engineering as a kid, because you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time.

[@mainemavin]

@@TheMookie1590 ~~ Your statement of, " you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time. ", is spot on !

[@moony77]

Don’t forget curiosity 💜

[@pmp2559]

Something americans lack

[@bvdswqawe11]

not really,ego is about selpreservation;superegis he culprit;using that terminilogy.

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

Bro this video is so real, he's talking about everybody but me!

[@mennymoto]

pfp matches the comment

[@cattysplat]

"Other people are so wrong. Couldn't be me."

[@Full_Speed_Ahead]

I’m kinda glad I’m not smart and very curious

[@derekrequiem4359]

so true frfr 😭

[@OrionDeHunter]

Lol, nice one

[@BadHorseFly]

Such a refreshing video. You started talking about curiosty and I thought "You're avoiding talking about the ego!" A minute later, there it was.

[@yvesgomes]

The gist of contemporary science (critical rationalism) offers a very helpful foundation against biases: Science is about trying to prove that you're wrong - not that you're right. Strictly speaking, there should be no such thing as defending an idea. We should all mercilessly attack ideas. When it seems we may be defending them, we should be merely clarifying them.

[@Fred-yq3fs]

Curiosity and humility are the best tools against dogma and self delusion. Winning arguments does not matter. Let go. Seek truth, grow. Too much education, too much knowledge, not enough character. Bang on! This video is a great service to every watcher. Thanks.

[@charlesmuller120]

Spot on Summary!

[@bunk95]

Are you slaves being marketed to you as arguing while theyre being tortured and killed?

[@piotrtoborek2442]

Awesome comment! 99% agree 😉

[@Andy-gq5hb]

I remember in the 90s the accusation was always that without religion people would be rational and open-minded. Here we are a few years later as more people have become atheist and those same people have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervor upon others. We really are our own worst enemies

[@bunk95]

The waste humans marketed as enemies?

[@polycube868]

I'd argue that wokeism is the new religion of the 21st century, they certainly act like religious fanatics did, like the bigots who burned Beatles albums because John Lennon said The Beatles were more popular than Jesus...the wokes do the same kinda thing, they "cancel" people for doing and saying things they don't like, they look for things to get offended by (think Satanic panic but in reverse)

[@lenkamaresova4116]

Religion is not the reason. My country has majority atheist/non-believers, and the current woke AND conservative discourse (USA) is seen as pure nonsense here. On the other hand, most people in my country had enough of societal experiments for a lifetime... Not so in the west. Maybe it's time for forty years of a total shitshow on your part so you can get it out of your system.

[@binary10balls]

You say atheists have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervour upon others. Funny, because from my perspective as an atheist, it’s religious people that do this. This cognitive bias is a minefield.

[@charlesterry2113]

It’s a common lie people believe that your philosophical/religious beliefs determine your intelligence.

[@hellknightmordred7655]

This video really helped me get the tools I need to look inward at myself. To challenge my beliefs. Thank you so much after skool.

[@faustocardy5018]

I like the balance. The humility part reminded me of my dad. How he would criticize me about my lack of humility while saying how humble he is. And I would just stay there listening to his ramblings almost shouting at me.

[@bry10101]

My grandfather dropped out of high school, joined the Navy, got a job working in a nuclear reactor after the Navy, did that for 10 years then became the head of maintenance for a massive corporation and retired nicely. The smartest man I have ever known and he didn't even have a diploma or GED. Dude could fix anything. Fro. Reactor parts to small engines to framing a house to tile work. Just built different.

[@jackierugrat8680]

Good for your grandfather. One must admit, luck & privilege were certainly on his side.

[@72442conv]

Some of the smartest people I have ever seen are like your Grandfather. They never got a higher education, but their ability to look at problems, break them down, and fix the issue was amazing. They then learned from the fixing of these problems and that has made them better men. I have this innate thing where I love to learn and do things , even if just one time. Having grown up poor also makes you extremely resourceful, which is something that rich people that go to these elite universities will never learn.

[@joshuagutenberg1901]

you are blessed to have such a great man for a grandfather. Its too bad he did not run for government. If we had people like him in government, things would not be such a mess.

[@maverick4255]

So either you didn’t understand the video, or you’re just yapping.

[@janjansen6443]

People now a days will not give you a change, either you have a diploma and expercience or its there is the door. Regardless of skill.

[@wrestlingPC]

The problem with being humble and curious is that most everyone else is not. You will be an outcast and misunderstood. You must be strong to carry your own convictions. The world does not have to be close minded and selfish, but those in power pump out that nonsense. And the heard, fearing being cast out, will go along with debauchery. "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."

[@TheEmolano]

Begin humble means keeping for yourself.

[@bardanation419]

The bit you mentioned about curiosity is spot on. Anytime I see a sci fi or fantasy movie, tv show, or video game, I immediately get curious about the lore and have to look up every bit of information possible

[@Heinskitz]

"Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil." - C.S. Lewis

[@jasonc5413]

“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.” ― Bertrand Russell

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

that's a good quote, but it speaks about the opposite phenomenon from this video

[@Dallows65]

That sucks for me because I feel both at all times in varying ratios.

[@levvayner4509]

I often find that I want to respond to a comment or statement because I disagree. As I start to write a response, I begin to reason if what I write might be a fallacy or based on false information. Often before I am done with my response, I'll chose not to post. Not because I'm intelligent, but because I don't really know.

[@jasonc5413]

@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Just because someone is an intellectual it doesn't mean they are not stupid. Some of the most imaginative and understanding people I've known have been of so called "average intelligence".

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

@@jasonc5413that seems self-contradictory: in order to be an intellectual, you must be intelligent, it's a pre-requisite. and if you have creativity/imagination and understanding then by definition you are intelligent

[@terry9819]

As a "leftie" that can't stand wokeism I have given up on trying to discuss issues with so many people. Now I'm just interested in understanding how people think and come to the positions they hold. I see so many people say that free speech is under threat and then in the next breath argue someone should be arrested for saying something they disagree with, it's fascinating. Great video, thanks.

[@Beingapolymath]

Damn, that resonated hard. Have you been asked how are you left and not aligned to woke nonsense?

[@levi5459]

People are to caught up in being right that they are not thinking about what is right and what might be harmful. They are not thinking. They confuse emotion for thinking and begin to believe that if they can suppress or limit speech for someone they disagree with, somehow that increases their own power in that right but the truth of it is the moment you become successful in limiting any right for those with whom you disagree with you.. You inadvertently limit and handcuff yourself in that right at the same time in the very same way. So, those in power who are intent on deceiving and manipulation work to cause division and infighting amongst ourselves knowing full well that our unity despite our differences is the very thing that they must dismantle first. When it comes to our rights.. To assume I can take yours because we might disagree in some ways would just take away from me in the very same way. It is not a weapon that serves anyone of us well unless and only when we all have it together equally. When we become proud and divide and seek to use that weapon on one of our own just because they don’t believe and see things exactly like you and I and work to use that weapon to strike at that person or group we strike ourselves to and receive the same wounds and bleed out as well. It’s idiocy

[@asdlom]

mid-right here, same on both ends of the spectrum. I have friends on the far left and family on the far right, and I just like to observe how their brains work.

[@jamesgrissom6386]

@@asdlom sounds like nothing is really at stake for you

[@user-cv3pb7cf9m]

There's nothing wrong with being on the left of the political spectrum. I apparently according to a test i did am more soc-democratically inclined but i don't consider myself an ideologue and definitely dont subscribe to the radical social democratic dogmas and believe they borderline on anarchy

[@Govrin.]

Very good video glad yt recommend it to me Just wanna say i love your drawing style a whole lot

[@jonathanhornpsy]

Outstanding! This is what actually should be taught at universities: learning how to pursue objective truth instead of getting good at rationalising. I learned a lot from this video and appreciate the way you graphically illustrate your work. Thank you.

[@winterbas8927]

It boils down to Wisdom. Data = Knowledge in all its forms Memory = A store of Data Intelligence = The innate ability to acquire, recall, analyse and produce Data Wisdom = Application of intelligence with good judgement, morals, ethics etc.

[@willmfrank]

Knowledge is owning a book Intelligence is being able to read it. Wisdom is understanding what you read.

[@synthlordvr]

As a tech CEO I’ve hired hundreds of people directly. 99% of the college graduates thought so highly of themselves and were so set in their own ways, they never took the time to learn how to do things OUR way. It didn’t take long before I started favoring those WITHOUT college degrees.

[@Mr_Folf]

Certifications + Work Ethic > 4 years of sitting in lectures

[@Bicyclechris]

As a person who only has a an Associates degree and yet works for one of the world’s largest tech companies, I wholeheartedly agree.

[@smania7575]

I was hired at my tech company for my experience vs my degree. They didn't care I had a degree and never asked me about it. They wanted to know about my experience in the field and how that could bring value to the company. So far, it's one of the best companies I have worked for. I'm seen as an expert in my area and also expected to keep up with the new information emerging in my field. My opinion is valuable, but I also know other people have great ideas and opinions too. Sometimes, another person's idea or opinion is what we go with because it is more sound. That level of thinking doesn't come from degrees, it comes from experience. (Many of us have lots of experience while less than half have degrees)

[@kathyallen7964]

I've often heard it's better to hire someone w little to no experience so you can train them to do it a specific way. Overcoming old habits is a challenge, especially if they're so set on being right.

[@bunk95]

CEOs are fictional. You think you hired a slave?

[@davidhannaford5511]

This is such a good video. I have found recently that youtube is going downhill by feeding me videos that feed bias and make me anxious. Feeding bias through the algorithum has the potential to divide society. I wish everyone knew the infomation in this video. It has definitely given me some peace and rest for my mind. Thankyou.

[@joshuathomas6275]

This is one of your best uploads yet, thanks!!

[@jamesrodgers3132]

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

[@user-en3xy6eh5e]

Correct. It's a Spiritual matter. Everyone has a belief of something which determines their understanding of their action, but what belief is true? Examine the beginning of life and death. Truth is known in their understanding.

[@someone-ke4qj]

Finish it

[@Not_Mussolini_]

Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@user-en3xy6eh5e Ah, yes, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video

[@samr.england613]

@@Not_Mussolini_Is it wrong for an artist to paint birds and flowers? Grasshoppers and honeybees? If so, how is it okay for Muslims to make humanoid robots in the image of man? Or Christian societies to do the same?

[@MrFelipefelop]

My granfather was a veteran of WW2,and a Mayor in the UK. when imparting his wisdom,he said always question the middle word in life and always remember there are no pockets in shrouds, words that stuck. A heartfelt thank you to After Skool for your time and effort for your content. Its very much appreciated.

[@robertoseveno]

Such a great comment to an equal video. Cheers all

[@thulyblu5486]

I have no clue what "the middle word" refers to and why one should focus scrutiny on that. Do other words get a pass on scrutiny or what?

[@robertoseveno]

if@@thulyblu5486

[@garlic9763]

@@thulyblu5486 the middle two letters are i and f, if.

[@thulyblu5486]

@@garlic9763 ah OK it's connected to "Life" and pretending that there is another word in the middle of the word life. Strange train of thought to me, I wouldn't have gotten that without explanation, thanks.

[@johanvandercingel]

I try to listen to be informed, not to in order to react. Forming an opinion in a conversation is much more productive than to defend one. Those principles are not always easy to adhere to. But when I am aware of these ideas, I usually practise them. Your message is very well presented and I agree with it 100% . Thank you for your insights.

[@robertkeyes258]

I liked this because it confirms my beliefs. Not, more seriously, you've taken some things I've noticed and then put them in a more coherent frame. One of the most serious conversations I ever had with my late father was in the summer of 2012, half a year before his death. In our conversation with this man in his mid 80s, I explained that I had grown up thinking that the most important characteristic of a person was intelligence, and this led me down some dark paths. I now believe that honesty is the most important characteristic. He disagreed, saying that kindness was primary. I've reflected upon that ever since. It's hard to shift one's firmly held beliefs because these make up the core of self-identity, yet there are personal crisisses for which it is required. My father, it seems, either never had such a crisis or never was able to resolve it. I don't want to get too much into my family history, but rather use the difference between us to illustrate the issue. I've am lately pondering that in order to be truly kind, one must first be honest, otherwise there is only flattery with no long-term goal. If intelligence is the highest value, then sociopathy can be allowed to flourish, leading to the decay of society. Intelligence, in modern western society, is thought to be best harnessed by education, particularly higher education in difficult fields. My mother was the first in her family to graduate from college, and my father was the first to obtain a bachelor's degree. Both got degrees in 'hard' sciences, and along with my extended family planned that my siblings and I were to be at least as well schooled as them, and indeed when I graduated, though twenty years late from Harvard, my parents, especially my father beamed like I had never seen him do before. But my degree hasn't helped me achieve much, because it is not specific enough in its focus. I felt as though my parents had achieved something socially through me, which threw the true reasons for my pursuit of said degree into question. Certainly, I had learned much - including some of the skills which have allowed me to be self-reflective and come to the ideas I present here - but much else was thinly veiled programming in order to leverage the value of membership in this elite class. I have resisted such leverage because it is both dishonest and unkind. What, then, is left? an unframed diploma stuffed in a drawer, student debt, and a vague sense of unease about my own education. But these is a bit more that powers me through moments of doubt, and that is exposure to the unknown unknowns, and for that alone, the true nature of higher education has value.

[@spddiesel]

As my dad would often say when things went tits up, "you gotta be pretty smart to do something that stupid." Or another of his favorites, "you know just enough to get all the way into trouble but only halfway out."

[@jeffputman3504]

Likewise, "Nothing can be made foolproof, because fools are so ingenious."

[@ThisBloke760]

This is so good. I was a builder and would tell the apprenticed to be teachable (humble) and curious. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask.

[@stevem815]

I worry that my apprentice is a bit too full of himself sometimes. He's OK for the moment because he's really obviously incompetent at pretty much everything, so he has to listen... You can see that he thinks pretty highly of himself though and I worry he'll become a PIA once he starts to learn a bit and starts to think he knows everything. IDK what you do about it though.

[@insoporous9978]

@@stevem815 You can't teach someone who already knows everything. If he thinks he knows something, he won't learn anything new about it. Thing is, it's way too late to teach him a good attitude; his parents were responsible for that. Now you can only hope he decides to learn that on his own. I'd sooner keep around a "dimwit" with a good (teachable) attitude any day of the week. You should too and you already know why. Hope it works out with him.

[@Catstronautgirl]

When I was 11 years old I read Brave New World for the first time and that book made me spiral into a deep fear of authority. From that book I learned that the most dangerous type of authority is the intelligent one, because they're the ones who can convince you of *their* truth. (From there I also developed an aversion of drugs, alcohol, consumerism and government) I uninstalled most social media, only keeping youtube. Something like a key in my brain turned, it taught me to judge the truth. Idk my IQ score, I doubt I'm that smart, but I believe in truth. I have been part of both ends of the political spectrum, from deeply christian conservative, to atheist liberal, now I'm a centrist, a very, very strong centrist libertarian. I make sure to always read both sides of the same argument, especially in extremist cases, they tend to be the most interesting ones that reveal the most information. Doing that I ask myself more questions about my personal biases, (which should be more left leaning given my background), and I can understand the other side of the coin, even if I don't like it. Thank you for this video, it is very good!

[@cvb596]

Confronting and very interesting, I truly hope these ideas will stick with me for a while instead of me moving on tomorrow.

[@joesouthwell4080]

"For the eye sees not itself." Shakespeare, Julius Cesar It's important to have friends you can disagree with and listen when they disagree with you.

[@Jason-VoluntaryDe-Occultist]

Not realizing the difference between believing, thinking, and knowing is a huge problem. There are only two mistakes that one can make on the path to truth: Not starting and not going all the way.

[@DrSpas]

This is great, the 2 mistakes. Well stated Don't forget humility, although arguably is included with going all the way

[@PammyP]

I am so very encouraged that 656 thousand people have watched your video. You sound relatively young to have developed such discernment and wisdom and I am deeply encouraged by that. I hope the point was taken that if we don't apply this to ourselves all is for naught. This is about each of us and what we do with this.

[@hyrocoaster]

I liked how the video started and I think the reason why I started disliking it after 5 or so minutes is that the storyteller makes the mistake to think that knowledge or truth were the ultimate goals that we should pursue, individually and collectively. But it’s well-being that people are ultimately after, as he pointed out earlier. So in a society that finally talks about its goals explicitly, for example in “wokeism” debates, it’s very understandable that social justice, among other things, comes into focus.

[@Nylon_riot]

As someone who envies creatives, I just want to give a lot of credit to the artist of this channel for such original and expressive depictions.

[@GaZonk100]

absolutely brilliant stuff, but should we heap praise on natural talent?

[@bunk95]

Artists from fiction that includes KZbin outside of fiction?

[@sciencoking]

What has helped me is being on either side of the political spectrum at some point in my life and realizing it's all the same control machine. No politician is your friend, even your favorite one

[@danielwinter441]

the lesser of the evil's is still evil

[@samr.england613]

But the 'lesser' is STILL less.

[@fraser9580]

But which evil is indeed lesser?

[@PoopTossinApe]

Amazing video. One of the hardest things I've had to overcome was my ego. When I realized it was only an anchor, I had to cut the chain in order to set sail.

[@reachtrev69]

This video helped me understand something I've been stuck on for a long time. Why do smart people fall for these obvious lies and ideologies? You even have the how and what you can do to prevent falling for that trap. Fantastic video.

[@Geschichtelehrer]

My method: Always ask yourself why THE OTHERS could be right and why you still see it differently. In my opinion, this is the best method to outwit your own bias.

[@ebishrimpy9366]

Wow... "In an effort to protect our chosen identity, we stay wrong." 🤯 This video is so high value, I hope many "intelligent" people find it.

[@frankhenry645]

I would rather have the less enlightened watch

[@georgedunkelberg5004]

WE TWO DID, AND THAT MOVES US FORWARD!

[@moony77]

This is why it’s so important to stop with all this identifying everything and everyone with labels! This practice is sooooo limiting and is everywhere. Why place oneself or anything into a box that end up being a coffin.

[@dalebattaglia]

Sync!

[@fishgurusince1985]

Educated to win an argument not look at subjects rationally. That shook me.

[@lllordllloyd]

The Greeks called it 'sophistry' and the term survives in our language with the same disparaging meaning (although I say 'survives', maybe one person in 100 would know what you mean). It's interesting that as the Greeks formalised in philosophy how to divine truth through dialogue, they so quickly recognised clever dialogue can miss uindamental truth as well.

[@kuta2556]

I have never been able to put this feeling into words; it may be that I simply lack the knowledge to, or I've yet to reach a point where I am comfortable in what I do know. However, this is such a great video and I just want to say thank you for piecing some things together for me in my mind. Metathinking (is what I call overthinking about thinking) can cause a bit of stress, but it seems that is the wrong response. "Am I humble?" I try to be. That's as best I can put it. "Yes" oversells it and doesn't feel humble. "No" simply feels like trying too hard to be humble. Does commenting about humility make me feel less humble, yes, but is expressing a feeling of "I'm trying to be a decent human" making me feel more humble? A lil bit. Maybe spending a bit more time with reasoning with myself will make me see the other guy's perspective, and understand it needn't cause distress.

[@nikolaswap]

bro really said statements to be true without saying anything other than “doesn’t it feel untrue?”

[@kaunas888]

A place like Harvard is filled with very smart, ambitious and politically careerist folks, so admitting that they might be wrong in a place which is defined by "intelligence" is a heavy pill to swallow. On top of that it is even harder for people to admit their mistakes because they collectively are very good at rationalizing their errors in thought...so a bunch of really smart academics at Harvard cannot possibly be wrong, right?

[@ankhpom9296]

Many people from such places like Harvard have been proven to be wrong by others.